EC Tunnel

[Lyssia]

So just a few minutes ago Cyrius says to the server, Next person to train EC tunnel is going to be banned or whatever.

*disclaimer* i was in Unrest at the time and am still there but.... Why are you people being hippocrits? You wanted a classic server with EC tunnel for trading? Then you need to deal with the rest of the EC tunnel issues namely the area being CONSTANTLY trained on live in classic days

[Phallax]

/agree

[L2Phantom]

Maybe because idiots are training it on purpose to try and grief the server into thinking removing global OOC was a bad idea? Derp derp?

[Elendae]

Maybe because idiots are training it on purpose to try and grief the server into thinking removing global OOC was a bad idea? Derp derp?

This. I doubt it will be as strictly enforced a few weeks down the line. It's a bit of a shitstorm at the moment.

[eqdruid76]

Maybe because idiots are training it on purpose to try and grief the server into thinking removing global OOC was a bad idea? Derp derp?

Bingo.

[Winston]

people play games

[Lyssia]

So what if there griefing folks in EC tunnel. That's exactly why they did it back in the day also, want the tunnel in all it's glory then accept the tunnel with all it's faults

[L2Phantom]

So what if there griefing folks in EC tunnel. That's exactly why they did it back in the day also, want the tunnel in all it's glory then accept the tunnel with all it's faults

That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Congratulations.

"I don't like the changes, so I'm going to make everyone's lives a living hell so I get my way!"

"Accept the way CLASSIC WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED SCRUBS!"

Riiiight.

[Winston]

pretty much as classic as you can get it. don't ask for classic if you wanted crispy

[Phallax]

Training happens. Training happened on live daily. Get use to it and stop your crying.

[L2Phantom]

Training happens. Training happened on live daily. Get use to it and stop your crying.

Training happens. Intentional training happens and has consequences. Get used to the fact that global ooc is gone for good.

[Desert]

What are people training? Level 8 mobs? KOS guards? Details please

Who cares about level 8 mobs, kill them. KOS Guards is a different story imo, intentional griefing happened on Live but GM's frowned upon it, how is this any different?

[Phallax]

Training happens. Intentional training happens and has consequences. Get used to the fact that global ooc is gone for good.

I dont care about the global. But its a known fact and history prooven when ever theres a large mass of population on pretty much any MMO people train it..

[Weekapaug]

Just to play devils advocate, Sergeant Slate will aggro some races/classes and the tunnel zone is often the closest way out.

Not that I agree with intentional training of course, but I would hate to see someone get banned because they picked up Slate aggro 20 steps from the tunnel and headed that way to zone. Zoning aggros is a perfectly legitimate use of a zoneline....Hindering normal play in a zone because 200 people have designated that zone the marketplace is technically, in live terms, zone disruption. Not the other way around. EC doesn't cease to be an adventure zone with everything that goes with that just because the server decided to hold auctions there. And when you sit next to a zoneline, or in the pathing to/from a zoneline, you run the distinct risk of catching a train to and from that zoneline....It doesn't mean someone necessarily intentionally trained you. I've run into this claim while simply pulling for groups....People just sit their asses down in hallways, doorways, etc and think they now have some personal no-fly zone or something simply because they sat there. Doesn't work that way.

I was all for getting rid of global chat. The server really feels like EQ now, for me at least, and EC is where I like to do my trading, short of the bazaar. But as others have said, you wanted EC, deal with the realities of EC or move the trading to someplace that doesn't have roaming guards that aggro a significant portion of the playerbase. You can't have it both ways and I think the GMs should tread lightly in this area. No one has held a gun to anyone's head and made them do their trading in any particular zone, any particular part of a zone, or made them go afk in said part of zone or while logged into a level 1 trader mule that happens to be kos to some of the things that could be trained to a nearby zone during legitimate gameplay in that zone.

All of that said, as long as people aren't getting screwed by knee-jerk bannings when they are genuinely needing to zone an aggro, go ahead and nip the asshattery in the bud. It can't be that hard to tell who is doing it intentionally.

[Vyal]

That's pretty lame is someone got banned for that......

[Cyrius]

So just a few minutes ago Cyrius says to the server, Next person to train EC tunnel is going to be banned or whatever.

*disclaimer* i was in Unrest at the time and am still there but.... Why are you people being hippocrits? You wanted a classic server with EC tunnel for trading? Then you need to deal with the rest of the EC tunnel issues namely the area being CONSTANTLY trained on live in classic days

I said that the next person that keeps intentionaly harrasing / training people in EC will get banned. It is not fun for the people that sell at EC tunnel to die every 10 minutes.

It is also not funny that i have to get back to the EC tunnel every 10 minutes for another petition of intentional training. It takes up time i could use to help people retrieve lost corpse, or people that are stuck.

[Cyrius]

Oh and also its quite classic to get banned for intentional repeadetly harassment.

And yes, it was Merchants / Guards from the whole zone beeing trained every 10 minutes into the EC tunnel.

[nilbog]

Sounds like rants and flames to me, right? You're complaining?

Intentionally do something enough times, after an authority figure tells you to cease and desist and see what happens. RL police are a great example of this.

Cyrius devotes free time to helping players get unstuck and listening to frivolous drivel.

He should get a medal.

Why are you people being hippocrits?

You should not call people hypocrites. That's a big word.

Aka, don't fuck with the staff. Especially if its none of your business.

[Elysium]

Why the fuck does this thread exist?

If you blatantly train anywhere repeatedly and a GM notices he's going to lay some punishment on you.