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Ames_High_King_Gaddafi
05-30-2012, 03:44 PM
Boost XP = Easier to Level = More PVPers interested in a box where it does not take 15 /played to hit 50 to PvP = Their friends joining up as well = Rising Population = More guilds = More PvP = Better Server = More Adsense for a 2nd prius for Rogean
EVERYBODY WINS
bilbobaggins
05-30-2012, 03:51 PM
I know its hard to believe for you guys just hitting 50 now, but we've been doing this for 5 months.
holy shit this bro is leet.
"how does one beat that which has no life?"
Tr0llb0rn
05-30-2012, 04:09 PM
Boost XP = Easier to Level = More PVPers interested in a box where it does not take 15 /played to hit 50 to PvP = Their friends joining up as well = Rising Population = More guilds = More PvP = Better Server = More Adsense for a 2nd prius for Rogean
EVERYBODY WINS
Already games for that, try WoW.
This is about classic 1999 era EQ. Stop trying to fit a square peg into a triangle slot. Go play wow instead.
heartbrand
05-30-2012, 04:30 PM
Boost XP = Easier to Level = More PVPers interested in a box where it does not take 15 /played to hit 50 to PvP = Their friends joining up as well = Rising Population = More guilds = More PvP = Better Server = More Adsense for a 2nd prius for Rogean
EVERYBODY WINS
PhantomRogue
05-30-2012, 04:47 PM
Already games for that, try WoW.
This is about classic 1999 era EQ. Stop trying to fit a square peg into a triangle slot. Go play wow instead.
In the world of idiots, you must be glad to be King. Also, there is a reason why WoW surpassed EQ's PEAK subscriber numbers within the first year of being released.
Blizzard knew that in order to keep people around, you make the game ACCESSIBLE, to everyone. You just can't comprehend basic life cycle facts you fucking troglodyte.
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-30-2012, 05:02 PM
^this guy is awfully mad he can't handle Classic EQ.
jdklaw
05-30-2012, 05:06 PM
In the world of idiots, you must be glad to be King. Also, there is a reason why WoW surpassed EQ's PEAK subscriber numbers within the first year of being released.
Blizzard knew that in order to keep people around, you make the game ACCESSIBLE, to everyone. You just can't comprehend basic life cycle facts you fucking troglodyte.
people play eqemu for the eq experience, not the accessible to everyone experience. you are an idiot lol
bilbobaggins
05-30-2012, 05:11 PM
people play eqemu for the eq experience, not the accessible to everyone experience. you are an idiot lol
you believe people play r99 to re-live the 300hour grind from 1-50?
heartbrand
05-30-2012, 05:12 PM
Ya nothin reminds me more of that eq experience then 25 person afternoon pop, zero groups and ban happy GMs.
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-30-2012, 05:14 PM
I believe that there are dozens of inbred cousinfucking idiots who came to a classic everquest server knowing it was going to be slow, and then cried that it was slow.
That takes a certain special kind of retarded.
Just admit you can't handle it. Experience is through the roof in comparison to P99 blue and P99 blue is fine. Experience isn't the problem.
jdklaw
05-30-2012, 05:26 PM
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bilbobaggins
05-30-2012, 05:47 PM
Just admit you can't handle it. Experience is through the roof in comparison to P99 blue and P99 blue is fine. Experience isn't the problem.
we've already admitted we can't handle it. those of us with even the slightest real life commitments have alread made it clear that we don't have the time to kill rats for 300 hours as a prerequisite to pvp.
it takes a special kind of retarded to be proud to hit level 50 in everquest. open your eyes... everquest isn't hard... it's tedious. there is nothing to be proud of when you ding 50. the only thing to be certain of if you just hit 50 is that you probably need a shower and should probably take that shit you've been holding in for the last 2 weeks.
it also takes a special kind of retard to compare blue to red. blue exp is slower and they have more players so clearly experience isn't the issue guys. durrrrr? blue also has pvp turned off.... maybe thats what red needs to do to bring players back amirite?? just turn pvp off. harrison smart.
Tr0llb0rn
05-30-2012, 05:49 PM
In the world of idiots, you must be glad to be King. Also, there is a reason why WoW surpassed EQ's PEAK subscriber numbers within the first year of being released.
Blizzard knew that in order to keep people around, you make the game ACCESSIBLE, to everyone. You just can't comprehend basic life cycle facts you fucking troglodyte.
lol you got the wrong game. This game is not about being ACCESSIBLE to everyone, its about recreating 1999 classic red EQ.
Try WoW if you want more access.
Same argument before hate was released when avg pop was 80 players, a month later now 30 players.
Damn dog that new content bringing people back in droves.
Please increase exp for casuals to play as well, need fresh people barrier of entry to server is sky high atm.
nihilum members (content) vs rest of server (exp).
bilbobaggins
05-30-2012, 05:57 PM
Same argument before hate was released when avg pop was 80 players, a month later now 30 players.
Damn dog that new content bringing people back in droves.
Please increase exp for casuals to play as well, need fresh people barrier of entry to server is sky high atm.
maze for president.
Originally was heartbrand's point, was just a good one lol
gloinz
05-30-2012, 05:59 PM
we've already admitted we can't handle it. those of us with even the slightest real life commitments have alread made it clear that we don't have the time to kill rats for 300 hours as a prerequisite to pvp.
it takes a special kind of retarded to be proud to hit level 50 in everquest. open your eyes... everquest isn't hard... it's tedious. there is nothing to be proud of when you ding 50. the only thing to be certain of if you just hit 50 is that you probably need a shower and should probably take that shit you've been holding in for the last 2 weeks.
it also takes a special kind of retard to compare blue to red. blue exp is slower and they have more players so clearly experience isn't the issue guys. durrrrr? blue also has pvp turned off.... maybe thats what red needs to do to bring players back amirite?? just turn pvp off. harrison smart.
damn fat harrison... better throw some boars head on that burn
gloinz
05-30-2012, 06:00 PM
lol you got the wrong game. This game is not about being ACCESSIBLE to everyone, its about recreating 1999 classic red EQ.
Try WoW if you want more access.
lol @ classic red eq having no groups no pvp nothing until level 50 (which u cant get to unless ur a solo class/ like slaying 50000 kobolds solo)
pvp champs stopped at level 20 and killed hundreds of different ppl, until that can be done on this box it aint classic eq pvp
swagdaddy
05-30-2012, 06:04 PM
lol @ classic red eq having no groups no pvp nothing until level 50 (which u cant get to unless ur a solo class/ like slaying 50000 kobolds solo)
pvp champs stopped at level 20 and killed hundreds of different ppl, until that can be done on this box it aint classic eq pvp
Straight up from the pvp champ himself. 12/10 swaggers my friend, you did it again and you will do it every time.
bilbobaggins
05-30-2012, 06:08 PM
lol you got the wrong game. This game is not about being ACCESSIBLE to everyone, its about recreating 1999 classic red EQ.
Try WoW if you want more access.
cries that server population sucks, tells players to go play other games.
isn't it ironic, don't you think?
Yeah I agree too, speed up content release. Throw plane of Hate and Temple of Sol Ro, then give us Kunark this summer.
I'm sure we lost more people to lack of content then all other things combined 10x.
yeah u were right last time too Rydar/Tr0llb0rn, still waiting on that pop boost after hate was released.
red p99 (and blue99) = classic EQ for the fans of classic EQ.
Dont like classic? go pay wow or ezserver.
Why is pop so low at the moment? Because people got tired of doing lower guk ghoul lord and clearing Plane of Fear for the 100th time.
Its about content, not mechanics. Bring on the new content and the fans of Classic EQ will be back.
Stillllll waiting on those "classic fans of EQ" to come back after they released hate/solro.
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-30-2012, 06:16 PM
I'm trying to calculate how much lead paint you'd have to ingest to be as retarded as the whiny vztz community who came to an emulated Classic Everquest server to complain about the grind in emulated Classic Everquest.
This message is hidden because HarrisonIsStillPosting is on your ignore list.
kprobe
05-30-2012, 06:20 PM
Same argument before hate was released when avg pop was 80 players, a month later now 30 players.
Damn dog that new content bringing people back in droves.
Please increase exp for casuals to play as well, need fresh people barrier of entry to server is sky high atm.
maze for president.
Seconded.
And for those saying this is classic eq, it may have been for those that started when the server started, but its not the same now because of the huge difference in population.
Now we need a way to bring the latecomers to the party (more xp), so we can party so hard the cops have to bust it up ^.^
s1ckness
05-30-2012, 06:28 PM
Stillllll waiting on those "classic fans of EQ" to come back after they released hate/solro.
o sweet, 1 more raid zone that takes 6 hours to clear .
huge reason to come back
s1ckness
05-30-2012, 06:29 PM
open kunark/velious
see you then
Wolfgang
05-30-2012, 06:33 PM
o sweet, 1 more raid zone that takes 6 hours to clear .
huge reason to come back
lol bluebie
Dullah
05-30-2012, 09:47 PM
Lol, slow bus still waiting for r99 to become handicap accessible (xp).
kunark = new fun for all.
Sektor
05-30-2012, 09:50 PM
I'm trying to calculate how much lead paint you'd have to ingest to be as retarded as the whiny vztz community who came to an emulated Classic Everquest server to complain about the grind in emulated Classic Everquest.
lol A+
There was 25 people on when i logged on at 6 pm eastern, do whatever it takes to get it above at least 70 god damn.
Toehammer
05-30-2012, 10:14 PM
Lol, slow bus still waiting for r99 to become handicap accessible (xp).
kunark = new fun for all.
I don't want super increased exp... but you are a huge hypocrite. Your guild skipped out on "classic exp" by exploiting mage swords and wands. So all of your arguments about exp are null and void.
I quit after 2 weeks on this box because my mage was level 20 and guard assist, resists, and exploits were beginning. I didn't see the point in going further when the fundamentals of a PvP server were broken.
Maybe I should have joined Nihilum and exploited swords... dang, missed that boat.
tbh I am having lots of fun playing now though :) Just wish there were more friends to share the server with.
There was 25 people on when i logged on at 6 pm eastern, do whatever it takes to get it above at least 70 god damn.
hagard
05-30-2012, 11:10 PM
This message is hidden because HarrisonIsStillPosting is on your ignore list.
10/10 on the swaggometer
hagard
05-30-2012, 11:12 PM
I remember the assclowns saying the last patch of content was gonna pack the newbie grounds with new players - lolol
That ass clown is radar/troll born boy was he right? Solro/hate nearly tripled the pop
Shocker
05-30-2012, 11:47 PM
My good friend Saidin who quit a while back was right. There's pretty much nothing to do left, no reason to play (no new content/pvp was shitty/didnt want to join FF or Nilly) ... Also, putting the words that apparently FF members couldn't read out of all the arguing back and forth - "THE PVP AGAINST FF @ NAGGY, WAS THE MOST FUN WE HAVE HAD IN A LONG TIME" -Nilly ... So really if we all can agree the server would be better with more pop, thats step 1, now just have to decide the best way. Stop arguing little shit. Fucking act like little kids imo... My opinion is more exp for those that dont have time to hopefully play again. Really dont know if thats the answer... Peace
My opinion is more exp for those that dont have time to hopefully play again. Really dont know if thats the answer... Peace
Swag in this quote
Bardalicious
05-31-2012, 12:28 AM
Swaggin' aint easy.
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-31-2012, 12:36 AM
Experience is already increased.
Deal with it.
Dullah
05-31-2012, 12:47 AM
Lol, slow bus still waiting for r99 to become handicap accessible (xp).
kunark = new fun for all.
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 12:50 AM
Yes you moran, because the 1000 people posting here complaining they can't make it past level 20 are going to love the 51-60 grind.
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-31-2012, 01:37 AM
Experience is already increased.
Deal with it.
bilbobaggins
05-31-2012, 11:12 AM
Lol, slow bus still waiting for r99 to become handicap accessible (xp).
kunark = new fun for all.
kunark = fun for current 50's.
unfortunately it will not bring back any of the players that want to play but don't have the time to dedicate to the grind. if i don't have the time to get from 40-50 do you really think i'm going to even attempt 50-60 with these same experience rates?
listen, you said the pop would spike when hate came out... please explain the 25% drop in pop since hate was released. again, you are asking for things that only the current level 50s want, not for things that the server as a whole needs to survive.
do you understand the difference between wants and needs? kunark is something we want and i won't deny that. kunark is fun as shit, especially for melees (me). but it is not something that will bring back players and help the server.
wants vs needs.
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-31-2012, 11:16 AM
Kunark has content from level 1-60
Kunark's zones have higher modifiers mostly than classic zones(OMG MORE EXPERIENCE?!?!?!?!?)
Kunark has popular items to camp which will increase chances of pvp happening.
Kunark is good for everyone.
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 11:18 AM
If this server had zero people on it, would Harrison still post to stop crying about exp rates?
Tr0llb0rn
05-31-2012, 11:25 AM
Kunark has content from level 1-60
Kunark's zones have higher modifiers mostly than classic zones(OMG MORE EXPERIENCE?!?!?!?!?)
Kunark has popular items to camp which will increase chances of pvp happening.
Kunark is good for everyone.
All very true.
Lets get plane of sky out this weekend so we can get on with Kunark come mid to late June.
If Kunark cant bring all those worthless lazy trolls back, nothing can. They should do themselves a favor and just play WoW or EZserver.
Those of us that love true classic 1999 EQ with a red twist are having fun. Looking forward to fighting FF at this weeks dragon pops (I hear they are done with their BBQing lol, they had 19 online in Fear a couple nights ago)
Tr0llb0rn
05-31-2012, 11:28 AM
P.S. I know Plane of Sky is not going to "fill the noob yards up" but it would be something nice for the lvl 50's (majority of the server right now) to do while waiting for Kunark.
At level 50 you raid and you pvp over raid content. Plane of Sky will allow some more of that beyond the once a week dragons and Inny/CT, even if its just up to isle 4 or whatever.
Release Plane of Sky!
bilbobaggins
05-31-2012, 11:39 AM
Kunark is good for everyone.
i just finished saying kunark is good, derp.
kunark is good for everyone that currently plays. the catch? only 12 people are currently playing.
Project 1999 PvP
Status:
Players: UP
12
jdklaw
05-31-2012, 11:46 AM
Adding new content will add more targets to fight over, more reason to log on full guild raid force and aim for, a reason to EXP, both solo and group, and new items to acquire.
Lower Guk was a battlezone because everyone group exp'd there and even when they were 50, were farming items. Creating a reason to EXP means there are reasons to fight for zone control. New items also means new things to contest.
If Kunark was out, the people that didnt want to relive classic because they already did that and are in Kunark on blue would come over to try PvP, or if they already have lvl 50's will come back. I expect Hololost to make a resurrection once Kunark releases also. New population means more lvls 1-50s, new guild, new pool to recruit for contesting etc...
It will take a long, long time for Kunark to be even close to finishing. Classic has 2 dragons and 3 planes.
You seem to be forgetting that this is Everquest, everyone knew what they were getting into when creating an account to play a EQEMU. They knew this wasn't catered to the casuals like WoW and the rest of the mainstream MMO's. Pretending like its the Dev's fault for not following mainstream methods of mass apeal as a reason for failure is way off base.
EXP boosted weekends and holidays is an awsome idea. They did it a few times at early points in the server and it allowed people to poopsock hard to gain a few levels to play catchup. I agree this should be done more, as opposed to a perma increase.
bilbobaggins
05-31-2012, 11:59 AM
You seem to be forgetting that this is Everquest, everyone knew what they were getting into when creating an account to play a EQEMU. They knew this wasn't catered to the casuals like WoW and the rest of the mainstream MMO's. Pretending like its the Dev's fault for not following mainstream methods of mass apeal as a reason for failure is way off base.
nobody is blaming the devs. we are suggesting that if you want the population to increase and the server to survive, you increase exp so the server appeals to more potential players. it's a simple concept really and your quote actually shows your understanding of it. i'm starting to believe you are OK with the current population.
the argument about we knew what we were getting into is a waste of time sir. you are either OK with the server population as it sits today, or you aren't. i'm all for releasing kunark and more content, but i'm not naive enough to believe it's going to bring in more players.
i'm posting as one of the players who wants to play but doesn't have the time to commit. i'm not asking for a /ding 50 command. I am asking for a compromise and believe there is a happy medium somewhere that will allow more players like me to want to log in and push to 50, without making it too easy.
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 12:04 PM
i'm posting as one of the players who wants to play but doesn't have the time to commit. i'm not asking for a /ding 50 command. I am asking for a compromise and believe there is a happy medium somewhere that will allow more players like me to want to log in and push to 50, without making it too easy.
^^^^^^^^
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-31-2012, 12:23 PM
Experience is already boosted significantly. The compromise has already occurred. You are in the happy medium between P99 Blue and P99 Red.
Experience rates are not the problem.
Massive Marc
05-31-2012, 12:29 PM
Experience is already boosted significantly. The compromise has already occurred. You are in the happy medium between P99 Blue and P99 Red.
Experience rates are not the problem.
Harrison, What is the problem then ? no flame, just wondering since you seem to know all the reason why it's not the problem.
Jabber
05-31-2012, 01:31 PM
Xp absolutely is the problem that's why I stopped lvling and just slay noobs in crushbone in my cloth robe yo
Jabber
05-31-2012, 01:32 PM
Harrison, What is the problem then ? no flame, just wondering since you seem to know all the reason why it's not the problem.
He will go on blabbering vztz reject trash and hacks don't ask that asperger anything
Tr0llb0rn
05-31-2012, 01:43 PM
Xp absolutely is the problem that's why I stopped lvling and just slay noobs in crushbone in my cloth robe yo
well classic EQ is not for everyone, thats why its classic.
xp rate on red is already MUCH higher then on blue.
I dunno what else you want? EZserver is easier i think, you should check it out.
Adding sky and then Kunark will give pvpers much more to fight over. Xp camps, good item camps, more raids to fight over.
The slow grind to 60 will give ample oportunity to pk. No more complaining about "waawawa all the lvl 50s log on for raids and then log right off" like some cry about now (yet still want to hold content back? derp)
which reminds me. the people advocateing fast xp to 60 or instant /ding 60..... you will then turn around and cry about all the raiders logging off once they down their weekly targets like you do now.
Slow xp actually HELPS pvp. Keeps people in the world xping.. so you can pvp them.
Jabber
05-31-2012, 01:48 PM
well classic EQ is not for everyone, thats why its classic.
xp rate on red is already MUCH higher then on blue.
I dunno what else you want? EZserver is easier i think, you should check it out.
Adding sky and then Kunark will give pvpers much more to fight over. Xp camps, good item camps, more raids to fight over.
The slow grind to 60 will give ample oportunity to pk. No more complaining about "waawawa all the lvl 50s log on for raids and then log right off" like some cry about now (yet still want to hold content back? derp)
which reminds me. the people advocateing fast xp to 60 or instant /ding 60..... you will then turn around and cry about all the raiders logging off once they down their weekly targets like you do now.
Slow xp actually HELPS pvp. Keeps people in the world xping.. so you can pvp them.
u dum as fuk
hagard
05-31-2012, 01:49 PM
u dum as fuk
he dont really care about the pop he just hopes everyone goes to the ez server or wow so his guild can farm pixels in peace without the threat of pvp.
a tru blu
Dullah
05-31-2012, 01:50 PM
kunark = fun for current 50's.
unfortunately it will not bring back any of the players that want to play but don't have the time to dedicate to the grind. if i don't have the time to get from 40-50 do you really think i'm going to even attempt 50-60 with these same experience rates?
listen, you said the pop would spike when hate came out... please explain the 25% drop in pop since hate was released. again, you are asking for things that only the current level 50s want, not for things that the server as a whole needs to survive.
do you understand the difference between wants and needs? kunark is something we want and i won't deny that. kunark is fun as shit, especially for melees (me). but it is not something that will bring back players and help the server.
wants vs needs.
^Clearly has no clue what kunark has to offer. Just started EQ apparently. Even harrison has a better grasp.
No one thought hate or sky was gonna bring in mass peeps, you'd have to be an idiot. After 5 months, you just have to make the jump on an accelerated timeline. The server was stagnating (losing people daily), and now the vast majority of those who played R99 have won classic EQ. There was more manastones and rubi bps than there were people...
Sitting with 100s of 50s MIA just so we can try to draw in another 20 or 30 new guys to post-legacy classic era is not working. I know a lot of the remaining are way behind and want to get easy xp to recruit to your guild, but don't be selfish... No amount of exp is going to retain population in classic at this point. There isn't enough low level population to support it. Shits cashed.
Jabber
05-31-2012, 01:50 PM
he dont really care about the pop he just hopes everyone goes to the ez server or wow so his guild can farm pixels in peace without the threat of pvp.
a tru blu
sounds like he is a fellow who lacks swag =/
hagard
05-31-2012, 01:52 PM
sounds like he is a fellow who lacks swag =/
good eye, hes 0/10 in the swag department
Tr0llb0rn
05-31-2012, 01:53 PM
u dum as fuk
Classic red EQ is just not for you im afraid.........
hagard
05-31-2012, 01:53 PM
Even harrison has a better grasp.
post lost all credibility with this comment
Ames_High_King_Gaddafi
05-31-2012, 01:53 PM
Experience is already boosted significantly. The compromise has already occurred. You are in the happy medium between P99 Blue and P99 Red.
Experience rates are not the problem.
I'll take a pastrami on rye with spicy mustard.
Jabber
05-31-2012, 01:54 PM
Classic red EQ is just not for you im afraid.........
server population is so far from classic you cant even land a group if you try
hagard
05-31-2012, 01:57 PM
Classic red EQ is just not for you im afraid.........
with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be.
yet so far from classic eq
Ames_High_King_Gaddafi
05-31-2012, 01:59 PM
I'll take a pastrami on rye with spicy mustard.
And a Dr. Browns birch beer
Ames_High_King_Gaddafi
05-31-2012, 02:01 PM
Classic red EQ is just not for you im afraid.........
Yea i remember playing on live with 25 people on my server.. in one zone... in crushbone. Go fuck yourself.
bilbobaggins
05-31-2012, 02:08 PM
^Clearly has no clue what kunark has to offer. Just started EQ apparently. Even harrison has a better grasp.
No one thought hate or sky was gonna bring in mass peeps, you'd have to be an idiot. After 5 months, you just have to make the jump on an accelerated timeline. The server was stagnating (losing people daily), and now the vast majority of those who played R99 have won classic EQ. There was more manastones and rubi bps than there were people...
Sitting with 100s of 50s MIA just so we can try to draw in another 20 or 30 new guys to post-legacy classic era is not working. I know a lot of the remaining are way behind and want to get easy xp to recruit to your guild, but don't be selfish... No amount of exp is going to retain population in classic at this point. There isn't enough low level population to support it. Shits cashed.
its like arguing with a brick wall :-/
for the hundreth time, i'm not against releasing more content (kunark). i am however arguing that it will do absolutely nothing for the population or health of the server.
but i digress, i've laid out my points for the devs to read (hopefully) and that's all i can do. we'll either get changes that will help the server and you might see the pop increase.... or... not.
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 02:29 PM
its like arguing with a brick wall :-/
for the hundreth time, i'm not against releasing more content (kunark). i am however arguing that it will do absolutely nothing for the population or health of the server.
but i digress, i've laid out my points for the devs to read (hopefully) and that's all i can do. we'll either get changes that will help the server and you might see the pop increase.... or... not.
^
I'll enjoy new content, it will be fun, and I'm sure it will bring back 15-20 nihilum (which will also kill all competition), and a few other people, but ultimately people will quit for the same reason they did before, the grind will just be too tough to bear. Again, if you can't make it past level 20 now, how are you ever going to ding out of 55?
Wolfgang
05-31-2012, 02:30 PM
meh id prefere kunark over xp but then again my goal isnt lvl 50 asap.
Angkar
05-31-2012, 03:05 PM
Harrison, What is the problem then ? no flame, just wondering since you seem to know all the reason why it's not the problem.
Lol, you think Harrison has a solution.
Wolfgang
05-31-2012, 03:13 PM
Just curious but does the guild war thing on blue work? I remember it being classic but never seen it used. If it does then maybe you could modify the code to allow 3 guilds to always be at war with one another. nvm just thought of 100 ways to abuse that
Dullah
05-31-2012, 03:31 PM
its like arguing with a brick wall :-/
for the hundreth time, i'm not against releasing more content (kunark). i am however arguing that it will do absolutely nothing for the population or health of the server.
but i digress, i've laid out my points for the devs to read (hopefully) and that's all i can do. we'll either get changes that will help the server and you might see the pop increase.... or... not.
Because you're wrong, and I won't pretend you're right.
Kunark will bring in new people who want to play kunark.
It will bring back old people who want to play kunark.
New content stands as the best way to win back people who completed all the classic content.
It will bring folks from blue who didn't want to play classic again, but want PVP.
It will take people from blue who weren't part of the uber guilds, and would like a way to compete over kunark that didn't exist on blue (PVP).
Kunark offers leveling from 1-60 and will provide new population for people to level with.
Kunark offers many pre-nerf items, thus a highly competitive timeline early on (PVP).
Kunark provides many months of raid after leveling.
Kunark balances classes, thus PVP, a ton, making melee much more viable.
Kunark offers 10x the itemization for character development/progression.
Kunark offers better resist gear as well as much more dynamic gear for PVP.
Kunark offers a new race which is huge, esp for necro and monks and will therefore contribute low level population.
Kunark offers epic quests which will bring much more highly contested content to the table later in the timeline (PVP).
Could easily double or triple this list with more time.
Please though, lets just have those few players who didn't complete classic content 4 months ago spam the forums telling us how we need more exp so they can insta 50 their friends and pad their guild to compete over content thats been completed months ago.
I'm not against bonus weekends, hot zones, removal of hybrid penalties or anything of the sort, but please, this foolishness that these things will somehow bring people to a post-legacy classic server that's already been farmed into the ground is beyond ridiculous.
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 03:33 PM
Farmed into the ground by one zerg guild that composes 75% of the level 50 pop and now wants more content to eat up uncontested. EXP is the issue.
Dullah
05-31-2012, 03:40 PM
No one wants to join your guild for a reason. Thats your problem.
Not every player wants to do the guild thing and sit around farming planes. That leaves nothing for anyone else. No ones gonna sit around and PVP over zones they farmed out just like you (24/7 u bluebie pixel farmer - ya I remember) 5 months ago.
Nihilum stayed up till 4am 4 nights in a week bind rushing getting shit on in pvp over Nagafen - I haven't seen over 15 FF since that week, prolly realised the nerds they're playing against and how not fun high end pvp is.
I will continue to log on and grief Nihil tho, but your average joe would find this loser fest disgusting =)
More content = not the answer, there is no answer, you just want to grind more ancient pixels for whatever reason.
Tr0llb0rn
05-31-2012, 03:47 PM
Nihilum stayed up till 4am 4 nights in a week bind rushing getting shit on in pvp over Nagafen - I haven't seen over 15 FF since that week, prolly realised the nerds they're playing against and how not fun high end pvp is.
I will continue to log on and grief Nihil tho, but your average joe would find this loser fest disgusting =)
High end content is not accesible to everyone in classic EQ.
Sorry. Thats how it was in 1999.
We can't "all" be the top guild on the server. :P Thats not the classic EQ way, especially on a red server.
Try WoW, I think they have instance content and you can be a "champion" and get a 1st place trophy there too, along with everyone else.
Tr0llb0rn
05-31-2012, 03:48 PM
More content = not the answer, there is no answer, you just want to grind more ancient pixels for whatever reason.
^^says the man who was lvl 50 one month into the server.
Next time enjoy the ride and journy that is everquest.
Sojourner
05-31-2012, 03:49 PM
Because you're wrong, and I won't pretend you're right.
Kunark will bring in new people who want to play kunark.
It will bring back old people who want to play kunark.
New content stands as the best way to win back people who completed all the classic content.
It will bring folks from blue who didn't want to play classic again, but want PVP.
It will take people from blue who weren't part of the uber guilds, and would like a way to compete over kunark that didn't exist on blue (PVP).
Kunark offers leveling from 1-60 and will provide new population for people to level with.
Kunark offers many pre-nerf items, thus a highly competitive timeline early on (PVP).
Kunark provides many months of raid after leveling.
Kunark balances classes, thus PVP, a ton, making melee much more viable.
Kunark offers 10x the itemization for character development/progression.
Kunark offers better resist gear as well as much more dynamic gear for PVP.
Kunark offers a new race which is huge, esp for necro and monks and will therefore contribute low level population.
Kunark offers epic quests which will bring much more highly contested content to the table later in the timeline (PVP).
Could easily double or triple this list with more time.
Please though, lets just have those few players who didn't complete classic content 4 months ago spam the forums telling us how we need more exp so they can insta 50 their friends and pad their guild to compete over content thats been completed months ago.
I'm not against bonus weekends, hot zones, removal of hybrid penalties or anything of the sort, but please, this foolishness that these things will somehow bring people to a post-legacy classic server that's already been farmed into the ground is beyond ridiculous.
Did not read, but wanted to share the story of the Great Destin:
Refer to this picture from when the server was already dead and this hardened PVE warrior was still a pup. February came, he dinged 50, joined the zerg, acquired some gear on a 50 person box - now he speaks to all that is wrong and has been wrong on the server since the beginning. Our fearless leader.
http://i49.tinypic.com/34fyyhi.png
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 03:50 PM
Actually basically everyone is the top guild on the server, at least 75-80% of the server is, and anyone can get in by hitting level 46, so not sure what there is to take pride in here. Got my nihilum invite by sending a tell to lovely saying "hey looking for invite," I guess I won the server!
Tr0llb0rn
05-31-2012, 03:52 PM
Actually basically everyone is the top guild on the server, at least 75-80% of the server is, and anyone can get in by hitting level 46, so not sure what there is to take pride in here. Got my nihilum invite by sending a tell to lovely saying "hey looking for invite," I guess I won the server!
lol keep dreaming and leading/main tanking fail naggy/vox raids with 30+ that we beat with 15.
Classic EQ might just be too hard for you.
Its ok to be satisfied with 5th place, just enjoy the journy mmk?
p.s. put me back on ignore, my posts/words are far too pure for your evil eyes.
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 03:52 PM
Did not read, but wanted to share the story of the Great Destin:
Refer to this picture from when the server was already dead and this hardened PVE warrior was still a pup. February came, he dinged 50, joined the zerg, acquired some gear on a 50 person box - now he speaks to all that is wrong and has been wrong on the server since the beginning. Our fearless leader.
http://i49.tinypic.com/34fyyhi.png
Proving what I've said since day one, Destin complete non factor, was not present for any of the actual PVP when this server was still healthy, joined Nihilum from Uprising when server was already dead, looted some planar shit uncontested on 30 person box, now thinks he's a big shot. lolz
Dullah
05-31-2012, 03:53 PM
Great story bro.
I am not saying it's wrong, or want it changed - I haven't quit and don't plan to, but people are making these big theories on why the server has a small pop, and Harrison is right - it's a loser fest here.
Mellow #1 with the biggest trophy.
I knew Destin was new but really he wasn't even 50 when we were lvling our little caster alts? Lool
Tr0llb0rn
05-31-2012, 04:01 PM
I knew Destin was new but really he wasn't even 50 when we were lvling our little caster alts? Lool
^^ got to 50 a month into server start. Then leveled more characters up.
Now so bitter. Calls others immersed.
/slaps forehead
Sounds like you put WAY more time into this box then Destin...
Who did I call immersed, I said he was a n00b
Dullah
05-31-2012, 04:26 PM
I started the server at the end of December, was 50 in under 4 weeks solo. Was present at Holo vs Nihi battles the week Holo came back from being banned.
Prior to that it was just war of the exploitations, which I was glad to not be a part of.
How does it feel to know you've had your shit pushed in in pvp and pve by the "new" guy?
So you played after the guild quit and are bragging about nothing.
casdegere
05-31-2012, 04:29 PM
Bottom line, you are not interested in playing EQ, your interested in thrashing people plain and simple. EQ is just a platform for your inbred (im guessing multiple related couplings for such a degenerated result) need to grief people. The problem is its not exactly the vessel you were looking for. People are a bit too smart to be sucked in and have better things to do than entertain your sorry ass and so you vent like a little baby that's lost it's pacifier.
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 04:40 PM
So you played after the guild quit and are bragging about nothing.
Wolfgang
05-31-2012, 04:46 PM
I gotta admit 15 players to kill vox/naggy is pretty impressive. You would think a world boss would require a guild effort and not 2-3 groups. Well I guess 2-3 groups could be considered a guild effort but it just seems like it should be more.
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 04:48 PM
Not impressive per se when you realize charm pets trivialize classic.
Wolfgang
05-31-2012, 04:51 PM
ya ive raided naggy before, i dont remember much but i for sure dont remember having charmed FGs. I just remember a ton of people.
WhereIsDestin
05-31-2012, 04:53 PM
I started the server at the end of December, was 50 in under 4 weeks solo. Was present at Holo vs Nihi battles the week Holo came back from being banned.
No you weren't.
These are from 1-24-12, you were still asking for 4 spawns in SK to breach the 40s after the big boys were finished with a two week BAN at this point on the server.
Again, Holocaust won Naggy after Nihilum exploited it with L35s in mid December for two weeks straight, was banned for two weeks, and then came back and wiped the floor with nilly on the 24th. You weren't anywhere to be seen young one. Still farming those avoceks.
http://i45.tinypic.com/m93fir.png
http://i45.tinypic.com/k2b8li.png
http://i45.tinypic.com/znphfr.png
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 04:53 PM
If I had studied p99 before I came here would've just told everyone to roll chanters/bards/clerics with one tank. Oh well.
Dullah
05-31-2012, 04:54 PM
So you played after the guild quit and are bragging about nothing.
I seem to remember over 30 Holo in fear and at Naggy on numerous occasions, all of which provided boatloads of killshot screenshots.
Was killing light blue specs to finish off for 49 the day Holo came back.
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 04:58 PM
proven liar by screenshots yet again, now claims there were 30 holo in fear on numerous occasions, there weren't even 20 people left in holo when fear came out LOL this guy just keeps makin more shit up gonna have to dig up screenshots later when done working
Tr0llb0rn
05-31-2012, 05:04 PM
Not impressive per se when you realize charm pets trivialize classic.
remember that time holo tried to "grief" nihilum by killing all the fire giants.. and ported out so damn fast their charmed LDC pet was still comming down the giant ramp for us to see when nihilum came to pvp them for the dragon lol.
And.... 15 mins later Naggy was dead anyways.
holo/heartbrand sooo bad at EQ.
yes even WITH giants heartbrands zerg of the week fails, time and time again.
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 05:09 PM
Because I can play everyone's characters for them. I've beat these raids hundreds of times, there's no fun for me in playing with people who already have them on farm status, where you just log in and punch your time card. Apparently you find that entertaining. To each their own, I prefer the struggle with newer people.
Dullah
05-31-2012, 05:22 PM
You definitely got the struggling part in EQ down pat.
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 05:27 PM
life hard with full planar gear and an undefeated pvp record on checkraise yup
SamwiseBanned
05-31-2012, 05:29 PM
how you survive the Toriste FG train yo?
Zereh
05-31-2012, 06:21 PM
...I've beat these raids hundreds of times...
You have zero raid presence on R99 right now. Z.E.R.O. Funny how all of the self-proclaimed PvP pros *I am a legend in my own mind* have no game except for a tired and desperate one with words on forums & /ooc. If you don't have the chutzpah to back up your mouth with any action you may want to consider keeping it shut.
There were more epic fights on Blue over raid content than there have ever been on Red . It took three years for the dust to settle over there ~ you guys didn't last six months. And before you bring up the lame suspension scenario as an excuse for your colossal failure find out how many suspensions the underdogs on Blue sat through. Even the lowly bluebies were bright enough and wanted it enough to get right back up and into the fray. Big bad PvP bitches here just rolled over and went submissive. =/ The only time you're brash these days is when you're begging for faster, easier XP on a server you hate, which is ran by a staff you despise, for a game you "don't even bother to play".
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 06:22 PM
PVE PVE PVE PVE PVE PVE PVE PVE.
Zereh
05-31-2012, 06:26 PM
So you're still insisting the people want to PvP over ... nothing? If that was the case this server would be a screaming success!
Dullah
05-31-2012, 06:27 PM
Trolls just got slain by Zarah.
i want to penetrate zarah so bad
Stop lusting after our cleric. She's ours.
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-31-2012, 06:33 PM
What's the word for Janitor in Spanish?
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 06:40 PM
Picture taken January 27th, resident forum champion Rettiwalk, talkin big smack about all of his huge PVP battles he has taken place in this server, still out of range to a level 50 after server pop had already died and everyone left:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5963/rettiwalk.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/rettiwalk.jpg/)
heartbrand
05-31-2012, 06:49 PM
I love this one, taken moments after HB 1 on 4, with 2 OOR healers, I kill both their in range guys, as they stand there QQ'ing, talkin bout PVE on a PVP server. Confirmed bunch of non-factors
http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/5893/stilloor.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/861/stilloor.jpg/)
Zereh
05-31-2012, 06:56 PM
[Thu Jan 26 17:43:35 2012] You told zarah, 'reported for 2boxing'
[Thu Jan 26 17:43:53 2012] Zarah tells you, 'haha Ok Good luck with that'
[Thu Jan 26 17:44:00 2012] You told Zarah, 'REPORTED BITCH!!!!'
[Thu Jan 26 18:09:52 2012] You told zarah '[queued], reported'
[Thu Jan 26 16:43:48 2012] Illi tells you, 'reported for 2boxing'
[Thu Jan 26 16:44:05 2012] You told Illi, 'haha Ok Good luck with that'
[Thu Jan 26 16:44:13 2012] Illi tells you, 'REPORTED BITCH!!!!'
Dullah
05-31-2012, 07:22 PM
Damn Don Juan, ease up.
34 people on 7pm est, shit's getting rough.
bamzal
05-31-2012, 07:40 PM
pfft theres enough content on foums
SamwiseBanned
05-31-2012, 09:45 PM
8 people on red69, xp winning
SamwiseBanned
05-31-2012, 09:51 PM
10 people now, need big Maze
swagdaddy
06-01-2012, 12:24 AM
10 people now, need big Maze
http://i.imgur.com/NdNXW.png
Hmmmmm, considering srs considering
PhantomRogue
06-01-2012, 07:26 AM
So you're still insisting the people want to PvP over ... nothing? If that was the case this server would be a screaming success!
Theres no one to PvP. Its not that there is no content to PvP over, its that there are NO PEOPLE to PvP.
Nihilum has no comprehension. Keep asking for PvE, because THATS why people play on a PvP server, for the PvE.
Dullah
06-01-2012, 09:48 AM
Theres no one to PvP. Its not that there is no content to PvP over, its that there are NO PEOPLE to PvP.
Nihilum has no comprehension. Keep asking for PvE, because THATS why people play on a PvP server, for the PvE.
People play for both actually, just like it was in classic. PVP is for fighting over PVE, otherwise, PVP means next to nothing. If people want nonstop pvp, theres plenty of fps out there or WoW arenas and battlegrounds. Thats sounds like it would be right up your alley, and for the rest of the custom server crowd. This, however, is Everquest.
Welcome to Everquest.
Massive Marc
06-01-2012, 09:57 AM
People play for both actually, just like it was in classic. PVP is for fighting over PVE, otherwise, PVP means next to nothing. If people want nonstop pvp, theres plenty of fps out there or WoW arenas and battlegrounds. Thats sounds like it would be right up your alley, and for the rest of the custom server crowd. This, however, is Everquest.
Welcome to Everquest.
You guys are so fucking transparent, it's laughable.
bilbobaggins
06-01-2012, 10:18 AM
If people want nonstop pvp, theres plenty of fps out there or WoW arenas and battlegrounds. Thats sounds like it would be right up your alley, and for the rest of the custom server crowd. This, however, is Everquest.
Welcome to Everquest.
Devs please read this and understand that the 2 posters so adamantly arguing against increasing the exp rate continually tell people who want to play on this server to go play other games.
clearly not concerned about increasing population and only concerned with adding more lvl 50 content for them to farm uncontested.
needs vs wants.
what the level 50s want is not the same as what the server needs to survive.
PhantomRogue
06-01-2012, 10:25 AM
People play for both actually, just like it was in classic. PVP is for fighting over PVE, otherwise, PVP means next to nothing. If people want nonstop pvp, theres plenty of fps out there or WoW arenas and battlegrounds. Thats sounds like it would be right up your alley, and for the rest of the custom server crowd. This, however, is Everquest.
Welcome to Everquest.
If I wanted to Kill dragons uncontested like you and the rest of your dumbass Guild wants to, id be on BLUE1999 (OH WAIT, The original members of Nihilum left Blue because of the spawn competition). We are in the PvP Version of EQ. We want PvP with a sprinkle of PvE. PvP requires people. Red99 is suffering due to lack of people, not lack of content.
nabsev
06-01-2012, 10:25 AM
Destin if you don't want to pvp there are plenty of PvE games out there.
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 10:30 AM
Thankfully EQ is a mmorpg which means you cannot beat the game, you cannot win, there are no game created goals or what not, it's up to each individual player to create his own goals and definitions of victory / fun. In this case the vast majority of the players are saying we want changes which will encourage PVP for the sake of PVP. The tribe had spoken destin, please bring me your torch, it's time for you to leave.
hijinks
06-01-2012, 10:35 AM
Here is a simple solution:
Make news of a 200-300% xp bonus a week ahead of time before it goes live. Implement it for ONE month, consider and look at the turnout if it doesn't improve population, scrap it.. if it does, let it linger another month and hopefully it motivates more people to play.
I've leveled multiple 50s, it's not terribly hard but then again they were all casters. I could care less if they implement an xp bonus for a month or two if it actually brings new players into the world, I don't care for it if it's just going to make people level up alts faster. It would need to be something closely monitored by devs, but I believe giving a several week advance notice of it would help turn players to it.
I was against it initially, but really it is obvious the server is in dire need of something that would shock the population or any potential players, and that would be a serious EXP bonus. I know it goes against the grain of classic, but classic pop was never 40 people on primetime. For the people that say it devalues their time or the time it took them to get 50, who seriously gives a shit when this server has basically turned into a single player experience?
I'll sum it up with one quote:
"Drastic times calls for drastic measures"
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 10:38 AM
Another quality post by hijinx.
hijinks
06-01-2012, 10:52 AM
I just think if nothing drastic is done that people have been jumping up and down shouting and yelling for, then it's painfully obvious free or not, that the devs here are a bunch of knuckle-hard-headed people that only want to do things their way or the highway.
That type of ideology does not breathe life into the server and only detracts from players confidence in anything ever being done or changed. I log in every now and then and immediately log off with absolutely no motivation to play. PvPing the same 40 people is not something I'm interested in. I never played on a previous EMU and took this project on die hard dedicated, and unfortunately as much as I hate to admit they had a point or their method of delivering it, many players that have quit here were right and almost prophesied the eventual state of red99. Any further non-action will continue to dwindle the population until you just have a handful of players that are content with farming content by themselves. Sounds like fun.
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 11:00 AM
Any further non-action will continue to dwindle the population until you just have a handful of players that are content with farming content by themselves. Sounds like fun.
And this is exactly the type of server some of the nihilum talkin heads are trying desperately to create.
jdklaw
06-01-2012, 11:09 AM
temporary xp boosts A+
And this is exactly the type of server some of the nihilum talkin heads are trying desperately to create.
you have a serious problem
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 11:13 AM
must be that time of day for jdklaw to come on board and start shouting mad and angry at everyone in every thread with multiple uninteresting jpegs to mask his own anger
jdklaw
06-01-2012, 11:17 AM
must be that time of day for jdklaw to come on board and start shouting mad and angry at everyone in every thread with multiple uninteresting jpegs to mask his own anger
http://www.insiderinternetdating.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/haha.png
Bhubbles
06-01-2012, 11:35 AM
How about working on something to prevent all this low level greifing. Yes twinks with a Mithril Two hander and 130 MR are going to win against a fine steel morning star and banded everytime. Why grief the shit out of all the new players that come to our server.
"Dude watch me root this new guy on mobs." Our population is so low because we make this a place only for the truly insane. Who would want to start here with the number of retards that have twinks from 10-39 who will just grief you in any way possible every single time they see you.
Its the equivilent of a full grown lion hunting a gazelle with no legs. No sport - no fun. If this keeps up and I believe its already to late since there is a bad taste in so many peoples mouths then we will dwindle to nothing.
I am all for more content and YT is atleast worth a shot, but lets get a handle on not making this a rape fest for new players as well!
Dullah
06-01-2012, 11:45 AM
I'm not against exp bonuses, exp tweaks regarding hybrids and so forth, but the same stale content isn't going to bring new people. Truth is, we don't mind the present content (pof/poh/pos), but not everyone is there, the present competition is pretty flaky, and many people simply dont have the time to raid it. Thus, it leaves the rest of Norrath a virtual ghost town. Hundreds of people have come and gone through r99's classic content. Kunark on the other hand, isn't just raid content (though several idiots are pretending it is); in fact, initially its not raid content at all, but a lot of stuff everyone can enjoy and compete over. Its content that the masses can participate in, from 1-60, rather than just the hardcore that want to raid.
Contrary to what the trolls say, we want content everyone can enjoy and pvp over while the opposition wants to beach r99 here so they can finally muster up the manpower to "win classic" (u already lost).
We pvp every time the opposition can muster up a force (unlike Fartbrand who hides out farming cash and pixels unless he thinks he has 100% chance of pvp victory). Problem is, any time we look to fight outside of dragons, the opposition all logs out and runs to the forums about how we bluebies are the only ones online "farming pixels uncontested".
The servers down to a couple dozen casuals, a few people who haven't leveled up yet and two hardcore guilds who raid and pvp. The other 80% of the population left, aside from various personal qualms, because they were done with what was available in classic. Its easy to grow discontent when you have nothing left but GvG pvp and Planes, and you don't have the time or desire to do either. That crowd is alienated.
You can put all the icing on classic EQ you want, fact is, kunark is the cake and classic has gone stale for most players. The only people contrary are those who showed up late, or who've been stomped on for months. Keep trying to find ways to resurrect classic so you can finally win what you've already lost. Fact is, most of you are so full of shit, its coming out your ears. Last night 15-20 of you knew exactly where Nihilum was, but what did you do? You chose to go to plane of hate instead of attacking us in fear. Bunch of big talking pussies who can't put their money where their mouth is.
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 11:50 AM
In this wall of text Dullah fails to point out of that Nihilum made up approx 65% of the server last night
Wamorn
06-01-2012, 11:52 AM
Im willing to bet theres less,people griefed off the server by twinks than people that quit due to slow ass exp. In fact, I havent seen a NEW player in the 20s for over a month. Its all alts.
Dullah
06-01-2012, 11:55 AM
In this wall of text Dullah fails to point out of that Nihilum made up approx 65% of the server last night
Moar lies.
We had 18, FF had 16.
still batting 1000 on lying posts
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 12:08 PM
^ proven liar by actual screenshots and logs on forums
Ames_High_King_Gaddafi
06-01-2012, 12:11 PM
Lots of unemployment up in this thread
jdklaw
06-01-2012, 02:13 PM
Moar lies.
We had 18, FF had 16.
still batting 1000 on lying posts
hb is retarded
Mornin3.0
06-01-2012, 02:45 PM
Here is a simple solution:
Make news of a 200-300% xp bonus a week ahead of time before it goes live. Implement it for ONE month, consider and look at the turnout if it doesn't improve population, scrap it.. if it does, let it linger another month and hopefully it motivates more people to play.
I've leveled multiple 50s, it's not terribly hard but then again they were all casters. I could care less if they implement an xp bonus for a month or two if it actually brings new players into the world, I don't care for it if it's just going to make people level up alts faster. It would need to be something closely monitored by devs, but I believe giving a several week advance notice of it would help turn players to it.
I was against it initially, but really it is obvious the server is in dire need of something that would shock the population or any potential players, and that would be a serious EXP bonus. I know it goes against the grain of classic, but classic pop was never 40 people on primetime. For the people that say it devalues their time or the time it took them to get 50, who seriously gives a shit when this server has basically turned into a single player experience?
I'll sum it up with one quote:
"Drastic times calls for drastic measures"
Been saying this for months..
Aftering eating a death by Mornin.. Hijinx quickly becoming smartest Nihilum player....
Nirgon
06-01-2012, 03:25 PM
It was obvious when it was obvious dawg.
Key word here being WAS.
(XP on death instead of item loot dumb)
(guard faction / resists on root+stun+whirl, dumb)
To quote a great man loosely
"Comes to play classic EverQuest server, [leaves] when it is [NOT] classic"
Sektor
06-01-2012, 03:34 PM
Been saying this for months..
Aftering eating a death by Mornin.. Hijinx quickly becoming smartest Nihilum player....
I've also agreed on an xp bonus and stated in a couple of post's that I disagreed with Rettiwalk.
I've been working on trying to get new player's, hopefully if they decide to make it a bit easier to level it will be easier for me and most others to attract new players and returning players to come back. The server will become more populated and later on due to the high pop rate will end up getting an expansion, work's out for everyone imo. The first step is convincing the higher up's to boost the xp.
hijinks
06-01-2012, 03:35 PM
Been saying this for months..
Aftering eating a death by Mornin.. Hijinx quickly becoming smartest Nihilum player....
Good sir-- there is not a PvP death corpse of Hijinx on this server. Period. I'd even go as far to say that they can't even dig one up through their logs, it. just. doesn't. exist.
But yea. deadbox =/
hijinks
06-01-2012, 04:13 PM
same issues that were brought up 5 months ago that were killing the server, are still an issue.
who woulda thunk it
Didn't help that you and your crew quit so easily. Not a knock, but I was expecting a lil more dedication .. Yes, I whole heartedly agree that the server has issues, and many things are broken-- but the truth is if you want to play on a classic EQ box with PvP, r99 is it.
The >20 or so Holocaust that quit did definitely make the server less interesting, at least for me and some other people who liked the PvP and the contested raids. As soon as it became just farming gear I and others peaced out. But there are larger things at hand here and players not involved in that whole song n dance that quit for a plethora of reasons related to the server, and some of the people that handle it. Oh well.
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 04:20 PM
I mean, the GM disbanded us for doing the exact same Nihilum had done for a month, suspended everyone present and banned the officers. What had been an equal footing for PVP up to that point became insurmountable when it was finally undone and nihilum had doubled in size with all max 50's and dragon loot. Was over. No one wanted to play on a server where decisions like that could be made on the spot.
PhantomRogue
06-01-2012, 04:34 PM
Couple things. Heartbrand is right. Holocaust didn't quit. They were banned for doing what Nihilumn was doing for WEEKS, without punishment. GMs overracted, and that was the straw that broke the camels back for most of those people.
The fact that people exploited to get to 50, then after a week or so, they ban the people who were still doing it, and NOT the people who originally did it. Another reason people quit. (Either ban all, or none)
Resists were BROKE, hardcore. And I mean BROKE. We all know this. This made alot of people leave (mostly melee).
You add all those up and you just have a giant gouge in the population. One in which, that when people her about Classic EQ PvP Experience... they see all these threads and bitching... and just say "fuck it, I'm not even going to attempt to play now."
There was a lot of stuff wrong. But there are still people interested. But they need enticed back. And its NOT with kunark. Its with getting people here, getting people to STAY here. And you do that by alleviating the un-necessarily long treadmill that is EQ.
Instead of a 500 Mile race, make it a 300 Mile race. Because the race is only the precursor to the REAL fun of Red99, the PvP. You want people to stay for the fun, not be driven off by the 500 mile borefest.
jdklaw
06-01-2012, 04:51 PM
Lets try having XP boosted weekends and see how things go after awhile. It was always a nice suprise to get those when they were gifted.
It's probably hard for staff to convince themselves to reward the bad child that is this community with the constant bullshiting and flaming, so maybe changing the approach will get more of a response from them.
Just a thought.
hijinks
06-01-2012, 04:53 PM
Yup at this point I think most can agree that a SERIOUS exp bonus is in order, otherwise it's just a shame because it's a solid platform on a solid box, it just drives me all kinds of nuts when you think they supposedly make this server to appease to players, but its the very people that spend time on their project and yell and shout for changes that get st8 snubbed with no answers, and when we do get an answer its.. "well it doesn't fall within our vision" (ie YT)
Who gives a shit, I just realized that as a whole they really don't give a F because I can't see how you can watch the population continue to dwindle and do absolutely nothing about it, or worse tell yourself it was a success. I don't care that it's free really, hell I know it's not possible for legal reasons but I wouldn't mind paying to have a staff that actually actively made changes and configured the server for the masses
SamwiseBanned
06-01-2012, 05:04 PM
http://www.karmaswrestlingretro.com/mortis.jpg
jdklaw
06-01-2012, 05:05 PM
immersed
SamwiseBanned
06-01-2012, 05:10 PM
http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/b/brood/07.jpg
Mornin3.0
06-01-2012, 05:13 PM
It's probably hard for staff to convince themselves to reward the bad child that is this community with the constant bullshiting and flaming, so maybe changing the approach will get more of a response from them.
Just a thought.
Hope your looking in the mirror...
For the rest of you... Sure lets all agree that a big Exp bonus is in order.. LOL we have been agreeing on that for months... Bluebies finally starting to see big picture..
Simple fact is Rogean.... does not give a fuck-Kringe.... Server was dead the moment Lovely exploited to 50 and still to this day is not banned...
Keep having the same conversation on the forums.. Nilbog will simply read it.. and ignore it.. and not care about your opinion cause it isnt your project and the population is obviously not an issue cause Blue had a low population from the start and grew to over 700.. (last part was words of Amelinda.. I am not dumb enough to spew out something so ignant).
Want to make changes on the server??? shoulda listened to Cast more imo.. as unorthodox as his tactics were..
server dead gtfo
SamwiseBanned
06-01-2012, 05:16 PM
sorry Mornin but Cast is a confirmed moron and not welcome to join Red69's <Holocaust>.
Dullah
06-01-2012, 05:17 PM
Hope your looking in the mirror...
For the rest of you... Sure lets all agree that a big Exp bonus is in order.. LOL we have been agreeing on that for months... Bluebies finally starting to see big picture..
Simple fact is Rogean.... does not give a fuck-Kringe.... Server was dead the moment Lovely exploited to 50 and still to this day is not banned...
Keep having the same conversation on the forums.. Nilbog will simply read it.. and ignore it.. and not care about your opinion cause it isnt your project and the population is obviously not an issue cause Blue had a low population from the start and grew to over 700.. (last part was words of Amelinda.. I am not dumb enough to spew out something so ignant).
Want to make changes on the server??? shoulda listened to Cast more imo.. as unorthodox as his tactics were..
server dead gtfo
^confirmed bluebie. Farming pixels right now while the Top Dogs are online everywhere rolling your brethren.
Having exp bonus weekends and so forth can't hurt, but its not the solution. It doesn't fix the reason all the 40-50s that have played, arent playing. It certainly doesn't give them a reason to come back or a way to sustain high lvl population...
Keep pretending you trolls got a clue though. For all their neglect, at least the devs aren't as dumb as you.
Zereh
06-01-2012, 05:22 PM
/autolevel50 and /gimmedragongodloot commands are what it takes to make people compete? Bluebie guilds have more drive and persistence. LOL Change what server you play on instead of asking the server to change to fit you.
bilbobaggins
06-01-2012, 05:27 PM
/autolevel50 and /gimmedragongodloot commands are what it takes to make people compete? Bluebie guilds have more drive and persistence. LOL Change what server you play on instead of asking the server to change to fit you.
what a retarded post.
have you read any pages of this thread?
SamwiseBanned
06-01-2012, 05:29 PM
meh red69 gots sevrer pop problems too but everything people been wanting is there. global ooc, YT, increased XP WITH hotzones. alot more. people gonna hack no matter if there is the dll or not. however those people can be easily banned with proof.
bilbobaggins
06-01-2012, 05:30 PM
Keep pretending you trolls got a clue though. For all their neglect, at least the devs aren't as dumb as you.
keep calling the people trying to save the server trolls. genius.
bilbobaggins
06-01-2012, 05:36 PM
its the weekend bitches time to get my swag on!!!!!
maybe i'll hop on some eq and try to get out of level 40. wrarior lfg.
Zereh
06-01-2012, 05:54 PM
I'm not a lemming who believes that easier is better. "We're too lazy to earn it so give it to us" != a fix. Crying for an XP boost is like begging for a band-aid to take care of a severed artery.
EMUs have a limited pool of players to begin with, even more so when it is further diluted by needing niche PvP players. People have already proven they will play here. But until some of your suggestions are realistic enough to include ways of enticing established players back or ideas about retaining current players -- it's a waste of time and effort.
A true "fix" for the server would not alienate existing accounts and should encourage new ones to be made.
PhantomRogue
06-01-2012, 06:12 PM
I'm not a lemming who believes that easier is better. "We're too lazy to earn it so give it to us" != a fix. Crying for an XP boost is like begging for a band-aid to take care of a severed artery.
EMUs have a limited pool of players to begin with, even more so when it is further diluted by needing niche PvP players. People have already proven they will play here. But until some of your suggestions are realistic enough to include ways of enticing established players back or ideas about retaining current players -- it's a waste of time and effort.
A true "fix" for the server would not alienate existing accounts and should encourage new ones to be made.
People proved they wanted to play here... WHEN THERE WERE PEOPLE TO PLAY WITH.
Get this through your thick fucking skull.
PvP requires people. And People aren't sticking around when there is no one on to PvP. If we wanted to go to Kunark, we would go play Blue99. We want to PvP, thus we are here.
People who left at 50, are NOT going to come back, just to grind to 60 and then still try to fight the same Nihilum Zerg over Trak instead of Vox.
People want the oppurtunity to get a chance to fight the 50s. No one is asking for a "/setlevel 50" command. Even with 200% bonus to exp, it would still take a substantial time investment to get to 50.
I just find it funny, that you and DumbassDullah keep calling everyone bluebies, but all you bitch about is lack of CONTENT, and not lack of PvP. ::shifty-eyes::
Tr0llb0rn
06-01-2012, 06:16 PM
I'm not a lemming who believes that easier is better. "We're too lazy to earn it so give it to us" != a fix. Crying for an XP boost is like begging for a band-aid to take care of a severed artery.
EMUs have a limited pool of players to begin with, even more so when it is further diluted by needing niche PvP players. People have already proven they will play here. But until some of your suggestions are realistic enough to include ways of enticing established players back or ideas about retaining current players -- it's a waste of time and effort.
A true "fix" for the server would not alienate existing accounts and should encourage new ones to be made.
wise words.
Turning this server into something OTHER then classic red EQ (i.e. ez xp) would just drive away the true fans who came here for 1999 style red.
Content is king, build it and they will come.
Let us not listen to the trolls who can't even get past level 30 with the existing very generous xp bonus. They wont be happy until /insta 50.
Dullah
06-01-2012, 06:17 PM
People proved they wanted to play here... WHEN THERE WERE PEOPLE TO PLAY WITH.
Get this through your thick fucking skull.
PvP requires people. And People aren't sticking around when there is no one on to PvP.
blah more foolishness
You do realize the folly of this statement don't you?
There were people, they were here, they left because people weren't here to pvp (???), now people don't want to log in because theres no one here to pvp?
You do realize that effect requires cause, and theres a cause missing between people being here, pvping, and not playing because no one is here to pvp with.
Cause: theres nothing worth pvping over, shit was farmed out, then legacy was removed on top of it.
Simple, unless you have the IQ of a houseplant.
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 06:18 PM
^confirmed bluebie. Farming pixels right now while the Top Dogs are online everywhere rolling your brethren.
Having exp bonus weekends and so forth can't hurt, but its not the solution. It doesn't fix the reason all the 40-50s that have played, arent playing. It certainly doesn't give them a reason to come back or a way to sustain high lvl population...
Keep pretending you trolls got a clue though. For all their neglect, at least the devs aren't as dumb as you.
Yes, it has been quite the glorious day for Team Nihilum, (Note: The Following Pictures Provided To You Courtesy Of BIG PLAYS CHECKRAISE)
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/7480/bigplaycheckraise.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/bigplaycheckraise.jpg/)
PRESENTS
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1458/murderappledown.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/265/murderappledown.jpg/)
Ooooooops, PVE not so ez with PVP amirite? Team HB 1, Team Nihilum 0, (glorious watching them wipe 6x to a mob I solo)
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8976/advisordown.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/advisordown.jpg/)
Yikes.....But he has full apothic? How could he lose? Didn't he win EverQuest? I mean he has killed the Gods?
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8937/advisordown3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/526/advisordown3.jpg/)
Lookin for dat boat.... guess he wasn't prepared for PVP....
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8642/advisordown2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/advisordown2.jpg/)
ooops again
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5236/advisordown4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/advisordown4.jpg/)
and again....
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7122/advisordown5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/advisordown5.jpg/)
and again.......
by the way, thanks for leaving all the kedge named up, checkraise now rocking a glorious 35 save cold cloak and a lucky FF cleric wearing a +9 wis neck, soloed by yours truly, the master of PVE and PVP, bringer of the BIG PLAYS, Heartbrand.
Tr0llb0rn
06-01-2012, 06:21 PM
I made it to 40 in 2 weeks leveling easily
And there you have it.
XP is not the issue. This new player made it to 40 in two weeks.
Lets get to the real issue: majority who quit , quit because they have played out the existing content and they are waiting on the sidelines for kunark.
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 06:22 PM
Oh well, maybe yesterday was Nihilum's day? Certainly wasn't this guys tho....
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6990/ooooops.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/535/ooooops.jpg/)
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 06:23 PM
And there you have it.
XP is not the issue. This new player made it to 40 in two weeks.
Lets get to the real issue: majority who quit , quit because they have played out the existing content and they are waiting on the sidelines for kunark.
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6990/ooooops.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/535/ooooops.jpg/)
Mornin3.0
06-01-2012, 06:24 PM
bump
PhantomRogue
06-01-2012, 06:47 PM
And there you have it.
XP is not the issue. This new player made it to 40 in two weeks.
Lets get to the real issue: majority who quit , quit because they have played out the existing content and they are waiting on the sidelines for kunark.
He was a twink from blue, traded for a ton of red plat.
There you have it. He was NOT new, he did not have to start from scratch.
This server has ZERO true new Red99 players. That is the bane of this server, and why it will continue to decline in population.
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 06:59 PM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2373/applesaucedown.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/applesaucedown.jpg/)
And there you have it.
XP is not the issue. This new player made it to 40 in two weeks.
Lets get to the real issue: majority who quit , quit because they have played out the existing content and they are waiting on the sidelines for kunark.
LOL.
What his /played?
What class?
Twink? PL?
fuck this box
Renian
06-01-2012, 07:04 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/24yadxv.jpg
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 07:06 PM
Not me on zibby nice try
Dullah
06-01-2012, 07:09 PM
Its only him on Zibby when he kills somebody.
Otherwise, its his little brother.
Ordaga
06-01-2012, 07:12 PM
yes and uh that wasnt me on ordaga when you wall nuked me....
I pvp over pve sometimes i win sometimes i dont just the way it works
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 07:12 PM
Fact: Zibby is not my character nor has it ever been, there is a real zibby who plays infrequently. Over ten people had zibby's info including Mornin krushin Lewis vamael cinda hammertime. Thats why I lol hard when you guys threaten whoever is on zibby that he will be banned for boxing when I'm on my actual character.
Ordaga
06-01-2012, 07:14 PM
yes and those ss's of you playing zibby were someone else right?
Tr0llb0rn
06-01-2012, 07:15 PM
He was a twink from blue, traded for a ton of red plat.
There you have it. He was NOT new, he did not have to start from scratch.
This server has ZERO true new Red99 players. That is the bane of this server, and why it will continue to decline in population.
well there is good news then it sounds like, YOU have the power to help "new" players by being a good community member and giving them some items to help them level, maybe some plat for spells.
Problem solved, the classic EQ community way.
Not with WoW ez xp.
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 07:15 PM
No someone else took them then emailed them to me moran
SamwiseBanned
06-01-2012, 07:16 PM
50 easily obtainable in 2-3 weeks for casuals. server meant for pvp. if pvp interests you follow me to red69. got comments? devnewb on now just talk to him
Ordaga
06-01-2012, 07:19 PM
wow your as bad a speller as illi, yea and that ss of me killn mornin was emailed to me as well that wasnt me at all
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 07:21 PM
Trolled by intentional typos imbecil
Ordaga
06-01-2012, 07:30 PM
suuuure i meant to do that all i hear is excuse after excuse, time to nut up or shut up
Mornin3.0
06-01-2012, 07:35 PM
wow your as bad a speller as illi, yea and that ss of me killn mornin was emailed to me as well that wasnt me at all
So you posted a SS of someone else killing me on ur character...?
and i woulda took credit for that kill.. gained little respect for u for that one even if it was in mass pvp and my resources were spent due to killing other nihilum..
Ordaga
06-01-2012, 07:40 PM
no dude im simply useing hb's excuses to prove how full of shit he is that was me
heartbrand
06-01-2012, 07:41 PM
If you don't get the internet irony of intentionally trolling someone by misspelling the word "moran" then you're dumber than I thought. I used the same tactic on Supreme and we all know what happened to him when it sent him off the deep end...
SamwiseBanned
06-01-2012, 07:43 PM
red69 up to 15 people, devnewb makin big changes, listens to players
Tr0llb0rn
06-01-2012, 07:56 PM
Lets see if Heartbrand starts playing on red 69
lolz
Please be sure to report back to us, heartbrand, on how the pop there is booming without that "evil red99 classic xp" standing in the way.
Waiting on that report.......
Ordaga
06-01-2012, 08:09 PM
its cool man you just ooze stupid and sad
Ordaga
06-01-2012, 08:23 PM
i am who the name says been in serv since open who are you some random lowbie punk who thinks he knows shit?
Mornin3.0
06-01-2012, 08:25 PM
so confused....
HB did call supreme a moran and supreme went off deep end and is now banned so.... weird but proven troll technique..
Ordaga
06-01-2012, 08:28 PM
any way this is getting off topic xp boosts may be nice all its really gona accomplish is more alts in guilds kunark would be nice but honestly the only thing that will help is less cry baby bitchs and more people who want to play eq not turn it into the casual wow in eq skin
Tr0llb0rn
06-01-2012, 08:54 PM
"lowbie punk" lol you think ur important, thats why this server is gay because of bluebie neckbeards like you.
Way too immersed in the 200 hour grind to 50 server.
^^ nerd got to 40 in two weeks , now enraged he has already been griefed off the server.
All that marathon grinding for nothing.
tears
Zereh
06-01-2012, 09:06 PM
since u all got griefed off of blue99
Unlike you and your ilk I don't burn bridges and shit on the people I've gamed with. =) I have options.
Dullah
06-01-2012, 09:10 PM
Keep begging for fixes, it only took what 6 months of begging to get global /ooc?
Maybe in a year you can have the increased exp the server needs.
Already got the exp bonus, it did nothing for the pop. Not even close. Didn't even peak the interest of any new players. Did however facilitate the leveling of dozens of alts.
Silly new guy dont know shit.
Tr0llb0rn
06-01-2012, 09:17 PM
Already got the exp bonus, it did nothing for the pop. Not even close. Didn't even peak the interest of any new players. Did however facilitate the leveling of dozens of alts.
Silly new guy dont know shit.
For maze's eyes only ^^
Tr0llb0rn
06-01-2012, 09:19 PM
yeah option 1 raid on blue99 in zerg guild (not fun old content that is easy as fuck that we all did on live)
option 2 raid on blue99 2.0 in zerg guild (not fun old content that is easy as fuck that we all did on live)
Neither involve pvp
Poor lvl 40 noob, never got to experience stuff like this:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=75206
All recent mass pvp videos within.
You sound kinda mad that you got GRIEFED OFF THE SERVER before joining in the fun.
Oh well .. maybe red69 will have them? (lol)
gloinz
06-01-2012, 09:29 PM
49 pages of dumb bluebies thinkin the xp rate should stay the same (or less to classic rates) with 10 person average server pop being more than adequate
lethdar
06-01-2012, 09:29 PM
http://oi47.tinypic.com/2r5qiw8.jpg
Ordaga
06-02-2012, 12:51 AM
[QUOTE=SaphiraNIL;658211]Ordaga is one of the worst players we encountered on Red99.
This player could have easilly been the twobox or helmet wearing brother of Mellowyellow.
http://gickr.com/results3/anim_dc0e9b15-da8e-0d24-6594-d4846b8b09e0.gif
ghasp pvp on pvp server over ee down in lguk 5 caster classes vs 1 warrior (not that it matters but b4 resist patch) and im the terribe one right
Dullah
06-02-2012, 12:56 AM
Can be assumed that occurs when a player is out of pumice. Or at least, one would hope.
Ordaga
06-02-2012, 01:02 AM
its cool man you'll never hear me claim to be god at pvp
Big news goin on in the community, my attempt at optimism was wrong? Wtf lol.
http://oi47.tinypic.com/2r5qiw8.jpg
LOL
Dullah
06-02-2012, 03:33 AM
Still same problem as above. Unless you want to poopsock dragons or farm planes all night, you have nothing else to do; not even legacy. All "hardcore pvpers" griefed off server.
Average player has no reason to log in -classic cashed, bring on kunark.
Ordaga
06-02-2012, 10:10 AM
hate to tell you but all you did was snare a warrior in a grp of mobs then were lucky enough to get the killing blow which actually saved me from an xp death, and as i recall on the the same corpse retrieval you couldnt even kill me naked had to get someone else to come kill me so sad
Rushmore
10-04-2012, 07:45 PM
This whole thread is a Developer trolling people (Who almost all have quit since thread) and telling them to play other games because they wanted the population problem solved.
Project 1999 PvP
Status:
Players: UP
41
http://www.dxpnet.com/i.asp?f=http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/facepalm/grand/mma_facepalm_gif.gif
when did you become such a faggot?
Cwall
10-04-2012, 07:50 PM
wondering the same thing about you rushmore
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