Forward from Server chat: Draco night - BDA and TMO

[Tanthallas]

Had Ambrotos been there the entire time, he would have seen your bard kiting Dracro around for 3-5 minutes before a TMO monk tagged it off him with 5 charges of a mallet, followed by a BDA member tagging it off his peel.

You really are pushing it now, arent you Nietche.

HOW CAN I PULL OFF OF 5 MALLET CLICKS WITH A CLICK OF A TEMP FLUX STAFF ????

Actually - I want you to tell me what in this game could pull off 5 mallet clicks so quickly? I am making popcorn now; cannot wait for this response.

Edit - this is not rants and flames. I am not sure if this is the appropriate place for this. I will move this to RnF if i get a reply to this particular conversation.

You are arguing semantics, ambrotos was not there the whole time. TMO had to fte and bda pulled it off. How you did it doesn't matter. Stay on point, troll.

How the hell am I arguing semantics? Nietche said the puller unloaded 5 midnight mallet charges on the mob for FTE. I replied that a temp flux staff will never pull off 5 mallet charges so quickly?

WRU SEMANTICS???

[Tanthallas]

Seeing, that is, how I am the one who pulled it with a temp flux staff. Necrious knows this to be true. Necrious never said anything to me about midnight mallet being used by TMO, however - this claim makes your argument pretty damn shady now.

[Alarti0001]

Troll, what anyone used to pull is null. The point is fte you are arguing semantics. I doubt we pused a mallet to pull. Obviously your wizard pulled after the monk tagged, prob with a jav, but who cares because the tool is null

[Nietche]

Read your PM, Tant. I have my doubts you ever "tagged."

[Tanthallas]

I will. Thanks.

[Silentone]

Not sure where you are going with this I was there with Jjlent and 2 other TMO monks. Yes there were 4 TMO monks and zero BDA following the train which included Draco. I /shouted and asked BDA to come pull Draco because we were ready for the pull and you obviously were not. I then did /who BDA and there was I believe 8 people from BDA in zone at the time including the bard kiting. I waited a few more minutes and then suggested we pull Draco since we had 20 + in zone. Jjlent was in position and pulled Draco, his only mistake was passing your camp while pulling Draco to our raid, and we didn't think you would pull it off of us. You did and instead of us KSing it off of your raid we decided to Play Nice and just let you have it. Draco went under the world at 4%, GM gave you a second chance with double the numbers you had for your initial pull. No bitching no moaning; we said Congrats, I don’t know what part of this story was unclear

[Alarti0001]

Not sure where you are going with this I was there with Jjlent and 2 other TMO monks. Yes there were 4 TMO monks and zero BDA following the train which included Draco. I /shouted and asked BDA to come pull Draco because we were ready for the pull and you obviously were not. I then did /who BDA and there was I believe 8 people from BDA in zone at the time including the bard kiting. I waited a few more minutes and then suggested we pull Draco since we had 20 + in zone. Jjlent was in position and pulled Draco, his only mistake was passing your camp while pulling Draco to our raid, and we didn't think you would pull it off of us. You did and instead of us KSing it off of your raid we decided to Play Nice and just let you have it. Draco went under the world at 4%, GM gave you a second chance with double the numbers you had for your initial pull. No bitching no moaning; we said Congrats, I don’t know what part of this story was unclear

The part where TMO wasn't evil please repost with more evilness

[Schortt]

Not sure where you are going with this I was there twirling my mustache with Jjlent and 2 other TMO monks. Yes there were 4 TMO monks, two twirling mustaches and two others cackling gleefully, and zero BDA following the train which included Draco. Whilst twirling my mustache and thinking about training newbies in Crushbone I /shouted and asked BDA to come pull Draco because we were ready for the pull and you obviously were not. I then did /who BDA and there was I believe 8 people from BDA in zone, all of them innocent and model server citizens, at the time including the bard kiting. I waited a few more minutes until my mustache was fully twirled and then suggested we pull Draco since we had 20 + in zone and are evil. Jjlent hadn't finished twirling his mustache but was in position and pulled Draco, his only mistake aside from waiting for a full mustache twirl was passing your camp while pulling Draco to our raid, and we didn't think you would pull it off of us. You did and instead of us KSing it off of your raid we decided to Play Nice, Nice and Evil, and just let you have it. Draco went under the world at 4%, GM gave you a second chance with double the numbers you had for your initial pull. No bitching no moaning; we said Congrats, I don’t know what part of this story was unclear.....//
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http://i.imgur.com/WtiBH.jpg

[Silentone]

Hehe

[Razdeline]

Typical case of TMO leapfrogging and stealing mobs from less fortunate raid guilds.

[Silentone]

Typical case of TMO leapfrogging and stealing mobs from less fortunate raid guilds.

Guess who we learned that from?

[Autotune]

Guess who we learned that from?

Remember when IB stole a draco from us, then killed CT. However, Rogean was in the zone and he gave us CT loot by accident. He then took CT loot from us and gave us Draco's loot but didn't give IB CT loot.

Haha, those were good times.

[Autotune]

Was that before or after rogaine left for swtor

obviously before.

[visage]

http://i50.tinypic.com/30mlisk.jpg

ughhh

[Tiggles]

Fun fact Visage and Feachie post from the same IP address

[Autotune]

Fun fact Visage and Feachie post from the same IP address

I tried to get "feachie" to post all "her" private chat (from ingame and forums), but "she" wouldn't do it lol.

[Rusl]

Remember when IB stole a draco from us, then killed CT. However, Rogean was in the zone and he gave us CT loot by accident. He then took CT loot from us and gave us Draco's loot but didn't give IB CT loot.

Haha, those were good times.

That was my Shield of the Rainbow Hues :(

[getsome]

That was my Shield of the Rainbow Hues :(

I just bumped your petition Rusl.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

[Harazzer]

Pretty sure nietzche knows exactly what happened from BDA's point of view because he was probably still in the guild when this took place. Welcome TMO's newest member NIETZCHE!

[knix]

Pretty sure nietzche knows exactly what happened from BDA's point of view because he was probably still in the guild when this took place. Welcome TMO's newest member NIETZCHE!

Isnt this guy Blink who is suppose to be banned from the forums?

[Nirgon]

Remember when IB stole a draco from us, then killed CT. However, Rogean was in the zone and he gave us CT loot by accident. He then took CT loot from us and gave us Draco's loot but didn't give IB CT loot.

Haha, those were good times.

That's my boy

[Maze513]

If they made a ruling that ONLY people who actively play on P99 could post on the forums....just makes you wonder

[Harrison]

Like if they made a rule that if you cheat you get permanently banned? Oh, wait, there is a rule like that.

It's just not enforced, ever.(Just beg to be unbanned in a couple months, npnp, integrity and legitimacy gone.)

2boxing and RMT are the only things that get you a permanent ban, even though the rules clearly state that exploiting and hacking are also grounds for a permanent ban.

I offered to run around with Fraps running(or streaming for GM/guides to watch live) on a permanently invisible, muted, level 1, guide character to help with adding some legitimacy to this server, but they don't want it for whatever reason.

They'd rather catch HUNDREDS of players hacking, and let them go...catch entire guilds exploiting raid encounters on both servers, and let them go.

[Harazzer]

Isnt this guy Blink who is suppose to be banned from the forums?

Oh the other hypocrite chimes in, how adorable. No this is Sominus, i didnt do anything as unforgivable as drawing nudity (lol) I just find it amusing how you and nietzche shit on bda in every thread after being members for 350 days of the last calendar year.

[Arteker]

Oh the other hypocrite chimes in, how adorable. No this is Sominus, i didnt do anything as unforgivable as drawing nudity (lol) I just find it amusing how you and nietzche shit on bda in every thread after being members for 350 days of the last calendar year.

something bad happens when old core members leave a guild where they stayed for so long long time.

[Alarti0001]

Oh the other hypocrite chimes in, how adorable. No this is Sominus, i didnt do anything as unforgivable as drawing nudity (lol) I just find it amusing how you and nietzche shit on bda in every thread after being members for 350 days of the last calendar year.

Do people need to get beat into BDA and get tats?

I have never seen those two shit on BDA they defend BDA often, just like I do (or used to). Maybe they don't agree with everything you spew but that doesn't mean they are shitting on you.

[knix]

Oh the other hypocrite chimes in, how adorable. No this is Sominus,.......(snip)I just find it amusing how you and nietzche shit on bda in every thread after being members for 350 days of the last calendar year.

Thank you for Identifying who you were, because I thought you liked posting with anonymity for obvious reasons.

*Looks around for shit she left here*

Nope I don't see any, therefore you must be quite nuts. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news to you.

Refer to this post http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=673930&postcount=245 for information on the Draco encounter,

quote from it


[Wed Jun 13 01:35:20 2012] Appointed TMO raid leader tells you, 'remind them afterwards to not kite stuff till their force arrives =p. we let them take the chance they shouldn't have gotten'

If TMO would have pulled Draco off of the train and killed him, I'd have said good stuff since that's how it was ruled a few times in the past. BDA would have cried that they had FTE due to training and I'd have told them tough shit. The situation is prevented from happening again at least due to training. So something other than hurt butts came out of it.
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In summary Ambrotos awarded it to BDA based on TMO telling him to go ahead and let BDA have it. In this instance TMO was bending over backwards for guild relations as clearly to us that it was tagged by TMO off extended kite .

Could TMO have challenged FTE on this mob and won, perhaps, it wasnt known to either guild that the logs weren't working.
Could have TMO taken the mob back after it was tagged off our monk by BDA -- YES, could have but- for guild relations it was decided to go ahead and let BDA have a shot at it AS there were not very many BDA in attendance, but after it was reset by Ambrotos because it falling under the earth - BDA did get more of an advantage as more BDA in zone to kill it , plus time for buffing and the Train that BDA had brought to themselves wouldn't be a factor in the reset killing of draco.

summary of summary TMO did something nice, and still there is hate.
Reminder this thread is about this draco killing.

[Harrison]

So wait, you think TMO kiting a mob around(against raid rules) and bowing out when caught is "doing something nice"? lol...udumbro

[Alarti0001]

So wait, you think TMO kiting a mob around(against raid rules) and bowing out when caught is "doing something nice"? lol...udumbro

Derp, BDA was kiting the mob not TMO. Take off your TMO shaped goggles.

[Tanthallas]

In summary Ambrotos awarded it to BDA based on TMO telling him to go ahead and let BDA have it. In this instance TMO was bending over backwards for guild relations as clearly to us that it was tagged by TMO off extended kite .

Could TMO have challenged FTE on this mob and won, perhaps, it wasnt known to either guild that the logs weren't working.
Could have TMO taken the mob back after it was tagged off our monk by BDA -- YES, could have but- for guild relations it was decided to go ahead and let BDA have a shot at it AS there were not very many BDA in attendance, but after it was reset by Ambrotos because it falling under the earth - BDA did get more of an advantage as more BDA in zone to kill it , plus time for buffing and the Train that BDA had brought to themselves wouldn't be a factor in the reset killing of draco.

summary of summary TMO did something nice, and still there is hate.
Reminder this thread is about this draco killing.

Look. The problem here is that IF TMO REALLY did try to be the nice guy and give BDA the tag, WHY IS TMO CONSTANTLY BITCHING ABOUT THAT NIGHT and their apparent FTE????

So did TMO get FTE or did they 'give BDA a chance they shouldnt have had'? It cannot be both. Pick one, whichever suits your propaganda best, and stick with it.

[Tanthallas]

[Wed Jun 13 01:35:20 2012] Appointed TMO raid leader tells you, 'remind them afterwards to not kite stuff till their force arrives =p. we let them take the chance they shouldn't have gotten'

[Autotune]

Look. The problem here is that IF TMO REALLY did try to be the nice guy and give BDA the tag, WHY IS TMO CONSTANTLY BITCHING ABOUT THAT NIGHT and their apparent FTE????

So did TMO get FTE or did they 'give BDA a chance they shouldnt have had'? It cannot be both. Pick one, whichever suits your propaganda best, and stick with it.

TMO lets you kite draco and gives it to you

BDA gets pissed TMO kites Gorge

BDA petitions and gets TMO suspended for 2 weeks.

Seems pretty evident why TMO would be pissed.

[Alarti0001]

Look. The problem here is that IF TMO REALLY did try to be the nice guy and give BDA the tag, WHY IS TMO CONSTANTLY BITCHING ABOUT THAT NIGHT and their apparent FTE????

So did TMO get FTE or did they 'give BDA a chance they shouldnt have had'? It cannot be both. Pick one, whichever suits your propaganda best, and stick with it.

B/c we were suspended for kiting a gorg. Derp derp

[Heebo]

Look. The problem here is that IF TMO REALLY did try to be the nice guy and give BDA the tag, WHY IS TMO CONSTANTLY BITCHING ABOUT THAT NIGHT and their apparent FTE????

So did TMO get FTE or did they 'give BDA a chance they shouldnt have had'? It cannot be both. Pick one, whichever suits your propaganda best, and stick with it.

Why can't it be both? We had FTE and pulled it to camp. While pulling it in, BDA pulls it off our monk. We made the conscience decision not to pursue it. We told Ambrotos we were fine with giving BDA another shot. I'm sorry if this clashes with how you perceive TMO but that's all that happened.

[Artah]

Typical case of TMO leapfrogging and stealing mobs from less fortunate raid guilds.

I just don't understand what part of that was leap frogging. Let's analyze this data.

BDA = Around 10 - 1 kiting bard
TMO= at a minimum 25 including multiple pulling monks

TMO pulls the mob and accidentally passes by BDA camp
BDA Proceeds to kill the mob with zero pullers to fetch Draco

Ambrotos comes in and decides to give BDA a 2nd chance because the mob went under the world but you withheld the information about having only around 10 players in zone on TMO pull.

Should we call this just another typical BDA shadyness?

The least you can do is appologize for the confusion, I sersiously thought highly of BDA until this happened.

[Artah]

Derp, BDA was kiting the mob not TMO. Take off your TMO shaped goggles.

Leave him alone, it's probably prescription.

[Heebo]

Look. The problem here is that IF TMO REALLY did try to be the nice guy and give BDA the tag, WHY IS TMO CONSTANTLY BITCHING ABOUT THAT NIGHT and their apparent FTE????

If you're really confused about why this event is being brought up, here it is: one day later in Sky, a virtual mirror image of the Draco event was played out (except TMO didn't KS Gorg after it was pulled off our kiter). We didn't petition Draco (even if we would have the logs weren't complete according to Ambrotos) yet we were slammed with the longest p99 raid suspension for something that is a relatively common practice here. If you still don't know why we'd be upset I guess I can't explain it any more clearly.

[Tiggles]

I'm starting to think IB wasn't so bad and its just natural to hate the top guild on the server.

I need time to think about this......

[Tanthallas]

BDA Proceeds to kill the mob with zero pullers to fetch Draco

Once again. This is a blatant lie. I was personally out there fetching draco. I tagged him with temp flux staff. What is so hard to understand about this fact, I am not so sure.

If you're really confused about why this event is being brought up, here it is: one day later in Sky, a virtual mirror image of the Draco event was played out (except TMO didn't KS Gorg after it was pulled off our kiter). We didn't petition Draco (even if we would have the logs weren't complete according to Ambrotos) yet we were slammed with the longest p99 raid suspension for something that is a relatively common practice here. If you still don't know why we'd be upset I guess I can't explain it any more clearly.


No. This is not a virtual mirror of the Draco event. You were kiting Gorg for upwards of 15 minutes. You had no intention of killing him. It was quite evident. This is a case of griefing, not of FTE. If you do not like the ban or disagree, take it up with the GMs. I would like to hear their reasons, not yours.

BDA = Around 10 - 1 kiting bard
TMO= at a minimum 25 including multiple pulling monks

TMO pulls the mob and accidentally passes by BDA camp
BDA Proceeds to kill the mob with zero pullers to fetch Draco

Ambrotos comes in and decides to give BDA a 2nd chance because the mob went under the world but you withheld the information about having only around 10 players in zone on TMO pull.

Finally. Draco can be killed with less than 2 groups post-release of Kunark. Saying that BDA had 10 in zone while TMO had 25 is moot.

[Tanthallas]

Watch the fraps of the impossible being done when two groups of BDA got draco to 3% and had him pop under the world. I think Daliant posted it somewhere.

[Alarti0001]

Once again. This is a blatant lie. I was personally out there fetching draco. I tagged him with temp flux staff. What is so hard to understand about this fact, I am not so sure.




No. This is not a virtual mirror of the Draco event. You were kiting Gorg for upwards of 15 minutes. You had no intention of killing him. It was quite evident. This is a case of griefing, not of FTE. If you do not like the ban or disagree, take it up with the GMs. I would like to hear their reasons, not yours.



Finally. Draco can be killed with less than 2 groups post-release of Kunark. Saying that BDA had 10 in zone while TMO had 25 is moot.

Truth; you pulled draco off of our fte. Also, truth we kited gorg for maybe 10 mins not 15TMO as we were waiting on sirran to depop. So you are arguing about 5mins

[Tanthallas]

Also, truth we kited gorg for maybe 10 mins not 15TMO as we were waiting on sirran to depop. So you are arguing about 5mins

^

This is done.

[Alarti0001]

I'm starting to think IB wasn't so bad and its just natural to hate the top guild on the server.

I need time to think about this......

Top guild is always hated. But at least we dont have guilded gms healing us, a private vp server, and officers using third party progams then rmting off the server. There were some cool ib individuals tho.

[Nirgon]

ITT: BDA shaped goggles

[Autotune]

You were kiting Gorg for upwards of 15 minutes. You had no intention of killing him. It was quite evident. This is a case of griefing, not of FTE.


Pretty sure they were kiting Gorg to kill it for a new sirran and you guys wanted to kill it so TMO couldn't use sirran.

No one gets that butthurt over a Gorg kill to petition. I suppose unless your grief attempt was outsmarted.

[Tanthallas]

officers using third party progams then rmting off the server. There were some cool ib individuals tho.

No - you just bought them. Some cool TMO individuals as well

[getsome]

IB guild leader boxed and probable everyone else, IB always had inside info on all encounters, IB had 3-6 gm / guides in guild at all times. IB did not have to track, P99 devs created notification tool that emailed IB batphone 30 minutes before mobs spawned. IB had GM staff on speed dial. P99 devs let IB beta test sky, kunark, vp and currently velious. IB serves lobster and corn.

[Tanthallas]

No one gets that butthurt over a Gorg kill to petition. I suppose unless your grief attempt was outsmarted.

Or you are being griefed??? Are you dumb????

Wait - I forgot, I shouldn't even bother with this loser.

[Harrison]

Top guild is always hated. But at least we dont have guilded gms healing us, a private vp server, and officers using third party progams then rmting off the server. There were some cool ib individuals tho.

No, you just had:

MQ-using players(several)

SEQ trackers(several)

RMT'd characters(Many.)

2boxers(several)

Exploiters(entire guild caught exploiting multiple times, multiple encounters, several different ways)

Raid disruption(Half a dozen+ raid suspensions for blatant training, kiting, etc. etc.)

Server disruption(Killing Kunark port spell vendors, bugging them so they don't respawn with kunark port spells...cockblocking hundreds of people so you could go poopsock lowbie camps like faggots)

Absorbed the guild/players who were constantly crashing fear pre-DDOS era of the server.(File this under exploiting I guess. Crashing fear to get to North wall safely and to drive off competition.)

So clean?

[Tanthallas]

IB serves lobster and corn.

The most damning piece of evidence to date. make this your sig Alarti.

[Artah]

Once again. This is a blatant lie. I was personally out there fetching draco. I tagged him with temp flux staff. What is so hard to understand about this fact, I am not so sure.




No. This is not a virtual mirror of the Draco event. You were kiting Gorg for upwards of 15 minutes. You had no intention of killing him. It was quite evident. This is a case of griefing, not of FTE. If you do not like the ban or disagree, take it up with the GMs. I would like to hear their reasons, not yours.



Finally. Draco can be killed with less than 2 groups post-release of Kunark. Saying that BDA had 10 in zone while TMO had 25 is moot.

I have no reasons to conjure up lies, it was anounced in vent that BDA had no pullers while our monks were out there hence the public message of telling bda to pull and a tic toc shout. But yea, i'm sure you personally used temp flux to pull him off our monks, temp flux spam can pull a hungry lion off a plump rabbit.

So why didn't you honor the retry with your original crew and told the other 17 that zoned in while it was getting settled to leave? What I saw is your members constantly getting feared I highly doubt 10 of your constatly feared members would have been able to kill him.

I'm done with this though, rationalize it how you want and enjoy.

[Autotune]

Or you are being griefed??? Are you dumb????

Wait - I forgot, I shouldn't even bother with this loser.

And I am arguing with someone who admittedly stole a draco pull for their guild.

BDA getting some Top Notch players. Following in IB/VD footsteps like pros.

[knix]

And I am arguing with someone who admittedly stole a draco pull for their guild.


BDA getting some Top Notch players. Following in IB/VD footsteps like pros.
I think he is under the impression that he was out in the zone following the train that Arconis was circling with and single pulled draco off there, not off the TMO monk.
And you will find that the BDA that are here arguing are post VD merger BDA, also known as previously VD/IB

But this is about the draco kill 6/13

[Autotune]

I think he is under the impression that he was out in the zone following the train that Arconis was circling with and single pulled draco off there, not off the TMO monk.
And you will find that the BDA that are here arguing are post VD merger BDA, also known as previously VD/IB

But this is about the draco kill 6/13

I am not going to guess to what he was or wasn't thinking. I can clearly see that he is an unreasonable person.

The only people to blame here are TMO pullers. They should have solidified their pull and made it public that they were pulling as soon as they did. Should have also used other tactics to ensure that the pull came all the way into camp. If they weren't slacking and stayed on top of their game and treated other guilds like IB/VD, they'd have a great deal less problems. Going soft at #1 spot is only going to bite you in the ass.

As for the Gorg kite, should have been better at that too and/or just not worried with it. Again, that is TMO's problem for being sloppy and expecting a returned blind eye. TMO definitely shouldn't have expected a return on their previous investment.

[Bruman]

As for the Gorg kite, should have been better at that too and/or just not worried with it. Again, that is TMO's problem for being sloppy and expecting a returned blind eye. TMO definitely shouldn't have expected a return on their previous investment.

Your order of events is wrong.

[Autotune]

Your order of events is wrong.

so Draco happened after gorg? Makes it just as bad imo.

[Jjlent]

true story, i did have 5 mallet charges on draco and was bringing him towards ww from GY(where i saw no BDA except the guy with the train), ran "near" their camp pulling him when he was peeled off me. no one pulled him with a flux staff off the train, i pulled him off the train with mallet. draco wasn't aggro on any BDA until he was running "near" BDA camp and suddenly he wasn't on me anymore. tbh i don't care since u guys were in zone first and had the train but just wanted to tell it how it happened

[lilyanna]

And I am arguing with someone who admittedly stole a draco pull for their guild.

BDA getting some Top Notch players. Following in IB/VD footsteps like pros.

Far better they follow in the footsteps of those than that of TMO :) *cough* who are the ones banned right now :p

[Autotune]

Far better they follow in the footsteps of those than that of TMO :) *cough* who are the ones banned right now :p

That's because of the underdog syndrome that Amelinda has. That is how your guild escaped a shared suspension with IB twice. Was always amazing to watch VD get off free when they raided with IB, even IB members thought it was funny.

[lilyanna]

VD smelt of roses what can I say :)

Are you coming back for Velious Stealin ?

[Autotune]

VD smelt of roses what can I say :)

Are you coming back for Velious Stealin ?

Nope. I already won p99 eq.

[knix]

I have one last thing to say about this.

I am proud to be wearing a TMO tag. This suspension based on the particular event cited by GM's
Was particularly hard for me because I had seen the very same tactic used by BDA against Acyrid about a month before.

This event in fear, I heard TMO talking and they were giving BDA a chance even though it was pulled of of jj. As an applicant I listened and said nothing but, was shocked when BDA pulled it off jj, because I didn't think that was BDA style and I figured there was some confusion as who pulled it because of the large influx of newly tagged BDA

[lilyanna]

Knix you were always TMO when you were BDA was pretty clear to all. Good luck in your new guild, you are clearly a good fit.

[Alarti0001]

Far better they follow in the footsteps of those than that of TMO :) *cough* who are the ones banned right now :p

Ib was banned too, and ib/vd were the highest 2 guilds when it came to third party program suspensions, including officers. Selective memory much? Oh they also rmt'd off the server

[Alarti0001]

Knix you were always TMO when you were BDA was pretty clear to all. Good luck in your new guild, you are clearly a good fit.

She is a great fit and seems to be a great person too! Not ex-player trash like you ;)

[Relapse1]

Ib was banned too, and ib/vd were the highest 2 guilds when it came to third party program suspensions, including officers. Selective memory much? Oh they also rmt'd off the server

Starts high end raiding many months after kunark was released passes a guild that had been on the top for years in raid suspensions. Then tries to claim they are the victims.

[knix]

Knix you were always TMO when you were BDA was pretty clear to all. Good luck in your new guild, you are clearly a good fit.

Thank you,
I am pleased you think that I will fit in here I hope to. ( I know you meant that as a slight but. I will assume that you are bitter that I was opinions about IB/VD joining.of my beloved BDA.)

Are you still wearing IB tag today?

[Alarti0001]

Starts high end raiding many months after kunark was released passes a guild that had been on the top for years in raid suspensions. Then tries to claim they are the victims.

when was the first raid suspension? Would need to take the first suspension as the start of the precedent tardsauce

[Harrison]

Starts high end raiding many months after kunark was released, exploits, trains, cheats, RMTs, and shits up the server, then passes a guild that had been on the top for years, in raid suspensions. Then tries to claim they are the victims.

Fixed for accuracy.

[Relapse1]

if i remember correctly it was when your retarded guild leader interfered on our VS attempt

[Alarti0001]

if i remember correctly it was when your retarded guild leader interfered on our VS attempt

You remember incorrectly

[lilyanna]

She is a great fit and seems to be a great person too! Not ex-player trash like you ;)

Lol Alarti your insults towards me are like water of a ducks back. We all see how you get your kicks.. clearly your dick gets no action but your fingers sure work overtime.

[Relapse1]

When your other guild leader ( durison ) logged on winterfresh and trained us on trakanon?

[knix]

Thank you,
I am pleased you think that I will fit in here I hope to. ( I know you meant that as a slight but. I will assume that you are bitter that I was opinions about IB/VD joining.of my beloved BDA.)

Are you still wearing IB tag today?

I hate posting via my phone, I had strong opinions about the VD/IB influx and influence

[lilyanna]

Thank you,
I am pleased you think that I will fit in here I hope to. ( I know you meant that as a slight but. I will assume that you are bitter that I was opinions about IB/VD joining.of my beloved BDA.)

Are you still wearing IB tag today?

Lol knix you are too happy to blame VD for what you saw as a change in BDA when all along you objected because BDA had balls and stood up to your pals TMO.

I am wearing the IB tag and have no intention of changing that :)

[Relapse1]

tarts high end raiding many months after kunark was released, exploits, trains, cheats, RMTs, and shits up the server, then passes a guild that had been on the top for years, in raid suspensions. Then tries to claim they are the victims.

Thanks Harrison

[Alarti0001]

Lol Alarti your insults towards me are like water of a ducks back. We all see how you get your kicks.. clearly your dick gets no action but your fingers sure work overtime.

Lol, when a lame chick gets her feelers hurt she goes straight to dick jokes...patehtic!

[Relapse1]

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[lilyanna]

Lol, when a lame chick gets her feelers hurt she goes straight to dick jokes...patehtic!

Lol Alarti you credit yourself too much. You don't hurt peoples feelings, we come on the forum to lol at your rage :)

[Autotune]

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lol this is for lilyanna? I never knew she left her whorin' ways.

[Relapse1]

that is dedicated to all women on this planet

[Alarti0001]

Lol Alarti you credit yourself too much. You don't hurt peoples feelings, we come on the forum to lol at your rage :)

Hmmm so since no one on tmo side is mad and we just like to laugh at you, and no one on ib's side is mad they just like to laugh at us...what does that mean. Oh wait, yoy left the server and are still desperately arguing here months after you left....yaaaaa suuuuure you dont care. We believe you......really! - idiot

[lilyanna]

Lol how have I left the server.. aww alarti so badly informed.. having a break for a little while doesnt mean gone permanetly. Sorry still here :)

[lilyanna]

OMG I hate you can't edit RnF for typos lol

[JenJen]

confirmed lillian still here

[Alarti0001]

Didnt you post you were leaving for eqmac for sanity purposes and that you didnt know if you would ever play here again?

[lilyanna]

I guess Im a little insane but show me someone on this server that isnt :)

[Hitchens]

I guess Im a little insane but show me someone on this server that isnt :)


Naez.

[Harazzer]

Yea Knix thought BDA becomming too hardcore and elitist with addition of VD and other apps, therefore joins TMO. Flawless logic.

[Silentone]

Yea Knix thought BDA becomming too hardcore and elitist with addition of VD and other apps, therefore joins TMO. Flawless logic.

we aren't elitist, honest you should come hang out with us find out for yourself.

[Harrison]

They invite anyone. Literally anyone, they took in Xosire, the worst player this server has ever seen.

[yaaaflow]

Literally. They even had Harrison as a guild member.

[Nietche]

Yea Knix thought BDA becomming too hardcore and elitist with addition of VD and other apps, therefore joins TMO. Flawless logic.

TMO is not elitist. No one who has ever spent quality time with TMO, in or outside the guild, would say so. When I first started grouping with TMO, I always got the nicest people in the world in my groups. Try it sometime.

P.S. Stop the blind hate.

[Alarti0001]

Literally. They even had Harrison as a guild member.

In fairness we only took harrison(finawin) because is brother was in the guild and we like to keep rl friends and family together.

however, we denied hasbinbad, but we did have bearnuts, and that one DE female cleric who was annoying as shit too..... cant remember her name.

[Danyelle]

TMO is not elitist. No one who has ever spent quality time with TMO, in or outside the guild, would say so. When I first started grouping with TMO, I always got the nicest people in the world in my groups. Try it sometime.

P.S. Stop the blind hate.

Honestly I gotta agree with this. They've always been very nice when I've interacted with them etc. Helped me several times. I can't see why I would be a special case, can only imagine they're like that with most everybody. They just troll on the forums. Not the greatest thing to solidify a reputation with but *shrug*.

[Artah]

Honestly I gotta agree with this. They've always been very nice when I've interacted with them etc. Helped me several times. I can't see why I would be a special case, can only imagine they're like that with most everybody. They just troll on the forums. Not the greatest thing to solidify a reputation with but *shrug*.

But trolling is fun, how else is someone going to get through their day without a dose of RnF?

[Alarti0001]

Honestly I gotta agree with this. They've always been very nice when I've interacted with them etc. Helped me several times. I can't see why I would be a special case, can only imagine they're like that with most everybody. They just troll on the forums. Not the greatest thing to solidify a reputation with but *shrug*.

You are just a special case.

! Stop hurting our street cred!

[Autotune]

You are just a special case.

! Stop hurting our street cred!

[Silentone]

We eat babies

[Hollywood]

You know what I learned from this thread..

That Game Masters and server administrators seem to be around an awful lot when there's a raid going on involving 5% of the population.

But when the servers go down and 100% of the population is screwed, we have to wait several hours for a fix.

No matter what guild we're in, we get massive priority and attention while all the other small guilds and players just want to simply play the game.

We fight over some stupid shit that's not even real.

[Paumad]

You have to realize only Rogean can bring the server up or down. He doesn't deal with players disputes.

While I agree raid disputes are eating at the time Guides and GMs could spend on anything else, I'm pretty sure it doesn't represent that much of a sink.
If what you're trying to say is that people are retarded because they prefer using /petition and rnf as an inter guild media channel because they crave drama and e-blood over simply trying to work things out between themselves (be it by talking or training each other till kingdom come) . Then yeah, pretty much spot on.

[Harazzer]

You know what I learned from this thread..

That Game Masters and server administrators seem to be around an awful lot when there's a raid going on involving 5% of the population.

But when the servers go down and 100% of the population is screwed, we have to wait several hours for a fix.

No matter what guild we're in, we get massive priority and attention while all the other small guilds and players just want to simply play the game.

We fight over some stupid shit that's not even real.

Hey you can level in any game, this is their last shot to be fires of heaven. Shit is serious.

[Daliant17447]

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[Smyd]

Fun fact Visage and Feachie post from the same IP address

lol, this answers a lot really... thought, we all knew this subconsciously

[PhuckTMO]

i will gladly shake all TMO babies, to give the love, affection and care they deserve and desire..since they parents too busy fuckin n suckin dragons n whorein theyselves out for that 10+ year loot! spread it for the rest of us u nerdy jerks

[Joroz]

TMO is not elitist. No one who has ever spent quality time with TMO, in or outside the guild, would say so. When I first started grouping with TMO, I always got the nicest people in the world in my groups. Try it sometime.

P.S. Stop the blind hate.

I wouldn't call it blind hate... for the most part they got friendly people, but the perception/reputation of the guild that people think of comes from a few shitbags that constantly stir up trouble. That somehow relates a couple of shitbags to an entire guild of shitbags... when thats not really true.

[knix]

I wouldn't call it blind hate...

I would ,

I was amazed while hearing the griefing (live in vent) that 3 or 4 IB did on 6/29 12:01am to the few TMO that zoned in, and How TMO handled it in vent, I was impressed with how calm and cool and I was kind of shocked how TMO leaders just accepted this atrocious behavior of being deliberately trained by the 3 or 4 IB, it was as if being trained on purpose by IB in VP was just part of the VP experience. Yes I understand that VP is a no-gm assistant zone, but I thought it was at least play fair zone, not deliberate repeated training by Getsome and a few other IB.

.....and in the Video of Draco falling under the earth, is that Slydexx or Sanluen running to the fight in the pink robe. If it's Sanluen what happened to Arconis?

[knix]

nm on my question about Sanluen and Slydexx, i see later it looks like Slydexx :)

[Autotune]

VP was turned into an outlet for anger. It was nice, bluebie PvP at it's best.

A good way to resolve issues without having to worry about someone calling Mommy in to kiss their booboos and yell "no-no's" at the big bad bully.

[Autotune]

Then you probably never got your char camped by 25 popped wurms ^^

But do you even understand what I am saying ?

man, that was just love.

[Greegon]

WRU SEMANTICS???

^^^ You don't want to see real semantics trust me

[Autotune]

I'm still all over your home page lol.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHxJU7QbmvgpOZWcDdl2v-5_H7sKxgiJnDbJ-r66oa_PQAKX9tKr_LsMV70Q

A tribute to our love for you.

[sanluen]

.....and in the Video of Draco falling under the earth, is that Slydexx or Sanluen running to the fight in the pink robe. If it's Sanluen what happened to Arconis?

That would be Slydexx I believe. Not sure how important it is anyway since like 20 people have my account info.

[Paumad]

I'm still all over your home page lol.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHxJU7QbmvgpOZWcDdl2v-5_H7sKxgiJnDbJ-r66oa_PQAKX9tKr_LsMV70Q

You have single handedly griefed our homepage updater off of the game. For that we will forever hate you.

[BigSlip]

But do you even understand what I am saying ?



lenfer worst eq player behind cast

[Joroz]

I would ,

I was amazed while hearing the griefing (live in vent) that 3 or 4 IB did on 6/29 12:01am to the few TMO that zoned in, and How TMO handled it in vent, I was impressed with how calm and cool and I was kind of shocked how TMO leaders just accepted this atrocious behavior of being deliberately trained by the 3 or 4 IB, it was as if being trained on purpose by IB in VP was just part of the VP experience. Yes I understand that VP is a no-gm assistant zone, but I thought it was at least play fair zone, not deliberate repeated training by Getsome and a few other IB.

.....and in the Video of Draco falling under the earth, is that Slydexx or Sanluen running to the fight in the pink robe. If it's Sanluen what happened to Arconis?

You are definitely entitled to your opinion's, just as people relate the shitbags to the whole guild you relate everyone to the people they are around. Sounds like someone has their own blind hate issues. When the tmo's raid suspension was up, the pick up raid left because it was about to be trained by the tmo train team (aka ..."the few TMO that zoned in"). It sounds like it didn't go their way whatever ib did to them and they didn't want to spend the time or effort to get a few pieces of gear for a few new app's.

[getsome]

I would ,

I was amazed while hearing the griefing (live in vent) that 3 or 4 IB did on 6/29 12:01am to the few TMO that zoned in, and How TMO handled it in vent, I was impressed with how calm and cool and I was kind of shocked how TMO leaders just accepted this atrocious behavior of being deliberately trained by the 3 or 4 IB, it was as if being trained on purpose by IB in VP was just part of the VP experience. Yes I understand that VP is a no-gm assistant zone, but I thought it was at least play fair zone, not deliberate repeated training by Getsome and a few other IB.


Knix, put down the kool-aid. I love how you were shocked, and we behaved atrocious. Yet who zoned into VP @ 12:00:01


First off, I do not deserve that much credit. Adriana is the rock star. I am a cleric and can not really kill people as effectively as a FD class.

Secondly no griefing occurred that evening. I attempted to offer my resurrection services to TMO dead that night. My offer was not accepted and / or ignored.

[Fri Jun 29 01:33:55 2012] You say, 'if u ooc, IB we had enough for one night, i will rez em up and leave'
[Fri Jun 29 01:34:14 2012] Sentenza says, 'lol'
[Fri Jun 29 01:37:49 2012] You say, 'aside from dieing i have not left vp in two weeks, i am tired'

I am sure everyone who was zoned into VP @ midnight knew what was gonna happen. I had a PuG raid inside VP just minutes beforehand. TMO went on to raid Sky that night. So unless you gonna tell me TMO is low on plat and needs to use the Phara Dar portal to get to Sky. It is not rocket science as to why some individuals decided to enter VP after midnight.

lastly it was all in good fun.

Highlights of my night:

[Thu Jun 28 19:27:44 2012] Zeelot tells you, 'Good luck tonight sir! Hope you're still in there at midnight <3'

[Thu Jun 28 19:40:25 2012] You told Zeelot, 'if u want to join my pug raid, i would really enjoy that'

[Thu Jun 28 23:50:08 2012] You told zeelot, 'so can i get another shot at nexonna'
[Thu Jun 28 23:50:08 2012] Zeelot tells you, 'AFK Message: brb!!!'


[Fri Jun 29 00:00:00 2012] Shamewow says, '000000000'



[Fri Jun 29 00:12:12 2012] You say, 'want to co raid, seems u all light on numbers'

[Fri Jun 29 00:12:29 2012] Loke says out of character, 'I read you guys were giving away Bo staves'
[Fri Jun 29 00:12:33 2012] Loke says out of character, 'I'm here to claim my prize ;x'
[Fri Jun 29 00:12:48 2012] Sentenza says out of character, 'i'll give you one if you beat jeremy in botb baub'
[Fri Jun 29 00:12:51 2012] Sentenza says out of character, 'i know you can'


[Fri Jun 29 00:30:34 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:34 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:35 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:35 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:35 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:36 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:37 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:37 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:37 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:37 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:37 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:37 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:38 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:38 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:38 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:38 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:38 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:38 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:39 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:39 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'
[Fri Jun 29 00:30:39 2012] You say, 'Hail, Loly's corpse'

[Fri Jun 29 00:33:04 2012] Loke says out of character, 'personally'
[Fri Jun 29 00:33:11 2012] Loke says out of character, 'i would have just shelled out the plat for a sky stone'
[Fri Jun 29 00:33:24 2012] Zeelot says out of character, 'we wanted to pay you folks a visit'
[Fri Jun 29 00:34:06 2012] Loke says out of character, 'so thoughtful <3'


[Fri Jun 29 01:12:40 2012] Zeelot says, 'Hail, Desmo's corpse'

[Fri Jun 29 01:24:19 2012] You say, 'wts sell EE'
[Fri Jun 29 01:24:37 2012] Darkdeath says, 'still got 63 more i'm good'


[Fri Jun 29 01:29:50 2012] You say, 'u all want to call it a night, i gotta go to sleep'

[Fri Jun 29 02:01:07 2012] Silentone says, 'i dont get whats going on I thought we had a rotation going on with IB'

[Fri Jun 29 02:07:18 2012] Silentone says, 'this is more fun then raiding on AK ..i promiss '

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[Silentone]

not trying to shift your mr nice guy act here but.. are u telling me eabon zoned into VP to grief you? lol

[JenJen]

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[JenJen]

wow this "knix" character sounds like a whiny little whinster.

[Harazzer]

Just a brainwashed tmo sycophant with no perspective on reality.

[knix]

wow this "knix" character sounds like a whiny little whinster.

I love your Avatar JenJen.