KSing can not be catered to, or rewarded

[Razdeline]

This has become a powerful thread! Grats BDA on smoking tmo to yet another fear mob

[lilyanna]

doesnt like tmo
joins tmo


Real question is how much does she not like you guys to join us? LOL

Dont really care tbh :)

[Metallikus]

doesnt like tmo
joins tmo


Real question is how much does she not like you guys to join us? LOL

pixels > integrity

the basic equation in the head of anyone that joins TMO

[Autotune]

pixels > integrity

the basic equation in the head of anyone that joins TMO

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[quido]

Come feel the softer side of TMO.

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I want you to receive my expanding variance.

[Alarti0001]

pixels > integrity

the basic equation in the head of anyone that joins TMO

I don't think you know what this means.

[Relapse4]

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1 of my favs

[Relapse4]

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[Nietche]

BDA attempt(ed) to develop agreements on specific highly contested mobs while allowing free competition on the rest of the server, but has [not] been able to reach consensus with TMO.


Everytime I broached the topic of negotiation with TMO while I was still in BDA, I was immediately shut down by the likes of Chest and Sanluen. The only "negotiation" they wanted from TMO was the "handout kind."


The challenge in this game is beating the encounter (as trivial as that may be in some cases) and/or beating the competition to the encounter.

The encounter is cake. There is no challenge really. The competition to the encounter (i.e., racing) is about all we have on this server. Taking that away via rotations would amount to server suicide.


BDA tried to be an example for this during the TMO suspension, and I think we definitely showed that's it's possible to race without the drama.

There was no drama because you had no real competition.

Had a real-life friend who is a PhD shrink have a look at this thread


Shrinks have their own issues.

When the server was young, there were about 50 hardcore raiders. We were split into two groups, Inglourious Basterds and Transcendence. There really wasn't enough content to divide to everyone's satisfaction, so each side did everything we could to come out right up to the point of getting in trouble.

Over time, fingers have been pointed at whichever guild was getting the lion's share of wins. What's less evident is that those guilds have gotten bigger and bigger and even within the winning guilds there is resentment about who gets what loot.

There simply isn't enough content to satisfy the expectations of everyone who plays on Project 1999. There are too few encounters and too little loot to divide between what are now hundreds of people who would like to raid. Perhaps Velious will take some of that pressure off, but I highly doubt it. I have little doubt that dozens of people have already thought through and prioritized how to secure that content for their own guilds and clique groups within the guild. I expect the top two or three guilds, whichever they turn out to be, to expand to even greater numbers in order to maintain dominance across all zones and desirable encounters.

This is how Project 1999 has been and likely will be. Enjoy what you can. Laugh at the personalities and interactions. Treasure your rare loot. It is a simple exercise in economics to demonstrate that the scarcity of resources on this server cannot possibly be divided to everyone's satisfaction. There can be no equitable solution and conflicts will never end. If anything is done to force a rotation or multiply the availability of raid encounters, there will no longer be any challenge at all as 50-100 players converge to obliterate their target in less than a minute.
Enjoy the fight. Rough it up. Get dirty. It's why you're really here.

This.

[Tasslehofp99]

pixels > integrity

the basic equation in the head of anyone that joins TMO

lol'd

[Jarnauga]

Everytime I broached the topic of negotiation with TMO while I was still in BDA, I was immediately shut down by the likes of Chest and Sanluen. The only "negotiation" they wanted from TMO was the "handout kind."


Awaiting your proposal, Einstein.

[Autotune]

Awaiting your proposal, Einstein.

TMO says fuck you, have a nice day.

[Jarnauga]

TMO says fuck you, have a nice day.

Thanks for proving my point.

[Autotune]

Thanks for proving my point.

Your point? You mean that thing that is already well known. BDA wants handouts and TMO has never agreed to giving handouts.

Welcome to last year.

[Harazzer]

Yea nietche loves the competition, thats why i saw him on about 2 raids during my 2 months in BDA. Because hes such a hardcore raider. Obviously.

Oh wait, I forgot, he was busy trying to start an Occupy BDA movement with Knix about the VD merger the whole time, then jumped over to the other team for free loot.

[touchtonedialing]

Your point? You mean that thing that is already well known. BDA wants handouts and TMO has never agreed to giving handouts.

Welcome to last year.

Unless the guild does whatever TMO wants, is full of TMO officers and members. Then handouts are fine.

Hey Enraptured, how them handouts.

[Autotune]

Yea nietche loves the competition, thats why i saw him on about 2 raids during my 2 months in BDA. Because hes such a hardcore raider. Obviously.

Oh wait, I forgot, he was busy trying to start an Occupy BDA movement with Knix about the VD merger the whole time, then jumped over to the other team for free loot.

Nietche hates VD, joins TMO in disgust of the VD absorption done by BDA.

Makes sense, seems like the free loot was just a bonus.

[Autotune]

Unless the guild does whatever TMO wants, is full of TMO officers and members. Then handouts are fine.

Hey Enraptured, how them handouts.

Jealousy.

Pretty sure Enraptured and TMO have an agreement together, not a rotation of free loot. You sound mad.

[QuantumZebra]

Unless the guild does whatever TMO wants, is full of TMO officers and members. Then handouts are fine.

Hey Enraptured, how them handouts.

Hand out... loot rotation... unicorn fucking....


Call it what you want; we still get the loot.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTyj-r5cVjY

[Tarathiel]

TMO says fuck you, have a nice day.

http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q514/Hysmofyteligok/Gifs%20and%20sparkly%20stuff/1PUPPY.gif

[tops419]

Don't compete. It's not worth it.
If you BDA folks keep it up, you'll change from seemingly and self described "casual" folks to loot obsessed TMO clones.
Check your /played and ask yourself if most of those DAYS were Fun or work? Seems like too many people are making it work.

TMO, I think you guys are pure idiots for not starting a rotation. Why fight so hard for 80% of the raid content when you guys could easily get probably 60% in a merit based rotation? I know all the jokes: cuz we're awesome, cuz we can, etc. but for fuck's sake, aren't you guys getting sick of spending so much time and not even having fun?

I use the word fight loosely. Cause it's not a fight, it's a time sink that could be spent enjoying other things.
Don't any of remember how much fun eq was when you consistently met with your buddies on say a Tuesday and Thursday night and wrecked the monsters of Norrath

Some of you are logging 12+hours daily just for those extra couple encounters you'd have to let someone else have in a rotation.

I feel for the all the other guilds fighting for a piece of the pie. Truth is though, if they end up getting it in the same manner you guys have, I think they will end up wishing they hadn't.

It's like a hotdog eating competition. The winner is really the loser.

[Alawen]

Are you going to try to talk down the hot dog eaters next? They get something out of it. Probably major damage to their lower g.i., but that's not our problem.

I'm sure it seems reasonable to you, but a month after a rotation happens, half the raiding population will quit. There's no adrenaline rush or bragging rights to waiting your turn in line.

There's a better version of that game called World of Warcraft.

[Cwall]

blue drama is gay as fuck

pvp would fix it

[Tarathiel]

blue drama is gay as fuck

pvp would fix it

there"s been more pvp on the blue server the past couple weeks than red has seen in 6 months, crawl back in your hole

[Cwall]

not sure why you think i play on red99

haven't stepped foot on that shit box in the past 9 months

[tops419]

Check your /played
How much of it was an "adrenaline Rush"?

[Alawen]

Check your /played
How much of it was an "adrenaline Rush"?

I'm getting close to 100 days /played and I've enjoyed almost every minute, including endless hours spent as a tracking class and leveling a tracking class alt to track some more. I love EQ. I like the competition and the drama, the epic wins and the heartbreaking losses. I'm extremely good at keeping myself amused. If I didn't like this game, I'd play something else or nothing at all.

I am completely baffled by the people who spend a lot of time bitching about the mechanics of EverQuest or the way Project 1999 is set up. You know you don't have to play, right?

[tops419]

I love p1999/EQ.
Isn't that why were here?
Like parents arguing about the way their child should be raised and treated?
Bitching means we care:)

[Razdeline]

Keep training tmo in vp and force a rotation

[Maze513]

Hosh Nex and Xyg downd this morn..... only rotation is alts for rots

[Fazlazen]

who got trak ?

[Alawen]

who got trak ?

The guild who showed up.

[Autotune]

Keep training tmo in vp and force a rotation

TMO only guild to ever kill VP dragons while being trained by "the best guild evar".

literally gives 0fucks about trains.

[Tarathiel]

TMO only guild to ever kill VP dragons while being trained by "the best guild evar".

literally gives 0fucks about trains.

obviously

[Razdeline]

Train and dont stop till you get a rotation, they will do the same, being that they started the training. Ib always held the grounds for good and fair competition. Tmo will fuck it up first chance that favors them

[Fazlazen]

Train and dont stop till you get a rotation, they will do the same, being that they started the training. Ib always held the grounds for good and fair competition. Tmo will fuck it up first chance that favors them

Who went into vp when it wasn't their turn and tried to steal the other guild's Phara Dar ?

(and failed miserably)

[Zereh]

Train and dont stop till you get a rotation, they will do the same, being that they started the training. Ib always held the grounds for good and fair competition.

LOL That may work with newbie VD/BDA, but the rest of us know how you operated. So quit yer lying.

[Nietche]

Don't compete. It's not worth it.
If you BDA folks keep it up, you'll change from seemingly and self described "casual" folks to loot obsessed TMO clones.
Check your /played and ask yourself if most of those DAYS were Fun or work? Seems like too many people are making it work.

Comparing "what's fun" between casuals and hardcores is like comparing apples to figs. If the casuals in VDA were intent on raiding and getting phat lewts, they wouldn't be lobbying for a non-raid day at least one day a week. Seems to me the only people in VDA who are whining about TMO are either VD or people like Skarry who have a blind, seething hate for TMO everytime TMO kills a dragon. I never understood the latter category, but the former, well, VD are a bunch of greedy little asshats whom I called, quote, "an atrocity" when VDA leadership decided to open the flood gates to them. I still stand by that statement.

TMO, I think you guys are pure idiots for not starting a rotation. Why fight so hard for 80% of the raid content when you guys could easily get probably 60% in a merit based rotation? I know all the jokes: cuz we're awesome, cuz we can, etc. but for fuck's sake, aren't you guys getting sick of spending so much time and not even having fun?


Because.....


I'm sure it seems reasonable to you, but a month after a rotation happens, half the raiding population will quit. There's no adrenaline rush or bragging rights to waiting your turn in line.


This.

And I've never had so much fun. To boot, TMO is a fun loving, family guild. If you've never been in TMO /gu, you really have no idea what you're talking about when you say TMO is just a "raid guild." Semi-casual members (nice ones!) who are willing to make a modest amount of raids and also enjoy helping their guild progress would do well to seriously contemplate applying to TMO. You'll never look back. Promise!

[Maze513]

as stated before Getsome and crew is the real killer of Guilds... Zeelot just gets FTE on their credi

[Jarnauga]

what competition are you talking about ..? you have been alone getting ALL the mobs in the past few months until BDA got some stuff. ..camping on ledge, waiting on batphone to kill trak with nobody else there but TMO, that's competition ? there's no competition on this server, period. Oh and there's actually someone trying to compete, we have to suffer the trainin, rule-lawyering, and general-asshatry from TMO. I guess that's what you call competition ?

People are not leaving this server because they can't compete. THey're leaving because they don't want to play this GAME with you guys. Game. fun.

[Alarti0001]

what competition are you talking about ..? you have been alone getting ALL the mobs in the past few months until BDA got some stuff. ..camping on ledge, waiting on batphone to kill trak with nobody else there but TMO, that's competition ? there's no competition on this server, period. Oh and there's actually someone trying to compete, we have to suffer the trainin, rule-lawyering, and general-asshatry from TMO. I guess that's what you call competition ?

People are not leaving this server because they can't compete. THey're leaving because they don't want to play this GAME with you guys. Game. fun.

Im sure that BDA started the petitioning. Hell you had a guy frapsing us at naggy when you have 4 ppl in the zone.

[Hurley]

TMO is a fun loving, family guild.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4061/4669812732_5407c2534c_b.jpg

[Tarathiel]

u guys happy now?

[Alarti0001]

u guys happy now?

Half wood only

[Shinko]

lamo that was me, and no i never turned on fraps for when you had naggy out of his lair i was like me push back from tanking him i just said fraps to scare you


why be scared if doing nothing wrong


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..
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fyi the tank moved him asap i said that

good job

[Paumad]

Shinko should lead more TMO raids.

[Psycher]

TMO is a fun loving, family guild.

lol

leapfrogging, train happy, over all countless occurrences of douchebaggery over the years.

Seems like the scum of the server to me.

Respectful fun eq > TMO douchebaggery, even if they have more pixels than I.

[quido]

I just want a rotation.

[Nietche]

Hi, Chebby!

[arsenalpow]

I just want a rotation.

me too!

[Daliant17447]

At least TMO members pay for their ports

[Autotune]

At least TMO members pay for their ports

A < TMO > always pays his debts.

[Razdeline]

A < TMO > always pays his debts.

lolz

[Razdeline]

confirmed incest

[Alarti0001]

lol

leapfrogging, train happy, over all countless occurrences of douchebaggery over the years.

Seems like the scum of the server to me.

Respectful fun eq > TMO douchebaggery, even if they have more pixels than I.

Were you ever in TMO?

[Clark]

pixels > integrity

the basic equation in the head of anyone that joins TMO

+1

[Nivar Quartz]

I just want a rotation.

/Thread lol ... to much

[Nirgon]

I just want a rotation.

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