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Eccezan
10-31-2012, 12:21 AM
Maybe find better success playing this game than EQ?

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Eccezan
10-31-2012, 12:25 AM
Oh and if you really want to play...

http://www.foddy.net/Athletics.html

Phatso
10-31-2012, 12:30 AM
heres a suggestion for you

www.jokes.com/ (http://www.jokes.com/)

quido
10-31-2012, 12:31 AM
Black guys can't run.

hatelore
10-31-2012, 12:36 AM
I was able to knee-hobble 17.9 meters!

Eccezan
10-31-2012, 12:40 AM
heres a suggestion for you

www.jokes.com/ (http://www.jokes.com/)

jealousy will get you nowhere

http://i.imgur.com/F1bmZ.jpg

Eccezan
10-31-2012, 12:42 AM
victory is mine
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ytds9nRw1qzul5to1_400.gif

hatelore
10-31-2012, 12:42 AM
Clearly you used show-qwop. Aint no way you got 53 meters , thats straight up hackerism.

Diggles
10-31-2012, 12:54 AM
mqwop2

Diggles
10-31-2012, 01:05 AM
qwop was harder when IB played it

Eccezan
10-31-2012, 01:09 AM
not sure how i got 53 meters, havent been able to come close since that one...either way...opulence, I has it.

http://gifsoup.com/view/1007305/opulence-i-has-it-o.gif

Zeelot
10-31-2012, 02:38 AM
That game is a mind fuck.

Nirgon
10-31-2012, 03:16 AM
Lol I heard they killed VS without enchanter rune spam. Wtf is going on with this box.

Aesun
10-31-2012, 04:23 AM
Shit.
http://i49.tinypic.com/i6jiom.png

Jacquouille
10-31-2012, 04:41 AM
Maybe find better success playing this game than EQ?



They got VS over you, whilst you wiped ?

hahaha

quido
10-31-2012, 04:43 AM
Check your facts, turbotard. BDA wiped to VS, then BDA and FE delayed VS by training him around.

We'll see how it turns out =)

Jacquouille
10-31-2012, 04:48 AM
Check your facts, turbotard. BDA wiped to VS, then BDA and FE delayed VS by training him around.

We'll see how it turns out =)

Lol Jeremy, you're so easy to wind up. Going ad hominem makes you sound mad though, I sense pain in your words...hmm...pain...

Tanthallas
10-31-2012, 04:54 AM
BDA and FE trained him around....or just a BDA monk?

quido
10-31-2012, 04:58 AM
Why do idiots (see Diggles) always accuse me of that? Insulting you personally is the perfect complement to my offering of the truth. I suppose I'm constantly livid too because I'm always cursing, right? Despite my filthy mouth and my earnest bluntness and my aversion to being pushed around by sketchball assholes, I'm pretty good-natured generally.

What do you expect when you come here and demonstrate your ignorance? You should be familiar with a situation before you start trolling people with regard to it, dumbass.

Eccezan
10-31-2012, 05:00 AM
BDA and FE trained him around....or just a BDA monk?

More like BDA + Forceful Entry displaying one of the most sustained, purposeful, and INTENTIONAL stalling/kiting/monk flopping nonsense of Venril Sathir for damn near 5 minutes that I have ever seen in high resolution fraps from several different angles.

quido
10-31-2012, 05:08 AM
BDA and FE trained him around....or just a BDA monk?

I see Scorchin, Dragonfists (with multiple engages and FDs), and Raymor all delaying!

Jacquouille
10-31-2012, 05:12 AM
The way those thick cunts care so much, frapsing n shit when the two guilds who get like 1% of the mobs finally get a boss, that's just hilarious ^^

I sense GM drama inc, TMO does not accept when guilds start playing as dirty as them hah !

Tanthallas
10-31-2012, 05:40 AM
More like BDA + Forceful Entry displaying one of the most sustained, purposeful, and INTENTIONAL stalling/kiting/monk flopping nonsense of Venril Sathir for damn near 5 minutes that I have ever seen in high resolution fraps from several different angles.


You sound deeply bothered by this.

We do have another spot available for a wizard, but unfortunately we have a strict no crying bitches policy.

I am sure daddy Zeelot will protect you in VP though...atleast until Forceful Entry becomes familiar enough with the place to make him irrelevant.

arsenalpow
10-31-2012, 05:44 AM
We have nothing coordinated with FE. Now who has tin foil hats...

The VS fraps was a pile of stupidity, people running around like idiots trying not to die and a bunch of FD class shenanigans. This is what TMO wanted right??? This is competition isn't it?? Anytime a raid mob is late in window it will degrade to this level of retardation. Just look at Hate last night, we are actually clearing the zone hoping for an Inny spawn and you bring up the shit brigade and drop 4 FD classes on his spawn point.

Same shit at Trak when Ambrotos awarded us an engage. Instead of having an actual raid force there and ready everyone has an army of logged off toons and a bunch of FD classes ready to snipe FTE and/or stall tank. I know BDA doesn't want to raid like that but now that FE is on the scene it will just incite even more stupidity.

Jacquouille
10-31-2012, 05:50 AM
Why do idiots (see Diggles) always accuse me of that? Insulting you personally is the perfect complement to my offering of the truth. I suppose I'm constantly livid too because I'm always cursing, right? Despite my filthy mouth and my earnest bluntness and my aversion to being pushed around by sketchball assholes, I'm pretty good-natured generally.

What do you expect when you come here and demonstrate your ignorance? You should be familiar with a situation before you start trolling people with regard to it, dumbass.

http://ct.fra.bz/i60/5/11/21/f_f9d27ca7ab.jpg

quido
10-31-2012, 05:57 AM
"Our method of camping the spawn of a mob late in window is better than yours."

Tanthallas
10-31-2012, 06:18 AM
I know BDA doesn't want to raid like that but now that FE is on the scene it will just incite even more stupidity.

There comes a point where you have to stop crying about how shit is and do something to change it.

Nerosys
10-31-2012, 06:28 AM
More like BDA + Forceful Entry displaying one of the most sustained, purposeful, and INTENTIONAL stalling/kiting/monk flopping nonsense of Venril Sathir for damn near 5 minutes that I have ever seen in high resolution fraps from several different angles.

Oh shit you got fraps? Ah fuck guys lets go home i guess he found us out.


/rolls eyes

Jacquouille
10-31-2012, 07:17 AM
He has fraps.

Packets of death otw aswell

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 08:28 AM
He has fraps.

Packets of death otw aswell

Man visceral has been posting alot lately. Someone is lonely and raging.

falkun
10-31-2012, 08:53 AM
Man visceral has been posting alot lately. Someone is lonely and raging.

By this logic, you've been raging and lonely for months. C'mon master of logic, I expect more from you.

Jacquouille
10-31-2012, 08:53 AM
Jacquouille

Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 18

vs

Alarti0001

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle
Posts: 687

Ok dude :D

Jacquouille
10-31-2012, 08:55 AM
quido

Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,282

Poor jeremy, Mean fatarti :(

deneauth
10-31-2012, 09:02 AM
The QQ in this thread went well with my morning coffee, thanks guys. Keep it up!

quido
10-31-2012, 09:04 AM
I guess Nagach, Visceral, and TMFail don't count.

radditsu
10-31-2012, 09:11 AM
We have nothing coordinated with FE. Now who has tin foil hats...

The VS fraps was a pile of stupidity, people running around like idiots trying not to die and a bunch of FD class shenanigans. This is what TMO wanted right??? This is competition isn't it?? Anytime a raid mob is late in window it will degrade to this level of retardation. Just look at Hate last night, we are actually clearing the zone hoping for an Inny spawn and you bring up the shit brigade and drop 4 FD classes on his spawn point.

Same shit at Trak when Ambrotos awarded us an engage. Instead of having an actual raid force there and ready everyone has an army of logged off toons and a bunch of FD classes ready to snipe FTE and/or stall tank. I know BDA doesn't want to raid like that but now that FE is on the scene it will just incite even more stupidity.



Qft
2 more days until my shaman ass gets back and it will look like that classic jeremy vp video all night long

Jacquouille
10-31-2012, 09:12 AM
I guess Nagach, Visceral, and TMFail don't count.

Nagach was like what 50 posts ?

I never created any account with Visceral, sorry :(

And TMFail, we were like 5, so, nope, it doesn't count :)

radditsu
10-31-2012, 09:14 AM
More like BDA + Forceful Entry displaying one of the most sustained, purposeful, and INTENTIONAL stalling/kiting/monk flopping nonsense of Venril Sathir for damn near 5 minutes that I have ever seen in high resolution fraps from several different angles.

Good job guys. Keep it up!

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 09:14 AM
Jacquouille

Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 18

vs

Alarti0001

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle
Posts: 687

Ok dude :D


Derp, Post count only increases from non-rnf posts. So basically you are nothing but a forum troll. I post in other forums to help the community!

Thanks for helping. (JEEZ U BE DUM)

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 09:16 AM
By this logic, you've been raging and lonely for months. C'mon master of logic, I expect more from you.

Go deeper into the logic... I actually play here. Nice try, but I didn't expect much from your diminutive brain.

Jacquouille
10-31-2012, 09:19 AM
diminutive brain.

Insults, again, I sense an inferiority complexe here aswell.

/hug

Calabee
10-31-2012, 09:21 AM
i'd actually like to see some of you guys post count if they counted em in R&F -_-

Cochonou
10-31-2012, 09:23 AM
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1387/o71nm.jpg

Kraftwerk
10-31-2012, 09:54 AM
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1387/o71nm.jpg

Haha, gave me a good laugh.

Nirgon
10-31-2012, 12:36 PM
Lol I heard they killed VS without enchanter rune spam. Wtf is going on with this box.

Also VP keys are not body bound here like Seb and HS keys.

Things would be oh so very different if little classic changes had been made.

For instance, VS woulda been full hp the entire time against a tank that wasn't runed. Oh and their entire raid would be dead very, very, very fast.

Autotune
10-31-2012, 12:54 PM
Also VP keys are not body bound here like Seb and HS keys.

Things would be oh so very different if little classic changes had been made.

For instance, VS woulda been full hp the entire time against a tank that wasn't runed. Oh and their entire raid would be dead very, very, very fast.

Not trying to imply that VS had an AE still are you?

Nirgon
10-31-2012, 01:13 PM
That DB oddly lists him as having that aoe tap. It also locks out access except to admin level because he was changed so much, even so close to launch.

Another strange finding is that he has these abilities listed but no mana. Go figure.

The true change is that he should be proc'ing his lifetap every hit and on ripostes.

At least I come clean when I'm wrong unlike some other nefarious individuals around here bud.

If VS was doubling for his usual melee + 1500x2 you guys wouldn't be in this VS mess now would ya? Would be a wipe for FE and lolz all around for you guys. Yet, I am met with adversity.

Autotune
10-31-2012, 02:05 PM
That DB oddly lists him as having that aoe tap. It also locks out access except to admin level because he was changed so much, even so close to launch.

Another strange finding is that he has these abilities listed but no mana. Go figure.

The true change is that he should be proc'ing his lifetap every hit and on ripostes.

At least I come clean when I'm wrong unlike some other nefarious individuals around here bud.

If VS was doubling for his usual melee + 1500x2 you guys wouldn't be in this VS mess now would ya? Would be a wipe for FE and lolz all around for you guys. Yet, I am met with adversity.

I'm not saying he is tuned correctly and I don't care if FE is able to kill him or not. However, he shouldn't be changed just to make things easier or harder on another guild.

Make him spawn 30 trakanons, if it's supported classicly, but don't give him an AE when he isn't supposed to have it.

I am definitely okay with him having a lifesteal on every hit, even ripostes, b/c as it is now it's definitely not how people describe him being. I've just seen a few posts that mention the Frontal AE being a lie and that it was just to get melee to stand behind him. Me being new to EQ raiding (never played classic) I did homework on targets like most people do for WoW dungeons/raids.

Nirgon
10-31-2012, 02:15 PM
I'm not trying to support one guild or another, I can assure you of that

Huggz
10-31-2012, 02:17 PM
Agreed Jaq,

Jeremy confirmed unemployed social reject.

There is a world outside, check it out brah!

Hurley
10-31-2012, 02:34 PM
Just here to let you know we killed Inny this morning also.

Carry on.

Diggles
10-31-2012, 02:35 PM
i'd actually like to see some of you guys post count if they counted em in R&F -_-

nirgon will give you a good idea, red RNF counted towards post count

Ilakje
10-31-2012, 02:40 PM
Just here to let you know we killed Inny this morning also.

Carry on.

You poopsocked Inny. TMO got FTE. Grats on your WTP.

Raavak
10-31-2012, 02:41 PM
The true change is that he should be proc'ing his lifetap every hit and on ripostes.
Wait, VS isn't lifetapping every hit? Wtf thats so wrong.

Hurley
10-31-2012, 02:42 PM
You poopsocked Inny. TMO got FTE. Grats on your WTP.

Wrong

Eccezan
10-31-2012, 02:45 PM
Wrong

fraid you are wrong...

Hurley
10-31-2012, 02:45 PM
fraid you are wrong...

Wrong

Eccezan
10-31-2012, 02:47 PM
So it seems that Shinko & Sloan just struck a deal with Chuck E Cheese for redemption of WTP's (Wasted Time Points) from the failed poopsocks.

Quite a variety of items you can get!
http://momof6.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Chuck-E-Cheese-Prize-Picking.jpg

Llaile
10-31-2012, 02:50 PM
Daaaaamn, how many WTPs for that spongebob?

Hurley
10-31-2012, 02:51 PM
TMO is in full on panic mode, love it!

Nirgon
10-31-2012, 02:51 PM
Yeah I wouldn't mind my red rnf posts not counting, whatever.

I think what you'll realize is that if anyone is going to get any mobs from you, they are going to have to bring the sock.

This is going to lead to FTE disputes, but if they want their loot, this kind of stuff is going to have to happen.

radditsu
10-31-2012, 02:53 PM
TMO is in full on panic mode, love it!

Right on son.

Versus
10-31-2012, 03:05 PM
Thanks for the rot loot off Inny, how'd the sock feel?

Hurley
10-31-2012, 03:12 PM
Thanks for the rot loot off Inny, how'd the sock feel?

Fear leads to hate...

Diggles
10-31-2012, 03:14 PM
Hate leads to Veeshans

Versus
10-31-2012, 03:25 PM
Fear leads to hate...

Translation please.

Phats
10-31-2012, 03:26 PM
FE now taking the #1 spot over BDA, and TMO is imploding is all i read from this thread.

Nizzarr
10-31-2012, 03:29 PM
lol blue server

agdros
10-31-2012, 03:31 PM
lol blue server

YA!! its that part of the thread where some random Red server person tries to remain relevant.

Diggles
10-31-2012, 03:40 PM
nah he's not random he's wheelchair police of p99

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 03:48 PM
TMO is in full on panic mode, love it!

HAHAHAHA I love how FE poopsocks 2 targets and think they are competitive. TMO isn't poopsocking and we have no intention too. Although, I'm sure if you keep poopsocking we will be forced to start poopsocking, and then that is when your sad little guild will end. Because we can split up those late nights across our guild, and you just don't have the manpower to do that. That is how we killed BDA and VD prior to you, how have you not figured this out, most of you are ex VD/BDA. If you want to pretend to be competitive or skilled compete like IB did. I don't really see this happening enjoy your long nights.

Autotune
10-31-2012, 03:49 PM
how did FE find so many delusional people?

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 03:49 PM
Thanks for the rot loot off Inny, how'd the sock feel?

Did we get that FTE? Waiting on VS too hooroo

FE = Late nights no loots

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 03:50 PM
how did FE find so many delusional people?

..... Sloan, Harazzer, and Shinko are in charge?

Autotune
10-31-2012, 03:51 PM
HAHAHAHA I love how FE poopsocks 2 targets and think they are competitive. TMO isn't poopsocking and we have no intention too. Although, I'm sure if you keep poopsocking we will be forced to start poopsocking, and then that is when your sad little guild will end. Because we can split up those late nights across our guild, and you just don't have the manpower to do that. That is how we killed BDA and VD prior to you, how have you not figured this out, most of you are ex VD/BDA. If you want to pretend to be competitive or skilled compete like IB did. I don't really see this happening enjoy your long nights.

nevermind, Alarti answered this.

All the shitty delusional people from the defeated guilds all joined up into one super shitty delusional guild.

Going places...

HeallunRumblebelly
10-31-2012, 03:53 PM
YA!! its that part of the thread where some random Red server person tries to remain relevant.

WHAT"S DEAD MAY NEVER DIE!

Autotune
10-31-2012, 03:56 PM
FE

Fails Engage

Fags Eloped

Failed Experiment

Autotune
10-31-2012, 03:56 PM
Heallun, are you in that FE guild? please say no.

Tanthallas
10-31-2012, 03:58 PM
Just a routine training session today huh...showing all your people who have no clue where to go and what to do in VP around. You do that all the time, it has nothing to do with that shitty Forceful Entry guild now does it?

Tanthallas
10-31-2012, 04:01 PM
Why dont you come back so I can fuck your world up Stealin...or have you become content with talking shit from the sidelines?

Hasbinlulz
10-31-2012, 04:03 PM
Oh shit, is FE actually getting targets?

Hasbinlulz
10-31-2012, 04:04 PM
1 way or the other?

Tanthallas
10-31-2012, 04:07 PM
oh shit

radditsu
10-31-2012, 04:08 PM
Oh shit, is FE actually getting targets?

Forceful entry doing big things. Rogues needed.

Autotune
10-31-2012, 04:08 PM
Why dont you come back so I can fuck your world up Stealin...or have you become content with talking shit from the sidelines?

I highly doubt you have any more skill than Perun, Adrianna, Kinsawt or Bisch when it comes to training. I feel no need to come back so the towl boy can show me his 'awesome abilities'...

get real.

Tanthallas
10-31-2012, 04:09 PM
Then dont bitch.

Tanthallas
10-31-2012, 04:10 PM
Make yourself fucking useful and go find another hot chick, this one is getting old.

Autotune
10-31-2012, 04:11 PM
Then dont bitch.

only one bitching is yourself.

Hasbinlulz
10-31-2012, 04:12 PM
I might have to download this fucking game again lmao.

Tanthallas
10-31-2012, 04:13 PM
Atleast daddy Zeelot has more balls than you.

Autotune
10-31-2012, 04:13 PM
I might have to download this fucking game again lmao.

if you do, i'll bet you $100 that you'll end up getting annoyed at them in-game and how they operate and bounce. (you will have to be 100% honest)

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 04:14 PM
Atleast daddy Zeelot has more balls than you.

OOOO i love guy I wonder if he can replace the hole in my heart hatelores left.

Autotune
10-31-2012, 04:14 PM
Atleast daddy Zeelot has more balls than you.

don't kid yourself. Zeelot would train his own grandmother if she stepped into VP.

Hasbinlulz
10-31-2012, 04:15 PM
Oh, I'm already annoyed at them, but I will do any raid which has a chance of success to fuck with the people that made my my guild cry and quit.

radditsu
10-31-2012, 04:16 PM
don't kid yourself. Zeelot would train his own grandmother if she stepped into VP.

Forceful entry recruiting highly skilled vp keyed grandmothers. Tells to tanrin.

Hasbinlulz
10-31-2012, 04:16 PM
The enemy of my enemy and what not. It's how radicals deal with other radicals on the street. We don't like each other personally quite often, but we all HATE the same shit.

agdros
10-31-2012, 04:17 PM
YA!!!Its that part of the thread where people who have not played in months try to remain relevant.

Autotune
10-31-2012, 04:17 PM
Oh, I'm already annoyed at them, but I will do any raid which has a chance of success to fuck with the people that made my my guild cry and quit.

I can dig it. I've heard a few other IB people were helping them awhile back, not sure if true, but it might give you some 'normalish' people to talk to while playing.

radditsu
10-31-2012, 04:21 PM
YA!!!Its that part of the thread where people who have not played in months try to remain relevant.

Like Clockwork amirite?

Eccezan
10-31-2012, 04:27 PM
Oh, I'm already annoyed at them, but I will do any raid which has a chance of success to fuck with the people that made my my guild cry and quit.

lmao see you in game man

Nirgon
10-31-2012, 04:36 PM
I'd suggest FE stay far away from this section of the forums and throw a javelin at every single mob that spawns. Only chance, sock it up.

Nirgon
10-31-2012, 04:37 PM
Definitely make the OS, HS and VP keys body bound.

Hasbinlulz
10-31-2012, 04:40 PM
lmao see you in game man
lulz maybe :D

Hurley
10-31-2012, 05:53 PM
1 week of FE raiding and TMO sounds like BDA.


Love it

Eccezan
10-31-2012, 06:17 PM
1 week of FE raiding and TMO sounds like BDA.


Love it

http://i.imgur.com/qXxeC.jpg

Tarathiel
10-31-2012, 06:49 PM
holy shit, people are still crying about the same shit happening, wtf i thought there were some changes supposedly coming to the raid scene. the fact that these threads continue to pop is just fuckint pathetic. WHO FUCKING CARES WHO KILLED VS FOR THE 4742895042457234927 TIME?

Lexical
10-31-2012, 06:52 PM
holy shit, people are still crying about the same shit happening, wtf i thought there were some changes supposedly coming to the raid scene. the fact that these threads continue to pop is just fuckint pathetic. WHO FUCKING CARES WHO KILLED VS FOR THE 4742895042457234927 TIME?

They care Tarathiel. They care.

BigSlip
10-31-2012, 06:52 PM
holy shit, people are still crying about the same shit happening, wtf i thought there were some changes supposedly coming to the raid scene. the fact that these threads continue to pop is just fuckint pathetic. WHO FUCKING CARES WHO KILLED VS FOR THE 4742895042457234927 TIME?

lol you seem to give a fuck more than anyone..




DERP

hatelore
10-31-2012, 06:53 PM
OOOO i love guy I wonder if he can replace the hole in my heart hatelores left.

dont have to bring me into your cryfest please alarti :)

radditsu
10-31-2012, 06:53 PM
holy shit, people are still crying about the same shit happening, wtf i thought there were some changes supposedly coming to the raid scene. the fact that these threads continue to pop is just fuckint pathetic. WHO FUCKING CARES WHO KILLED VS FOR THE 4742895042457234927 TIME?

Tmo does.

Eccezan
10-31-2012, 07:11 PM
Tmo does.

http://i.imgur.com/G7R9Y.jpg

Eccezan
10-31-2012, 07:16 PM
testing new sig

Eccezan
10-31-2012, 07:17 PM
~

Sweetbaby Jesus
10-31-2012, 07:18 PM
Gratz TMO.

Tarathiel
10-31-2012, 07:46 PM
lol you seem to give a fuck more than anyone..




DERP

you confuse my surprise with me actually giving a fuck. seriously tho, how much of the same shit can this server take? the pool of high end raiders is going to dry up eventually if these changes dont go in to effect sooner than later it might be too late

Akim
10-31-2012, 07:55 PM
thank you for your suggestions, they have made me ultra pro and now I am able to cancel my viagra.

arsenalpow
10-31-2012, 08:53 PM
i'm surprised they gave forceful entry the VS loot when orson had the FTE when that's the be all end all rule, sets a very sketchy precedent

Servellious
10-31-2012, 08:57 PM
rules are flipper flopped

Harazzer
10-31-2012, 08:59 PM
i'm surprised they gave forceful entry the VS loot when orson had the FTE when that's the be all end all rule, sets a very sketchy precedent

Maybe you guys should actually try to kill the mob sometime rather than just sit there and hope to be closest to it when someone else kills it?

Autotune
10-31-2012, 09:00 PM
i'm surprised they gave forceful entry the VS loot when orson had the FTE when that's the be all end all rule, sets a very sketchy precedent

I'm surprised anyone got to keep that loot. Staff seems to be saying, "it pays to be non-legit".

Blotto
10-31-2012, 09:29 PM
Non legit? we killed the mob after BDA's finest wiped and had a cleric stalling by training VS around in circles for minutes.

Wanna talk non legit let's talk about TMO getting FTE on Inny with 10 people and no tank in the zone and praying for us to kill it.

Tarathiel
10-31-2012, 10:02 PM
I'm surprised anyone got to keep that loot. Staff seems to be saying, "it pays to be non-legit".

QFT

i think its nuts how often im finding myself in agreement with stealin these days

Orruar
10-31-2012, 10:19 PM
Great success! 7m:20s, no world records today

http://s15.postimage.org/6vkk9xgzf/qwop.png

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 11:20 PM
i'm surprised they gave forceful entry the VS loot when orson had the FTE when that's the be all end all rule, sets a very sketchy precedent

oh this is going to be hard.... i ....a.gre.ee .....with....you....

/vomit

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 11:21 PM
Maybe you guys should actually try to kill the mob sometime rather than just sit there and hope to be closest to it when someone else kills it?

quoth the poopsocker.

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 11:22 PM
Non legit? we killed the mob after BDA's finest wiped and had a cleric stalling by training VS around in circles for minutes.

Wanna talk non legit let's talk about TMO getting FTE on Inny with 10 people and no tank in the zone and praying for us to kill it.

Inny is a 1 group target nubcakes

doraf
10-31-2012, 11:28 PM
Inny is a 1 group target nubcakes

Maybe so, but not the one group TMO had up there.

Harazzer
10-31-2012, 11:39 PM
Inny is a 1 group target nubcakes

Says the guy who brings 60 people to vs only to stand around holding your dicks while our 9 kill him in your face.

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 11:42 PM
Says the guy who brings 60 people to vs only to stand around holding your dicks while our 9 kill him in your face.

He was trained away, you arent supposed to kill him out that way.. This was a standing rule, be thankful.

oh and LOL you killed VS..... the guild you used to be in killed VS many times than you

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 11:42 PM
Maybe so, but not the one group TMO had up there.

Oh do tell me what you know about our chances of killing Inny lol

arsenalpow
10-31-2012, 11:43 PM
He was trained away, you arent supposed to kill him out that way.. This was a standing rule, be thankful.

oh and LOL you killed VS..... the guild you used to be in killed VS many times than you

we're talking about VS right? that's the only standing raid rule that' i'm aware of (VS must be killed in his pit/room)


I hate this FTE drama, sitting on spawn points, etc etc - it's not fun and i'd rather us work on a better way to make this happen. Any takers??

Alarti0001
10-31-2012, 11:44 PM
we're talking about VS right? that's the only standing raid rule that' i'm aware of (VS must be killed in his pit/room)


I hate this FTE drama, sitting on spawn points, etc etc - it's not fun and i'd rather us work on a better way to make this happen. Any takers??

Ya VS can not be kited. Since way back when IB was still here

Harazzer
10-31-2012, 11:49 PM
He was trained away, you arent supposed to kill him out that way.. This was a standing rule, be thankful.

oh and LOL you killed VS..... the guild you used to be in killed VS many times than you

So what are you arguing anyway? First you attempt some sort of backhanded insult that it "took" us 20 to kill inny and spin it into some sort of whine about us not playing fair at vs? Which shitty argument am I supposed to dismantle?

we're talking about VS right? that's the only standing raid rule that' i'm aware of (VS must be killed in his pit/room)


I hate this FTE drama, sitting on spawn points, etc etc - it's not fun and i'd rather us work on a better way to make this happen. Any takers??

I mean its not the best way but as we have talked about previously sirken has made his call on it so it is what it is. Considering how many times it has worked out in your favor lately you can't be too upset about it.

doraf
10-31-2012, 11:51 PM
Oh do tell me what you know about our chances of killing Inny lol

Oviously, TMO didn't have one lastnight. You're welcome for the loot.

quido
11-01-2012, 12:02 AM
QQ

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 12:02 AM
Oviously, TMO didn't have one lastnight. You're welcome for the loot.

actually that isnt to obvious we had the force and... the fte :)

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 12:03 AM
So what are you arguing anyway? First you attempt some sort of backhanded insult that it "took" us 20 to kill inny and spin it into some sort of whine about us not playing fair at vs? Which shitty argument am I supposed to dismantle?



You need to check your sources. I said nothing about your numbers... I wasnt there.

Phats
11-01-2012, 12:55 AM
FE now taking the #1 spot over BDA, and TMO is imploding is all i read from this thread.

Just sayin~~

Phats
11-01-2012, 12:56 AM
So what are you arguing anyway? First you attempt some sort of backhanded insult that it "took" us 20 to kill inny and spin it into some sort of whine about us not playing fair at vs? Which shitty argument am I supposed to dismantle?



I mean its not the best way but as we have talked about previously sirken has made his call on it so it is what it is. Considering how many times it has worked out in your favor lately you can't be too upset about it.

Harazzer confirmed oustanding at turning any troll attempt against him

Sunnyvale
11-01-2012, 02:02 AM
Non legit? we killed the mob after BDA's finest wiped and had a cleric stalling by training VS around in circles for minutes.

Wanna talk non legit let's talk about TMO getting FTE on Inny with 10 people and no tank in the zone and praying for us to kill it.

We had 18 in the zone including 2 warriors and a Shadow Knight. Where are you getting your information?

Eccezan
11-01-2012, 02:06 AM
Getting this thread back on track. Read it and weep ladies...

http://i.imgur.com/vglfY.jpg

HeallunRumblebelly
11-01-2012, 02:40 AM
QWOP would be 10 times the game if they had a timer. I've beaten it simply using my thighs doing some kind of jiggle, but it took like 5 minutes :|

Diggles
11-01-2012, 03:12 AM
simply using my thighs doing some kind of jiggle

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 03:21 AM
i'm surprised they gave forceful entry the VS loot when orson had the FTE when that's the be all end all rule, sets a very sketchy precedent

rofl.

rofl.

rofl.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 03:25 AM
I hate this FTE drama, sitting on spawn points, etc etc - it's not fun and i'd rather us work on a better way to make this happen. Any takers??

We put forth many offers to you about cooperation, and even some to TMO. None were met with anything but hostility. TMO was actually more civil about it than you. Time to play the game you asked for and stop fucking QQing.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 03:27 AM
We had 18 in the zone including 2 warriors and a Shadow Knight. Where are you getting your information?

From the fucking logs Sirken sent me?

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 03:33 AM
TMO did between 1/4-1/3 the total damage on inny, FE did the rest.

FE tanked it between two tanks, with the first taking the DT.

TMO got FTE through a monk and a wizard who were on inny's hate list a second before Talenos. This was through closer proximity to the spawn.

TMO got a legitimate FTE based on how it is currently defined. They did not wipe and kite it around - they stayed engaged with what they had while FE killed it thinking they had FTE.

I really fail to see wtf the issue is here other than the mounds of sand in Alarti's vagina.

quido
11-01-2012, 03:37 AM
Will be nice to get some FTE shouts soon, hopefully.

quido
11-01-2012, 03:37 AM
Though I personally think the random spawn aggro should count - it should require a hit or whatever.

quido
11-01-2012, 03:38 AM
Damn it, I'm retarded - I mean the random aggro upon spawn shouldn't count towards FTE. You should have to tag it.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 03:39 AM
Though I personally think the random spawn aggro should count - it should require a hit or whatever.

Yeah an actual 'engage' rather than an 'aggro' would force people to stay on their toes to a greater extent.

Eccezan
11-01-2012, 03:40 AM
TMO did between 1/4-1/3 the total damage on inny, FE did the rest.

FE tanked it between two tanks, with the first taking the DT.

TMO got FTE through a monk and a wizard who were on inny's hate list a second before Talenos. This was through closer proximity to the spawn.

TMO got a legitimate FTE based on how it is currently defined. They did not wipe and kite it around - they stayed engaged with what they had while FE killed it thinking they had FTE.

I really fail to see wtf the issue is here other than the mounds of sand in Alarti's vagina.

So how do you respond to the accusation that Raymor (Forceful Entry, Shadow Knight) blatantly and repeatedly flopped and reflopped to stall and attempt to snipe FTE on Venril Sathir for several minutes before that log? While it seems like a good strategy when you dont have sufficient members in zone to kill, this is blatant raid interference when there is a full raid ready to kill the mob. This is what raymor did for 4-5 minutes before your little FTE log. Please explain Tanthallas?

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 03:51 AM
1. You are talking about VS - these are logs on Inny. Learn to read before asking me to explain shit next time.

2. As for VS and Raymor FDing to 'stall' - post the fraps so we can all see how blatant this is.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 03:53 AM
People will see on the fraps that he FDed like 4 times NOT repeatedly for 4 fucking minutes. Words seem to be getting the best of you guys lately.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 03:58 AM
While it seems like a good strategy when you dont have sufficient members in zone to kill, this is blatant raid interference when there is a full raid ready to kill the mob.

A+

Shinko
11-01-2012, 04:05 AM
Will be nice to get some FTE shouts soon, hopefully.

they all going to call shinko

Jacquouille
11-01-2012, 04:07 AM
Jesus christ if I were in a guild whose "mains and alts are 100%" geared i'd stop caring so much and be such cry babies.

No life smelly cunts yall TmO :D

Eccezan
11-01-2012, 04:09 AM
Jesus christ if I were in a guild whose "mains and alts are 100%" geared i'd stop caring so much and be such cry babies.

No life smelly cunts yall TmO :D

˅˅˅˅˅˅˅˅˅˅˅˅˅˅˅˅

quido
11-01-2012, 04:13 AM
Visceral, you should always have in the back of your head the thought "I am really stupid so maybe I'm failing to detect sarcasm here and maybe I should be apprehensive to respond as my first inclination dictates."

My main still needs gear.

Fistn
11-01-2012, 04:27 AM
FISTN TIME!!!! yo listen TMO yo ass is about to be missin/ you know hwos gunna find you? no old man fishin/ you should quit the games/ before FE blows up and you burst into flames/ you can talk all this smack/ but is VP really that hard with 60 ppl from TMO in zone or is it just wack?/ try to get more FTE loots/ pretty soon you will be licking our boots/ beggings for scraps/ yea this is a little fistn putting you to wraps/ dont be crying because im not lying when i say you'll be dying while we stay flying/ now get your pathetic guild in shape/ because god damn you've been gettin the rape/ you say you gunna start poopin/ well good thing because fistns on the duty of scoopin/ clean yo shit out the backyard / because when FE comes we play hard....FISTN TIMEEEE!!!!

Eccezan
11-01-2012, 04:34 AM
FISTN TIME!!!! yo listen TMO yo ass is about to be missin/ you know hwos gunna find you? no old man fishin/ you should quit the games/ before FE blows up and you burst into flames/ you can talk all this smack/ but is VP really that hard with 60 ppl from TMO in zone or is it just wack?/ try to get more FTE loots/ pretty soon you will be licking our boots/ beggings for scraps/ yea this is a little fistn putting you to wraps/ dont be crying because im not lying when i say you'll be dying while we stay flying/ now get your pathetic guild in shape/ because god damn you've been gettin the rape/ you say you gunna start poopin/ well good thing because fistns on the duty of scoopin/ clean yo shit out the backyard / because when FE comes we play hard....FISTN TIMEEEE!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/i4HhY.gif

Nerosys
11-01-2012, 04:37 AM
So how do you respond to the accusation that Raymor (Forceful Entry, Shadow Knight) blatantly and repeatedly flopped and reflopped to stall and attempt to snipe FTE on Venril Sathir for several minutes before that log? While it seems like a good strategy when you dont have sufficient members in zone to kill, this is blatant raid interference when there is a full raid ready to kill the mob. This is what raymor did for 4-5 minutes before your little FTE log. Please explain Tanthallas?

Nobody is buying your shit today Son, go somewhere else with your tears.

Jacquouille
11-01-2012, 04:37 AM
Being called stupid/retarded/cretin by any of you clowns is indeed sarcastic pal.

I'd be curious to know what else but a

Jacquouille
11-01-2012, 04:38 AM
PD crown or maybe a PoS piece you still need.

Autotune
11-01-2012, 04:44 AM
FISTN TIME!!!! yo listen TMO yo ass is about to be missin/ you know hwos gunna find you? no old man fishin/ you should quit the games/ before FE blows up and you burst into flames/ you can talk all this smack/ but is VP really that hard with 60 ppl from TMO in zone or is it just wack?/ try to get more FTE loots/ pretty soon you will be licking our boots/ beggings for scraps/ yea this is a little fistn putting you to wraps/ dont be crying because im not lying when i say you'll be dying while we stay flying/ now get your pathetic guild in shape/ because god damn you've been gettin the rape/ you say you gunna start poopin/ well good thing because fistns on the duty of scoopin/ clean yo shit out the backyard / because when FE comes we play hard....FISTN TIMEEEE!!!!

I hope DMX comes to your house and shoots you in the fuckin face.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 04:45 AM
Rap battle for loot rights imo

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 04:46 AM
http://i.imgur.com/i4HhY.gif

A-

Sunnyvale
11-01-2012, 05:00 AM
FISTN TIME!!!! yo listen TMO yo ass is about to be missin/ you know hwos gunna find you? no old man fishin/ you should quit the games/ before FE blows up and you burst into flames/ you can talk all this smack/ but is VP really that hard with 60 ppl from TMO in zone or is it just wack?/ try to get more FTE loots/ pretty soon you will be licking our boots/ beggings for scraps/ yea this is a little fistn putting you to wraps/ dont be crying because im not lying when i say you'll be dying while we stay flying/ now get your pathetic guild in shape/ because god damn you've been gettin the rape/ you say you gunna start poopin/ well good thing because fistns on the duty of scoopin/ clean yo shit out the backyard / because when FE comes we play hard....FISTN TIMEEEE!!!!

Reminded me of this: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ad5_1336210276

quido
11-01-2012, 05:50 AM
I need a Shroud of Veeshan someday and a Dragon Hero Bracer, maybe a Left Eye of Xygoz. And nobody's alt in our guild intentionally has good PD loot.

Hurley
11-01-2012, 06:59 AM
Alarti and Eccezan strait up bitch status after 1 week of raiding.

arsenalpow
11-01-2012, 07:47 AM
So Sirken had to manually hand us our guises after we downed Inny because you children wouldn't get off the corpse. Can't we all just get along?

Nerosys
11-01-2012, 07:56 AM
So Sirken had to manually hand us our guises after we downed Inny because you children wouldn't get off the corpse. Can't we all just get along?

You're kidding right?

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 07:59 AM
Inny wasn't trained onto a raid force that wasn't yours now, was he?

quido
11-01-2012, 08:17 AM
It's so much nicer to KS mobs, award the quest pieces, and complete them immediately to deter the GMs from taking them back from you - essentially create a headache.

Thanks BDA

Jacquouille
11-01-2012, 08:17 AM
So Sirken had to manually hand us our guises after we downed Inny because you children wouldn't get off the corpse. Can't we all just get along?

80% of TMO are good people, their core and leader are nazis though, so no, you won't get along with them. Because that remaining 20% pulls the strings.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 08:24 AM
From the fucking logs Sirken sent me?

post em!

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 08:26 AM
Jesus christ if I were in a guild whose "mains and alts are 100%" geared i'd stop caring so much and be such cry babies.

No life smelly cunts yall TmO :D

Come back and join FE so when you post you dont look like a no-life troll who even though he quit he still hangs out on these forums

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 08:27 AM
People will see on the fraps that he FDed like 4 times NOT repeatedly for 4 fucking minutes. Words seem to be getting the best of you guys lately.

4 times isnt repetition? You could't train and fd 4 times over 4 mins?

Ya seems you need to work on those words~

Jacquouille
11-01-2012, 08:34 AM
a no-life troll

Coming from you, this is just too funny :D

Nerosys
11-01-2012, 08:34 AM
4 times isnt repetition? You could't train and fd 4 times over 4 mins?

Ya seems you need to work on those words~

http://i.imgur.com/HjF63.gif

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 08:45 AM
Come back and join FE so when you post you dont look like a no-life troll who even though he quit he still hangs out on these forums

Are you fucking high?

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 08:47 AM
Coming from you, this is just too funny :D

You do realize what you are, right? Here is the difference between you and I. I might argue on a forum for a game that I actively participate in. Ill argue about situation in game and dumb comments people say.

You come on a forum for a game you haven't played in a long time, and talk shit about one entity. So not only are you a troll, but you seem to have some kind of obsession. The no-life is inherent in your coming here hourly to read this forum for a game you dont play. The troll is defined below.


In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 08:47 AM
4 times isnt repetition? You could't train and fd 4 times over 4 mins?

Ya seems you need to work on those words~

In reference to this. Visceral is welcome to hang out anytime.

Fistn
11-01-2012, 08:51 AM
Tanthallas shut up you don't play this game TROLL. Get em Alarti! you words are as bliss as gods voice in my heart!

Jacquouille
11-01-2012, 08:51 AM
You do realize what you are, right? Here is the difference between you and I. I might argue on a forum for a game that I actively participate in. Ill argue about situation in game and dumb comments people say.

You come on a forum for a game you haven't played in a long time, and talk shit about one entity. So not only are you a troll, but you seem to have some kind of obsession. The no-life is inherent in your coming here hourly to read this forum for a game you dont play. The troll is defined below.


In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response

I just stole 2 mins of your life you will never get back :]

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 08:53 AM
4 times isnt repetition? You could't train and fd 4 times over 4 mins?

Ya seems you need to work on those words~

An SK could indeed do many things Alarti. You are correct. But what this particular SK did in this particular fraps has nothing the fuck at all to do with what you are saying.

Please, just go outside.

arsenalpow
11-01-2012, 08:59 AM
What are we even talking about? I'm talking about Inny. Clean pull and we easily had enough at zone in to kill him.

VS was a total shitstorm that I was admittedly late to, I'd just prefer the FD shenanigans to cease. It's getting old (admittedly it was already old, now it's borderline ridiculous)

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 09:02 AM
I just stole 2 mins of your life you will never get back :]

Well you lose to my mouse.. its fucking up and stole 5 mins of my life. Why can't you beat an inanimate object?

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 09:02 AM
Then why did you bring Inny to the zone in and train the other raids there?

And why did the FE raid kill him once that happened?

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 09:02 AM
An SK could indeed do many things Alarti. You are correct. But what this particular SK did in this particular fraps has nothing the fuck at all to do with what you are saying.

Please, just go outside.

Post fraps/logs! Come on kid get with the protocol

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 09:05 AM
Put a helmet on before you get hurt.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 09:07 AM
Put a helmet on before you get hurt.

When a request for evidence comes you respond with vitriol. What do you have to hide. Post the fraps or logs.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 09:08 AM
You guys have perfected this, haven't you.

Unfortunately, we will be taking your pixels regardless of how well you troll on RnF.

arsenalpow
11-01-2012, 09:08 AM
Then why did you bring Inny to the zone in and train the other raids there?

And why did the FE raid kill him once that happened?

Are you being serious right now? Our raid was at the entrance too and more were porting up, your raid force didn't have to help chop him down and it was our pull. I don't think you even had a puller in zone when I took the DT and Fatty brought him in. I feel like you're just blatantly trolling me lol.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 09:13 AM
You guys have perfected this, haven't you.

Unfortunately, we will be taking your pixels regardless of how well you troll on RnF.

Haha post those fraps/logs or Ill find them and do it. Ask Xerxes, you won't like it if I have to expose the truth.

Nerosys
11-01-2012, 09:13 AM
Are you being serious right now? Our raid was at the entrance too and more were porting up, your raid force didn't have to help chop him down and it was our pull. I don't think you even had a puller in zone when I took the DT and Fatty brought him in. I feel like you're just blatantly trolling me lol.

So you admit to pulling innoruk to zone in.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 09:15 AM
So you admit to pulling innoruk to zone in.

Aww you are cute. You seem to think we are still playing by Bisch/Ambrotos' raid rules.

Nerosys
11-01-2012, 09:21 AM
Aww you are cute. You seem to think we are still playing by Bisch/Ambrotos' raid rules.

nope just referring to the train they brought with them but its cool ill let you catch up you're a little slow this morning

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 09:25 AM
nope just referring to the train they brought with them but its cool ill let you catch up you're a little slow this morning

You are right I must be slow

So you admit to pulling innoruuk to zone

Obviously, has the word train or alludes to training.


Lol idiot

arsenalpow
11-01-2012, 09:26 AM
nope just referring to the train they brought with them but its cool ill let you catch up you're a little slow this morning

What train?? I died on chest to the DT, camped, switched to my wizard, ported up and still managed to empty my bar before he died, there were little to no adds at the zone in. I don't think we're even talking about the same game.

quido
11-01-2012, 09:28 AM
More BDA spin - you guys are scum!!

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 09:29 AM
I just spoke to Ephi and he entered our guildchat after. His response is this - it wasnt a 'normal' encounter so the 'training to zone in' rules did not apply. Apparently, FTE still did even though it was not a normal encounter and those are normal encounter rules. So we have a rule-set that allows for FTE with training....wonderful. Enjoy the stuff.

Remember, you cannot do what you just did on a normal encounter.

arsenalpow
11-01-2012, 09:34 AM
I just spoke to Ephi and he entered our guildchat after. His response is this - it wasnt a 'normal' encounter so the 'training to zone in' rules did not apply. Apparently, FTE still did even though it was not a normal encounter and those are normal encounter rules. So we have a rule-set that allows for FTE with training....wonderful. Enjoy the stuff.

Remember, you cannot do what you just did on a normal encounter.

Show me logs of that because I don't believe you. The only standing raid rule is the VS clause. After that FTE is the rule. I think Ephi is operating under an incorrect assumption that the rules Ambrotos enacted about Hate/Fear are still operational, and if that were the case go ahead and ban Arconis for kiting fear last night or Fauss the hundreds of times he's done the same.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 09:34 AM
I just spoke to Ephi and he entered our guildchat after. His response is this - it wasnt a 'normal' encounter so the 'training to zone in' rules did not apply. Apparently, FTE still did even though it was not a normal encounter and those are normal encounter rules. So we have a rule-set that allows for FTE with training....wonderful. Enjoy the stuff.

Remember, you cannot do what you just did on a normal encounter.

Derp you get VS in the same situation during a normal encounter and you cheer. You have the same situation at Inny during a "non" normal encounter and bitch.

/boggle

arsenalpow
11-01-2012, 09:39 AM
Derp you get VS in the same situation during a normal encounter and you cheer. You have the same situation at Inny during a "non" normal encounter and bitch.

/boggle

The two situations aren't even comparable! It's not even the same ballpark, they aren't even the same fucking sport.

VS - people socking his room, he spawns, clusterfuck happens

Inny - solo pull to zone in (at most two adds already in camp being CCed) for a waiting raid force

Just try to walk me through your side of the story.

Harazzer
11-01-2012, 09:39 AM
What are we even talking about? I'm talking about Inny. Clean pull and we easily had enough at zone in to kill him.

VS was a total shitstorm that I was admittedly late to, I'd just prefer the FD shenanigans to cease. It's getting old (admittedly it was already old, now it's borderline ridiculous)

Clean he says... I haven't seen the logs but you pulled him (past tmo? idk wasnt up top) down to the zone where he proceeded to annihilate the bda there. One of our tanks zugsmash picked him up, tanked until DT, fatty got him tanked until dead from no heals (about 10 seconds), then chowda tanked until he died. Our group of 3 warriors, wiz, 2 clerics got exp with 1 warrior dead. The issue is that you basically trained a raid mob, wiped, and when the people you trained finished the job for you, you took the loot from it based on FTE when you utterly failed to kill it.

You tried the same on VS but failed over a longer time and it was considered raid stalling, only difference.

Jarnauga
11-01-2012, 09:39 AM
Tanthallas, stop being an asshole, you're not in TMO, remember ?

On VS, everybody was chain killed and nobody wanted to actually kill him because nobody knew who had FTE and didnt want to kill it for the other guild.. You just decided to kill it knowing you might not get the loot, period. And yes, the ruling is surprising to say the least.. Sirken told me once that FTE was not the most fair rule but it was the only thing they could actually check.. That said, grats, i prefer the loot going to you than to TMO bought alt 247.

On inny, lol ? Chest and Fatty pulled inny with some ghasts and liches that were handled, that's your "train" ..? And yeah we got FTE on inny but you decided to KS the kill and ninja loot.. great idea for a kill that's supposed to be fun times during halloween. I wish i knew who actually looted that inny after sirken told us it was ours..

Oh btw, i definitely saw a train in hate from Chief, but you all will have to believe me <3

Jarnauga
11-01-2012, 09:42 AM
we never wiped to inny.. fatty and sadad tanked him until the end.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 09:42 AM
The two situations aren't even comparable! It's not even the same ballpark, they aren't even the same fucking sport.

VS - people socking his room, he spawns, clusterfuck happens

Inny - solo pull to zone in (at most two adds already in camp being CCed) for a waiting raid force

Just try to walk me through your side of the story.

I have no side of the story. Stop derping. I was responding to Tanth's reasoning not to his facts.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 09:42 AM
I will ignore the retard above as usual.

Chest - FTE is not the end all be all rule. You cannot, for example, get FTE and train a mob onto another raid wherein they either have to die or fight. That is the situation we are dealing with here. The only reason it is a non-issue is because the GM's are considering this to not be a 'normal' encounter due to their claim that Inny was going to aggro the zone in regardless of who pulled it, so it would have been a train on the zone in anyway.

It should be obvious that having a situation where FTE holds for a particular guild while claiming that the mob was always headed to the zone in where ALL THE RAID FORCES OF DIFFERENT GUILDS WERE is completely contradictory.

Ephi
11-01-2012, 09:43 AM
I'm posting in here once and once only, to set the record straight about last night.

It was not a normal encounter. Some rules applied. Others did not. No guilds were made aware of how we were going to rule before we did. Fair? Yes. Allow you to strategize? No.

Inny was spawned at a different location. While this was actually further back in the room from his normal spawn point, he was actually aggroing the zone-in from his spawn point, along with the drakes we spawned. Full Circle were the first to feel his wrath at the zone-in. Then BDA ported up and received some of the same aggro. Then TMO, then FE. Staff was watching the entire event.

Staff awarded the kill to who we thought fairly engaged Inny as he was running around, resetting, being generally crazy. It was our decision.

Blame us if you feel you were mistreated. But remember: this was a GM event. This was not a normal raid encounter.

There will be more events in the future, perhaps like this, perhaps not. It is our discretion to set the event as we please, and we feel it went very well, despite the reaction of some.

Again, sorry if you feel robbed of loot or mistreated. I can assure that's not the case. There will be other opportunities in the future.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 09:45 AM
Tanthallas, stop being an asshole, you're not in TMO, remember ? <3

Remember, you petitioned us for FTE first in a scenario where we fully killed the mob. I am just returning the favor.

Its not about you, its about how the rules changed without anyone knowing Jarn. If this event was meant to be a shit-show, then all the guilds subject to it should have had a equal reward.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 09:46 AM
Tanthallas, stop being an asshole, you're not in TMO, remember ?

On VS, everybody was chain killed and nobody wanted to actually kill him because nobody knew who had FTE and didnt want to kill it for the other guild.. You just decided to kill it knowing you might not get the loot, period. And yes, the ruling is surprising to say the least.. Sirken told me once that FTE was not the most fair rule but it was the only thing they could actually check.. That said, grats, i prefer the loot going to you than to TMO bought alt 247.

On inny, lol ? Chest and Fatty pulled inny with some ghasts and liches that were handled, that's your "train" ..? And yeah we got FTE on inny but you decided to KS the kill and ninja loot.. great idea for a kill that's supposed to be fun times during halloween. I wish i knew who actually looted that inny after sirken told us it was ours..

Oh btw, i definitely saw a train in hate from Chief, but you all will have to believe me <3

BDA has a large quantity of assholes. Alot of them left to FE, but they still have you, chest, anthrax, and that new ogre warrior officer who I cant seem to ever remember.

Oh btw I definitely saw a train in hate from Jarnauga, but you all will have to believe me.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 09:46 AM
Again, sorry if you feel robbed of loot or mistreated. I can assure that's not the case. There will be other opportunities in the future.

That works. We can end it here and look forward to what happens next time.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 09:47 AM
I will ignore the retard above as usual.

Chest - FTE is not the end all be all rule. You cannot, for example, get FTE and train a mob onto another raid wherein they either have to die or fight. That is the situation we are dealing with here. The only reason it is a non-issue is because the GM's are considering this to not be a 'normal' encounter due to their claim that Inny was going to aggro the zone in regardless of who pulled it, so it would have been a train on the zone in anyway.

It should be obvious that having a situation where FTE holds for a particular guild while claiming that the mob was always headed to the zone in where ALL THE RAID FORCES OF DIFFERENT GUILDS WERE is completely contradictory.

Why you have so much in the past. Just admit you wont post fraps/logs because it demonstrates your guilt.

arsenalpow
11-01-2012, 09:50 AM
Are you high? We pulled it to our waiting raid force and your group decided to help chop it down. Specifically our raid force that was there first with a pull inc as you ported up. There was some mobs aggroing at the well area, I saw some invis TMO hanging around, I tagged for the DT and Fatty brought in a solo Inny. Fatty Sadad and Hellfire all tanked him at multiple points in the fight.

I saw chowda beating on him too which he was under no obligation to do. Put down the pipe and finish your sour grapes and check our sweet guises

http://i.imgur.com/1Za0H.png

Jarnauga
11-01-2012, 09:55 AM
Oh btw I definitely saw a train in hate from Jarnauga, but you all will have to believe me.

I actually got a train in hate (i was in the vanguard !) of drakes on me, but i died in maestro house because you know, im not an asshole :p

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 09:56 AM
Chest, even the GMs - all of which were there and watching - are saying that under normal raid rules the ruling would be quite different. Their explanation of the results is that it was not a normal event and hence PULLING TO THE FUCKING ZONE ON EVERYONE WAS OK.

Get rid of your ego and enjoy the guises.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 09:56 AM
im not an asshole :p

Concur.

Jacquouille
11-01-2012, 10:00 AM
Inny drops guises ?

Autotune
11-01-2012, 10:00 AM
I'm posting in here once and once only, to set the record straight about last night.

It was not a normal encounter. Some rules applied. Others did not. No guilds were made aware of how we were going to rule before we did. Fair? Yes. Allow you to strategize? No.

Inny was spawned at a different location. While this was actually further back in the room from his normal spawn point, he was actually aggroing the zone-in from his spawn point, along with the drakes we spawned. Full Circle were the first to feel his wrath at the zone-in. Then BDA ported up and received some of the same aggro. Then TMO, then FE. Staff was watching the entire event.

Staff awarded the kill to who we thought fairly engaged Inny as he was running around, resetting, being generally crazy. It was our decision.

Blame us if you feel you were mistreated. But remember: this was a GM event. This was not a normal raid encounter.

There will be more events in the future, perhaps like this, perhaps not. It is our discretion to set the event as we please, and we feel it went very well, despite the reaction of some.

Again, sorry if you feel robbed of loot or mistreated. I can assure that's not the case. There will be other opportunities in the future.

Awarded based on FTE... lol....

Jacquouille
11-01-2012, 10:01 AM
Oh GM event, cool!

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 10:02 AM
Inny drops guises ?

Oh GM event, cool!

Welcome to the party :P

Strifer
11-01-2012, 10:10 AM
Welcome to the party :P
thanks bro
http://i.imgur.com/Vvyiw.jpg

arsenalpow
11-01-2012, 10:15 AM
No where in that post did Ephi say his ruling would have been different, he said the event itself was a special set of circumstances. We have no egos about the encounter, I'm just trying to understand how you could possibly think you are entitled to that kill.

arsenalpow
11-01-2012, 10:19 AM
Awarded based on FTE... lol....

He was halfway down the ramp and walking back to his lair when I took the DT and Fatty brought him into our awaiting raid where a few groups of TMO and one group of FE were also waiting. I can't see how anything was done unlawfully.

Thana8088
11-01-2012, 10:25 AM
FFS y'all, it's just pixels; which no-one is supposed to want, right?

Here, have some puppy and smile:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRrczt31hZZbrYOng1Xw59j5tY2IzO7-KQ-NXMI19rT8frhXY_Q

radditsu
11-01-2012, 10:27 AM
He was halfway down the ramp and walking back to his lair when I took the DT and Fatty brought him into our awaiting raid where a few groups of TMO and one group of FE were also waiting. I can't see how anything was done unlawfully.

Dont mind him, he's just sad about his old guild being forcefully entered.

chief
11-01-2012, 10:27 AM
Can you people just enjoy the event and put your egos a side for one day? That event was fun. Also thanks for putting guises on random mobs in lguk, I managed to get 2 for my cleric and warrior. Thanks p99 staff

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 10:31 AM
Let me break it down very simply for you.

1. Training the zone in is not possible because he automatically engages and runs toward the raid forces at the zone in.

2. FTE means someone (or guild) is the FIRST TO ENGAGE.

3. How do you physically (or digitally I guess) engage it first if it is already engaged on a random person from a random guild at the zone in?

Now...given that he was en route to the zone in and hence already aggroed on someone or everyone (?), loot cannot be awarded based on FTE in the traditional sense. But this is exactly what happened.

If this was indeed a 'community' event wherein the rules which are made for the 'normal' events by definition do not apply, the loot rules should have been 'communal' and not 'normal' as well. The 'community' should have been rewarded and not one guild.

But I understand that you dont understand. Thats why Forceful Entry exists.

Lanuven
11-01-2012, 10:32 AM
http://i.imgur.com/1Za0H.png

Damn ! Im not in the picture =(

radditsu
11-01-2012, 10:37 AM
Let me break it down very simply for you.

1. Training the zone in is not possible because he automatically engages and runs toward the raid forces at the zone in.

2. FTE means someone (or guild) is the FIRST TO ENGAGE.

3. How do you physically (or digitally I guess) engage it first if it is already engaged on a random person from a random guild at the zone in?

Now...given that he was en route to the zone in and hence already aggroed on someone or everyone (?), loot cannot be awarded based on FTE in the traditional sense. But this is exactly what happened.

If this was indeed a 'community' event wherein the rules which are made for the 'normal' events by definition do not apply, the loot rules should have been 'communal' and not 'normal' as well. The 'community' should have been rewarded and not one guild.

But I understand that you dont understand. Thats why Forceful Entry exists.


I think chest is saying that it had disengaged and he tagged it died, and that fat bastard fatty got it down to the zergatron 3 guild clusterfuck at the zone in. I wasnt there unfortunately or it would have been a different outcome of course.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 10:37 AM
Can you people just enjoy the event and put your egos a side for one day? That event was fun. Also thanks for putting guises on random mobs in lguk, I managed to get 2 for my cleric and warrior. Thanks p99 staff

Oh I do agree, but...

Killing trak is fun too, you should give me the teeth.

radditsu
11-01-2012, 10:45 AM
Oh I do agree, but...

Killing trak is fun too, you should give me the teeth.

Join the forceful entry. Earn dkp. And buy it. Join bda and get it awarded and not able to use it because they do not train in vp. Or join tmo and hahahahahahahahahahha.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 10:52 AM
I actually got a train in hate (i was in the vanguard !) of drakes on me, but i died in maestro house because you know, im not an asshole :p

.... I didn't see your train was just making fun of your claim, derp.

Versus
11-01-2012, 10:53 AM
It was not a normal encounter. Some rules applied. Others did not.


http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/LOL_1b3158_1048126.gif

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 10:55 AM
Join the forceful entry. Earn dkp. And buy it. Join bda and get it awarded and not able to use it because they do not train in vp. Or join tmo and hahahahahahahahahahha.

Sorry tmo is full and are only recruiting exceptionally skilled people. Ask your roster:( since half of them were rejected.

Tanthallas
11-01-2012, 10:58 AM
You were the first person rejected from FE, unfortunately

radditsu
11-01-2012, 11:02 AM
Sorry tmo is full.

A) full of it
B) with zerg amounts of people already.
C) of fat doublechinned neckbeareded george lucas dudes.

Pick one of those for the ftfy quote.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 11:09 AM
You were the first person rejected from FE, unfortunately

Prove it post my app in its entirety.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 11:11 AM
A) full of it
B) with zerg amounts of people already.
C) of fat doublechinned neckbeareded george lucas dudes.

Pick one of those for the ftfy quote.

LOL that post was really terrible. I'll pretend it never happened and let you try again to save face.

radditsu
11-01-2012, 11:12 AM
Prove it post my app in its entirety.

You sure? Its got ip info and such. But i guess if you really work in IT that wouldn't be a problem for you.

radditsu
11-01-2012, 11:18 AM
LOL that post was really terrible. I'll pretend it never happened and let you try again to save face.

Im sorry. Neckbearded george lucas dudes.

Alarti0001
11-01-2012, 11:18 AM
You sure? Its got ip info and such. But i guess if you really work in IT that wouldn't be a problem for you.

Heh post my app within forum rules of course! Wouldn't want my anonymizer ip to get ddos'd

hatelore
11-01-2012, 11:30 AM
Dont mind him, he's just sad about his old guild being forcefully entered.

I find it sad, that you speak like that about someone you used to be guilded with and someone you used to call friend and family. Ecce, I saw you post a pic in a previous thread about a big bag of dicks. Hook tanrin up with some of them please.

Nirgon
11-01-2012, 11:30 AM
Sounds like FE is doing what they said they were gonna do.

Challenge you on FTEs and kill mobs.

Lexical
11-01-2012, 11:31 AM
Heh post my app within forum rules of course! Wouldn't want my anonymizer ip to get ddos'd

I thought p99 blocked most mainstream proxy IPs?

Jacquouille
11-01-2012, 11:38 AM
Sounds like FE is doing what they said they were gonna do.

Challenge you on FTEs and kill mobs.

Yah, Alarti mad.

radditsu
11-01-2012, 11:41 AM
I find it sad, that you speak like that about someone you used to be guilded with and someone you used to call friend and family. Ecce, I saw you post a pic in a previous thread about a big bag of dicks. Hook tanrin up with some of them please.

Autotunes old guild. Not chest. Chest could be a pipe laying mother if he would shed the whole casual angle and just have his guild go for it. He leads raids well. Could have more bard pull practice and a heavier hand when it comes to getting the 800 cats herded. And ya know, listening to his experienced members.
I didnt leave because of chest or sadad or anything like that. I left because i got sick of buffing level 46 druids all night then losing fte because we needed to be agressive instead of passive. I got no ill will to bda dawg.

radditsu
11-01-2012, 11:41 AM
Sounds like FE is doing what they said they were gonna do.

Challenge you on FTEs and kill mobs.

Nirgons feelin me bro.