WTB: Content

[jdklaw]

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[Brewdus]

Holla holla holla!

[Dullah]

We needs kunark. Lets get pos in so we can move to kunark.

[lethdar]

Yes, release another continent so that the servers density will drop in half. That'll surely result in positive and good change.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I agree, its been long enough.

[hagard]

Yes, release another continent so that the servers density will drop in half. That'll surely result in positive and good change.

So true yet Kunark sounds soo good =|

[swagdaddy]

Current population: 32 players online.
The server is finished beyond belief. The only reason those 32 people are playing is because they have no where else to go or they just didn't want to make all that time they poured into their character go to waste.

[nilbog]

Need more people. Or.. less content.

hateplane and soltemple were released just last patch. Has it been farmed up already? With little competition, maybe it has. :T

[Mornin3.0]

Yes it has nilbog.. and within a month of kunark that will be too... only people calling for content are bluebies that don't want a healthy server, they just want to farm pixels in peace... pop way too low for new content... make changes to raise pop then talk content...

[hagard]

Need more people. Or.. less content.

hateplane and soltemple were released just last patch. Has it been farmed up already? With little competition, maybe it has. :T

all these dillusionals think kunark gonna boost pop big time

[gloinz]

pvp champ 5 point plan

point one

boost xp

point 2-5 are irrelevent

[surf3001x]

all these dillusionals think kunark gonna boost pop big time

Your ideas are obviously helping the server population right now.

Can the few of us remaining on here even be informed in what direction the server is heading?

Do GMs exist?

[hijinks]

dont see why releasing kunark would be a bad thing, seriously.. even the most dedicated get bored of classic 7 months later, you could only goto the same zones so many times.. I disagree, kunark will bring a lot of people back.. more than any tweak you can do the current content/system -- if just for the grind to 60, it'll bring back a lot of the 50s that quit and a lot of potential players from blue who won't play red because its just boring ass classic.

[heartbrand]

biggest issue beyond EXP, which is the current hugest barrier to new players on a barren server, is the lack of competition at the top due to the nihilum zerg. more content will not fix this. it's funny tho, the zerg isn't just bad for the rest of the pop, it's bad for nihilum as well because it leads to such quick burnout amongst it's members who get geared up quickly and realize now there's nothing left to do.

if there was some sort of fix to EXP whether it be a temporary bonus, a grouping bonus, hot zones, whatever it may be, that would be a good first step as it would provide a larger recruiting grounds for the end game, thereby creating more competition.

tl;dr: exp remains the biggest issue on this server

[hijinks]

biggest issue beyond EXP, which is the current hugest barrier to new players on a barren server, is the lack of competition at the top due to the nihilum zerg. more content will not fix this. it's funny tho, the zerg isn't just bad for the rest of the pop, it's bad for nihilum as well because it leads to such quick burnout amongst it's members who get geared up quickly and realize now there's nothing left to do.

if there was some sort of fix to EXP whether it be a temporary bonus, a grouping bonus, hot zones, whatever it may be, that would be a good first step as it would provide a larger recruiting grounds for the end game, thereby creating more competition.

tl;dr: exp remains the biggest issue on this server

At this point you're just talking about making the game easy for people and catering to the lazy. There is no reason why 7 months into release people should not be 50, or close. Only thing I would agree is perhaps an exp bonus for melee classes as opposed to a penalty, but any caster should be 50 with even the most casual of schedules. It's not an excuse anymore 7 months into the server.

[swagdaddy]

pvp champ 5 point plan

point one

boost xp

point 2-5 are irrelevent

You can't go wrong with the pvp champ. His word is law and swaggerish.

[heartbrand]

While I agree that it's not difficult to level up a caster to 50, a lot of people were initially here for PVP. When they come and see a barren server that has <30 people unless a dragon is up, they feel no motivation to continue on with the grind. Why should they? So they can join Nihilum a month from now, get geared up in two weeks and quit? Some sort of bonus, in whatever form it may be, would hopefully bring a "second wave" of people, that you could group with (this is meant to be a social game after all), PVP against etc, rather than AFK exp every 6 minutes as the only person in your zone.

Imagine how much more fun this server would be with three equally sized guilds at the top competing amongst one another with nightly PVP. That won't ever happen unless something is done to bring more people to this server. Maybe make the EXP bonus temporary, anything, who really cares at this point tbh? The arguments about it delegitimizing the efforts of the current Level 50's fall on deaf ears when the nightly pop is consistently below 40.

[Lucky]

At this point you're just talking about making the game easy for people and catering to the lazy. There is no reason why 7 months into release people should not be 50, or close. Only thing I would agree is perhaps an exp bonus for melee classes as opposed to a penalty, but any caster should be 50 with even the most casual of schedules. It's not an excuse anymore 7 months into the server.

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[swagdaddy]

I think the problem is that the whole server is just one entire guild ganking up on that single person that logs in everyday. Unless another rival guild appears that challenges this guild the server is pretty much dead. I say wipe the server clean and do a full system restart.

[Dullah]

Need more people. Or.. less content.

hateplane and soltemple were released just last patch. Has it been farmed up already? With little competition, maybe it has. :T

Its not a matter of it being farmed up, though yes, most of the dominant guild is fully equipped from fear/hate. We have our alts in planar, but only the 7 day respawn is constraining us from having all the godlewts we need.

Fact is, classic has been played out. Everyone has done it to death on multiple character here, on blue, on other emus and on live. It just doesn't draw the crowds. When the server was promised to be accelerated, many people thought they'd be able to stick it out till kunark where the big fun is, but slowly and surely things are dying out.

Anyone who thinks kunark wouldn't triple our pop is a moron.

[Maze]

Need more people.T

agreed

[Maze]

Considering I just grinded thru hardcore boosted exp woulda kinda make me mad, but then i would get over it when I wasnt forever alone on the server.

BOOST EXP PLEASE

[Mornin3.0]

Box dead. Nothing but exp can maybe save it... kunark would be cool two weeks then same dead box.. gg project manager doesn't even post on forums but once every three weeks.

[nilbog]

Box dead. Nothing but exp can maybe save it... kunark would be cool two weeks then same dead box.. gg project manager doesn't even post on forums but once every three weeks.

K, good luck.

[hagard]

Your ideas

wut ideas

[Ames_High_King_Gaddafi]

K, good luck.

fire rogean big goblin

[Dullah]

K, good luck.

Nilbog don't worry about dickhead trolls. Lot of guys like him mad cause their guild got griefed off the server.

Also, since you're around, can i get am item reimbursement I've had on the forums for a while?

[EQtrader]

lol same here big rogean is only one who can do it, I have waited for 2 months now, 40 bumps over 100+ views, 20 PM's to rogean, and 3 amelinda threats to be banned for asking about.. hop in line

[jdklaw]

Yes, release another continent so that the servers density will drop in half. That'll surely result in positive and good change.

your not even playing, you traded for a blue account so i dont know why you think you have any say...

Kunark will bring back all the blue server that quit because they already sat through x amount of months of classic and why go backwards?

Yes it has nilbog.. and within a month of kunark that will be too... only people calling for content are bluebies that don't want a healthy server, they just want to farm pixels in peace... pop way too low for new content... make changes to raise pop then talk content...

your anger never seems to suprise me...

1) kunark cannot be farmed in a month

2) not only bluebies want it, and Nihilum also want a healthy server, stop crying out of your ass

3) Nagafen is the only content being fought over, and FF can't even take it down... you guys need kunark pixels more than anyone

4) pop will boost with kunark stop asking for insta lvl 50

pvp champ 5 point plan

point one

boost xp

point 2-5 are irrelevent

your a good guy, i enjoy your heart and your spirit, but fuck man this isnt WoW...

Are you friendless? Can't you ask for a PL?

biggest issue beyond EXP, which is the current hugest barrier to new players on a barren server, is the lack of competition at the top due to the nihilum zerg. more content will not fix this. it's funny tho, the zerg isn't just bad for the rest of the pop, it's bad for nihilum as well because it leads to such quick burnout amongst it's members who get geared up quickly and realize now there's nothing left to do.

if there was some sort of fix to EXP whether it be a temporary bonus, a grouping bonus, hot zones, whatever it may be, that would be a good first step as it would provide a larger recruiting grounds for the end game, thereby creating more competition.

tl;dr: exp remains the biggest issue on this server

You keep calling Nihilum a zerg force thats bad for the server, but FF have been fielding equal to greater than numbers in the last week of Nagafen fights, zone has been 20/20 - 25/25, not sure what this argument is being used for??? Mad?

You keep claiming exp is an issue, I have several alts, and no they are not all twinks. I have no issues with exp, even as a melee having to group and/or solo. Its fun and is what I want because its nostalgic and true to classic (I know not everything is classic stop /crying). Current xp boost is nice, Hybrid xp removal should be considered before any other % boosts.

We are tired of being uncontested. The last week was the funnest most of us have had on this server so far because FF was batphoning to contest Naggy. However, even when you won, you couldn't kill Naggy /boohoo.

There is already a grouping bonus in EQ; Good Job!!
There are already hotzones in EQ; Good Job!!


Box dead. Nothing but exp can maybe save it... kunark would be cool two weeks then same dead box.. gg project manager doesn't even post on forums but once every three weeks.

/frowny face wants to play WoW so he can reroll and be 50 in a matter of days

[hagard]

^ working as intended population 40 gg

[Dullah]

lol same here big rogean is only one who can do it, I have waited for 2 months now, 40 bumps over 100+ views, 20 PM's to rogean, and 3 amelinda threats to be banned for asking about.. hop in line

Only 2 months?

pssh

[EQtrader]

You guys that like this grind and time it takes.. I mean not here for the pvp.. you guys do see that if something happened to rogean.. the server would be left all alone, who is going to turn it on? Who is going to fix it? Do you think if something happened to rogean the main priority for any of his family members would be make sure the eq nerds server is working? Do you think any of the other project members are going to drive out to his house and make sure server is ok? I mean this is a emu server in the end and free. Everything could be gone tomorrow. Why not boost xp? and add things that would make sever fun

[hagard]

Why not boost xp? and add things that would make sever fun

because they all bought stock in poopsocks

[hagard]

pvp champ 5 point plan

point one

boost xp

point 2-5 are irrelevent

Gloinz know his shit
Blubies enjoy killing 50000 kobolds to lvl not real pvp champs

[Maze]

PLEASEEEEEEE BOOST EXP

I don't need it but I just want other people to play with.

With all due respect, fuck classic it doesn't work ~obv.

[Jabber]

Yes, release another continent so that the servers density will drop in half. That'll surely result in positive and good change.
True
Need more people. Or.. less content

true
All the blues are dum

BOOST EXP

I don't need it but I just want other people to play with.

With all due respect, fuck classic it doesn't work ~obv.
More truth

[jdklaw]

several bandwagon crybabies calling for xp boost here...

you call everyone else a bluebie, but your the scrubs that are scared of leveling with PvP...

gj bluebies, ask for more instant 5 see how it works out

[Maze]

Quit being a fgt, I dont have a problem leveling at all (35 after a week).

Just want more then 32 people (20 in your guild) on at a time, is that so wrong?

Barrier of entry here is rediculously high for new players, not fault of the dev's just the way things played out.

Need dat antidote.

[EQtrader]

boost xp does not mean instant 50.. are you crazy? thats how I know you are a true blue. Nobody wants to poopsock anymore. When we were kids yea.. but now we are older we want pvp.. mark my words, Anyone can say anything about server being dead or the reason people leaving, IT IS BECAUSE OF EXP/GRIND.

[Ames_High_King_Gaddafi]

Boost the XP to make it so that casual players can actually approach this game and that people that came here to PVP on a fucking PVP server can experience what they came for.




Boosting XP = Population gains

Simple as that bro's.

[jdklaw]

exp boost wont bring shit back; theres alrdy a scaled % boosts 100% at lvl 1 - 0% at lvl 50; how many did it add?

If anyone actually wanted a healthy server and to bring pop up; they would stop saying the sky is falling and shitting all over the threads.

[EQtrader]

lol jdklaw you are a joke man. that exp boost was a joke. Do you not get it?? no one is playing because they don't want to fucking kill mobs all day for one level. They want to grind quick and PVP. Its pretty fucking obvious.. The person who works 40 hours a week has saturday and sunday off. You might get a hour in at night, or even a couple during the weekend. If you have a family or kids and a wife good luck getting on for more then that. EXP boost would instantly bring the person like that back.

[Ames_High_King_Gaddafi]

Why not approach this problem like a normal company and see what your customer/consumer/playerbase wants to see in the form of a poll or survey. If 80% of the pop wants an XP boost why would you guys not implement it? The "classic" argument has been dead in the water for months.. accept that changes need to be made and apply them.

Making a poll to see what the players want then implementing the results is not rocket science. If i thought of it then it must of crossed your mind already Nilbog because you are much more intelligent then myself. So why the fuck are yall not doing it?

[Maze]

100$ donation upon pop breaking 200 confirmed.

[Ames_High_King_Gaddafi]

exp boost wont bring shit back; theres alrdy a scaled % boosts 100% at lvl 1 - 0% at lvl 50; how many did it add?

If anyone actually wanted a healthy server and to bring pop up; they would stop saying the sky is falling and shitting all over the threads.

The XP is still terrible. It still takes an obscene /played time to reach max level. I know you aint that dumb to see how insignificant the boost was.

[EQtrader]

I see it like this.. more population = more donations. Clearly your guys money has to be getting lower since over 500+ have left server.

[Ames_High_King_Gaddafi]

They cant legally profit from donations. They would get shut down pretty quickly.. as much as I hate rogean for ignoring the community he deff does not pocket shit from this server. Wouldn't you move the fuck out of Massachusetts if you had some money? Exactly.

[Maze]

Back on track

PLEASEEEEEEE BOOST EXP

I don't need it but I just want other people to play with.

With all due respect, fuck classic it doesn't work ~obv.

[hagard]

Can't you ask for a PL?
You keep claiming exp is an issue, I have several alts, and no they are not all twinks. I have no issues with exp, even as a melee


Xp wouldn't be an issue with pl, so with that said, PL ME FUK

[Tr0llb0rn]

FACT: twice the server xp was "boosted" , once at the end of last year and one a couple patches ago.

The server saw its two biggest drops in population at that time.

"fast xp" is not the issue. If you want fast xp, try WoW.

As for boosting the server population: only Kunark will do that at this point. it is what it is. Oh, and the community can help by being helpful and welcoming to new players.

The End.

[Maze]

Yeah 30 players spread thru classic and kunark, instead of 2 zones per person we'll have 4 sounds great.

BOOST EXP ALOT plz god

[jdklaw]

Why not approach this problem like a normal company and see what your customer/consumer/playerbase wants to see in the form of a poll or survey. If 80% of the pop wants an XP boost why would you guys not implement it? The "classic" argument has been dead in the water for months.. accept that changes need to be made and apply them.

Making a poll to see what the players want then implementing the results is not rocket science. If i thought of it then it must of crossed your mind already Nilbog because you are much more intelligent then myself. So why the fuck are yall not doing it?

this is the approach that Blizzard and every other fail MMO took... They aimed to please the majority which made the game ez mode instant gratification.

Is that what your asking for? A mainstream EQ experience?

[Wolfgang]

I dont even know what end game content kunark I just want better leveling zones and iksars

[Maze]

Yeah 30 players spread thru classic and kunark, instead of 2 zones per person we'll have 4 sounds great.

BOOST EXP ALOT plz god

[EQtrader]

lets take advice from maze, biggest bluebie of all, hows that trading blue plat for red plat going

[Maze]

idk who "eqtrader" is although he sounds upset

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

lets take advice from maze, biggest bluebie of all, hows that trading blue plat for red plat going

This player is banned from blue for cheating, look at this hypocrite.

[swagdaddy]

This player is banned from blue for cheating, look at this hypocrite.

More than half the people on red cheat, not a big deal at this point. It's just a common thing for baddies to do.

[EQtrader]

maze dont know what to say.. hey im trading red plat for blue ahahaha maze = bluebie comes to server only 5 months to late after 500+ quit

[Maze]

idk who "eqtrader" is although he sounds upset


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swag

[heartbrand]

The funny part is you both are actually agreeing in this tread but too dumb to realize it

[nabsev]

lol jdklaw you are a joke man. that exp boost was a joke. Do you not get it?? no one is playing because they don't want to fucking kill mobs all day for one level. They want to grind quick and PVP. Its pretty fucking obvious.. The person who works 40 hours a week has saturday and sunday off. You might get a hour in at night, or even a couple during the weekend. If you have a family or kids and a wife good luck getting on for more then that. EXP boost would instantly bring the person like that back.

skimmed thread but pretty much this

[Nirgon]

Yeah Kunark before plane of sky etc etc

Real classic boys.

Fix resists in PvP then move forward.

[heartbrand]

Logged on for first time since Friday to see 28 people on, 12 in nihilum including a newly absorbed guild, meow, and a couple of brotherhood newbies. Server health all time high bros.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

Come to EQ server

Cry that you have to grind in EQ

Geniuses.

[Wolfgang]

brotherhood goin to end up on top.

[Nirgon]

Get PvP'd on PvP server Beta with +1,000% xp -> quit before live.

Genius.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

Exploit nagafen
Cry because banned and D D D D DELETED

[Wolfgang]

who the fuck cares about sky. need dat iksar.

[Nirgon]

Sorry my whistle's clean, was not involved in any exploitation of Nagafen =)

Maybe if some people weren't busy following Gongshow around all day hoping to pin a train on him, some real justice could have been brought to this sad box.

Gongshow confirmed clean whistle. Box confirmed under 40 pop. Nothing of value lost.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

You were in hololost. You condoned exploits. You're terrible at EQ.

/who holocaust

[Nirgon]

You were guilded with Abacab, lols.

Pot calling the kettle an N word here.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

Beta was srs bsns, right?

You quite literally played with an entire guild of cheating lowlifes. You're no better than Nihilum.

[hijinks]

Box has been dead since mid Feb, early March... is what it is at the point, but if the dev team even cares about the box health anymore, then they should be seriously considering releasing Kunark or if you're going to ride out classic for another 3-4 months at least implement some of the ideas like YT, Leaderboards, etc otherwise just pull the plug on it.. box is literally on life support atm, it won't start to breathe on its own until the hard headed devs decide to invest time into making this the best PvP server instead of just a blue99 port with PvP flag = 1

[Nirgon]

Bitched about your death for more than a week before ragequitting another server over some dumb shit.

Guess that makes it srs bsns in your book lewl. But I digress, the bluebies make fun of you best, gotta hand it to 'em.

[Maze]

implement some of the ideas like YT, Leaderboards making this the best PvP server instead of just a blue99 port with PvP flag = 1

Good ideas, also BOOST EXP FOR CASUALS.

That is all.

[heartbrand]

Hijinx, in all fairness this server could've been fun if you and everyone else didn't join the Zerg. I don't get the hardcore pvpers who joined nihilum then complain about the lack of PVP. Im not disagreeing with your other points, leaderboard/yt/content/dev attention all needed.

[Nirgon]

Stop blaming the player base :P

[heartbrand]

If there were two or even three guilds battling at the top on a nightly basis the tone on these boards would be a lot different. Yes, some of the reason that isn't happening is due to dev mistakes, whether it be through inaction or poor action, but it would be a mistake to ignore the fact that a substantial % of this server were/are blue refugees looking for a blue 2.0 paradise, happy and comfortable with farming a solo dead box.

[Maze]

fact is that 80% of this server were/are blue refugees looking for a blue 2.0 paradise, happy and comfortable with farming a solo dead box.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

Bitched about your death for more than a week before ragequitting another server over some dumb shit.

Guess that makes it srs bsns in your book lewl. But I digress, the bluebies make fun of you best, gotta hand it to 'em.

I was never killed.

If there were two or even three guilds battling at the top on a nightly basis the tone on these boards would be a lot different. Yes, some of the reason that isn't happening is due to dev mistakes, whether it be through inaction or poor action, but it would be a mistake to ignore the fact that a substantial % of this server were/are blue refugees looking for a blue 2.0 paradise, happy and comfortable with farming a solo dead box.

Griefed off of a pvp server by bluebies. Hololost.

[heartbrand]

Have played since release, still playing, white knight never suspended or banned, thanks.

[Sektor]

I love ya Rett but I disagree with you an xp bonus will bring a lot of people back, including a bunch of people I brought with me when I first came here.

I work between 38-42 hours a week, currently been with the same girl for almost four years, I'm not 15 years old anymore where I could play the game 10+ hours a day. Only reason why I got 50 was Saidin and Shocker basically helped me level through my 40's and I was a druid none of the less.

Some people just don't have the time, or if they do it will take them maybe 6+ Months to get 50. (If they stick with it)

Adding more xp bonus wont even come close to being like wow, this game is pretty hard when it comes to leveling, unless you have tons of time.

[Maze]

sektor right

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

Come to Classic EQ server
Complain about experience in Classic EQ

The server shouldn't change because you don't have the time. You're just going to have to deal with having low playtime, like people did on live. They didn't change experience rates on live because you were busy. Entitled whiny pussies lol

[heartbrand]

Talks about classic EQ on a server with custom resists, non-nerfed mistwalker, charm pets, paineel and non-nerfed call of bones mask, planar armor dropping before hate, blue diamond gear in game, mage swords, red wand exploitation, visible mana, no spell book for medding, AC not effecting melee pvp, ice comet, fear not working pvp, etc. etc.

[Sektor]

Come to Classic EQ server
Complain about experience in Classic EQ

The server shouldn't change because you don't have the time. You're just going to have to deal with having low playtime, like people did on live. They didn't change experience rates on live because you were busy. Entitled whiny pussies lol



I'm fine with it, I would just like to bring more people here.

[Wolfgang]

harri i gotta tell ya, i didnt come here to grind xp. classic or not its the truth. when i think of classic eq i dont think of grinding to 50, camping shit, ect, i think of pvp, grouping, wiping, falling asleep at they keyboard, griefing, training, lfg, cr, ect. but mostly i remember the social aspect. if classic eq is about pixels and grinding then classic can smd. im here for pals and pvp.

[Mornin3.0]

K, good luck.

bout the reaction to expect from these project managers.... I have put a lot of time into this box and to be quite frank I was expecting more interaction from the devs.. Since your in charge and you can pull the plug on my enjoyment any time you want, i have to watch my tongue.. but just maybe you could realize you would actually benefit from listening from someone like me or others in the community.. even if the truth isnt pretty or flattering...

[Wolfgang]

fuck correcting my post to make sense. itll never be classic because ill never prioritize eq over my family and RL. the eq kiddos arent kiddos no moar.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

90% of the shit you just cried about (again) is all not able to be changed. There are limitations because of the client EQemu uses and can't be changed, some things we simply have no records of before changes were made to them like paineel.

Exploits aren't valid reasons to complain because that is a USER originated problem. It's faggots like you and your guild who can be to blame for exploits, not the devs/server.

In closing, cry more. You have like 5 level 50s anyways. You need to go outside.

[Mornin3.0]

What the bluebie retards dont quite grasp is all the people wanting an exp bonus dont want it for their own benefit.... we are all 50 already retards... dont need to level anymore.. I would be in all favor of classic exp if the box could hold a good pop but it obviously cant.. I wouldnt even be in favor of a perm exp bonus.. just something drastic over a few months to help boost pop..if it fails.. server already has failed..

This server has so much potential being wasted but fixes not being fixed and devs (giving the impression that they are) ignoring the server are killing it.

Kunark would do nothing but bring back people that are already 50 for a few weeks until they quit again.. not a long term solution..

Never once has a hard headed power hungry Dev asked the population their opinion and then acted in a timely accordance... tho i do GREATLY APPRECIATE the free server... the waste of potential disappoints..

[Maze]

Put in beta exp, 40 people isnt fun.

[Ames_High_King_Gaddafi]

bout the reaction to expect from these project managers.... I have put a lot of time into this box and to be quite frank I was expecting more interaction from the devs.. Since your in charge and you can pull the plug on my enjoyment any time you want, i have to watch my tongue.. but just maybe you could realize you would actually benefit from listening from someone like me or others in the community.. even if the truth isnt pretty or flattering...

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[hagard]

Come to Classic EQ server
Complain about experience in Classic EQ

The server shouldn't change because you don't have the time. You're just going to have to deal with having low playtime, like people did on live. They didn't change experience rates on live because you were busy. Entitled whiny pussies lol

Xp was easy in classic because there was groups. 40 online primetime. . . Was 40 in most zones but I'm sure you are unable to comprehend that

[jdklaw]

If anyone actually wanted a healthy server and to bring pop up; they would stop saying the sky is falling and shitting all over the threads.

all of your bandwagoners sitting in a bathtub of tears are whats killing pop, not the devs

[hagard]

I love ya Rett but I disagree with you an xp bonus will bring a lot of people back, including a bunch of people I brought with me when I first came here.

I work between 38-42 hours a week, currently been with the same girl for almost four years, I'm not 15 years old anymore where I could play the game 10+ hours a day. Only reason why I got 50 was Saidin and Shocker basically helped me level through my 40's and I was a druid none of the less.

Some people just don't have the time, or if they do it will take them maybe 6+ Months to get 50. (If they stick with it)

Adding more xp bonus wont even come close to being like wow, this game is pretty hard when it comes to leveling, unless you have tons of time.

Spot on between work gf aggro and school can't grind like it's 19 99

[Dullah]

This is honestly a really simple situation, and no, changing exp mechanics in EQ doesn't fix anything as can be seen by the last exp patch.

This game is about progression. Some is done on your own, some require guilds.

Right now, the progression for casuals has been completely tapped out. Theres about 300-500 lvl 50 toons on this server fully decked in classic gear, with half of them being in planar. Theres nothing left to accomplish except for latecomers to join up for some casual raiding and pvp. Legacy is gone, so that was the last of the reasons to pvp outside of planes/dragons.

Kunark will give us months of leveling and grinding, not to mention months of raiding. That means a lot of pvp worthy stuff for quite a while. When was pvp best on r99? When the general population were competing over dungeons (solb/lguk). Now, its just left to the hardcore to fight over dragons while the rest of the casuals are stuck solo leveling, twiddling their thumbs playing other games, or forced to join a raiding guild.]

A bunch of nerds will talk about bluebie this and that - kunark wont do anything etc, but without progression, we don't have shit to pvp over. Notice how the people talking about bluebies are all in pvp gear that took 100s of hours to acquire... EQ is a game about personal advancement (pixels). If you're hardcore, go farm bg and arenas in wow or play a FPS. This is not that game.

In conclusion, please bring out sky to expedite kunark. Sky won't bring the masses, but it puts us closer to the promised land.

[swagdaddy]

Put in beta exp, 40 people isnt fun.

[Maze]

This is honestly a really simple situation, and no, changing exp mechanics in EQ doesn't fix anything as can be seen by the last exp patch.

This game is about progression. Some is done on your own, some require guilds.

Right now, the progression for casuals has been completely tapped out. Theres about 500 lvl 50 toons on this server fully decked in classic gear, with half of them being in planar. Theres nothing left to accomplish except for latecomers to join up for some casual raiding and pvp. Legacy is gone, so that was the last of the reasons to pvp outside of planes/dragons.

Kunark will give us months of leveling and grinding, not to mention months of raiding. That means a lot of pvp worthy stuff for quite a while. When was pvp best on r99? When the general population were competing over dungeons (solb/lguk). Now, its just left to the hardcore to fight over dragons while the rest of the casuals are stuck solo leveling, twiddling their thumbs playing other games, or forced to join a raiding guild.]

A bunch of nerds will talk about bluebie this and that - kunark wont do anything etc, but without progression, we don't have shit to pvp over. Notice how the people talking about bluebies are all in pvp gear that took 100s of hours to acquire... EQ is a game about personal advancement (pixels). If you're hardcore, go farm bg and arenas in wow or play a FPS. This is not that game.

In conclusion, please bring out sky to expedite kunark. Sky won't bring the masses, but it puts us closer to the promised land.

TLDR, beta exp 40 people isnt fun

[hagard]

40 people spread between Kunark and classic zones is def the fix to this epidemic

[swagdaddy]

No one is going to put time and effort to level a character with 40 people in it. Might as well give it some exp bonus. Also wipe the server clean get a fresh start.

[Dullah]

No one suggested to add content and lock the server down to only the 40 people presently playing. Theres hundreds of players who aren't playing now because they don't have shit to do and no one new can stand leveling by themselves in a game that requires a group.

Kunark fixes that, bring new peeps, brings back the old.

[Maze]

No one is going to put time and effort to level a character with 40 people in it. Might as well give it some exp bonus. Also wipe the server clean get a fresh start.

swagdaddy has spoken

also dullah on ignore for being obvious troll

[hagard]

Xp would bring back more than Kunark

[swagdaddy]

Xp would bring back more than Kunark

This.
Bring kunark, beta exp, and wipe it clean. When red99 first came out there was so much pvp I was ejaculating in my pants left and right. When I make a new char now it'll be a long time before I actually see pvp and it will also be a while before I get to that point.

[hagard]

This.
Bring kunark, beta exp, and wipe it clean. When red99 first came out there was so much pvp I was ejaculating in my pants left and right. When I make a new char now it'll be a long time before I actually see pvp and it will also be a while before I get to that point.

Can we be pals? ? ?

[swagdaddy]

Can we be pals? ? ?

swagout

[hagard]

$$

[Maze]

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k482/Phototurtle/Capture-1.png

[swagdaddy]

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k482/Phototurtle/Capture-1.png

you forgot to call him a swagdaddy to flatter him. now he'll never increase exp

[Wolfgang]

progression is my halfling foot up your ass

[swagdaddy]

progression is my halfling foot up your ass

dat hairy feet and leathery sole

[hagard]

What the bluebie retards dont quite grasp is all the people wanting an exp bonus dont want it for their own benefit.... we are all 50 already retards... dont need to level anymore.. I would be in all favor of classic exp if the box could hold a good pop but it obviously cant.. I wouldnt even be in favor of a perm exp bonus.. just something drastic over a few months to help boost pop..if it fails.. server already has failed..

This server has so much potential being wasted but fixes not being fixed and devs (giving the impression that they are) ignoring the server are killing it.

Kunark would do nothing but bring back people that are already 50 for a few weeks until they quit again.. not a long term solution..

Never once has a hard headed power hungry Dev asked the population their opinion and then acted in a timely accordance... tho i do GREATLY APPRECIATE the free server... the waste of potential disappoints..

Good post

[Maze]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=24456&dateline=1338093734
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=23462&dateline=1332556976
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=24290&dateline=1338078637
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=19707&dateline=1322695858
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=24381&dateline=1337531460

[heartbrand]

What the bluebie retards dont quite grasp is all the people wanting an exp bonus dont want it for their own benefit.... we are all 50 already retards... dont need to level anymore.. I would be in all favor of classic exp if the box could hold a good pop but it obviously cant.. I wouldnt even be in favor of a perm exp bonus.. just something drastic over a few months to help boost pop..if it fails.. server already has failed..

This server has so much potential being wasted but fixes not being fixed and devs (giving the impression that they are) ignoring the server are killing it.

Kunark would do nothing but bring back people that are already 50 for a few weeks until they quit again.. not a long term solution..

Never once has a hard headed power hungry Dev asked the population their opinion and then acted in a timely accordance... tho i do GREATLY APPRECIATE the free server... the waste of potential disappoints..

A+ post

[Toehammer]

lot of text lots of text lots of text When was pvp best on r99? When the general population were competing over dungeons (solb/lguk). more text

Some stuff you say makes sense, but everyone knows that the best PvP on the server was during the first two weeks... swagdaddy understands
When red99 first came out there was so much pvp I was ejaculating in my pants left and right. When I make a new char now it'll be a long time before I actually see pvp and it will also be a while before I get to that point.

I had never played EQ in PvP mode before Project 1999... pretty much only "PvP" games I ever played were Quake 2 CTF, Rainbow Six, Jedi Knight, etc back in junior high. But when EQ came out (Beta 1998) games changed for me. Inexplicable. Project 1999 reawakened that.

But then when Red99 hit, I thought, "holy shit this is completely different, and better!" The time for server success has come and gone. Guard assist, exploiting, and resists are the things that killed population. Server pop would still be >200 (maybe 300?) if guard assist was in plain and simple. The server's true chance for success has come and gone... a wipe 1-2 weeks in to fix things (guard assist, exploits, resists) but now it would just snuff the server out.

I love this server, and am depressed that more attention was not given by players during beta to ensure a stable fun community. Too many people were concerned about being secretive about exploits/other bugs so they could outlevel and "win" the server. The simple fact that people on here talk about "winning" an Everquest server shows that they are the reason the server, and they have "lost".

It is just realistic and depressing. Could wiping the server boost pop? No. Would exp boost pop? A little. Would Kunark? Temporarily. Could reopening a parallel server (guard assist, exploit free, better resists) with future merge increase population? I was convinced it would, but now am not so sure.

In my opinion, Nilbog is doing just the right thing... let server slowly pick up population or dwindle... a server's success is ultimately the players' responsibility. You want more people to play with, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. We screwed it up the moment nobody put in the time and effort to test these things during beta. I'll be riding the Red99 wave until the server goes down in a fiery death spiral!

[swagdaddy]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=24456&dateline=1338093734
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=23462&dateline=1332556976
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=24290&dateline=1338078637
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=19707&dateline=1322695858
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=24381&dateline=1337531460

oh god yes

[Aenor]

"I don't get the hardcore pvpers who joined nihilum then complain about the lack of PVP..."

I don't get that FF hasn't logged on since you PvP'd successfully for a shot at Naggy then failed on it. Log on. Let's PvP.

[Arclyte]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=24456&dateline=1338093734
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=23462&dateline=1332556976
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=24290&dateline=1338078637
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=19707&dateline=1322695858
http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=24381&dateline=1337531460

excuse me

[Maze]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=23424&dateline=1333414024

[Maze]

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k482/Phototurtle/Capture-1.png

[Dullah]

Why don't you spam troll harder and quote yourself again.

[Maze]

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k482/Phototurtle/Capture-2.png

Be gone awful troll who is against server and exp increase to save it, us white knights are discussing srsbzns

[jdklaw]

... a server's success is ultimately the players' responsibility. You want more people to play with, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. We screwed it up the moment nobody put in the time and effort to test these things during beta. I'll be riding the Red99 wave until the server goes down in a fiery death spiral!


If anyone actually wanted a healthy server and to bring pop up; they would stop saying the sky is falling and shitting all over the threads.

[EQtrader]

server already in a fiery death spiral.. sky is faling server dead

[Wolfgang]

im winning

[jdklaw]

server already in a fiery death spiral.. sky is faling server dead

ecoli right?

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

server already in a fiery death spiral.. sky is faling server dead

This player is banned from blue for cheating.

Can't handle EQ without cheating, so sad, so mad, so bad.

[Toehammer]

... a server's success is ultimately the players' responsibility. You want more people to play with, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. We screwed it up the moment nobody put in the time and effort to test these things during beta. I'll be riding the Red99 wave until the server goes down in a fiery death spiral!

If anyone actually wanted a healthy server and to bring pop up; they would stop saying the sky is falling and shitting all over the threads.

You honestly think that not pointing out problems will make them go away? /boggle, /shrug, /disagree I think you missed my whole point. I agree people posting obnoxious things about server being dead can be annoying... but it is the reality. I am trying to personally get people to join Red99. It is hard because server launched prematurely and people were too childish to test during Beta. But that ship has sailed. I am still having fun here, but the problem exists: Red99 is slowly dying. It will probably take months. I am a realist, although I wish I could bury my head in the sand sometimes. Is it fun? What does the world sound like with sand in your ears.I dunno if Red99 can be fixed, but there is nothing wrong with intelligently pointing out the problem. Instead, mouthbreathers like you read posts and nitpick the ONE sentence you don't like. People like you are dissuading people from playing.

[Arclyte]

How do you keep track of all the hackers harrison? Is it a .txt document or do you have a physical copy?

I'd guess physical. A sturdy book, or tome if you will, and I bet it's always in arm's reach wherever you go. (IE: to and from the deli and whatever dim hovel you post from)

[Dullah]

No need for it to happen.

Big things in kunark. Lots of bars to fill. Lots of skills to get. Pixels to farm and contest.

The propaganda that the server is dead because somethings wrong with the server is false. (Not saying things couldn't be improved upon)

People are bored, tired of waiting and have too many other entertainment options that are more appealing than classic content. It was the great, but only an intro to the heart of EQ. You can only beat the first level so many times.

Lets move this thing along. :)

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

How do you keep track of all the hackers harrison? Is it a .txt document or do you have a physical copy?

I'd guess physical. A sturdy book, or tome if you will, and I bet it's always in arm's reach wherever you go. (IE: to and from the deli and whatever dim hovel you post from)

Look at this mad kid typing paragraphs of rage.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

/who holocaust

[heartbrand]

No need for it to happen.

Big things in kunark. Lots of bars to fill. Lots of skills to get. Pixels to farm and contest.

The propaganda that the server is dead because somethings wrong with the server is false. (Not saying things couldn't be improved upon)

People are bored, tired of waiting and have too many other entertainment options that are more appealing than classic content. It was the great, but only an intro to the heart of EQ. You can only beat the first level so many times.

Lets move this thing along. :)

New player after new player continues to tell you they are leaving here or aren't coming because of exp but you continue acting as if kunark, which will bring back the 15 nihilum on the sidelines thus further killing any chance of competition, will save this server. You must be trolling.

[Maze]

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k482/Phototurtle/Capture-2.png

Be gone awful troll who is against server and exp increase to save it, us white knights are discussing srsbzns

[Tr0llb0rn]

No need for it to happen.

Big things in kunark. Lots of bars to fill. Lots of skills to get. Pixels to farm and contest.

The propaganda that the server is dead because somethings wrong with the server is false. (Not saying things couldn't be improved upon)

People are bored, tired of waiting and have too many other entertainment options that are more appealing than classic content. It was the great, but only an intro to the heart of EQ. You can only beat the first level so many times.

Lets move this thing along. :)

This is the post. Server is legit, classic, and being improved on every patch. Nothing wrong with it at all.

The people who are interested in the server long term are just waiting for more content. Truth is simple as that.

Then you have a gaggle of baffoons who want to change the server in ezserver. Not gonna happen. Invest in your character or GTFO. bye. lol@ people like Gloiin/Vile who has not broken level 30 in 7 months. Classic EQ is just NOT for you....

I very much hope Sky gets released this weekend, we need that out the way to pave the way for the next big thing, Kunark.

Kunark will have tons of people back. Tons of content to go through.

If you like Classic EQ and you think pvp within it makes the Classic EQ experience just that much more immersve, then this is the server for you.

If the answer is no to either of those two parts. Try WoW.

[heartbrand]

Above poster on ignore, I advise all those go care about the server to do the same, he is from nihilum and is likely spewing rhetoric against changes that will bring life to this server. You see, changes that could potentially revive this server are bad for them because it could create competition, they're here for an uninterrupted pixel farming fest so they can compare magelo's or something on a red server.

[Tr0llb0rn]

^^^ so so mad lol

Eyepatch and RBG dropped off vox last night (killed with 15 or so, sorry you failed with 30). I heard you were on your alt sending tells trying to buy both lol. So jealous, so bitter, so sad....

[jdklaw]

You honestly think that not pointing out problems will make them go away? /boggle, /shrug, /disagree I think you missed my whole point. I agree people posting obnoxious things about server being dead can be annoying... but it is the reality. I am trying to personally get people to join Red99. It is hard because server launched prematurely and people were too childish to test during Beta. But that ship has sailed. I am still having fun here, but the problem exists: Red99 is slowly dying. It will probably take months. I am a realist, although I wish I could bury my head in the sand sometimes. Is it fun? What does the world sound like with sand in your ears.I dunno if Red99 can be fixed, but there is nothing wrong with intelligently pointing out the problem. Instead, mouthbreathers like you read posts and nitpick the ONE sentence you don't like. People like you are dissuading people from playing.

I was actually reiterating what you posted; i completely agree with this:

...a server's success is ultimately the players' responsibility. You want more people to play with, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. We screwed it up the moment nobody put in the time and effort to test these things during beta.

[jdklaw]

Eyepatch and RBG dropped off vox last night (killed with 15 or so, sorry you failed with 30). I heard you were on your alt sending tells trying to buy both lol. So jealous, so bitter, so sad....

HB about to explode with anger; hes starting to ignore posters so he can continue to post his bs and pretend nobody challenges it

[nabsev]

Dullah lost touch with reality

[Massive Marc]

lol jdklaw you are a joke man. that exp boost was a joke. Do you not get it?? no one is playing because they don't want to fucking kill mobs all day for one level. They want to grind quick and PVP. Its pretty fucking obvious.. The person who works 40 hours a week has saturday and sunday off. You might get a hour in at night, or even a couple during the weekend. If you have a family or kids and a wife good luck getting on for more then that. EXP boost would instantly bring the person like that back.

This.

I played/play on blue and attempted to play on red99 when it was released. While I understand that complaining about exp translates into being weak or some bullshit like that, the above statement perfectly explains why I didn't continue to play on the server. I know some of you basement dwellers have disposable time, most of us just don't. I'd love to compete for pixels at dragons but I just can't invest the same amount of time as the high end players and I'm betting a lot of other players can't either.

I'm not sure what will help, but I believe the following factors are and will continue to plague this server:

Blue99: quite simply, people have already invest huge amounts of time to get their character where it's at, starting again can be hard for some people.

New Games: Diablo 3, Star Wars, Tera and Guild Wars on the horizon are opening up some options after the stale WoW era (which a lot of people came here to get away from)

End Game Content: Some people may call it fail MMO's(WoW etc), but there's a reason why millions played, people don't like getting cut off from content when they're playing a game. Call it carebare or whatever else but you guys are the ones with the server population of 9... (currently blue's issue as well)

EXP: See above, who the fuck wants to grind for a months on end so they can enjoy PVP and an attempt at end game content. WTF ?

Population: Most of you are scum, straight up. No one wants to play with hipster faggots that complain and bitch all day.

FWIW, I'd just enjoy what you have and hopefully people will come along, but I wouldn't count on it.


EDIT: Bitching about server population and then telling people to go play WoW seems counter productive.

[Lazortag]

This.

I played/play on blue and attempted to play on red99 when it was released. While I understand that complaining about exp translates into being weak or some bullshit like that, the above statement perfectly explains why I didn't continue to play on the server. I know some of you basement dwellers have disposable time, most of us just don't. I'd love to compete for pixels at dragons but I just can't invest the same amount of time as the high end players and I'm betting a lot of other players can't either.

I'm a full time student and when red99 was released I had very little time to spare. It just meant that it took longer for me to get to level 50. The game is still fun before you're level 50.

[Massive Marc]

I'm a full time student and when red99 was released I had very little time to spare. It just meant that it took longer for me to get to level 50. The game is still fun before you're level 50.

Maybe for you it is...but you're missing the point.

You and the other 30 people that play on this server are a small percentage (if any) of todays gamer. What you find fun, one million other players don't. Add that with the other issues I pointed out and you get a dead server.

EDIT: to be honest, I can't really think of any major changes (exp,content.etc) that would increase the population to acceptable numbers (not even sure what you guys would like for population) There's a good chance EQ is finally dying off.

[Vile]

I CALLED IT FUCKERS

[Wolfgang]

I CALLED IT FUCKERS

you knew Brotherhood going to win?

[Tr0llb0rn]

I'd love to compete for pixels at dragons but I just can't invest the same amount of time as the high end players.


Welcome to classic EQ, where everyone does not get a trophy. Try WoW if you want a server where "everyone wins!"

In classic EQ not everyone can be a "high end player", if they could then the title would not mean anything.

Can't you have fun just being a "low end player" and PvPing in crushbone and unrest?

If not, try WoW where everyone is a "winner".

Stop trying to wowify the ONLY classic red experience left on the planet.

Good day.

[Massive Marc]

Welcome to classic EQ, where everyone does not get a trophy. Try WoW if you want a server where "everyone wins!"

In classic EQ not everyone can be a "high end player", if they could then the title would not mean anything.

Can't you have fun just being a "low end player" and PvPing in crushbone and unrest?

If not, try WoW where everyone is a "winner".

Stop trying to wowify the ONLY classic red experience left on the planet.

Good day.

Don't you get it ? No one wants to play your "ONLY CLASSIC RED EXPERIENCE LEFT ON THE PLANET" - It's the reason it's ..gasp...the only one.

I could careless about trying to WoWify your server, but It's entertaining to read the complaining about server population, then making posts telling people to go play WoW.

Enjoy your fail server. Eventually no one will be a winner. Derp.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I CALLED IT FUCKERS

worthless noob who can't even remember what level his "main" toon is on the server.

Go back to wow, or a server that gives you insta-max-level.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I could careless about trying to WoWify your server, but It's entertaining to read the complaining about server population, then making posts telling people to go play WoW.

Enjoy your fail server. Eventually no one will be a winner. Derp.

The people left playing are the ones.. /gasp , having fun on the server and enjoy it for what it is. Many in this boat are just waiting for more content to release , which WILL happen.

Server is fine, change it and its not "this server" its a wow clone.

Im addressing all the people who want to change it. No need to change it, log onto any of the hundreds of other games out there for that game experience "millions" are playing.

This server has a specific purpose and is targeted to the few left in the game-space that likes true classic red EQ.

We understand that is not some huge majority anymore, we are just thankful that this one precious server is here and we DONT want it made into a wow clone.

Hope ive made myself clear. Nilbog (and I guess rogean for errr umm.. maintaining the server???) thanks for what you do and keeping this rare breed alive.

[Massive Marc]

Server is fine, change it and its not "this server" its a wow clone.


fuck you dumb. lol.

[Tr0llb0rn]

fuck you dumb. lol.

^^ lost

now go back to wow

[Massive Marc]

^^ lost

now go back to wow

< doesn't play wow, you're still fucking retarded though. enjoy dead server.

[Lazortag]

Maybe for you it is...but you're missing the point.

You and the other 30 people that play on this server are a small percentage (if any) of todays gamer. What you find fun, one million other players don't. Add that with the other issues I pointed out and you get a dead server.

EDIT: to be honest, I can't really think of any major changes (exp,content.etc) that would increase the population to acceptable numbers (not even sure what you guys would like for population) There's a good chance EQ is finally dying off.

The vast majority of people who played eq live back in the day never made it to level 50. Most of these people were clueless newbs who, either because of school, work, or having shitty dial up internet, didn't have the time to invest to make it to raid level. And that's fine! This is a game where you're supposed to make your own fun. If the emu pvp community can only derive fun out of the game once they hit level 50, that's their fault, not nilbog's, and I fail to see why anything should be changed to suit them. I know this sounds like victim-blaming but it's not. The pvp community is its own worst enemy.

[Massive Marc]

The vast majority of people who played eq live back in the day never made it to level 50. Most of these people were clueless newbs who, either because of school, work, or having shitty dial up internet, didn't have the time to invest to make it to raid level. And that's fine! This is a game where you're supposed to make your own fun. If the emu pvp community can only derive fun out of the game once they hit level 50, that's their fault, not nilbog's, and I fail to see why anything should be changed to suit them. I know this sounds like victim-blaming but it's not. The pvp community is its own worst enemy.

I agree, not that I think you should change anything to suit them, I just don't think there's anything that you can change that will bring people to the server.

If you want population to increase you would have to follow what current MMO's are doing.

If you want a niche game that almost no one will play, then you can't complaining about server population without looking fucking retarded.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Thread is about releaseing the already planned content of the server on the planned "accelerated timeline".

Not complaining about the low pop. The majority of the people complaining about the low pop quit before they hit level 30.

We are here for a niche game and take the good with the bad.

ltr

[heartbrand]

Gonna be so lol when there's not even enough pop for the hardcore bluebies to raid the pixels they seek so desperately, good luck in velious brews.

[PhantomRogue]

Listen, the server is fun, when you are 50 and there is loads of PvP and shit to do.

The IMPOSSIBLE part is trying to start a non-solo toon right now. The absolute chasm that exists for TRUELY new people is absurd.

There is ZERO. NONE. NADA. ZILCH. NEIN. Chance that anyone will come to this server fresh. And if they do, it will be as a solo class, because there is quite literally nothing for a Melee to do.

The indisputable fact is, you have more people leaving than you have starting. And the ones that "start" are trading Blue for Red and thus aren't even new to begin with.

The server is dieing, you can say its not, but that is because you are already over the insane treadmill, and honestly don't care about people coming up.

Its the old, "I had to do it this way, so you have to also. And I will cry and scream if you have it easier than me." No you fucking morons, just because you did something, does not mean its in the best interest for all people to do it. Its that attitude that is the worst thing about the server, and unfortunately anyone that comes to this server/board now, all they see are those idiots.

The Admins/GMs are helpful enough, but its the dumbass attitude of the people on this board that keeps pushing people away.

I don't care if you were able to grind through it. It is in the best interest of the server to change. But because people want to brag about getting to 50 in classic that people are now killing the one server everyone wanted.

It is complete idiocy to think that the server is not slowly dieing, just look at the population numbers. The people that log in now will get bored and walk away, and on top of that, there will be zero new people playing AND STAYING because of the reasons outlined above.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Gonna be so lol when there's not even enough pop for the hardcore bluebies to raid the pixels they seek so desperately, good luck in velious brews.

^^ failed as main tank of a 35+ combo zerg on naggy four times till 3am

^^ failed as the main tank of a 30+ zerg raid on vox till 4am


Vox died to 15 last night, dropped phat loot, the above is super bad/mad/bitter/jealous

[heartbrand]

Remember when we were crying about the pop issue when average pop on a weeknight was 80, and the same nihilum trolls told us just release plane of hate everything will be fine? yup

[Massive Marc]

Someone gets it.

[heartbrand]

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[PhantomRogue]

^^ failed as main tank of a 35+ combo zerg on naggy four times till 3am

^^ failed as the main tank of a 30+ zerg raid on vox till 4am


Vox died to 15 last night, dropped phat loot, the above is super bad/mad/bitter/jealous


15 out of 30 players. So it took 50% of the population to kill it. Sounds a lot sadder.

[Lazortag]

Gonna be so lol when there's not even enough pop for the hardcore bluebies to raid the pixels they seek so desperately, good luck in velious brews.

There already isn't enough. How do you think any guild is going to kill Spiroc Lord without exploits, with the numbers they have, before kunark? Good luck with that.

[Tr0llb0rn]

This message is hidden because Tr0llb0rn is on your ignore list.

^^ throws in the towel

<-------- wins

[heartbrand]

There already isn't enough. How do you think any guild is going to kill Spiroc Lord without exploits, with the numbers they have, before kunark? Good luck with that.

I thought this as well but I was told there are some "sick exploits" for sky from those within nihilum while I was a member that would make it trivial. I haven't done sky since the zone was current tho, and charm pets were infeasible.

[Maze]

Remember when we were crying about the pop issue when average pop on a weeknight was 80, and the same nihilum trolls told us just release plane of hate everything will be fine? yup

SO RIGHT LOL

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k482/Phototurtle/Capture-1.png

[hagard]

Trollborn the new harry
Good solution to pop tell everyone to go play wow

[Mornin3.0]

probably gonna quit soon.. gg i won server.

[heartbrand]

Ya, logging on to see Meow all joined nihilum and they mass recruited some people I have never even heard of kinda killed my desire to keep playing tbh. I thought last week was a lot of fun, don't understand the need to to make it dumb with over recruiting, to each their own.

Summer time is here and I have a three week vacation planned to Italy and France in July, and one week getaway to Vegas in June, gotta do some leveling up in RL.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Ya, logging on to see Meow all joined nihilum and they mass recruited some people I have never even heard of kinda killed my desire to keep playing tbh. I thought last week was a lot of fun, don't understand the need to to make it dumb with over recruiting, to each their own.

Summer time is here and I have a three week vacation planned to Italy and France in July, and one week getaway to Vegas in June, gotta do some leveling up in RL.

^^ lol what does that make? your seventh "I quit" post?

GRIEFED OFF THE SERVER (seven times!! all time record)

On the bright side maybe FF can do some raid targets now, without your fail tank bringing them down over and over and over....

[Ames_High_King_Gaddafi]

Trollborn the new harry
Good solution to pop tell everyone to go play wow

He is harry dummy






Harry nd Gay

[heartbrand]

Mellow prolly postin mad bad shit. I already won this server, CR has taken 1 PVP death in his existence, have 100+ killshots with him, got dat 100:1 killshot ratio. If I wanted to talk PVE we could have a magelo off brew on our live accounts and spew wonderful sperm into the air.

[hagard]

He is harry dummy






Harry nd Gay

And Harry wants to be cast amirite

[Wolfgang]

brotherhood going to win

[Angkar]

AThere is no reason why 7 months into release people should not be 50, or close.

Here is the flaw with your logic, your talking about people that have played on server for 7 months, are not 50, quit, and might come back. Of which, there are . . . 20? If that.

Most people talking about exp, are talking about pumping new blood into the system, and bringing back those that quit at lvl 1-30 b/c they didnt want the grind.

[Angkar]

Only read page 1, and 18.

Lol @ Nihi recruiting more people.

[kprobe]

wow, soo many delusional Nihilum here.

This box isn't for you, its for all of us. We don't need content progression we need new players (or ones coming back). This can be fixed with some good xp hot zones, which increases competition and leveling. Make the hot zone move every day...

Optionally temporary xp bonus to 42 will do the same, minus risk of oor healed alts holding hot-zones.

[PhantomRogue]

wow, soo many delusional Nihilum here.

This box isn't for you, its for all of us. We don't need content progression we need new players (or ones coming back).

^^

[jdklaw]

wow, soo many delusional Nihilum here.

This box isn't for you, its for all of us. We don't need content progression we need new players (or ones coming back). This can be fixed with some good xp hot zones, which increases competition and leveling. Make the hot zone move every day...

Optionally temporary xp bonus to 42 will do the same, minus risk of oor healed alts holding hot-zones.

http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Recommended_Levels_and_ZEM_List

Check it, hot zone solution:


Continent

Zone Name

"Stock" Modifier

p1999 Modifier/Notes


Antonica

Befallen

160


Antonica

Blackburrow

100


Antonica

Halas

100


Antonica

Highpass Keep

150


Antonica

Highpass Hold

80


Antonica

Lower Guk

80


Antonica

Nagafen's Lair

80


Antonica

Najena

130


Antonica

Neriak - Commons

100


Antonica

Neriak - Foreign Quarter

100


Antonica

Neriak - Third Gate

100


Antonica

North Freeport

100


Antonica

Oggok

100


Antonica

Permafrost

90


Antonica

Rivervale

100


Antonica

Runnyeye

100


Antonica

Solusek's Eye

130


Antonica

Splitpaw Lair

90


Antonica

Surefall Glade

100


Antonica

Upper Guk

150


Faydwer

Ak'Anon

100


Faydwer

Crushbone

160


Faydwer

Felwithe

100


Faydwer

Kaladim

100


Faydwer

Kedge Keep

100

Noticeably higher, ~150-200


Faydwer

Kelethin

100


Faydwer

Mistmoore

90


Faydwer

Unrest

130


Odus

Erudin

100


Odus

Kerra Island

90

[gloinz]

add another 0 to each of those and we have a fixed serverbox

[Maze]

add another 0 to each of those and we have a fixed serverbox

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

add another 0 to each of those and we have a fixed serverbox

PVE is too easy.

Griefed off of the server by PVE being too hard.

[Zereh]

Retention of existing players and enticing former players to come back would be the quickest and smartest way to boost server pop. Why cater to a maybe player instead of to those who have played / do play?

[jjgerman]

because the people left on this server are horrible humans, in game and out of game, need new blood for this server to survive.

[Maze]

Retention of existing players and enticing former players to come back would be the quickest and smartest way to boost server pop. Why cater to a maybe player instead of to those who have played / do play?

Same argument before hate was released when avg pop was 80 players, a month later now 30 players.

Damn dog that new content bringing people back in droves.

Please increase exp for casuals to play as well, need fresh people barrier of entry to server is sky high atm.

[kprobe]

http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Recommended_Levels_and_ZEM_List

Check it, hot zone solution:


... (lazy spam) ...


Everyone knows about the current modified zones. What we're talking about is a hot zone.

A hot zone implies a singular zone that has additional XP bonus on top of whatever else is already in place. Being a single zone means you crunch the population into that area, hence competition and good leveling times. (I would even suggest making hot-zones unable to land oor healing, to counter alt dreamteams).

But you already knew that, you're just looking for an excuse to stop the discussion and point it to the only thing you're interested in: more content to the detriment of the server.

[Wolfgang]

enable /testbuff

[jdklaw]

But you already knew that, you're just looking for an excuse to stop the discussion and point it to the only thing you're interested in: more content to the detriment of the server.

Not.

I have a lot of time invested in this server. I give items and buffs and free PL's to newbs whenever I am sitting around. I enjoy playing EQ just like the rest of the nerds on this forum.

I care about the server and its longevity.

I just don't take the same approach as the rest of the crybabies. I don't think that bitching at the devs and flooding the forum with "This server is dead" is the right solution.

[heartbrand]

lol you knew that post was a troll when he used the word "newbs" any real player knows there are no newbs on this server

[PhantomRogue]

Not.

I have a lot of time invested in this server. I give items and buffs and free PL's to newbs whenever I am sitting around. I enjoy playing EQ just like the rest of the nerds on this forum.

I care about the server and its longevity.

I just don't take the same approach as the rest of the crybabies. I don't think that bitching at the devs and flooding the forum with "This server is dead" is the right solution.

Its not dead. It's dieing. When more people leave than join or stay... that is a negative outcome, and when that continues... it will go to 0 unless something is done. What that something is is up for debate, but we all know that nothing will be done, so... Whatev.

[hagard]

PVE is too easy.

Griefed off of the server by PVE being too hard.

Not too hard too time consuming

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

Then deal with it and stop crying about it.

[jdklaw]

Its not dead. It's dieing. When more people leave than join or stay... that is a negative outcome, and when that continues... it will go to 0 unless something is done. What that something is is up for debate, but we all know that nothing will be done, so... Whatev.

well crying and making 10 new boohoo threads a day is not the solution, that deters people...

exp, if boosted, has the potential to increase pop, its not a guarenteed outcome.

This is Everquest: its a small niche of MMO gamers, people come here knowing its a grind...
This is Everquest PvP: its an even smaller niche of EQ gaming, people come knowing the population will be lower...

Saying the grind is the cause of low pop is retarded.

[hagard]

Then deal with it and stop crying about it.

Quit my job and dump my gf for "classic" eq server with 40 people? Brilliant idea mate

[Toehammer]

Its not dead. It's dieing. When more people leave than join or stay... that is a negative outcome, and when that continues... it will go to 0 unless something is done. What that something is is up for debate, but we all know that nothing will be done, so... Whatev.

I think this thread got way off track... and that's because the idea of more content at this point IS LUDICROUS.

The simple fact that the general population of Red 99 is disgruntled is 50% because they are angst-filled people, and 50% because the server (as the poster above said) is not dead but slowly dying.

THAT IS TRUE.

I understand the devs have been absent and busy with Velious on Blue and RL, and D3 lol. But I think this server is hitting a tipping point... and that no bullshit discussions are needed between several players and the dev... on mumble/vent/whatever dorky voice chat software is used.

What if each major guild (lol at this point that means you have >10 active players) sent two guild members to a chat between devs/players? (No not some dorky LotR thing... please nobody respond "you have my axe!")

Dialogue about how to "bind wound" on this server is needed. We are below 50% health... and are slowly getting beat down... someone help!

I really want this server to turn around and instead of slowly dying, start slowly thriving. Imagine 100ppl level 50, 50 people levels 20-40, and 20 people level 1-20 leveling/pvping/griefing in red harmony... who doesn't want that?

We have all brainstormed enough as players, we need to start getting the devs involved in friendly discussion. :)

[hagard]

Saying the grind is the cause of low pop is retarded.

HE HE HE

[heartbrand]

Saying the grind is the cause of low pop is retarded.

lol lol lol

[hagard]

lol lol lol

HA HA HA STILL ROFL

[Tombom]

IT IS SO FUCKING SIMPLE

the gap between regular 50s and poor soloin new players is TOO LARGE

how do we fix this?!

huh increase xp perhaps?!?!?!!?

ITS NOT HARD, we all know this game is a monster of a timesink, and that its worth it...

WHEN you are playing with other people. You would have to be insane to lvl here from
scratch right now.

hotzones adress lack of pvp, empty zones, and opportunities for new players to make friends, as well as a huge boost in xp.

its easy, its needed, there is no reason not to do this just like there was no reason not to have global OOC,

(and throw in YT while you are at it God dammit)

tyty

[PhantomRogue]

Saying the grind is the cause of low pop is retarded.

If this was true, the 150 people that were here first week would still be here. Or even the 80 that were here the month after. Or the 60 after another 2 months. Or the 50 3 months later. Or the 40 that are on right now.

Numbers don't lie, no matter how you try to rationalize them.

All I am saying is that there is a slow yet noticeable decline in population numbers.

Whatever you think the cause is, is moot. The decline in numbers will not stop unless something is done.

But no one that matters, cares. So, Whatev.

[Dullah]

wow, soo many delusional Nihilum here.

This box isn't for you, its for all of us. We don't need content progression we need new players (or ones coming back). This can be fixed with some good xp hot zones, which increases competition and leveling. Make the hot zone move every day...

Optionally temporary xp bonus to 42 will do the same, minus risk of oor healed alts holding hot-zones.
These aren't the reasons people have left.

This isn't vz fucking tz. EQ vets from Rallos, VZ and TZ (which I am) don't play here for some call of duty fantasy pvp. No one wants to sit around in classic EQ for a year with nothing new to compete over. Trying to repopulate this server with new people when 300 level 50s are sitting inactive is not the way to fix the problem. Everquest is ABOUT the pixels you fucking morons (which is why you have 100s of hours invested in gear (pve)). Its about progressing your character with the additional challenge of PVP, not about some pointless pvp pipe dream that FF and Holocaust has created in their own mind. Those of us with real pvp skills go play competitively in BF and Call of Duty, not shit up our MMOs with our ridiculous vision of being king of some retarded custom pvp box.

That said, this box isn't for us? 90% of the server has left for the very reasons we bring up here: boredom and a loss of hope in staff. They want to see the server get updated, and have a hope that kunark will ever come out. At this point, they just don't see it happening with dozens of people stuck with petitions for 3-5 months, rogean missing in action and devs telling us we can't have classic systems.

Its not about there being a lack of pvp. The average player doesn't share your view of this server or want to deal with being guilded with a bunch of shit talking assclowns. They just want to play Everquest, and enjoy some pvp on the side. Thats what classic EQ was about 13 years ago, but most of you wouldn't know that. You shouldn't be surprised when they join Nihilum. Just look at the trash many of your guildmates post. Look at your image. Its not everyone, but it doesn't matter. Learn to manage your guilds. Your guild shits on every good suggestion in hopes of recreating EQ FPS instead of just enjoying what EQ has to offer.

Our loss of people has nothing to do with any of these reasons you've stated. Theres thousands of players willing to play classic EQ with classic EXP, but with the players leaving in droves waiting for the "accelerated timeline", theres no one staying around for new players to level up with. Bringing out kunark gives every solo and guilded player something to work towards and fight for. Stop trying to resurrect a dead era, shits played out. Classic Everquest is cashed fellas.

[hagard]

^ angry as fuk

[Dullah]

I said fuck, must be angry.

Classic low iq response to logic.

[hagard]

Everquest is ABOUT the pixels you fucking morons, thats what indicated the rage

[hagard]

Its not about there being a lack of pvp
Go blue
The more I read your post the more I lol, ty

[Jabber]

These aren't the reasons people have left.

This isn't vz fucking tz. EQ vets from Rallos, VZ and TZ (which I am) don't play here for some call of duty fantasy pvp. No one wants to sit around in classic EQ for a year with nothing new to compete over. Trying to repopulate this server with new people when 300 level 50s are sitting inactive is not the way to fix the problem. Everquest is ABOUT the pixels you fucking morons (which is why you have 100s of hours invested in gear (pve)). Its about progressing your character with the additional challenge of PVP, not about some pointless pvp pipe dream that FF and Holocaust has created in their own mind. Those of us with real pvp skills go play competitively in BF and Call of Duty, not shit up our MMOs with our ridiculous vision of being king of some retarded custom pvp box.

That said, this box isn't for us? 90% of the server has left for the very reasons we bring up here: boredom and a loss of hope in staff. They want to see the server get updated, and have a hope that kunark will ever come out. At this point, they just don't see it happening with dozens of people stuck with petitions for 3-5 months, rogean missing in action and devs telling us we can't have classic systems.

Its not about there being a lack of pvp. The average player doesn't share your view of this server or want to deal with being guilded with a bunch of shit talking assclowns. They just want to play Everquest, and enjoy some pvp on the side. Thats what classic EQ was about 13 years ago, but most of you wouldn't know that. You shouldn't be surprised when they join Nihilum. Just look at the trash many of your guildmates post. Look at your image. Its not everyone, but it doesn't matter. Learn to manage your guilds. Your guild shits on every good suggestion in hopes of recreating EQ FPS instead of just enjoying what EQ has to offer.

Our loss of people has nothing to do with any of these reasons you've stated. Theres thousands of players willing to play classic EQ with classic EXP, but with the players leaving in droves waiting for the "accelerated timeline", theres no one staying around for new players to level up with. Bringing out kunark gives every solo and guilded player something to work towards and fight for. Stop trying to resurrect a dead era, shits played out. Classic Everquest is cashed fellas.

Calm your vagina fat boy

[Zereh]

Not being bright enough to maintain a sustainable presence on the server is not something that can be fixed with code or content. You shit on everyone in the game and on the forums and yet pretend to be shocked when there's no one around to grief, old or new.

Try fixing your game. EQ is fine.

[heartbrand]

Its not about there being a lack of pvp
Go blue
The more I read your post the more I lol, ty

^ yup loled hard also


there are NOT 300 level 50's sitting on the side lines bros, and if there are, they are all in one single guild, nihilum, which will do nothing to help this box as a whole.

[PhantomRogue]

I said fuck, must be angry.

Classic low iq response to logic.

No, you are just plain missing the point.

No amount of new Content will bring people back like you believe. If they are all level 50, then why aren't they here competing over Dragons and other stuff?

Why did they leave?

They didn't leave because there was nothing new to compete over. Why aren't they wiping other raids? THAT is what EQ was about, it was about competition. Competition over the week long respawns. Adding new content will only exacerbates the problem with the server.

You want new content because you are the big fish in a small pond. You want to extend your life. So you ask the owner to give you some more food. And you will be so happy that you will gobble up the new food without second thought. But then when there is nothing left of that food, you will again ask for more food. Eat it all, then wonder where all the food went.

When if you would understand that to give true longevity to a game, you have to balance not only end game, but a way to continually allow people to catch up and have their turn at the competition.

I swear people have no fucking idea about actual theory and logic.

In your job, if you just keep giving the CEOs more and more money (Same logic you are using for more content)... what happens? The economy COLLAPSES (hi, it just happened in IRL). But when you allow the new kids on the block, the ability and patients allow them to compete, it betters the entire economy.

You have to allow for growth of the low man on the totem pole. And EQ is NOTORIOUS for never allowing that to happen. But SoE remedied that with EXP bonus' (double exp weekends and shit) and other enhancements, Red99 hasn't.

So you can bitch and whine about new content all you want, its artificial and does NOT solve the problem. Which is people leave not because there is no content, but because there is no point in steamrolling AI. This is a PvP server, not a PvE server.

[jdklaw]

If this was true, the 150 people that were here first week would still be here. Or even the 80 that were here the month after. Or the 60 after another 2 months. Or the 50 3 months later. Or the 40 that are on right now.

Numbers don't lie, no matter how you try to rationalize them.

All I am saying is that there is a slow yet noticeable decline in population numbers.

Whatever you think the cause is, is moot. The decline in numbers will not stop unless something is done.

But no one that matters, cares. So, Whatev.

yea the numbers of a dwindling population is 100% related to exp, not any other outside causes like new games, betas, finals, and summer vacations.

the numbers dont lie, lowering population is scientifically and statistically related to exp, how did i miss it?

[Wolfgang]

need iksars

[Dullah]

Yes, all the hundreds of 50s collecting dust are all gone because exp was so hard. They aren't competing over dragons because most of them have dragon loot already or they feel its not a safe investment. I know its hard to believe for you guys just hitting 50 now, but we've been doing this for 5 months.

Lets cater to a handful of new guys with classic era EQ when legacy items have already been removed instead of giving 90% of the population who's already 40+ a reason to come back.

Please, lecture me more in logic, professor.

[PhantomRogue]

Yes, all the hundreds of 50s collecting dust are all gone because exp was so hard. They aren't competing over dragons because most of them have dragon loot already or they feel its not a safe investment. I know its hard to believe for you guys just hitting 50 now, but we've been doing this for 5 months.

The vast Majority that quit quit because the server SUCKED off the get go. Resists were jacked up hard. They still are, they are better, but still messed up. They quit because people exploited to get where they were. Then weren't punished. When others tried to do it, they were banned.

They quit because the server had severe growing pains. Now, the server is semi stable, but the people who left, aren't looking back, because THEY MOVED ON. But the people still around, are the ones you need to worry about. But you are 50, and if those folks aren't, well fuck them, they don't mean shit!

[nabsev]

Dullah went full retard itt

[jdklaw]

No, you are just plain missing the point.

No amount of new Content will bring people back like you believe. If they are all level 50, then why aren't they here competing over Dragons and other stuff?

Why did they leave?

They didn't leave because there was nothing new to compete over. Why aren't they wiping other raids? THAT is what EQ was about, it was about competition. Competition over the week long respawns. Adding new content will only exacerbates the problem with the server.


The ones that are still here are competing over dragons and stuff, but it gets boring after awhile.

FF barely nutted up and decided to give it a shot only to realize they can't kill a dragon and gave up even trying after a little bit of PvP defeat. They themselves are not even into mass PvP because they are too sensitive to take a loss so they don't get on to do it anymore.

Adding new content will add more targets to fight over, more reason to log on full guild raid force and aim for, a reason to EXP, both solo and group, and new items to acquire.

Lower Guk was a battlezone because everyone group exp'd there and even when they were 50, were farming items. Creating a reason to EXP means there are reasons to fight for zone control. New items also means new things to contest.

If Kunark was out, the people that didnt want to relive classic because they already did that and are in Kunark on blue would come over to try PvP, or if they already have lvl 50's will come back. I expect Hololost to make a resurrection once Kunark releases also. New population means more lvls 1-50s, new guild, new pool to recruit for contesting etc...


You want new content because you are the big fish in a small pond. You want to extend your life. So you ask the owner to give you some more food. And you will be so happy that you will gobble up the new food without second thought. But then when there is nothing left of that food, you will again ask for more food. Eat it all, then wonder where all the food went.

When if you would understand that to give true longevity to a game, you have to balance not only end game, but a way to continually allow people to catch up and have their turn at the competition.


It will take a long, long time for Kunark to be even close to finishing. Classic has 2 dragons and 3 planes.

You seem to be forgetting that this is Everquest, everyone knew what they were getting into when creating an account to play a EQEMU. They knew this wasn't catered to the casuals like WoW and the rest of the mainstream MMO's. Pretending like its the Dev's fault for not following mainstream methods of mass apeal as a reason for failure is way off base.


You have to allow for growth of the low man on the totem pole. And EQ is NOTORIOUS for never allowing that to happen. But SoE remedied that with EXP bonus' (double exp weekends and shit) and other enhancements, Red99 hasn't.


EXP boosted weekends and holidays is an awsome idea. They did it a few times at early points in the server and it allowed people to poopsock hard to gain a few levels to play catchup. I agree this should be done more, as opposed to a perma increase.

[Maze]

nihilum members (content) vs rest of server (exp).

[hagard]

The vast Majority that quit quit because the server SUCKED off the get go. Resists were jacked up hard. They still are, they are better, but still messed up. They quit because people exploited to get where they were. Then weren't punished. When others tried to do it, they were banned.

They quit because the server had severe growing pains. Now, the server is semi stable, but the people who left, aren't looking back, because THEY MOVED ON. But the people still around, are the ones you need to worry about. But you are 50, and if those folks aren't, well fuck them, they don't mean shit!

Spot on

[hagard]

nihilum members (content) vs rest of server (exp).

For those that don't want to read the 20+ pages this the summary Ty maze for breaking it down bud

[heartbrand]

For those that don't want to read the 20+ pages this the summary Ty maze for breaking it down bud

[heartbrand]

No, you are just plain missing the point.

No amount of new Content will bring people back like you believe. If they are all level 50, then why aren't they here competing over Dragons and other stuff?

Why did they leave?

They didn't leave because there was nothing new to compete over. Why aren't they wiping other raids? THAT is what EQ was about, it was about competition. Competition over the week long respawns. Adding new content will only exacerbates the problem with the server.

You want new content because you are the big fish in a small pond. You want to extend your life. So you ask the owner to give you some more food. And you will be so happy that you will gobble up the new food without second thought. But then when there is nothing left of that food, you will again ask for more food. Eat it all, then wonder where all the food went.

When if you would understand that to give true longevity to a game, you have to balance not only end game, but a way to continually allow people to catch up and have their turn at the competition.

I swear people have no fucking idea about actual theory and logic.

In your job, if you just keep giving the CEOs more and more money (Same logic you are using for more content)... what happens? The economy COLLAPSES (hi, it just happened in IRL). But when you allow the new kids on the block, the ability and patients allow them to compete, it betters the entire economy.

You have to allow for growth of the low man on the totem pole. And EQ is NOTORIOUS for never allowing that to happen. But SoE remedied that with EXP bonus' (double exp weekends and shit) and other enhancements, Red99 hasn't.

So you can bitch and whine about new content all you want, its artificial and does NOT solve the problem. Which is people leave not because there is no content, but because there is no point in steamrolling AI. This is a PvP server, not a PvE server.

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time.

[Maze]

you sound depressed its gonna be ok

[Dullah]

Yes, trolls are obviously right.

Fail guilds want easy exp to fill up their guild ranks and get back lost time.
Newbs want ez exp because in 7 months they couldnt get 50.
Trolls/sploiters want ez exp to replace banned toons.

Impart this great wisdom oh wise trolls.

Tell us how we don't need to move forward to stimulate growth, add content and bring back the masses, but rather need to start over again with classic content, shit on the vets who've been here 7 months, make xp ez to fill up the server with trolls so we can PEEVEEPEE!!!!11

Your motives are obvious. Troll on.

[Wolfgang]

hate to say it but im for both. would love kunark and xp

[heartbrand]

no clue seen destin 3 times in game since the server has been released, was not in nihilum while I was there, no clue who this guy is other than forum troll

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time.

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time..

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time...

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time....

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time.....

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time......

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time.......

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time........

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time.........

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time..........

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time...........

[Mornin3.0]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time............

[swagdaddy]

not reading any of this.. you are all dumb and wasting your time.

[Lazortag]

This isn't vz fucking tz. EQ vets from Rallos, VZ and TZ (which I am) don't play here for some call of duty fantasy pvp. No one wants to sit around in classic EQ for a year with nothing new to compete over. Trying to repopulate this server with new people when 300 level 50s are sitting inactive is not the way to fix the problem. ...

The level 50's who quit didn't all do so because of lack of content. Many of them quit because there aren't any high end guilds that appeal to them. Others quit because there's a lack of pvp. Others quit because the community is full of incorrigible idiots. Kunark isn't going to bring those people back, and I suspect you know that already.

[lethdar]

vztz lasted 4+ years, r99 looks like it wont even make it a year.

[Dullah]

Every time I logged on vztz it had same or less than we got now with boxing.

[Tr0llb0rn]

reported for chain spamming.

[heartbrand]

The level 50's who quit didn't all do so because of lack of content. Many of them quit because there aren't any high end guilds that appeal to them. Others quit because there's a lack of pvp. Others quit because the community is full of incorrigible idiots. Kunark isn't going to bring those people back, and I suspect you know that already.

A+ post

[Tr0llb0rn]

The level 50's who quit didn't all do so because of lack of content. Many of them quit because there aren't any high end guilds that appeal to them. Others quit because there's a lack of pvp. Others quit because the community is full of incorrigible idiots. Kunark isn't going to bring those people back, and I suspect you know that already.

Ever word in your post maybe true.

Dosent change the fact that the only thing that can be done that will bring back some people is: release more content/kunark.

Thats the only mechanism/tool left in the bag of tricks to boost pop that is beyond the playerbases hands, and thus the only thing we as players can "bitch" about.

So without further adieu: WTB more content.

[heartbrand]

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[jdklaw]

Mornin anger at an all time high

[jdklaw]

This

keep it classic the harder the better... WTB content as I already played 2 chars until 50. One of it is a Paladin.
Stop crying about changing exp rate.
Thxxx

hes also on euro hours so he soloed it all the way like a champ, a real champ

[casdegere]

Well the xp penalty is an issue but the only person I heard openly willing to help new players was Lazer and he wanted Blue plat for his time. Newbies can not OOC anyone until level 10 and when I got on recently all I heard in OOC was a few people smack talking and insult slinging back and forth which was bordline offensive. If you perhaps openly advirtised to assist people to get them started, more would come maybe. What was kind of funny was people trying to sell items in OOC to all of 32 people online at the time. FBSS for 7k etc etc. I'm not saying its conventional to just give stuff away or for new people to go through the hard knocks of going it alone, you guys toughed it out after all. I'm just suggesting perhaps a few kind gestures to newbies if it hasn't already been tried. Fun>pixel items.

Edit: To comment on the above poster, 882 posts and 2 chars to 50 pretty much screams pasty white basement dweller. Go get some sunshine man, geeze.