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Hasbinlulz
08-15-2012, 10:34 PM
My Fellow Norrathians:
By now, most Quentin Tarantino fans are aware of the connections interlaced throughout all of his films. John Travolta’s Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction is the brother of Michael Madsen’s Vic Vega in Reservoir Dogs, Harvey Keitel’s Mr. White worked with Alabama from True Romance, the plot basis for Kill Bill is described as the synopsis for a TV series in Pulp Fiction, etc.
Now the epiphany that Eli Roth’s character of Donny Donowitz aka “The Bear Jew” in Inglourious Basterds is the father of the movie producer Lee Donowitz in True Romance has inspired a truly mind-blowing theory that the rest of the films (chronologically speaking) in Tarantino’s filmography take place in a world where [Inglorious Basterds spoiler] World War II came to an end when Adolf Hitler was brutally murdered in a movie theater by the Basterds.
This initial connection was brought up in an article on Cracked, but a poster on Reddit
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(via David Chen’s Twitter) has more eloquently summed up what this means for Tarantino’s movieverse:
As it turns out, Donny Donowitz, ‘The Bear Jew’, is the father of movie producer Lee Donowitz from True Romance – which means that, in Tarantino’s universe, everybody grew up learning about how a bunch of commando Jews machine gunned Hitler to death in a burning movie theater, as opposed to quietly killing himself in a bunker. Because World War 2 ended in a movie theater, everybody lends greater significance to pop culture, hence why seemingly everybody has Abed-level knowledge of movies and TV. Likewise, because America won World War 2 in one concentrated act of hyperviolent slaughter, Americans as a whole are more desensitized to that sort of thing. Hence why Butch is unfazed by killing two people, Mr. White and Mr. Pink take a pragmatic approach to killing in their line of work, Esmerelda the cab driver is obsessed with death, etc. You can extrapolate this further when you realize that Tarantino’s movies are technically two universes – he’s gone on record as saying that Kill Bill and From Dusk ‘Til Dawn take place in a ‘movie movie universe’; that is, they’re movies that characters from the Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, True Romance, and Death Proof universe would go to see in theaters. (Kill Bill, after all, is basically Fox Force Five, right on down to Mia Wallace playing the title role.) What immediately springs to mind about Kill Bill and From Dusk ‘Til Dawn? That they’re crazy violent, even by Tarantino standards. These are the movies produced in a world where America’s crowning victory was locking a bunch of people in a movie theater and blowing it to bits – and keep in mind, Lee Donowitz, son of one of the people on the suicide mission to kill Hitler, is a very successful movie producer. Basically, it turns every Tarantino movie into alternate reality sci fi. I love it so hard.
^from: (http://suicideblonde.tumblr.com/post/24087575404/inglourious-basterds-fits-perfectly-into-quentin)
bluejam
08-16-2012, 04:25 AM
TL;DR
Who does that ass belong to?
runlvlzero
08-16-2012, 04:54 AM
I'de hit that ass.
Alawen
08-16-2012, 07:54 AM
I tried to read what Hasbin typed, but as usual it's incomprehensible.
White girl has a cute butt, though.
Hasbinlulz
08-16-2012, 12:22 PM
I tried to read what Hasbin typed, but as usual it's incomprehensible.
I didn't write it, calling bullshit.
Also, shut up Mook.
Hasbinlulz
08-16-2012, 12:23 PM
Who does that ass belong to?
olympic_cheerleader_01
Orruar
08-16-2012, 01:30 PM
Most retarded theory ever. Does the person who originally posted this know even the least bit of history?
Because World War 2 ended in a movie theater, everybody lends greater significance to pop culture, hence why seemingly everybody has Abed-level knowledge of movies and TV.
First, WW2 didn't end in Germany. The Japanese still fought for 3 more months. Second, since Hitler actually died in a bunker, wouldn't this logic imply that we'd all have fantastic knowledge of bunker construction and use? Lincoln died in a theater, so shouldn't we all be experts on plays of the 19th century? Kennedy was killed in the streets of Dallas. Shouldn't we all know the streets of Dallas like the back of our hand?
Likewise, because America won World War 2 in one concentrated act of hyperviolent slaughter, Americans as a whole are more desensitized to that sort of thing.
As opposed to how we won WW2 in two concentrated acts of slaughter on a scale that makes the ending to IB look like child's play?
Hasbinlulz
08-16-2012, 01:36 PM
Shut up mook.
Autotune
08-16-2012, 01:47 PM
Most retarded theory ever. Does the person who originally posted this know even the least bit of history?
First, WW2 didn't end in Germany. The Japanese still fought for 3 more months. Second, since Hitler actually died in a bunker, wouldn't this logic imply that we'd all have fantastic knowledge of bunker construction and use? Lincoln died in a theater, so shouldn't we all be experts on plays of the 19th century? Kennedy was killed in the streets of Dallas. Shouldn't we all know the streets of Dallas like the back of our hand?
As opposed to how we won WW2 in two concentrated acts of slaughter on a scale that makes the ending to IB look like child's play?
You can type, but can't read.
BigSlip
08-16-2012, 02:05 PM
ib sucked dicks
thats why theyre not here anymore remember?
losers
Hasbinlulz
08-16-2012, 02:23 PM
Hasbinbad how is it possible for one man to be so fucking stupid
Shut up mook?
Orruar
08-16-2012, 02:47 PM
You can type, but can't read.
Care to explain? Or just making random remarks with no indication that they were generated using anything resembling a brain?
bluejam
08-16-2012, 06:53 PM
ib sucked dicks
thats why theyre not here anymore remember?
losers
Confirmed mad.
Arteker
08-16-2012, 06:59 PM
tarantino is a overrated piece of shit aswell inglorius and anythin beyond pulp fiction.
stonez138
08-16-2012, 07:09 PM
You can type, but can't read.
How can you expect him to read with his head so far up his ass?
Razdeline
08-16-2012, 07:16 PM
HBB successful. I tried to read his post but caught myself gazing at that ass.
Zithax
08-16-2012, 08:13 PM
ib sucked dicks
thats why theyre not here anymore remember?
losers
Sorry I kick ass. Check your facts.
Autotune
08-16-2012, 08:16 PM
Care to explain? Or just making random remarks with no indication that they were generated using anything resembling a brain?
Because your entire fucking response is beyond idiotic. You act like you can read, but you fucking can't.
Go back, try to comprehend the sentences and what they mean. You obviously do not know what the subject of the entire post is about. It is clearly fucking evident you pathetic imbecile.
Orruar
08-16-2012, 08:36 PM
Because your entire fucking response is beyond idiotic. You act like you can read, but you fucking can't.
Go back, try to comprehend the sentences and what they mean. You obviously do not know what the subject of the entire post is about. It is clearly fucking evident you pathetic imbecile.
I'm sorry you are so angry. I'm even more sorry that you don't have the remedial mental capacity necessary to understand how my response relates to the ideas detailed in the original post.
Autotune
08-16-2012, 08:41 PM
I'm sorry you are so angry. I'm even more sorry that you don't have the remedial mental capacity necessary to understand how my response relates to the ideas detailed in the original post.
You = Actual history
HBB = Tarantino's movie's alternate reality history.
please tell me how your stupid fucking comment relates.
Orruar
08-17-2012, 12:19 AM
You = Actual history
HBB = Tarantino's movie's alternate reality history.
please tell me how your stupid fucking comment relates.
I'll try to use smaller sentences so you can understand my point.
I'm using actual history as a parallel to explain how this person's ideas about the logic behind Tarantino's world makes no sense. He thinks we would become a society obsessed with movies because Hitler died in a theater. If this was a likely outcome, we'd all be experts on 19th century plays, since Lincoln died in a theater. My other point is that he also thinks that the hyperviolent end to Hitler would lead to a hyperviolent culture. However, the actual end to WW2 was violence several orders of magnitude greater than a movie theater full of people dying. So this logic would imply that we would be much more violent today than we actually are.
I realize that abstraction and analogy are concepts that the human brain doesn't learn to understand until late childhood, so if this still isn't making any sense, give it a few years.
Autotune
08-17-2012, 12:40 AM
I'll try to use smaller sentences so you can understand my point.
I'm using actual history as a parallel to explain how this person's ideas about the logic behind Tarantino's world makes no sense. He thinks we would become a society obsessed with movies because Hitler died in a theater. If this was a likely outcome, we'd all be experts on 19th century plays, since Lincoln died in a theater. My other point is that he also thinks that the hyperviolent end to Hitler would lead to a hyperviolent culture. However, the actual end to WW2 was violence several orders of magnitude greater than a movie theater full of people dying. So this logic would imply that we would be much more violent today than we actually are.
I realize that abstraction and analogy are concepts that the human brain doesn't learn to understand until late childhood, so if this still isn't making any sense, give it a few years.
Exactly what I thought.
You're trying to take our history and how people reacted and disprove this person's theory on why a fictional universe has people react in odd ways compared to real people.
You can't, you fucking idiot.
Our people are not the same as the people in Tarantino's movie universe make-believe land. You can't take a standard from one and apply it to another and try to disprove anything. It's 2 different ingredients.
You have no fucking point.
"herpdaderp, if ur theory on why those make believe people are they way they are was true, us real peoples would know some stuffs bout bunkers and plays.... DADURP!"
Orruar
08-17-2012, 01:29 AM
If he was only talking about a few individuals, I'd be with you, but the OP uses terms like "everyone", which means he thinks there were massive societal changes due to these events. I don't think this is very realistic, and unless your movie is extreme parody like Kung Pow, Enter the Fist, you do strive for a semblance of realism. I highly doubt Tarantino's idea of his world is anything like this guy's idea of that world. More likely, his alternate world was much more violent to begin with, which I could buy. But it's not just some alternate reality that only broke off from our starting with Hitler's alternate death, as the OP would suggest. I don't think you fully comprehended what he was saying.
Hasbinlulz
08-17-2012, 01:33 AM
The only correct answer to this thread was "what words?"
You all failed the gay test.
(Except Relapsee)
Hasbinlulz
08-17-2012, 01:33 AM
(..and by Relapsee I totally meant Vazdeline)
(sorry vaz)
AimAce
08-17-2012, 01:38 AM
Pretty sure the "girl" in OP's pic is a dude...
Autotune
08-17-2012, 01:49 AM
If he was only talking about a few individuals, I'd be with you, but the OP uses terms like "everyone", which means he thinks there were massive societal changes due to these events. I don't think this is very realistic, and unless your movie is extreme parody like Kung Pow, Enter the Fist, you do strive for a semblance of realism. I highly doubt Tarantino's idea of his world is anything like this guy's idea of that world. More likely, his alternate world was much more violent to begin with, which I could buy. But it's not just some alternate reality that only broke off from our starting with Hitler's alternate death, as the OP would suggest. I don't think you fully comprehended what he was saying.
Now this I can agree with. He does state everyone (which shouldn't be the case).
I was not saying his theory was correct or trying to even validate his thoughts. More so that using our standard wasn't appropriate. (I am also guilty of blatantly trolling you)
The guy's theory is clearly flawed by the way it is written. Not everyone from the Tarantino films (including the lesser actors) are the way he describes. It's mainly the prominent actors, who you would expect to have odd tendencies so that they are unique, that fall into his description.
I wouldn't say that it is just an alternate reality broken from that point of time, Hitler's death, but an alternate reality all on it's own from the beginning. It is however, clear that the only person even remotely capable of detailing why the people are the way they appear is Tarantino himself.
If he implies the term "everyone" to stand for the main actors that have a connection to other actors in other films, then I can somewhat agree with his theory on why they are the way that they are. However, I can't say that the masses of the entire world are heavily affected by what went on in the history of that reality, shown to us by previous movies. It's clear that multiple people seem very similar to our own standard person. Yet, it is common for 2 different experiences to have 2 different effects and being as such those people may seem similar but would, in fact, have very subtle differences (like how they perceive vengeance, justice, petty crime, murder, and so on).
Autotune
08-17-2012, 01:51 AM
The only correct answer to this thread was "what words?"
You all failed the gay test.
(Except Relapsee)
Some people have seen an ass before, even this particular one you so eloquently placed.
Hasbinlulz
08-17-2012, 08:01 PM
tarantino is a overrated piece of shit aswell inglorius and anythin beyond pulp fiction.
quality post
Hasbinlulz
08-17-2012, 08:02 PM
Some people have seen an ass before, even this particular one you so eloquently placed.
ur hella straight bro
Razdeline
08-17-2012, 08:51 PM
(..and by Relapsee I totally meant Vazdeline)
(sorry vaz)
score I like winning mind games
Autotune
08-17-2012, 11:20 PM
ur hella straight bro
Dude, you're a fag that can't even pull internet pussy. Keep occupying those cocks.
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