What do you think

[dragonfists]

Supposedly the guy standing on the slope behind me aggro'd' the dragon first... I was camped out right in aggro range.


I call BS for two reasons:
1) The FTE zone-shout needs to get implemented, this whole raiding scene is bust.
2) Fraps dont lie.


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[Sun Nov 11 03:42:11 2012] Welcome to EverQuest!
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:11 2012] You have entered Old Sebilis.
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[Sun Nov 11 03:42:12 2012] GUILD MOTD: Shinko - Camp ur TOON BE READY FOR CALL OF TRAK
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:12 2012] Gabobab says 'At your service Master.'
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:12 2012] Mortiiss begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:13 2012] Utalnayan's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:14 2012] Sorren tells the guild, 'lfg'
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:15 2012] Wesly begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:15 2012] Ploktor tells the guild, '34/42'
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:15 2012] Trakanon says 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:15 2012] You feel a tugging at your soul. You have taken 1500 points of damage.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:16 2012] Trakanon tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:16 2012] Trakanon hits YOU for 495 points of damage.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:16 2012] Trakanon tries to bash YOU, but YOU block!
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:16 2012] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:16 2012] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:16 2012] Sebilite juggernaut tries to kick YOU, but YOU block!
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:16 2012] Mithor begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:17 2012] Cyryllis begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:17 2012] Kira tells the guild, 'Wizard lfg'
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:17 2012] Heallun begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:17 2012] Targeted (NPC): sebilite juggernaut
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:17 2012] Right click on the NPC to consider it.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:17 2012] Heallun tells the guild, '20s CH Zugsmash'
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:17 2012] Zenorek begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:17 2012] Trakanon hits YOU for 395 points of damage.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:17 2012] Trakanon tries to hit YOU, but YOU block!
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:18 2012] A green mist seeps in to your skin. You have taken 1200 points of damage.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:18 2012] You have been knocked unconscious!
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:18 2012] You have been slain by Trakanon!
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:18 2012] You have lost experience.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:18 2012] Ploktor tells the guild, '32*'
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:21 2012] froglok jin shaman begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:22 2012] Returning to West Freeport, please wait...
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:22 2012] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:39 2012] You have entered West Freeport.
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:43 2012] It begins to rain.




So what do you think..

[quido]

I think you shouldn't camp out within aggro range of Trakanon.

[Eccezan]

http://images.wikia.com/southpark/images/e/e9/ScottTenormanMustDie30.gif

[Zeelot]

You logged in and aggro'd juggs while I was DA, so Trak assisted them. lol.

Good try bro. Maybe next time

[dragonfists]

I think you shouldn't camp out within aggro range of Trakanon.

You forget 2 weeks ago? You can aggro him from prot and the jugg pathing thru his lair

[Zeelot]

[Sun Nov 11 04:42:02 2012] You try to hit Trakanon, but miss!

[dragonfists]

You logged in and aggro'd juggs while I was DA, so Trak assisted them. lol.

Good try bro. Maybe next time

So Trak was already making a b-line for you? Your plan was to pull him and prot and juggs to rock then just hanging out DA back there?

I'm not a master yet of aggro, I'll just quiet down for a bit.

GG

[Autotune]

[Sun Nov 11 04:42:02 2012] You try to hit Trakanon, but miss!

lol'd.

I'll watch this fraps in a second and use your logs and tell you what happened.

[Ele]

The new thing is to camp out in aggro range/social-aggro range?

[Autotune]

The new thing is to camp out in aggro range/social-aggro range?

that's dumb, catch a bad case of logging in and get server lag and you could die before you have time to react lol.

I suppose if you suck and you depend on being lucky to win, it would pay off a few times.

[dragonfists]

[Sun Nov 11 04:42:02 2012] You try to hit Trakanon, but miss!

Whoa so you aggro'd him a whole 10 seconds before I was in, wow

[Zeelot]

I had just aggro'd Trak and the juggs hadn't assisted on me. You aggro'd the juggs which were not yet aggro, and they were within Trakanon's assist range. I was DA, so Trakanon prioritized you via assist aggro. I made a bee line for him and positioned him, like always.

You guys were just too slow.

[Zeelot]

Apparently my pc clock isn't sync'd with yours, this will put it in perspective.

[Sun Nov 11 04:42:02 2012] Gollum's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:02 2012] Your shadows fade.
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:02 2012] You try to hit Trakanon, but miss!
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:03 2012] Gabobab says 'At your service Master.'
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:03 2012] You can't use that command right now...
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:03 2012] The gods have rendered you invulnerable.
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:03 2012] Mortiiss begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:04 2012] Utalnayan's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:04 2012] Kautin tells the guild, 'lfg'
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:05 2012] Wesly begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:06 2012] Trakanon beams a smile at Dragonfists
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:06 2012] Trakanon says 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:08 2012] Cyryllis begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:08 2012] Zenorek begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:09 2012] Scorchin begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:11 2012] Trakanon begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:13 2012] Sebilite protector tries to crush YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:13 2012] Sebilite protector tries to crush YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:13 2012] Sebilite protector tries to kick YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:15 2012] sebilite juggernaut says 'You will not evade me Houdiny!'
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:15 2012] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:15 2012] Sebilite juggernaut tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:15 2012] Sebilite juggernaut tries to bash YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:16 2012] Sebilite protector tries to crush YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:16 2012] Sebilite protector tries to crush YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!

[Ele]

Whoa so you aggro'd him a whole 10 seconds before I was in, wow

Log files are based off your PC's clock, not the server clock.

[Autotune]

at the loading screen, do pause/play/pause/play repeat it over and over until you start getting hit.

Trak is moving, aggro'd on someone, he changes direction to you, kills you, then immediately goes back to whoever he had aggro on.

case closed, you weren't FTE.

[Taelara]

Nice try guys. Too bad you're just plain awful - and hilarious.

[dragonfists]

Log files are based off your PC's clock, not the server clock.

right, which is why fraps and server log is better

[Paumad]

My logs show me killing Trak 6 hours in the future according to timestamps. Gief lewts.

[Eccezan]

at the loading screen, do pause/play/pause/play repeat it over and over until you start getting hit.

Trak is moving, aggro'd on someone, he changes direction to you, kills you, then immediately goes back to whoever he had aggro on.

case closed, you weren't FTE.

Dont need to even pause/play to know that trak has already moved from his spawn point before he even logged in.

[Autotune]

Dont need to even pause/play to know that trak has already moved from his spawn point before he even logged in.

Trak does move, or did when I played, on his own (pathing).

However, you can tell the difference between his pathing movements and his "aggro'd gonna fuck someone up" movements.

So it's good to show him where to look and what to look for.

the pause play shows how rapid his movements are and in a direction not toward him. After he dies, trak never went into seek mode, he just shot back to someone else already on the list.

Those 2 things show he wasn't FTE.

[jeffd]

is this really what you guys consider drama on blue

jesus

[Shinko]

so jugg aggo is higher then zeelot miss on trak? guess fraps shows this

[Shinko]

with z being DA after his hit

[Alarti0001]

I'm not a master yet of aggro, I'll just quiet down for a bit.



This is the only solid point you have made this thread.

[Shinko]

just go away alarti

[Shinko]

oh its snowing outside

[Autotune]

does no one in FE know how aggro works?

[quido]

It was like 70 degrees here today in Michigan - I couldn't believe it.

[Lexical]

Honestly, I was half expecting Trak to be downed by the time he logged in.

[Metallikus]

Obvious by the log overlap zeelot had agro and DA'd before dragonfists logged in. Pretty obvious by the video Trakanon was running toward the kill spot in the nook as dragonfists logged in. It pathed right over where Protector was in the first shot but protector was probly up front on his path at the time and protector has unusually low agro range. THe 2 juggs (one at front and one that roams with protector) would have added at about the same time tho because their agro/assist range is high. The juggs / protector had not aggroed yet because Zeelot was invising on the trak pull and then DA'd.

[Ele]

TIL: Trak needs a larger aggro radius.

[Ilakje]

If I camped out in aggro range and logged in and died in 1 second I'd be too embarased to show fraps of how retarded I am. But that's just me.

[Tanthallas]

Nice try guys. Too bad you're just plain awful - and hilarious.

Shouldn't you be vent bombing BDA some more?

[tehruoh]

It was like 70 degrees here today in Michigan - I couldn't believe it.

WHERE U LIVE IN MI BRO LETS HAVE A BURR

[Treats]

Looks like one of you aggro'd a split second before the other.

Logs are both 4 seconds off. (No one smart enough to point this out yet?)

Dragonfists log:

[Sun Nov 11 03:42:15 2012] Trakanon says 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:15 2012] You feel a tugging at your soul. You have taken 1500 points of damage.

Zeelot's log:

[Sun Nov 11 04:42:06 2012] Trakanon beams a smile at Dragonfists
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:06 2012] Trakanon says 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'

Dragonfists logged in at [Sun Nov 11 03:42:11 2012] -- 4 seconds before...

Zeelot missed Trakanon at [Sun Nov 11 04:42:02 2012] -- 4 seconds before...

[tehruoh]

some srs detective work brews

[Metallikus]

Looks like one of you aggro'd a split second before the other.

Logs are both 4 seconds off. (No one smart enough to point this out yet?)

Dragonfists log:

[Sun Nov 11 03:42:15 2012] Trakanon says 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'
[Sun Nov 11 03:42:15 2012] You feel a tugging at your soul. You have taken 1500 points of damage.

Zeelot's log:

[Sun Nov 11 04:42:06 2012] Trakanon beams a smile at Dragonfists
[Sun Nov 11 04:42:06 2012] Trakanon says 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'

Dragonfists logged in at [Sun Nov 11 03:42:11 2012] -- 4 seconds before...

Zeelot missed Trakanon at [Sun Nov 11 04:42:02 2012] -- 4 seconds before...


just because the log shows zeelot missing , doesnt mean thats whe he agro'd trak. Before he got close enough to miss, he agro'd trak before this either with a body pull or soemthing else.

[Ambrotos]

100% Zeelot had agro first. Can also mention Dragonfists was dead before anyone in his guild could get on the agro list at all (IE:none) so it would have acted like a death touch. Trying to claim Trakanon by logging in and being killed in 3 seconds sounds pro to me.

[dragonfists]

100% Zeelot had agro first. Can also mention Dragonfists was dead before anyone in his guild could get on the agro list at all (IE:none) so it would have acted like a death touch. Trying to claim Trakanon by logging in and being killed in 3 seconds sounds pro to me.

I had an idol ready to click as you can see in the video. My plan was not to be "pro" and log in and die in 3 seconds, my plan was to get FTE, wait for shroom then call engage. When I logged in I saw Trak already rushing so I assumed someone else had pulled and Trak would race by me to the person with aggro.. apparently the aggro was mine but I'm sure glad I didnt waste my idol now.

[Treats]

100% Zeelot had agro first.

Was it at least close though?! :P

[Loly Taa]

I had an idol ready to click as you can see in the video. My plan was not to be "pro" and log in and die in 3 seconds, my plan was to get FTE, wait for shroom then call engage. When I logged in I saw Trak already rushing so I assumed someone else had pulled and Trak would race by me to the person with aggro.. apparently the aggro was mine but I'm sure glad I didnt waste my idol now.

I think you should've ran to him

[iNteg]

WHERE U LIVE IN MI BRO LETS HAVE A BURR

MICRO BURRS IN MICHIGAN.