How bad is FE / BDA? This BAD!

[Enygma]

FE wipe to Severilous with 18... but made a valiant effort getting Sev down to 100%.

FE alt guilded in Azure Guard then trains Sev to FoB while FE tries to regroup for a second attempt while Sev still engaged. FE claims having no involvement with their bard co-hort ... bard is clearly scared trying to get away ? but I ask you this.. .why didn't he zone into TT? OMGER! Conspiracy.

BDA tag Sev while it is still engaged with FE (Great job Apeople)

BDA / FE wipe together with 35 people combined but managed to get Severilous to a whopping 10%

TMO kills Severilous with 38 in a matter of seconds... clearly zerg skill.

... seriously though... THAT BAD!

[Knightt]

video or its not true!!!!!!

[Servellious]

can we get a professional troll in here this enygma guy is pretty weak.

[Autotune]

tmo killed sev with zero clerics and like 2 druids and like 28 people total.

Shame on you all.

[Enygma]

tmo killed sev with zero clerics and like 2 druids and like 28 people total.

Shame on you all.

that shit was a blast when we pulled it off brah! MOAR TORPOR!

[Enygma]

can we get a professional troll in here this enygma guy is pretty weak.

not trollin brah... postin truth

[Alarti0001]

that shit was a blast when we pulled it off brah! MOAR TORPOR!

Did we even have torpor that round? I think it was primarily druid healing.

[Ilakje]

In all fairness Sev is the hardest dragon outside of VP. Oh wait, I'm thinking of Gore - Sev is the one that can be one grouped.

[Ungriim]

0 DPS classes vs all DPS classes
who can kill a dragon faster

was hoping one tmo member would be dumb enough to grab agro and I would remain FTE.

full story
bye =)

[Arrisard]

0 DPS classes vs all DPS classes
who can kill a dragon faster

was hoping one tmo member would be dumb enough to grab agro and I would remain FTE.

full story
bye =)

Fool me once ;)

[Ungriim]

Bards bein Bards. Craziness! =D

[Heebo]

was hoping one tmo member would kill the dragon for me and my awful guild

[Diggles]

stealin and i better dragon killers than tmo+bda+fe+ib+rogean combined.

slaughter dragon lair of eggs on weekly basis.

[Ungriim]

Hey when did PD's door become locked btw?

[Crazyeye]

Was fun to watch atlease, FE's 15/18 peeps getting feared is priceless. To think this all coulda been prevented if shinko woulda just paid me 30k~

[Enygma]

Hey when did PD's door become locked btw?

since 1999 bro!

[Autotune]

stealin and i better dragon killers than tmo+bda+fe+ib+rogean combined.

slaughter dragon lair of eggs on weekly basis.

truth

[Jacquouille]

FE wipe to Severilous with 18... but made a valiant effort getting Sev down to 100%.

FE alt guilded in Azure Guard then trains Sev to FoB while FE tries to regroup for a second attempt while Sev still engaged. FE claims having no involvement with their bard co-hort ... bard is clearly scared trying to get away ? but I ask you this.. .why didn't he zone into TT? OMGER! Conspiracy.

BDA tag Sev while it is still engaged with FE (Great job Apeople)

BDA / FE wipe together with 35 people combined but managed to get Severilous to a whopping 10%

TMO kills Severilous with 38 in a matter of seconds... clearly zerg skill.

... seriously though... THAT BAD!

44 TMOs* to be accurate matey.

It was fun!! My first raid in 9 months, I'm glad to see all the no lives are still there.

Gratz TMO !

[quido]

God I'm glad we didn't take you, Supremacy. Skeezy ass motherfucker.

[Bouncerr]

E-peens at their finest, carry on.

[Jacquouille]

God I'm glad we didn't take you, Supremacy. Skeezy ass motherfucker.

You sound mad brosky.

<3

[Enygma]

44 TMOs* to be accurate matey.

It was fun!! My first raid in 9 months, I'm glad to see all the no lives are still there.

Gratz TMO !

wait... this guy thinks he's a french cat?... and calls other people who play mmo's no lives?

riiiight.

[Jacquouille]

wait... this guy thinks he's a french cat?... and calls other people who play mmo's no lives?

riiiight.

It's RP, I like to RP cats and iksars from cabilis.

This is a game ehhh, I entertain folks I play with rather than just grief people I barely know :)

Fun is a question of choice matey

[Alarti0001]

It's RP, I like to RP cats and iksars from cabilis.

This is a game ehhh, I entertain folks I play with rather than just grief people I barely know :)

Fun is a question of choice matey

You are trying to hard.

[Reptak]

I seldom post in R&F, although it sometimes makes for entertaining reading, but I feel the need to comment in this thread. This encounter reminds me of the VS from a few weeks ago.

Basically, we arrive, in as good or better numbers, but "other guild" (FE in this case) gets the engage before us (they had 8 in zone). I see no problem with this as the pull was straight to camp and others were arriving. They proceed to fail (it happens to everyone sometimes) and instead of just ending the encounter and licking their wounds, they use dirty tactics to prolong their FTE. In the case of VS, "other guild" uses tactics such as FD-flopping, kiting, DA tanking (for like 7-8 minutes). In this case, lots of throwing new and rezzed bodies at it and kiting. I honestly don't know who it was that trained Sev all the North (and I mean ALL THE WAY), but I understand it was not anyone tagged FE/BDA. But it sure as hell wasn't to get away from the dragon, and the encounter was at the zoneline.

I and 4 other TMO followed Sev, always within range of body agro (and no spells cast or other aggressive actions w/i Sev's proximity - the only way to truly know a reset has occurred on him). No reset occurred and Apoeple cast on Sev and Sev was brought back to zoneline. Once there, both BDA and FE tried to beat it down (presumably not working together). This is the same thing as with VS where, in that case, FE says "fuck it" and engages VS w/o a reset (or at least w/o one where they got FTE). All the while TMO was trying to play by the rules and not interfere where it had no FTE.

I get that we are the bad guy to the server. It seems that there always needs to be one. But I can say with 100% certainty that TMO engages in "shady" tactics about 1/10 as often as FE/BDA, yet if get your information from just from R&F, you would think we have the monopoly on it.

I am not saying TMO has never done anything questionable. Although I personally am a goody-goody, it would be naive of me to say that. However, I routinely witness FE, and to a lesser extent, BDA, pulling crap that would get TMO banned if they did it. We just don't petition 90% of it, and let's be honest, who is going to have much sympathy for TMO.

Putting aside issues of rule breaking, stalling and FTE sniping are completely lame. While I am sure people can come up with an example where TMO may have been guilty of this in the past, BDA/FE do it routinely. I can think of numerous occasions in the last couple months where another guild, especially FE, try to FTE snipe a raid boss with less than 10 in the zone. A few Inny's ago, TMO had it's force in his lair and was about to engage when Olddirty decides to through a jav at him (Inny does NOT necessarily DT right off the bat, it can take at least a server tick). There were maybe 7 FE in the zone and most at zone in. This is not an occasion where guilds try to get FTE so they can kill the mob. This was pure and simple raid interference. Fortunately we saw this and watched, and laughed, as Olddirty got a beat down along with his cleric buddy. This happens all the time.

We lost the VS a few weeks ago because we were too cautious (I also disagree with the ruling - I think no guild should have been awarded the loot - but I understand guides need to make decisions that not everyone will agree with). We will likely continue to be cautious in the future because we have to. I just get a little tired of the usual trolls posting how TMO trains, KS's, kites, FTE snipes, etc., when to be honest, we are more often than not the recipient of such tactics. Of course what did I expect in an R&F thread. I know TMO has it's own trolls in here too. I just wish R&F was more about calling out people/guilds for their shenanigans and less about fabrications. Would be even more entertaining.

[Orruar]

tmo killed sev with zero clerics and like 2 druids and like 28 people total.

Shame on you all.

Do you even need heals if you have 26 dps people on a 32k dragon? Kunark raiding is quite trivial, especially if you take more than 20 people.

And grats bda/fe on proving there are still no skilled guilds killing dragons on this server.

[Boilon]

A few Inny's ago, TMO had it's force in his lair and was about to engage when Olddirty decides to through a jav at him (Inny does NOT necessarily DT right off the bat, it can take at least a server tick).


Not that it's much different, but Olddirty is a member of Europa ;D I think FTE is Oldirty (1 D ) lol.

[Boilon]

meant to say FE member* - hate that I can't edit u.u

[Reptak]

Not that it's much different, but Olddirty is a member of Europa ;D I think FTE is Oldirty (1 D ) lol.

Whoops, thanks for correction. Would not want to speak poorly of the wrong person.

[Jacquouille]

You are trying to hard.

Too hard*

a frenchy correcting native english speaking folks, the world has come to an end.

Not really trying hard, I was quite amused to see what a clusterfuck this raid was. I was quite amused to see that in 9 months you nerds were still there, doing the same shit lol.

Those 9 months were quite relaxing and refreshing, I dunno how you can have the stamina to still batphone and get in, respect.

xxx farti boy

[Alarti0001]

Too hard*

a frenchy correcting native english speaking folks, the world has come to an end.

Not really trying hard, I was quite amused to see what a clusterfuck this raid was. I was quite amused to see that in 9 months you nerds were still there, doing the same shit lol.

Those 9 months were quite relaxing and refreshing, I dunno how you can have the stamina to still batphone and get in, respect.

xxx farti boy

Really you have resorted to spell checking, and changing names to fart? Also, during these 9 months you haven't been playing you have been here calling everyone nerds. It takes true stamina to troll a game you don't play. True desperation too.

[Jacquouille]

Really you have resorted to spell checking, and changing names to fart? Also, during these 9 months you haven't been playing you have been here calling everyone nerds. It takes true stamina to troll a game you don't play. True desperation too.

Well yeah, I visited the US, went to my Sisters wedding in NY, I saw a lot of fatties and I thought hmmmm maybe some of them are TMOs !

I was burned out, yet I wanted to stay in touch with my beloved TMO e-penis fighters of the e-truth like you (:

Stop being so serious Farti and smile a bit !!!

[Autotune]

Do you even need heals if you have 26 dps people on a 32k dragon? Kunark raiding is quite trivial, especially if you take more than 20 people.

And grats bda/fe on proving there are still no skilled guilds killing dragons on this server.

I wouldn't call a hand full of necros DPS.

or the two tanks

or the shamans

or the bards

but whatever helps you make whatever point you wanted to make.

[Alarti0001]

Well yeah, I visited the US, went to my Sisters wedding in NY, I saw a lot of fatties and I thought hmmmm maybe some of them are TMOs !

I was burned out, yet I wanted to stay in touch with my beloved TMO e-penis fighters of the e-truth like you (:

Stop being so serious Farti and smile a bit !!!

Funny when I went to france I saw fatties there too.... Oh ya! You have McDonalds too!

[Jacquouille]

Funny when I went to france I saw fatties there too.... Oh ya! You have McDonalds too!

We do. I'm joking, I thought I'd see more fatties, I guess DC/NY are "civilized" places, I'm pretty sure in AL where stealin lives there are those so called "blobs" that drive around in electric wheelchairs because they are too fat to walk.

Did you enjoy France? Usually americans like the country but hate the people. Clichés about being smelly etc are retarded, but concerning arrogance they are 100% accurate.

[Kados]

You are trying to hard.

it's "too", Alarti

[Orruar]

I wouldn't call a hand full of necros DPS.

or the two tanks

or the shamans

or the bards

but whatever helps you make whatever point you wanted to make.

I'd call http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=1735&source=Live dps

1.5k is what, 5% of a dragon's hp gone in 3.2 seconds?

Even bards who do like 30 dps will survive at least a couple minutes without heals. That's another 10% of the dragon's hp.

A discing monk or rogue will do a solid 15% of the dragon's hp in 30 seconds. I'm sure you had at least a couple of these, no?

[Autotune]

I'd call http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=1735&source=Live dps

1.5k is what, 5% of a dragon's hp gone in 3.2 seconds?

Even bards who do like 30 dps will survive at least a couple minutes without heals. That's another 10% of the dragon's hp.

A discing monk or rogue will do a solid 15% of the dragon's hp in 30 seconds. I'm sure you had at least a couple of these, no?

lemme know how those trucidations go for you bro.

you should just say you were dumb for saying "26 dps" and get this over with.

[arsenalpow]

There's like 3 Oldirty's on this server, shits popular

Oldirty FE Monk
Olddirty Warrior
Olddirrty some other warrior

I can say with 100% certainty that TMO engages in "shady" tactics about 1/10 as often as FE/BDA......I routinely witness FE, and to a lesser extent, BDA, pulling crap that would get TMO banned if they did it.

That's about the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, also stop associating BDA with FE scum (doing it right?) We didn't ask FE to jump on our attempt, they thought they still had or recaptured FTE.

FE is bad at fantasy football and I beat Shinko last week even with Matt Ryan shitting all over himself.

[Ilakje]

Do you even need heals if you have 26 dps people on a 32k dragon? Kunark raiding is quite trivial, especially if you take more than 20 people.

And grats bda/fe on proving there are still no skilled guilds killing dragons on this server.

You should go out there with a few of your buddies and show us just how easy it is to kill dragons. Or just keep talking out your ass. Either way is fine with me. And if you think it's too hard to sneak a kill on big bad TMO, ask Taken for some pointers.

[Orruar]

You should go out there with a few of your buddies and show us just how easy it is to kill dragons. Or just keep talking out your ass. Either way is fine with me. And if you think it's too hard to sneak a kill on big bad TMO, ask Taken for some pointers.

I would, but all the unemployed people on this server make it difficult to get engages on dragons. I'm not gonna sit in a zone for hours hoping for a dragon. Already beat this game years ago.

[Jacquouille]

I would, but all the unemployed people on this server make it difficult to get engages on dragons. I'm not gonna sit in a zone for hours hoping for a dragon. Already beat this game years ago.

It's their choice mate, hate the game not the players!!

[Alarti0001]

We do. I'm joking, I thought I'd see more fatties, I guess DC/NY are "civilized" places, I'm pretty sure in AL where stealin lives there are those so called "blobs" that drive around in electric wheelchairs because they are too fat to walk.

Did you enjoy France? Usually americans like the country but hate the people. Clichés about being smelly etc are retarded, but concerning arrogance they are 100% accurate.

Ya the south is the home of the obese. Esp that french influenced area louisiana. Damn butter.
No I loved france and the people. Of course I loved germany, denmark, italy etc. Too.
I am more french in lifestyle than english. Pleasure vs comfort.

[Mystro]

I Can't believe people are still raging over this game... I Don't even know why the dev's would bother progress this server any further. Seems like a very poor investment of time and effort.

[McMuffins]

I Can't believe people are still raging over this game... I Don't even know why the dev's would bother progress this server any further. Seems like a very poor investment of time and effort.

Because there are far more people enjoying themselves than people complaining. Duh, you retard.

[Raavak]

You should go out there with a few of your buddies and show us just how easy it is to kill dragons. Or just keep talking out your ass. Either way is fine with me. And if you think it's too hard to sneak a kill on big bad TMO, ask Taken for some pointers.

Taken romped us last night :(
Grats on some nice lewt too.

[Orruar]

It's their choice mate, hate the game not the players!!

The game is what the players make of it.

[Alarti0001]

The game is what the players make of it.
Nah, This game is waiting on Velious.

[Ungriim]

Much respect to Reptak.

[Jacquouille]

Ya the south is the home of the obese. Esp that french influenced area louisiana. Damn butter.
No I loved france and the people. Of course I loved germany, denmark, italy etc. Too.
I am more french in lifestyle than english. Pleasure vs comfort.

French lifestyle ?

What do you mean ?

Fashion/quality food over comfy clothing/average food?

[Alarti0001]

French lifestyle ?

What do you mean ?

Fashion/quality food over comfy clothing/average food?

In simplistic terms french are more pleasure seekers and english are more comfort seekers.

[Alarti0001]

Fully VP geared guild successfully kills 32k dragon, with 40+ people!!!!.....news at 11!!!

You realize we have a 24hr news cycle now right?

[Alarti0001]

Sure if you care to watch it. Me? I usually work til 1am and the 11pm local news is usually comical just enough to help pass the time.

Will TMO successfully kill Nagafen with their de-leveled, VP geared and epicced level 52s!!!?!?!?!?!?

Don't miss tonight's TechTips, tonight at eleven!!!!

Derp, you do realize to get our gear, epics we had to kill these targets without VP gear and epics.... right?

[Jacquouille]

In simplistic terms french are more pleasure seekers and english are more comfort seekers.

That's very true. I'd rather wear stuff that aint comfy but fashionable (especially shoes...) Whilst I found that fashion in the US was a total disgrace.

I wonder how it is to live in the US when you're like that. You guys seem to care way more about body shape / condition than the way you look.

Whilst being fit in europe is important, it's considered secondary. If you're educated, quite wealthy (and more important atm with the crisis if you're young : if you are EMPLOYED !) then this will take over the fact that you are muscular/shaped.

Kinda weird uh? I'm generally speaking of course, if your partner is with you for the reason I've stated here it would be dramatically superficial, yet, there is some truth about it.

[Alarti0001]

That's very true. I'd rather wear stuff that aint comfy but fashionable (especially shoes...) Whilst I found that fashion in the US was a total disgrace.

I wonder how it is to live in the US when you're like that. You guys seem to care way more about body shape / condition than the way you look.

Whilst being fit in europe is important, it's considered secondary. If you're educated, quite wealthy (and more important atm with the crisis if you're young : if you are EMPLOYED !) then this will take over the fact that you are muscular/shaped.

Kinda weird uh? I'm generally speaking of course, if your partner is with you for the reason I've stated here it would be dramatically superficial, yet, there is some truth about it.

I get bored with beautiful women within a week if they don't have a brain to engage me with. Not to say beauty isnt important in mate selection, haha.


Anyways, when I say comfort im not just talking clothes. I mean what would be called "creature comforts" here. Material posessions beyond clothes, TV's Furniture etc. Comfort based seekers spend their $$$ on things that will increase their personal comfort generally for them or theirs (Family, homes etc). Pleasure seekers are more about the immediate satisfaction. Fancy clothes, rich foods, than stockpiling material wealth in their home(Fortress)

[Alarti0001]

Fashion is also a state of mind based on a communities' values. Many americans would go to France and think that fasion there is a disgrace too. Capri pants? really?

[bktroost]

[QUOTE=Enygma;771915
FE alt guilded in Azure Guard then trains Sev to FoB [/QUOTE]

This part interests me. Any idea on the name of that "alt?"

[Tasslehofp99]

Derp, you do realize to get our gear, epics we had to kill these targets without VP gear and epics.... right?

Yeah, but...its not like you guys had or have had any real competition in a long time. Why are you still even killing sev really?

[Alarti0001]

Yeah, but...its not like you guys had or have had any real competition in a long time. Why are you still even killing sev really?

So its strange to you that a raid guild enjoys raiding?

[Zeelot]

Not sure who this guy is, but he's the one who kited sev around. Anyways, at least he made the raid interesting.

[Tue Nov 20 17:37:39 2012] You say out of character, 'whos running away with him..'
[Tue Nov 20 17:37:45 2012] Trim says out of character, 'me'


[Tue Nov 20 17:37:49 2012] [51 Vicar] Trim (High Elf) <Azure Guard>

[Zeelot]

oops cut off my copy

[Tue Nov 20 17:37:49 2012] [51 Vicar] Trim (High Elf) <Azure Guard>

[Eccezan]

oops cut off my copy

[Tue Nov 20 17:37:49 2012] [51 Vicar] Trim (High Elf) <Azure Guard>

Would be interdasting if we could figure out a way to see if this guy has a main character in the guild "Forceful Entry" by chance. Hmmmmmmmmm....if there was only a way for someone to check..........

[Autotune]

[Tue Nov 20 17:37:49 2012] [51 Vicar] Trim (High Elf) < Azure Guard >

you gotta have the spaces for it to show up.

[Autotune]

Would be interdasting if we could figure out a way to see if this guy has a main character in the guild "Forceful Entry" by chance. Hmmmmmmmmm....if there was only a way for someone to check..........

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[Arrisard]

Yeah, but...its not like you guys had or have had any real competition in a long time. Why are you still even killing sev really?

I don't have a green shield yet and I'm too cheap to buy one.

TARGET JUSTIFIED.

[Servellious]

LMAO darkdeath just called EQ a battlefield.

[Alarti0001]

LMAO darkdeath just called EQ a battlefield.

Lol you just posted on RnF

[Servellious]

ahhh Alarti must be a soldier in the battlefield, haha im sorry i cant stop laughing.

[Alarti0001]

ahhh Alarti must be a soldier in the battlefield, haha im sorry i cant stop laughing.

derp derp derp!

[Jacquouille]

When its not related to tmo alarti seems to be quite a cool dude !

You are off my troll_list, cannot troll someone with french lifestyle.

Tortue remains my favourite victim though ^^

[jpeute]

VA FAIRE CACA DANS TA LITIERE

[Jacquouille]

VA FAIRE CACA DANS TA LITIERE

hahaah !!!

[quido]

tu aimes le croque monsieur

[Jacquouille]

http://image.blingee.com/images15/content/output/000/000/000/467/305453915_1089394.gif

American fashion seen by a french fellow

[Alarti0001]

http://image.blingee.com/images15/content/output/000/000/000/467/305453915_1089394.gif

American fashion seen by a french fellow

Thats just the guidos!

[cyryllis]

tl dr, but we also killed sev before with 17 people and 0 clerics

[quido]

Kagok is that a picture of you in your sig?

[Netherzul]

Just for clarification on the FE guilded member in Azure Guard...

Trim (Cleric) was joking when he said the dragon was being trained around by us. He tends to drink and say silly things at times. Trim is his main character.

Powertrip AG

[Servellious]

Kagok is that a picture of you in your sig?

Nah just some picture I thought was appropriate for all the rnf ragers. How as kc zone in been recently train any other innocent people?

[quido]

Dang, that's disappointing.

I haven't been to KC in a few days, but I can tell you that no one innocent has ever been intentionally trained by me!

[Awwalike]

tite you are all bad 30+ on sev lol