Barry Obama declaring Marshal Law

[dscar23]

Youre all dumbies for re-electing Barry. Socialist president he wants it to to be Soviet Union. Gonna Marshal Law us and put us in FEMA camps. Gun oppression just the start.

You been warned

Grammar check me A in HS english fags

[Reiker000]

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[Vynn]

oh

[NachtMystium]

wat

[Diggles]

i hate this socialist country obama is making america become so im gonna move 2 a better country like canada which totally isnt completely socialist

[Tasslehofp99]

Who cares who the president is? They are just a symbol with no true power.

[Slug]

Gun oppression just the start.


Gun oppression - like how he expanded our right to carry and discharge firearms in national forests and on federal lands?

You know you can personally renounce your citizenship at any local or federal government office and be done with it - get a move on.

[Lazortag]

i hate this socialist country obama is making america become so im gonna move 2 a better country like canada which totally isnt completely socialist

Do you even know what the name of the incumbent political party in Canada is, and what its policies are?

Barry Obama declaring Marshal Law

Typically if you're trolling about the president, it's best to use the name "Barack", and add unnecessary references to his middle name to make him sound more muslim-y. This site does it best: http://www.gingpac.org/

[dredge]

its a fact that 99% of the morons bitching about Socialism don't even know what it means

[Barkingturtle]

I think it's important that people try and remember they aren't really qualified to make decisions for themselves, anyway.

[Ephirith]

Hey fiscal conservative, do you like small government?

YURSE!

Do you want to cut medicare, social security, or defense spending?

NURR

What do you want to cut?

MUYNORITIES

Where should we get the money to pay down our debt?

NOT FROM ME< I AM ENTREPRENEUR HURR SMALL BUSINESSMAN, IF YOU TAX PEOPLE THEY WON'T WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND WONT TRY IN LIFE<

[Hasbinlulz]

its a fact that 99% of the morons bitching about Socialism don't even know what it means
Most of the condemn socialist policies while simultaneously "supporting the troops."

Makes me lol.

[dscar23]

Whatever when youre fighting China for cheaper plastic toys and Barry is putting the haters in camps to make weapons of mass destruction, youll see. Me and my family already started on our fallout shelter, invested 12,000 so far.

[Hasbinlulz]

lol red dawn incoming bro

[Littlegyno 9.0]

i wanna be a wolverine.

[Black Jesus]

its a fact that 99% of the morons bitching about Socialism don't even know what it means

We are actually a centrally planned socialist economy with tons of welfare statism. Not completely Obama's fault, but it is what it is.

Do you even know what the name of the incumbent political party in Canada is, and what its policies are?

Incumbent party is irrelevant, the country is a British colony. Your monarch is Queen Elizabeth.

Typically if you're trolling about the president, it's best to use the name "Barack", and add unnecessary references to his middle name to make him sound more muslim-y. This site does it best: http://www.gingpac.org/

That's a reference to the name he used when he renounced US citizenship in favor of Indonesian schooling (invalidating his presidency, regardless of Kenyan birth); Barry Soetoro.

[Alawen]

We are actually a centrally planned socialist economy with tons of welfare statism. Not completely Obama's fault, but it is what it is.



Incumbent party is irrelevant, the country is a British colony. Your monarch is Queen Elizabeth.



That's a reference to the name he used when he renounced US citizenship in favor of Indonesian schooling (invalidating his presidency, regardless of Kenyan birth); Barry Soetoro.

It's almost impossible for a minor to renounce U.S. citizenship. The relevant law is the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). Obama was seven when he went to Catholic school in Indonesia.

Wingnut.

[Hitchens]

Any time I see someone talking about standing up against the federal government with their guns, this is what comes to mind:

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Although I guess now it would be a drone rather than a helicopter.

[Black Jesus]

It's almost impossible for a minor to renounce U.S. citizenship. The relevant law is the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). Obama was seven when he went to Catholic school in Indonesia.

Wingnut.

The U.S. is a signor of the Hague Convention's standards for international adoption, and those rules do allow the legal parents and guardians to renounce any former citizenship of a custodial minor. Upon reaching the age of 18, the minor can go before the appropriate US State Dept Official and apply for re-instatement of citizenship, and swear allegiance to the US.

There is no evidence of Obama ever doing that , and even if he did, he would then be a "Naturalized citizen" at that point and NOT "natural born" and even if ever was "natural born" would have lost that status forever and therefore regardless is NOT eligible for Office of The President of the United States of America.

[Vynn]

There is no evidence of Obama ever doing that , and even if he did, he would then be a "Naturalized citizen" at that point and NOT "natural born" and even if ever was "natural born" would have lost that status forever and therefore regardless is NOT eligible for Office of The President of the United States of America.

Are you claiming to know more than our federal government? Are you ex CIA with inside info? Pretty sure he's still the president bro. I think that's a pretty obvious problem that would have disqualified him from presidency on his 1st term. Our government may be poorly run, but it's far from unintelligent. Your current president didn't just happen to fall through a crack in the system.

[Hailto]

Do you even know what the name of the incumbent political party in Canada is, and what its policies are?



Typically if you're trolling about the president, it's best to use the name "Barack", and add unnecessary references to his middle name to make him sound more muslim-y. This site does it best: http://www.gingpac.org/

Canadians so obsessed with the happenings of America, while most Americans couldn't care less about what is going on in Canada as long as you keep supplying us with oil and maple syrup.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Who cares who the president is? They are just a symbol with no true power.

You're not serious, are you?

The President appoints to the Supreme Court. This alone is a massive power.

The President can unilaterally determine policy directions for the majority of Administrative Agencies.

The President makes treaties and international executive agreements. While the Senate advises and consents to treaties, this is in practice, still a massive power of the Presidency. Remember, treaties are the supreme law of the land under the constitution second only to the constitution itself (and in some cases possibly being supreme over constitutional amendments).

He can unilaterally remove signatures from treaties nullifying them.

The President is the commander in chief, and can start wars (Without starting a War Powers discussion, he functionally can commit acts of war unilaterally).

Need I continue? The notion that the President is weak and powerless is utterly baseless. Misconceptions like this are damaging to our social fabric and should be stymied wherever possible.

[Black Jesus]

I think it's more that the presidency has been a puppet post for the banking elite ever since they killed JFK.

[Alawen]

The U.S. is a signor of the Hague Convention's standards for international adoption, and those rules do allow the legal parents and guardians to renounce any former citizenship of a custodial minor. Upon reaching the age of 18, the minor can go before the appropriate US State Dept Official and apply for re-instatement of citizenship, and swear allegiance to the US.

There is no evidence of Obama ever doing that , and even if he did, he would then be a "Naturalized citizen" at that point and NOT "natural born" and even if ever was "natural born" would have lost that status forever and therefore regardless is NOT eligible for Office of The President of the United States of America.

You're wrong. Here's the law: INA Sec. 349 (http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-10428.html).

[Black Jesus]

Here's the international law: http://www.childwelfare.gov/adoption/types/intercountry/hague.cfm

[Reiker000]

When will people learn that arguing w/ Naez is like arguing w/ the downie that gyno gunned down.

[Black Jesus]

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[Alawen]

Here's the international law: http://www.childwelfare.gov/adoption/types/intercountry/hague.cfm

That's great. We live in the United States.

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[Alawen]

The website you listed is about American citizens adopting children from other countries. You really are a complete moron.

[Rovas]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2vqMB4xvxbA/T-w4htub-5I/AAAAAAAAAXM/frTCbUdydAc/s1600/keep-calm-and-carry-on.jpg

[Alawen]

When will people learn that arguing w/ Naez is like arguing w/ the downie that gyno gunned down.

I guess the answer is right now for me. Is he brain damaged or just pretending to be brain damaged for the yuks?

[Black Jesus]

There was no way for Soetoro/Obama to have attended school in Jakarta, Indonesia legally unless he was an Indonesian citizen, as Indonesia was under tight rule and was a Police State. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Law No. 62 of 1958. These facts indicate that Obama/Soetoro is an Indonesian citizen, and therefore he is not eligible to be President of the United States.

Since Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship; neither did the United States (since the United States only permitted dual citizenship when ‘both’ countries agree); and since Obama/Soetoro was a “natural” citizen of Indonesia, the United States would not step in or interfere with the laws of Indonesia. Hague Convention of 1930.”

[Alawen]

If he's a troll, he's really committed. If he's for real, I hope he doesn't procreate.

[Black Jesus]

Law says you can't go to school unless your an Indonesian citizen. He proudly admits that he went to school. The law also does not allow dual citizenships.

Sorry you are bad at math, but you think it's impossible for a parent to renounce citizenship (which is completely wrong) so I can't move you past your prejudice.

[Greegon]

We are actually a centrally planned socialist economy with tons of welfare statism.

ermagerd armageddon incoming


Dawg you need to stop huffing glue and watchin alex jones (hes for ENTERTAINMENT not legit ideas).

But really some of these so-called conservatives complaints about some shit is completely absurd. Not to say some people DONT need their welfare taken away but some people truly need it. (I do know a dude that traded bunch of groceries on his link card for weed LOL). Honestly just drug tests mofos and ween the people that arent super disabled off of it over time if you can...

Also, think about what would've happened if they didn't bail out the auto industry. You'd be buying all your cars from foreigners. You must BE a foreigner if you think we shouldn't have saved 'em I mean come on.

[Black Jesus]

The whole thing is a distraction though, as he's proven he's unqualified in many other ways. The man has never built or earned anything in his life, and has fundamentally destroyed the country doing more damage and in less time than Bush. Every piece of legislation brings America to tighter draconian tyranny and closer to collapse. There is nothing redeemable about this corrupt administration, and it will go down as the worst (and possibly last) in American history.

[Alawen]

Sounds like a bunch of armchair bullshit coming from a guy who will continue smoking a lot of pot and wearing his tin foil hat for another four years.

[Hitchens]

Bigfoot shot JFK and the Loch Ness Monster did 911.

[Black Jesus]

Sounds like a bunch of armchair bullshit coming from a guy who will continue smoking a lot of pot and wearing his tin foil hat for another four years.

Hey slow down man that's about 5 logical fallacies in 1 sentence!

[Alawen]

Ah, you must be an expert in symbolic logic. Please indulge me. If that was an argument, please express it in standard form, then point out formal and informal fallacies. I am eager to learn from your superior reasoning abilities.

[Black Jesus]

Can't really put it into symbolic logic as there's no real premise or argument just a conclusion. To that effect; ad hominem, argument from authority (negatively), false analogy, straw man, and ad-hoc reasoning.

[Alawen]

The whole thing is a distraction though, as he's proven he's unqualified in many other ways. The man has never built or earned anything in his life, and has fundamentally destroyed the country doing more damage and in less time than Bush. Every piece of legislation brings America to tighter draconian tyranny and closer to collapse. There is nothing redeemable about this corrupt administration, and it will go down as the worst (and possibly last) in American history.

You mean as compared to this brilliant and well-reasoned conclusion that OH MY GOD THE SKY IS FALLING? You are attempting to prove to us that Barack Obama isn't technically eligible to be president (i.e. whacko birther) and that his reelection marks the downfall of the United States. Your statements are definitive, not qualified. Those are some pretty big claims. You better have some pretty big evidence to back that up.

My commentary was not an argument. I am stating my opinion, not trying to prove it. Applying rhetorical analysis to a statement without premises or an argument makes about as much sense as claiming that I'm bad at math because I didn't buy into your bizarre legal argument about adopted children. My opinion is that you smoke too much pot and it makes your rambling borderline incomprehensible. Furthermore, my opinion is that even if you managed to reign in your chemical problems, you'd still be an idiot.

[Black Jesus]

I don't smoke pot, pretty much voiding any theory of your own life you are projecting at me (Freud would have a field day with you).

Now as far as Obama destroying the country, it is pretty self evident. Oh but I hear we only need four more years, he's gonna get rid of all this tyranny and reduce the debt. Yep any day now.

[Hitchens]

Don't be too hard on Naez. This is what happens when you get your political views from fake bands like NOFX and Leftover Crack.

[Reiker000]

Don't be too hard on Naez. This is what happens when you get your political views from fake bands like NOFX and Leftover Crack.

[Black Jesus]

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[Hasbinlulz]

Sounds like a bunch of armchair bullshit
Don't knock armchair activism buddy.

http://i.imgur.com/lK9t4.jpg

[Uthagain]

Grammar check me A in HS english fags

Martial. Not marshal.

[Black Jesus]

http://i.imgur.com/MLASt.gif

[Hasbinlulz]

^wtf is that gif?

[Tasslehofp99]

You're not serious, are you?

The President appoints to the Supreme Court. This alone is a massive power.

The President can unilaterally determine policy directions for the majority of Administrative Agencies.

The President makes treaties and international executive agreements. While the Senate advises and consents to treaties, this is in practice, still a massive power of the Presidency. Remember, treaties are the supreme law of the land under the constitution second only to the constitution itself (and in some cases possibly being supreme over constitutional amendments).

He can unilaterally remove signatures from treaties nullifying them.

The President is the commander in chief, and can start wars (Without starting a War Powers discussion, he functionally can commit acts of war unilaterally).

Need I continue? The notion that the President is weak and powerless is utterly baseless. Misconceptions like this are damaging to our social fabric and should be stymied wherever possible.


Right, so aside from appointing supreme court justices (which in itself is not that powerful because history dictates that more times than not Supreme court justices don't always follow party lines) I dont see anything here that suggests the president holds any true power? I mean, nullifying treaties is cool...but if that were to be damaging/against the best interest of the people I doubt it would stick...after all thats what "Checks & Balances" are for right? Or is that just another illusion of American "Democracy" as well? Also -- How can a president start a war without funding from congress?



As far as determining policy direction as you put it goes, the president is a mere icon for whichever political party he represents. The president has no real agenda, other then the one that is given to him by the people who put him into office.

[Tasslehofp99]

http://i.imgur.com/MLASt.gif

lol, overzealous referee wishes he was in the fight himself? :confused:

[Tasslehofp99]

lol, overzealous referee wishes he was in the fight himself? :confused:

Oh, let me correct myself...

Red singlet = Republicans
Blue singlet = democrats

Referree in black = retarded voters who support them and act like theres a difference between them when it comes down to it.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Right, so aside from appointing supreme court justices (which in itself is not that powerful because history dictates that more times than not Supreme court justices don't always follow party lines) I dont see anything here that suggests the president holds any true power? I mean, nullifying treaties is cool...but if that were to be damaging/against the best interest of the people I doubt it would stick...after all thats what "Checks & Balances" are for right? Or is that just another illusion of American "Democracy" as well? Also -- How can a president start a war without funding from congress?



As far as determining policy direction as you put it goes, the president is a mere icon for whichever political party he represents. The president has no real agenda, other then the one that is given to him by the people who put him into office.

Supreme Court appointments are incredibly powerful. Where do you get the concept that Justices jump their philosophical lines more often than they follow them? Of course deviations exist everywhere and large exceptions can be found, but these are exceptions. Had Romney been elected, you very likely would have seen Brett Kavanaugh appointed to the court and Roe overturned within a decade.

Regarding treaties, I notice you bolded the part "with the advice and consent of the Senate." Are you trying to suggest that part is a severe limited power on the president? In practice, the Senate's hands can often be tied in treaty making because the president may alternatively pursue a unilateral executive agreement raising a basketful of headache issues, so the treaty option is instead used.

The term "Checks and Balances" never appears in the constitution. True, the concept does exist within our government, but the three (or four, if you want to get cute and count agencies) branches of our government tend to be supreme within their own spheres. The checks and balances come into play when an action crosses spheres of supremacy. Within his own sphere of power, the President is incredibly powerful.

Executive agencies can make your life a living hell if they want. The President can issue commands and edicts telling those agencies exactly what to do. Yes, the President can go nuts with the following agencies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_agencies#Agencies_an d_Bureaus

As I said above, the President can unilaterally commit acts of war and there's a very sticky set of issues regarding his actual war powers. Monica Missiles anyone?

Also, there's the whole issue of emergency powers. Lincoln suspended habeas corpus. True, your checks and balances can come into play here (See: Truman & Youngstown Sheet & Tube v. Sawyer or Korematsu and the Internment Camps).

If your arguments is that the President's power is often exercised in consideration of political ramifications, I agree. Much of the power he might otherwise wield is limited by his political concerns. However, the claim "They are just a symbol with no true power." is utterly baseless.

You cannot seriously suggest that the President is an interchangeable entity that has no bearing upon our political direction. To believe that is the height of unawareness or perhaps cynicism. Neither of which is terribly healthy.

[Black Jesus]

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[Vadd]

I think it's more that the presidency has been a puppet post for the banking elite ever since they killed JFK.

[Hitchens]

I wonder how many people think Oliver Stone's JFK is a documentary.

Silliness.

[Peatree]

http://i.imgur.com/wIP1B.gif

I am so making one of these and doing this to my wife on April fools day! :D

[Raavak]

From my cold, dead hands.