Shitty players make shitty guilds

[Tarathiel]

shitty people make shitty players

[MooseTX82]

Leveled as a wood elf druid in Velious on Sullon Zek. Leader board the entire time I played there and for months afterward. Whatcha gotta, wannabe?

Gloves just came off and Slip went silent.

[Horrible]

I didn't make it in 'cause I was bad as a monk, whilst TR had just the most exceptional pull team that p99 ever witnessed, people like Kinsawt, Perun, kalrei, they were like a little sect hanging out in their own vent lol.

I made it in as a necro as playing a necro is just retarded in raid, unless you want to do things such as pulling 2nd PoH floor to 1st floor and run on the roofs to kite the whole plane whilst you pull inny, that's when necros became interesting, also island pulling in PoA. I really appreciated the fact that despite my app being denied, the guild gave me a chance and trystych took the time to learn me tricks n strats. I loved this atmosphere of "try to get the best outta your class", that was Perun/Kins motos.

Apping to TR/IB as monk, enc or sk was touchy, rest was just ok.

except they used SEQ / weren't very good. I would argue Dark Ascension's pull team was better when Ledzepp/Sochin still played, and TR/IB had to get GM's to raid suspend DA because they couldn't compete with FTE ruling. Until Uthgaard got involved and quit because Rogean refused to do anything about his good buddy / developer Xzerion that led IB and had Rogean on speed dial.

But ... good try.

[BigSlip]

Gloves just came off and Slip went silent.

Im way too intimidated to post here anymore now.

[Alawen]

except they used SEQ / weren't very good. I would argue Dark Ascension's pull team was better when Ledzepp/Sochin still played, and TR/IB had to get GM's to raid suspend DA because they couldn't compete with FTE ruling. Until Uthgaard got involved and quit because Rogean refused to do anything about his good buddy / developer Xzerion that led IB and had Rogean on speed dial.

But ... good try.

I completely agree with you there. Sochin and Ledzepp were outstanding. They're a definite part of the reason DA pulled ahead of IB in that era. Another reason was that DA had a shitload of clerics, and quite a few were rock solid. Check this out:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/Alawen/DAclerics.jpg

[Alawen]

Im way too intimidated to post here anymore now.

Ha! I laughed. Well played, sir.

[BigSlip]

wasnt lorelae a massive bitch ? im having trouble remembering exactly who that was.

iirc jamfalcon and a few others i dont remember were grouped w me talking shit about her. i thought they were kidding. i said in guildchat hey lorelae these guys are talking mad shit about you.. and they started sending me tells like FUCK MAN dont tell her!

lol then it hit me she was a huge bitch and i loled

[Alawen]

wasnt lorelae a massive bitch ? im having trouble remembering exactly who that was.

iirc jamfalcon and a few others i dont remember were grouped w me talking shit about her. i thought they were kidding. i said in guildchat hey lorelae these guys are talking mad shit about you.. and they started sending me tells like FUCK MAN dont tell her!

lol then it hit me she was a huge bitch and i loled

I honestly have no idea. I wasn't in DA very long. We killed some shit in sky and then that officer got busted for SEQ and I quit the guild and quit playing for a long time. Everyone seemed generally pretty cool to me. That one Aussie officer was a total hardass but it didn't affect me at all.

[Dagner]

I honestly have no idea. I wasn't in DA very long. We killed some shit in sky and then that officer got busted for SEQ and I quit the guild and quit playing for a long time. Everyone seemed generally pretty cool to me. That one Aussie officer was a total hardass but it didn't affect me at all.

koota and skankie are the names you're looking for

[Heebee]

wasnt lorelae a massive bitch ? im having trouble remembering exactly who that was.

iirc jamfalcon and a few others i dont remember were grouped w me talking shit about her. i thought they were kidding. i said in guildchat hey lorelae these guys are talking mad shit about you.. and they started sending me tells like FUCK MAN dont tell her!

lol then it hit me she was a huge bitch and i loled

You might be thinking of Aurelia (Caleena in Alawen's screenie). She was a massive bitch.

[BigSlip]

ah hah yeah thats it

[Zereh]

wasnt lorelae a massive bitch ?

Confirmed.

[Atennu]

I miss Karadin. IB's best rogue, maybe entire entire server. He taught me so much, like how to actually hate a person over pixels. TY Karadin, p99's first and only player asked to log off in PoSky when #s are already low. You will not be forgotten

[Loke]

except they used SEQ / weren't very good. I would argue Dark Ascension's pull team was better when Ledzepp/Sochin still played, and TR/IB had to get GM's to raid suspend DA because they couldn't compete with FTE ruling. Until Uthgaard got involved and quit because Rogean refused to do anything about his good buddy / developer Xzerion that led IB and had Rogean on speed dial.

But ... good try.

I'd be pretty surprised if none of DAs monks from that period were using SEQ. As someone who got busted for it, and played against those monks, it is pretty easy to tell if someone is using SEQ if you are as well. The biggest advantage SEQ offers imo is being able to see mobs without having to maintain LoS, for example, when mobs reset at their bind point. If you have SEQ you can see when someone else is pulling and what they are able to see, and how they respond to mobs. I was given SEQ by someone in DA as a response to thinking Tullian was using it (which he was), so them knowing I had it after I left for IB makes me think the same thing would occur in my absence.

I obviously don't have anything to back this up, but it was pretty obvious every pull team had someone using SEQ in the post-sky/pre-Kunark era. Even if the monk wasn't using it themselves, having someone in a private bind telling them when shit reset or where it was pathing was a huge advantage. Both guilds had players suspended for it, so for anyone to pretend they didn't benefit from cheating here is pretty laughable. Even the great monks from the early days like Emil got a huge benefit from someone like Tullian using it even if he wasn't using it, or aware it was being used. Hell, I know players from both IB and DA that two-boxed as well. People can pretend they're above that stuff, but I think we've all seen how most of those people respond to the allure of getting more loot, and plus, everyone knows that snitches get stitches.

If we really want to get into who the best pull teams were on this server, I think you have to either talk WAY back in the day with people like Krimz, or post SEQ ban with people like Adriana. Anyone trying to claim "pull team A" was better than "pull team B" during the period leading up to sky (when SEQ was widely dispersed on this server to my knowledge) until the SEQ purge is working under the false assumption that not everyone was benefiting from SEQ in one way or another. Like I said, I got busted for using it, but as someone who used it, it was pretty obvious that both sides were using it.

As a disclaimer, I'm not saying that justifies using it. I cheated, I took my suspension and loss of plat (like 600k if I remember right) - I just think it is naive for people to pretend it wasn't being used on a large scale by numerous guilds when over 300 people got suspended at a time when the average server population day-to-day was less than double that.

[Loke]

Just wanna add that knowing Alawen, he is one of a select few individuals I met on this server that I sincerely think would have turned a guild mate in for using SEQ. I know I was kind of broad generalizing everyone with that whole "allure of loot" statement, but since he is posting here and I figure he might chime in, I thought I'd preemptively beat him to the punch and say that I absolutely think that he is the type of person who would have the integrity to turn someone in (unlike the vast majority of individuals on this server). For that matter, so was Xzerion. I know the guy gets a lot of shit on these forums, mostly from people who probably never had a single conversation with the guy, but I have no doubt that he would have turned an IB member in for using SEQ had he known. Despite popular belief, he was a pretty hands off, and uninvolved guild leader in terms of raid leader, strategy, etc. I know everyone likes to pretend he was some shady mastermind, but for the most part he pretty much dealt with internal house-keeping type stuff.

[Atennu]

Krimz probably best puller this server has ever had, because he had no SEQ or SEQ help. IB used it, thats confirmed but it's whatever. DA used it, but it's whatever. Raiding with krimz in a 11 man group breaking POF was probably the most enjoyment I had on this server. I wish he wasn't such a scumbag and would of played longer. :'(

[Phats]

Krimz probably best puller this server has ever had, because he had no SEQ or SEQ help. IB used it, thats confirmed but it's whatever. DA used it, but it's whatever. Raiding with krimz in a 11 man group breaking POF was probably the most enjoyment I had on this server. I wish he wasn't such a scumbag and would of played longer. :'(

and tmo used it, but its whatever

[Atennu]

It is whatever, you're very poor player if you think any guild on this server hasn't had someone who was apart of leading a raid using SEQ.

[Loke]

Krimz probably best puller this server has ever had, because he had no SEQ or SEQ help. IB used it, thats confirmed but it's whatever. DA used it, but it's whatever. Raiding with krimz in a 11 man group breaking POF was probably the most enjoyment I had on this server. I wish he wasn't such a scumbag and would of played longer. :'(

+1, Krimz was also the best raid leader I've ever encountered on either P99 or Live. I still think IV as a whole was the best group of players I got to raid with on this server. They were too small to compete with the big guilds like Trans or IB, but there wasn't a single weak link in that entire guild.

[somnia]

THIS IS STILL GOING ON WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!

[Atennu]

He's on the sleeper server tried to get me to got there, i just dont have the time to play anymore. Bang Rab Krimz Rize and i think Seige all there. Was the founding core outside of me you and bossco

[Jacquouille]

They congregated in the SEQ channel eh

Just like you congregated in TMO's channel for two boxers :) ?

[Heebee]

Confirmed.

Stoner confirmed!

[Alawen]

Just wanna add that knowing Alawen, he is one of a select few individuals I met on this server that I sincerely think would have turned a guild mate in for using SEQ. I know I was kind of broad generalizing everyone with that whole "allure of loot" statement, but since he is posting here and I figure he might chime in, I thought I'd preemptively beat him to the punch and say that I absolutely think that he is the type of person who would have the integrity to turn someone in (unlike the vast majority of individuals on this server). For that matter, so was Xzerion. I know the guy gets a lot of shit on these forums, mostly from people who probably never had a single conversation with the guy, but I have no doubt that he would have turned an IB member in for using SEQ had he known. Despite popular belief, he was a pretty hands off, and uninvolved guild leader in terms of raid leader, strategy, etc. I know everyone likes to pretend he was some shady mastermind, but for the most part he pretty much dealt with internal house-keeping type stuff.

Thanks for saying so, Loke; I appreciate that. I've turned in a few people for boxing, but I honestly don't know the third party software well enough to be very sure when people are using it. It was interesting to read your explanation of monks watching things reset.

I was really disappointed when I played on VZTZ and I learned about /face and /stick and realized that people I thought were amazing on Sullon Zek were just cheating. I had my suspicions in DA when I'd volunteer to track and they'd turn me down. If there was SEQ in old school IB, it was kept quiet enough that I never had to deal with it. It was always the druid team and Jete tracking for IB. We had our own vent channel for trackers and we'd chase the officers out. It was surprisingly good times sitting in one spot spamming track hour after hour.

[liveitup1216]

I was really disappointed when I played on VZTZ and I learned about /face and /stick and realized that people I thought were amazing on Sullon Zek were just cheating.

I saw a DE wizard leveling in EC in the early/mid summer named Kirban and cringed.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

He's on the sleeper server tried to get me to got there, i just dont have the time to play anymore. Bang Rab Krimz Rize and i think Seige all there. Was the founding core outside of me you and bossco

I seem to remember PLing you fucks :p Krimz, Loke and Bossco especially.

Oh, also, Loke found me on planetside 2...man, that game is gonna bomb :|

[Diggles]

I seem to remember PLing you fucks :p Krimz, Loke and Bossco especially.

Oh, also, Loke found me on planetside 2...man, that game is gonna bomb :|

Its gonna bomb because loke is playing it

[bylbob]

I am ready to bet lots of peoples use SEQ still, virtual box or second comp and you are safe.

[Rogean]

I am ready to bet lots of peoples use SEQ still, virtual box or second comp and you are safe.

I'm willing to bet otherwise.

[Jacquouille]

Using SEQ on p99 would not only be totally retarded, it's also totally useless...

[Hasbinlulz]

Just wanna add that knowing Alawen, he is one of a select few individuals I met on this server that I sincerely think would have turned a guild mate in for using SEQ. I know I was kind of broad generalizing everyone with that whole "allure of loot" statement, but since he is posting here and I figure he might chime in, I thought I'd preemptively beat him to the punch and say that I absolutely think that he is the type of person who would have the integrity to turn someone in (unlike the vast majority of individuals on this server). For that matter, so was Xzerion. I know the guy gets a lot of shit on these forums, mostly from people who probably never had a single conversation with the guy, but I have no doubt that he would have turned an IB member in for using SEQ had he known. Despite popular belief, he was a pretty hands off, and uninvolved guild leader in terms of raid leader, strategy, etc. I know everyone likes to pretend he was some shady mastermind, but for the most part he pretty much dealt with internal house-keeping type stuff.
You'd better start adding my name to that list or I will turn you in IRL for you know what.

[bylbob]

I'm willing to bet otherwise.

Isn't SEQ just a packet sniffer? Then you can't detect it on a completly different computer. Unless you are sending encrypted packets then yes it becomes useless till you manage to crack the key.

[bylbob]

I think I know why you think that rogean, I am talking about ShowEQ wich read packets, not MySEQ wich read memory.

[bylbob]

And it was likely what everyone was using before the bans since it is the most recent one (MySEQ).

[Huggz]

Confirmed Pathetic Attempt to Make Life Feel Less Empty

[Nirgon]

Why don't you try running it and see? Let us know how it goes.

I'll put my money down on Rogean bro bans you on the next "ban wave".

[Ektar]

Give me a mistwalker or I will fight you irl

[Sodapop]

<a href="http://vimeo.com/25219629">Untitled</a>

[Hasbinlulz]

lulz soda i love you

[Hasbinlulz]

not really, you're a bloody cunt that nobody could love.

[Hasbinlulz]

#SodaForeverAlone

[Sodapop]

#forevernycbkbschwk

[Jacquouille]

lol at this random trak video

[kenzar]

Hey, I'm in that video!

[Diggles]

If sodapop was a candy i'd savor it instead of just eating it.

[Knuckle]

Stop splitting off and creating new guilds and jumping from one sinking ship to another.

Just come to terms that you suck and no matter what name you pick for your character or your guild, you will always suck.

The only collection of talented players are in TMO, the rest of the talented players are spread out to thinly and are happy with the guild tags they have.

Sorry shitty players, you should have joined TMO when you had the chance for loot or joined in riding the coat-tails of IB/TR before they left.

lol i like it

[Kassel]

Give me a mistwalker or I will fight you irl

I have one for your but i must assume you are in jail do to recent absence. How did you hack the rikers island payphone to post on teh webs?

[Diggles]

ektar was entertaining plebians

or something

i don't know i really just make this stuff up

[Sodapop]

ektar=http://news.yahoo.com/nyc-officer-arrested-ghoulish-kidnap-plot-152522278.html