Adriana suspended? Why?

[Razdeline]

One of our members was randomly suspended without explanation in a non-GM intervention zone (VP).

Would be nice to get some information on this at least, so people can play the game as we have been playing it in specific zones without random fear of getting suspended or banned.

0 peace of mind given.

[Razdeline]

I just don't feel its right for someone to get suspended without being told a reason.

Just another ruling that so happened to be in TMO's favor (typical).

[quido]

Lol sucker

[Nietche]

When an idiot runs a stop sign in the city and gets ticketed by a police officer, what justification does said idiot have in declaring that his punishment somehow favors the guy across town who is obeying the law? Neither event has anything to do with the other.

[Razdeline]

I mean Loly summoning eyes to zone wasn't noticed?

[Happyfeet]

ohi little fella

[Razdeline]

When an idiot runs a stop sign in the city and gets ticketed by a police officer, what justification does said idiot have in declaring that his punishment somehow favors the guy across town who is obeying the law? Neither event has anything to do with the other.

If your referring to stereotypes, profiling, and the like. Then yes this shit does happen.

Your argument makes 0 sense.

[Razdeline]

And my argument subjects you guys doing the same exact shit to COH people. So fucking try again.

[Harrison]

Lol implying TMO is following the rules and is a law abiding citizen in the analogy...

How many raid suspensions now?(tickets)

[Razdeline]

Lol implying TMO is following the rules and is a law abiding citizen in the analogy...

How many raid suspensions now?(tickets)

Its dumb rule lawyering going on once again. Our guy gets suspended for using a known technique to pull, whereas a mage does the same shit to summon people to their raid.

Makes 0 sense, its 1 sided, rule lawyering, bull shit.

This will make the griefing all the better.

[Eccezan]

Its dumb rule lawyering going on once again. Our guy gets suspended for using a known technique to pull, whereas a mage does the same shit to summon people to their raid.

Makes 0 sense, its 1 sided, rule lawyering, bull shit.

This will make the griefing all the better.

So hows that goin for ya? ;)

[Nietche]

If your referring to stereotypes, profiling, and the like. Then yes this shit does happen.

Your argument makes 0 sense.

You could be Princess Diana in a frog suit. If you run a stop sign and a police officer sees it, Miss Froggy is getting a citation. It doesn't matter what "profile" she fits, and her being ticketed has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else.

[Harrison]

Like I said, nothing is going to be done about it unless it comes from the top down.

You can present any amount of proof, pictures, videos, logs, anything. If it isn't from Nilbog and Rogean down, it is worthless.

Even when you do have this proof, it's ignored for whatever reason. Shit, there have been times when a GM has sat and watched a guild exploit and they weren't banned or raid suspended for it at the very least.

Nilbog's ominous raid rule change needs to happen sooner rather than later, though it's likely far too late.

[Razdeline]

Good, but more importantly how are you?

[Greeedy]

When an idiot runs a stop sign in the city and gets ticketed by a police officer, what justification does said idiot have in declaring that his punishment somehow favors the guy across town who is obeying the law? Neither event has anything to do with the other.

WTF does this mean dude???????

[Razdeline]

You could be Princess Diana in a frog suit. If you run a stop sign and a police officer sees it, Miss Froggy is getting a citation. It doesn't matter what "profile" she fits, and her being ticketed has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else.

Just stop talking.

[Greeedy]

You could be Princess Diana in a frog suit. If you run a stop sign and a police officer sees it, Miss Froggy is getting a citation. It doesn't matter what "profile" she fits, and her being ticketed has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else.

Are you high?

[Razdeline]

Like I said, nothing is going to be done about it unless it comes from the top down.

You can present any amount of proof, pictures, videos, logs, anything. If it isn't from Nilbog and Rogean down, it is worthless.

Even when you do have this proof, it's ignored for whatever reason. Shit, there have been times when a GM has sat and watched a guild exploit and they weren't banned or raid suspended for it at the very least.

Nilbog's ominous raid rule change needs to happen sooner rather than later, though it's likely far too late.

Yeah I keep trying to have faith in this project, but lately it's looking grim. And I agree whole heartedly about the top down thing.

But, even so, my faith in any justice happening is little to none.

[Tanthallas]

Why do you insist on making up scenarios Nietche? Making shit up and following its logic instead of using the particular context of the situation at hand only shows how stupid you really are.

[Razdeline]

Well their guild is headed by a dude that has been proven to beat women, yet people stay in TMO for whatever reason.

Have fun with dishonorable pieces of shit.

[Nietche]

Why do you insist on making up scenarios Nietche? Making shit up and following its logic instead of using the particular context of the situation at hand only shows how stupid you really are.

You know what an analogy is? It has a specific purpose: to exemplify. But, I realize that you are probably a plebeian. I apologize. I will rephrase my answer.

Adriana (or the person playing the toon) was caught cheating and was suspended for it. This event is in no way dependent upon what TMO was doing, as was implied by the OP. That was the point of the analogy.

Cheers!

[baub]

thinking of u always adriana

http://i47.tinypic.com/288z49x.jpg

[Tanthallas]

Nietche, what you are doing is assuming your conclusion and having some moronic sense of fulfillment that the logic traces out to give you exactly what you already assumed.

In your simplistic ticket example, you are assuming a stance from the very outset what is the whole argument to begin with. Naturally, the end result of the logic is precisely what was smuggled into your assumptions.

The way your choose to argue shows only that you have a weak intellect and an even weaker sense of honor.

[Razdeline]

You know what an analogy is? It has a specific purpose: to exemplify. But, I realize that you are probably a plebeian. I apologize. I will rephrase my answer.

Adriana (or the person playing the toon) was caught cheating and was suspended for it. This event is in no way dependent upon what TMO was doing, as was implied by the OP. That was the point of the analogy.

Cheers!

Why are you once again using irrelevant words in all your arguments? Plebeian? Do you even know what that means?

And now you are lying. Adriana was not cheating, he was using eye of zomm like very fucking monk does there to pull, and also, mages to COH people to raids (WHICH YOUR MAGE WAS DOING)

[Harrison]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=591231&postcount=5

Remember this? When a GM was watching TMO exploit and nothing happened as a result of being caught?

I do.

[Tanthallas]

The argument being this: is summoning an eye of zomm to zone in cheating or not?

Your entire guild was CoHed to the spot in VP by an 'eye of Loly', remember....

[Relapse1]

Adriana PD dropped 3 robes last week they B on rot status soon come scoop 1 up on your new monk fuck these retards like Nietche leave their guild then immediately start posting in every TMO thread like he/she is anything but someone to pad numbers while the real TmO members are on a break

[MooseTX82]

Well their guild is headed by a dude that has been proven to beat women, yet people stay in TMO for whatever reason.

Have fun with dishonorable pieces of shit.

I really fail to see how anyone's personal life matters. In Norrath what you do on earth has no bearing.

[Relapse1]

Razdeline you 2

[Razdeline]

kk comming to mac....again.

[Relapse1]

YES

[baub]

BIG GURP

[lilyanna]

No matter what player, what guild, GM's should at least let people know why they are being suspended prior to doing it.

[quido]

Generally people find out why they are suspended (if they don't already know) by petitioning.

[Autotune]

lol @ this.

[Razdeline]

Take a break Stealin we got this

[Autotune]

Take a break Stealin we got this

I just got home, kinda buzzed still and not sure if this is trolling or real.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Generally people find out why they are suspended (if they don't already know) by petitioning.

[Razdeline]

I was suspended by Ambrotos for training Fazlazen, and I was definately the one in the wrong. (But everyone else tells me that hes a major D-bag and deserved it)

Anyways~

I think he killed me, and ported me to zone in. Explained to me why i was getting suspended..Didn't take more than 30 seconds. Why couldn't this have happened in this scenario as it happened with me?

True champion of the law.

[Razdeline]

I really fail to see how anyone's personal life matters. In Norrath what you do on earth has no bearing.

Says common guild known on the server to be pawns to TMO... Go away.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Shrug, I cannot answer that. Or perhaps it already has. I'm not saying you aren't right or that you aren't justified in your anger it just seems the community is so inured to this kind of thing no one really cares. Injustice, bias, unfairness, or the appearance of it (albeit sometimes through ignorance) is accepted as a way of life here in the raid scene. As much I want to support this project and the hard work put in, I refuse to answer to some sort of arbitrary system which governs me. Either people are made to play nice or they don't. So I left. I guess I can say it best as;

Sooner or later a man must realize he cannot everything, a choice is all that is left him.

[Shinko]

Nietche fuck man you are wierd you and knix both.


also stealin why does my epic suck?

[Shinko]

and wait you got suspended for training? in vp? or eyeball in vp?

[Cecily]

You know what an analogy is?

No I don't and I am also confused by a large number of other words in this thread like plebeian and albeit.

[vinx]

Nietche: so a cop pulls over a guy and he gets mad at the other guy on the other side of town because he knows somebody who knows somebody and well you know, soon after this shit goes down and now everyones to blame!

DONT YOU FUCKIN GET IT??

FYI Nietche you suck at analogies

[bylbob]

Maybe a new GM that isn't butt buddy in IRC with the worst trolls of this server, nor giving his personnal infos like FB/phone number... should do the job.

[Alarti0001]

Its dumb rule lawyering going on once again. Our guy gets suspended for using a known technique to pull, whereas a mage does the same shit to summon people to their raid.

Makes 0 sense, its 1 sided, rule lawyering, bull shit.

This will make the griefing all the better.

Its pull pathing tardsauce. Obv by trying to train us with your grief crew your mobs were pathing through walls or lava. There was already a warning about this and a cease and desist order. No doubt adriana was suspended for exploiting pathing.

Better luck next time.

[Alarti0001]

Regarding how much you guys exploited pathing in VP, TMO would already be disbanded if GMs cared about it. Adriana fell like a warrior on the battlefield, due to GM interference 'cause you little e-whores QQ'd in petition.

P99 is a sick sad little world :(

And alarti, you must be really ugly buddy...

If it hurts your feelings then i'm sorry and we shall have a malteada juntos, I'll invite you down in miami as I'll be there in August.

Who else is in ? I'll jump on the occasion to have breakfast with Jeremy aswell.

Eh been too Miami enough times to be tired of it.

If you want to see what I look like ask relapse he masturbates to my photo nightly.

[KentalCowtipper]

TMO - Collecting IB Tears since 2011!
We seemed to have banked quite a few more last night too.

Lets see.. we mobilize to VP to engage Druushk. VP random Asshats A, B and C see this and decide their job is to try to train 40 odd people for no reason other than spite.

Problem is Asshat A gets suspended for pathing mobs through walls (what I assume it was for as we saw it and there have been previous warnings). While this is happening Asshats B and C repeatedly die while TMO camps out and laughs.

We camp in, kill Druushk with 1 death and laugh even more as our trainers continue to train the random IB Asshats in VP while we go onto the next target.

All in all a good time was had by all. Thanks you for trying to participate in TMO's raid IB. Adrianna's suspension was sweeter than the Druushk kill imo; not to mention the lulz we got from watching you guys die over and over - made coming to VP for only 1 dragon well, well worth it. Keep up the good work guys =)

[LordFresh]

epicemu in open beta! Soon brews new sandbox

[Tiggles]

TMO - Collecting IB Tears since 2011!
We seemed to have banked quite a few more last night too.

Lets see.. we mobilize to VP to engage Druushk. VP random Asshats A, B and C see this and decide their job is to try to train 40 odd people for no reason other than spite.

Problem is Asshat A gets suspended for pathing mobs through walls (what I assume it was for as we saw it and there have been previous warnings). While this is happening Asshats B and C repeatedly die while TMO camps out and laughs.

We camp in, kill Druushk with 1 death and laugh even more as our trainers continue to train the random IB Asshats in VP while we go onto the next target.

All in all a good time was had by all. Thanks you for trying to participate in TMO's raid IB. Adrianna's suspension was sweeter than the Druushk kill imo; not to mention the lulz we got from watching you guys die over and over - made coming to VP for only 1 dragon well, well worth it. Keep up the good work guys =)

Seems about right.

[Dontaze]

Pathing had nothing to do with my suspension. It was for summoning an Eye of Zomm to the zone in.

[Harrison]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=591231&postcount=5

Remember this? When a GM was watching TMO exploit in VP and nothing happened as a result of being caught?

I do

[Ilakje]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=591231&postcount=5

Remember this? When a GM was watching TMO exploit in VP and gave them and the entire server a warning not to exploit pathing in VP?

I do

[Amelinda]

summoning eyes through a wall to pop them at zone in is an exploit and if i catch ANYONE doing it you will suffer a suspension or worse.

No. I didn't catch Loly doing it. I wasn't in VP very long. But had i caught Loly doing it he would be sitting in time out also.

Now. the only part of VP that is no interference is really as far as raid disputes etc. If you exploit, I will STILL suspend you even if you are in VP.

I'm sick. I have a fever. I suspended the person(s) i caught and went to bed directly afterwards.