Best - twinked out cleric

[Volga]

So this jack ass Best ( 14 human cleric with all the toys) joins our group - I spend my last mana refreshing the SoW on the puller and announce I'm going afk for a piss since we have a new healer.

When I didn't (couldn't) fullfill his request for a SoW he /ragequits on the group while I'm afk and the others are mid pull..

http://www.netwargames.com/best.jpg

I know a twinked out uber dude like you will never need a SoW or Port from me but you sir.. are a piece of shit.

May you be dipped in scalding hot diarrhea and forced to listen to Barry Manilow 8-Tracks for the rest of your days.

Tylaric

[kab88]

Wow.... cant believe you posted that lol.

Sommoner.

[Brut]

Much emphasis on twinkdom. What'd he have?

[Volga]

I don't inspect people - was wearin a pretty blue robe, MM shield, and had a mask that made him a skelly for mana which I'm told is pretty hard to get..

[JayDee]

Maybe next time you should buff people when they ask repeatedly ?

[Sadface]

Lol OP

You are making yourself look stupid.

[Volga]

Lol OP

You are making yourself look stupid.

well I'm no mensa member thats true - but I fail to see how point out this doosh makes me look stupid .

[Serith]

well I'm no mensa member thats true - but I fail to see how point out this doosh makes me look stupid .

He doesn't. While it was inconsiderate not to SoW him when he asked for it before going AFK, it wasn't reason enough to quit out of a group unless he's been repeatedly ignored.

Also, why does a cleric need SoW for? Was your group constantly moving?

Also: that's*, douche*

[Dabamf]

NOT a cool story bro

[Volga]

no - the group was stationary for the previous 3 hours - we weren't going anywhere. I needed a leak and LOM - I buffed the puller before I left which put me oom.

yea - I know the spelling, I like the "icanhascheezburger" spelling better though =)

[Volga]

NOT a cool story bro

maybe not - I was grouped with good people and I thought they deserved better. this guy comes along with his attitude and acted like he owned the place, pulled his stunt and it pissed me off and i'm just expressing that here.

Prior to this I've met some amazing people on this server and I hope that trend continues...

[Kanor]

Are you one of those stupid druids who spams nukes in groups and goes afk for prolonged periods of time ?

I am no detective but looks like that to me

[Volga]

well those who have grouped with me will know different.

[Nedala]

when he asks for sow he gets it

hahah i laughed so hard.

Best your the only person i will NEVER give a sow. Welcome on my shitlist.

Sorry but WTF? I dont sow my clerics or anyone who doesnt need it if we dont move and im lom, thats just a mana waste. And there is no fucking reason to ragequit the group because "the great twink didnt get sow". Why shouldnt the druid can go afk a sec when he is oom/lom and another healer just arrived? I dont get why anyone bitches on volga now. There is NO WAY to stop healing or left the group because of not getting sowed immediatly lol. For me the screenshots just shows one thing: Never group with best.

[Tudana]

hahah i laughed so hard.

Best your the only person i will NEVER give a sow. Welcome on my shitlist.

Sorry but WTF? I dont sow my clerics or anyone who doesnt need it if we dont move and im lom, thats just a mana waste. And there is no fucking reason to ragequit the group because "the great twink didnt get sow". Why shouldnt the druid can go afk a sec when he is oom/lom and another healer just arrived? I dont get why anyone bitches on volga now. There is NO WAY to stop healing or left the group because of not getting sowed immediatly lol. For me the screenshots just shows one thing: Never group with best.

/Agreed

Griefing the OP druid over this thread is stupid - clearly he has a point - Best the cleric is a dip.

the end

[yt2005]

I mean, it's possible that we're missing some previous conversation, but based on the OP image it's fairly clear that the cleric was indeed being a "doosh".

...although, my theory is that Best needed an excuse to abruptly break from the group and found one. Doesn't justify his actions any, though.

[Tudana]

I mean, it's possible that we're missing some previous conversation, but based on the OP image it's fairly clear that the cleric was indeed being a "doosh".

...although, my theory is that Best needed an excuse to abruptly break from the group and found one. Doesn't justify his actions any, though.

It sounded to me that the dip cleric just joined the group...

"So this jack ass Best ( 14 human cleric with all the toys) joins our group - I spend my last mana refreshing the SoW on the puller and announce I'm going afk for a piss since we have a new healer."

[cepheusei]

I hate both of you. I hope that helps.

[Omnimorph]

Omnimorph is amused by this... as well as disappointed... I came to this thread expecting people to be listing what the "best" things to twink your cleric with are... oh well :/
Thread hijack!
My cleric so far has GEBS, plat BS neck, +6wis rings, 7wis 7str veil, 30hp 50mana offhand... what other goodies to i need? Don't really wanna buy a rubi bp for him.

[TheBest]

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4184/pwnedv.jpg

I don't group with garbage like you. Keep rocking your chitin shell shield though bro and refusing to sow your encumbered cleric.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Oooh this thread just got interesting!!

[Volga]

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4184/pwnedv.jpg

I don't group with garbage like you. Keep rocking your chitin shell shield though bro and refusing to sow your encumbered cleric.

Thats a pretty bad fabrication dude. I'm sure the other 4 people in the group would be happy to vouch that I had their back when resources permitted.

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc) is Best when he doesn't get his SoW.

G'luck achieving your goals, I hope I don't have the misfortune of meeting you in game again.

[TheBest]

Best (lol) part is when you were chatting up a storm before you went afk and you were standing there aimlessly, not casting or medding.

Then you refresh all of pullers buffs so you can get maximum afk exp and keep ignoring my requests for SoW.

You're quite possibly the worst player I've ever encountered, skill/personality/intelligence wise. No offense ...

But I do find this thread amusing :)

[Omnimorph]

Lol, this is pretty mild stuff.

Either lol @ tylan for not sowing this guy for whatever reason

or lol @ best for fabricating screenshot thingy.

The detective inside of me says the image best posted was probably fake, due to not being an actualy screenshot, course he might have just edited the text lines out... but that seems extra work.

I've got nothing better to do. Let's get to the bottom of this!

[YendorLootmonkey]

The detective inside of me says the image best posted was probably fake, due to not being an actualy screenshot, course he might have just edited the text lines out... but that seems extra work.

I've got nothing better to do. Let's get to the bottom of this!

Well, if you look at the OP's wall of text, there's clearly been some editing around the first auction chat line, and also around the last OOC chat line... so I wouldn't necessarily trust that either. For all we know, he editted out his /tells to Best and didn't count on Best having screenshotted those to come here and use against him. Hard to say, really.

[Zephys]

He doesn't. While it was inconsiderate not to SoW him when he asked for it before going AFK, it wasn't reason enough to quit out of a group unless he's been repeatedly ignored.

Also, why does a cleric need SoW for? Was your group constantly moving?

Also: that's*, douche*

This is the ONE time you have corrected someone's spelling in a genuinely appreciable way.

[Volga]

@ Best

I honestly don't know how you could judge me "worst player I've ever encountered, skill/personality/intelligence wise" considering you were in group for all of 3 minutes for which I was afk most of..

Nothing said here will change the fact that your an asshole. My point has been made and your further attempts to discredit that point will only enforce it. In the end the people we group with in the levels to come will make their own opinions based on their own observations.

And you're right the chat of the night was the best part - we had a great time.

[Volga]

Well, if you look at the OP's wall of text, there's clearly been some editing around the first auction chat line, and also around the last OOC chat line... so I wouldn't necessarily trust that either. For all we know, he editted out his /tells to Best and didn't count on Best having screenshotted those to come here and use against him. Hard to say, really.

The only editing was the cropping of the image. I run the game in windowed mode and I'm not sure if the resolution or the UI I'm using is responsible for it.

But that just sounds like an excuse or lame defense so I'm not even going to try to explain it further as I can't.

[Nedala]

If your screens arent faked best then i have to apologize for my previous post.

However i dont get why you didnt have this conversation in group chat so every grp member could see what exactly happened, because from what ive seen in volgas screenshot it looked like you way overreacted.

[Zephys]

http://i39.tinypic.com/23m7tjd.jpg

[taamas]

/offtopic on

Well, if you look at the OP's wall of text, there's clearly been some editing around the first auction chat line, and also around the last OOC chat line... so I wouldn't necessarily trust that either. For all we know, he editted out his /tells to Best and didn't count on Best having screenshotted those to come here and use against him. Hard to say, really.

My chat box does that too though. It smooshes the last couple lines for whatever reason and makes it hard to distinguish some letters until it scrolls up to the middle where I can see it better. For example, lowercase "i" looks a helluva alot like a lowercase "l" until it scrolls up a couple lines. I think it might have to do with the size of my chat box, like the box is a line or two of pixels too small for the amount of chat lines it's trying to cram in there. I'm guessing the OP's is the same way, since the screenshot of his chat box looks awfully similar to mine.

/offtopic off

[km2783]

The only editing was the cropping of the image. I run the game in windowed mode and I'm not sure if the resolution or the UI I'm using is responsible for it.

But that just sounds like an excuse or lame defense so I'm not even going to try to explain it further as I can't.

My UI does this, too. I sometimes see 8s as 0 until the text scrolls. Happens on a friend's, too.

If everyone would examine the background of the chat window, there is no evidence of tom foolery. It's the font/text that's clipped.

[Malrubius]

Man, this thread did get interesting. I especially like Best's speech pattern referring to himself in the second-person...

when he asks for a sow he gets it

Malrubius likes this thread. It shows him that EQ drama is alive and well. He thinks that after this thread, Best will find it much harder to get sows.

Hey this is pretty cool. He thanks you.

[Zephys]

Maiq, knows many things. Maybe he'll tell you.

[YendorLootmonkey]

While he's here, I would kinda like to ask Best what exactly he was going for with the whole "when he asks for a sow he gets it" line.

[Stepy]

I think they Druid should have kept the tells in the cut and paste, IMO it shows some frustrations between the druid and cleric. I used that excuse as have many others to deal with nagging for unecessary spell request from groupmates. This isn't 10 expansions into EQ where everyone has unlimited mana to give every possible buff or utility spell. I sound more like the cleric may have had somewhere he wanted to be and wanted a SoW otherwise why did he remain there for 3 hours.

[Yinaltin]

i smell a drama queen . but who is it ? Best (raging cleric) or Tylaric (non sowing dr00d) . we should make a poll to vote whos story is true :D

[Nedala]

i smell a plot, they are the same person!

[Volga]

I think they Druid should have kept the tells in the cut and paste, IMO it shows some frustrations between the druid and cleric. I used that excuse as have many others to deal with nagging for unecessary spell request from groupmates. This isn't 10 expansions into EQ where everyone has unlimited mana to give every possible buff or utility spell. I sound more like the cleric may have had somewhere he wanted to be and wanted a SoW otherwise why did he remain there for 3 hours.

Stepy; there were no tells between the cleric and I save for me responding to his LFG and inviting him to our group. The screen shot is not at all edited by me.

The cleric wasn't with the group for 3 hours, he joined, and was there for 3 minutes and left.

[Stepy]

Ahhh i see, so group was there 3 hours but cleric was new to the group it makes more sense now, next time just give the SoW. =P

[Omnimorph]

I like how this has become a whodunnit situation.

The way Omnimorph sees the situation, if best left within 3 minutes due to raging over lack of sow, then even if druid (sow hoarder) wasn't afk, that's still leaving very quickly.

I am liking how i'm seeing a general unity in the druids of the community all banding together saying they won't sow the cleric... why aren't the clerics of the community not saying they won't rez the druid? where's the unity guys?

[Tudana]

i smell a drama queen . but who is it ? Best (raging cleric) or Tylaric (non sowing dr00d) . we should make a poll to vote whos story is true :D

I'm leaning toward Tylaric myself - I find his editing and copy/paste skills alot more advanced then Bests.
I also have to give him the /nod on the fact its hard to cast on a "3 min in group cleric" sow when your oom/lom - try it, it is tough, also when your holding your pee pee! omg...let the druids pee dammit!

Best is a /quitrager by all accounts in this thread; 1. The obvious things he said in group chat shown on Tylarics exquisite photo shopped copy/paste and 2. How bad of editor of the photo shop he is. 3. He is a faker, that’s how bad this stinks of fraud from him. 4. He has 1 post on the forums, hands down a newb.

so from my observations, I give the rounds to Tylaric up to this point.

[Zephys]

Lol, or not.

DEMANDING a SoW while in group is absolutely retarded. Asking politely because you're encumbered, and waiting patiently for one when he can spare the mana? That much is acceptable.

[Jeebus]

Lol, or not.

DEMANDING a SoW while in group is absolutely retarded. Asking politely because you're encumbered, and waiting patiently for one when he can spare the mana? That much is acceptable.

Agreed. While I don't agree with whining on the boards (sorry Volga). Best is a tool. Sit down, shut up and wait for him to get back from afk and then politely ask for him to give you a SoW.

Also what kind of shitty twink doesn't just have jboots. I know my twink cleric does. ^_^

[YendorLootmonkey]

Also what kind of shitty twink doesn't just have jboots.

This is the most important point in the entire thread.

[Lazortag]

Both Best and the original poster are jackasses. It is indeed true that this druid has pretended not to have sow - I grouped with him recently. He said he "deleted it" when our PULLER reasonably wanted sow. If you're a druid you don't lie to people who ask for sow, you can just say they don't need it (which is acceptable) or that you're out of mana. Be straight with people and things like this won't happen.

[Malrubius]

Malrubius is saddened that this thread seems to be winding down.

[km2783]

a little OT...

He said he "deleted it"

I can't delete spells :( I remapped the map off the delete key and still can't right-click and delete a spell like the UI says. Or is deleting spells not classic? :D Never tried to back in the day.

[Gideon]

What kind of faggot names themselves "Best" anyway? Is your dick like 2 inches long? Jesus Christ what a tool.

[TheBest]

It is indeed true that this druid has pretended not to have sow - I grouped with him recently. He said he "deleted it" when our PULLER reasonably wanted sow. If you're a druid you don't lie to people who ask for sow, you can just say they don't need it (which is acceptable) or that you're out of mana. Be straight with people and things like this won't happen.

This

If this were a pvp server, I'd have already fragged or trained him. But since this is legit pve server, I just leave and save myself the hassle.

Is your dick like 2 inches long?

Are you licking your lips right now ?

[Volga]

Both Best and the original poster are jackasses. It is indeed true that this druid has pretended not to have sow - I grouped with him recently. He said he "deleted it" when our PULLER reasonably wanted sow. If you're a druid you don't lie to people who ask for sow, you can just say they don't need it (which is acceptable) or that you're out of mana. Be straight with people and things like this won't happen.

You are either confusing me with someone else our out right lying. Since hitting level 14 SoW has been in slot 8 and hasn't moved. I freely SoW people just casually running by and would certainly never refuse to buff a group member when resources permit prioritizing the puller above all others.

As a matter of fact, the first time I met Best outside of Najena when he asked me to group with him I declined as I had to work and before leaving tossed him an unsolicited SoW.

[Kanor]

This asshole Tylaric ran around aggroing whole Oasis zone and gated by my group last night, killing us all.

Real classy Volga or whatever you go by.

[Volga]

Agreed. While I don't agree with whining on the boards (sorry Volga). Best is a tool. Sit down, shut up and wait for him to get back from afk and then politely ask for him to give you a SoW.


I concede this point and after cooling off realize my purpose would have been better served by letting him dig his own grave as opposed bringing attention to the situation publicly which has only served to have people question my character.

Being new here I don't have the well established friendships yet and being such a small community I can't afford to burn any bridges or cast a negative perception on me or my guild.

Until I'm better known by many I'll keep my rants and flames to myself.

[Kanor]

Looks like he's attempting to grief this cleric now in this thread.

Lol you are a real piece of work buddy. Lemme guess, you're gonna claim you were oblivious to the train last night when you laughed in tells continuously after destroying my group (I was bound in felwithe btw heh).

Was a wonderful CR man. I hope YOU'RE having fun though.

[Volga]

Looks like he's attempting to grief this cleric now in this thread.

Lol you are a real piece of work buddy. Lemme guess, you're gonna claim you were oblivious to the train last night when you laughed in tells continuously after destroying my group (I was bound in felwithe btw heh).

Was a wonderful CR man. I hope YOU'RE having fun though.

Screen shots and logs or STFU

[Tudana]

Looks like he's attempting to grief this cleric now in this thread.

Lol you are a real piece of work buddy. Lemme guess, you're gonna claim you were oblivious to the train last night when you laughed in tells continuously after destroying my group (I was bound in felwithe btw heh).

Was a wonderful CR man. I hope YOU'RE having fun though.

heh your a dummy for not binding before hutning in oasis.

screenies or it didnt happen

[Yinikren]

are you guys fucking blind? the OP said he was oom before the douche asked for sow. He went AFK to med.

christ.

[Kickn]

hi all, just to clear up a few things... i was the monk pulling that night and the screen shot of the chat in the OP is not edited and it all took place in about 2 or 3 minutes.

Now im not trying to start any shit or make any enemies but just ask yourself if a guy joined your group and did this would you be like wtf? I dont know what Best was thinking or why he had this kind of attitude but when you act like this people tend to think your ass. All you had to do was wait a few min for him to get back from afk and he would have sowed you im almost 100% sure. He hadnt been afk for like a long time cause we had been killing nonstop for hours.

[mitic]

capitalist rezing clerics vs capitalist porting druids

who will win?

[Yinaltin]

necro !

[mitic]

necro !

piles of bones dont count =P

[Yinaltin]

fo sho !

[Bentheb]

this thread proves its Canada's fault

[Lazortag]

You are either confusing me with someone else our out right lying. Since hitting level 14 SoW has been in slot 8 and hasn't moved. I freely SoW people just casually running by and would certainly never refuse to buff a group member when resources permit prioritizing the puller above all others.

As a matter of fact, the first time I met Best outside of Najena when he asked me to group with him I declined as I had to work and before leaving tossed him an unsolicited SoW.

If you are in fact Tylaric, then you're a liar. I recognized immediately when Best posted the screenshot of the tells you sent (saying you're not a druid or don't have it memorized or whatever) that you were the same person who claimed to have "deleted" it because you didn't like people asking you for SoW. Our Tank/PULLER wanted SoW, I think we were in Najena at the time. I think you eventually gave it to him but you still shouldn't have lied in the first place.

Now, obviously Best is pretty pathetic too - when you don't get what you want you shouldn't make things harder for the other group members. If the group was just you and Tylaric, then I would understand because he's an evasive ass, but since others were in the group it was majorly dickish to leave because of something only one group member was responsible for, when you could have resolved the issue like a mature human being by waiting a minute. Obviously players like Tylaric can be really frustrating, but you've yet to provide a reason as to how this was the best approach to the problem. Also, I agree, you probably have a two inch wiener.

[Lazortag]

To be clear, I'm not saying that Tylaric ever actually did delete/unmemorize SoW (who would if they were a druid?), just that he claims to so that he can avoid SoWing people, when the alternative is that he could just say "no I don't want to".

[Volga]

Lazortag - I am indeed Tylaric the druid and you are so full of shit.

I've been in Najena once - with a primarily guild group where I can promise you SoW was never an issue.

I have a suspicion that you are Best with a diff login just trying to fan the flame in your favor.

Complete screenshots and logs or it didn't happen dude. Post your toon names or do something to validate your claims.

[Volga]

@ Lazortag - after looking at your post history I don't see anything to support my suspicion that you're doubling as Best..

Which leads me to wonder why your trollin like you are.. Hell - I've even SoW shitty bards that can't twist and pull at the same time ! (that wasn't you was it?)

[YendorLootmonkey]

Our Tank/PULLER wanted SoW, I think we were in Najena at the time. I think you eventually gave it to him but you still shouldn't have lied in the first place.

Nice made-up story, bro. Najena is an indoors dungeon, so no one is going to be casting/receiving SoW in there.

[ShadowWulf]

Nice made-up story, bro. Najena is an indoors dungeon, so no one is going to be casting/receiving SoW in there.

Unless ya cast it outside the door...

Like i do....

Just saying....

[Yinaltin]

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4092/gladiators1.jpg

[Tallenn]

Come on mods, tell us which accounts are the same IPs!

[BlackBellamy]

Everyone is on the same IP.

[guineapig]

Happy Forum Friday everybody!!!!!

wootwoot!

[guineapig]

http://www.netwargames.com/best.jpg

Tylaric


I wish that was the extent of /ooc chatter over the course of 2-3 minutes when I'm online. During the hours I play it's a non-stop crawl of text.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Unless ya cast it outside the door...

Like i do....

Just saying....

Aw, quit throwing logic into this. :P

[eqdruid76]

Both Best and the original poster are jackasses. It is indeed true that this druid has pretended not to have sow - I grouped with him recently. He said he "deleted it" when our PULLER reasonably wanted sow. If you're a druid you don't lie to people who ask for sow, you can just say they don't need it (which is acceptable) or that you're out of mana. Be straight with people and things like this won't happen.


Sounds like you've never played a druid, and have never been invited to a a group for the sole purpose of sowing everyone and the group immediately disbands....time and time again.....

There has always been a degree of "druid envy" in Everquest. Everyone wants to benefit from druid skills (sow, chloro, DS, teleports, binds, etc), but no one wants to group with them. That can mentally and emotionally jade a druid who enjoys playing the game and the class, but can't stand the constant "sow pls" tells. I myself got to the point on live where I wouldn't sow people unless they literally typed out "May I please have a Spirit of Wolf buff?". My friends and guildies got it and understood, and were perfectly cool with it, but random douches in PUGs despised me, and the feeling was mutual. :P

Bottom line is that a "twinked" cleric should have had his own means of runspeed (cough JBoots) and you can't sow an encumbered cleric when you're oom and afk. Best seems like a sociopath, at any rate. I definitely won't be grouping with him.

[Elysium]

Haha the funny thing is, is Tylaric could've been the biggest dick in the world, but the fact that Best said "when he asks for sow he gets one" referring to himself makes him a colossal faggot.

[anthony210]

Sounds like you've never played a druid, and have never been invited to a a group for the sole purpose of sowing everyone and the group immediately disbands....time and time again.....

There has always been a degree of "druid envy" in Everquest. Everyone wants to benefit from druid skills (sow, chloro, DS, teleports, binds, etc), but no one wants to group with them. That can mentally and emotionally jade a druid who enjoys playing the game and the class, but can't stand the constant "sow pls" tells. I myself got to the point on live where I wouldn't sow people unless they literally typed out "May I please have a Spirit of Wolf buff?". My friends and guildies got it and understood, and were perfectly cool with it, but random douches in PUGs despised me, and the feeling was mutual. :P

Bottom line is that a "twinked" cleric should have had his own means of runspeed (cough JBoots) and you can't sow an encumbered cleric when you're oom and afk. Best seems like a sociopath, at any rate. I definitely won't be grouping with him.

Going to be honest here,

If you choose to play a druid casting SoW/Chloro/DS and porting people to the group are part of your job in a group. Just because other groups may have taken advantage of you does not change the fact that these are your buffs and its your job in a group to cast them on people that need/want them. And not everyone has JBoots nor is it a requirement that everyone get Jboots to get a group, especially not in lowbie groups. If someone wants a damn sow in your group, cast the sow if you have mana or med enough to cast it.

Best was an asshole here but the OP was not exactly a victim eather. Best asked for the SoW before the OP went AFK. Even if he was OOM it would take all of 1 minute to med enough to SoW the guy, especially if he was about to go AFK for 15 minutes. ALL buffers should make sure everyone has their buffs before going afk for an extended period of time while being grouped.

[Volga]

@anthony210.

I agree with you and if were going for an extended time I would have done exactly that.. This wasn't an extended time however - it was upstairs for a leak while I medded up.

The 15 minutes thing is part of the cleric's fabricated tells, none of the tells he posted too place they are all photoshopped.

At any rate - this has been a learning experience for me. My intention through this whole thing was to warn folks about this asshat and in the process I've had my own character brought into question by trolls and liars.

Those who know me, who've actually grouped with me know whats what and I hope others will not judge me by this thread and take the opportunity to get to know me in game - which I suppose is the same that should be expected for Best and to that end - I regret ever posting this in the heat of the moment. I don't need to tell people who an asshole is - that will be made clear enough in the long run; this I've learned through this process.

Until then - free sow for all who ask (politely) as long as it doesn't take me away from my group and I have the mana to spare.

[Volga]

@guineapig

my ooc goes to another window - I run with 4 chat windows otherwise I'd never see anything =)

[Yoite]

i wouldnt worry about it, most people dont come back to the forums after they get the game running. Most people who visit these forums do so during the day while they are at their boring desk job.

[Lazortag]

Sounds like you've never played a druid, and have never been invited to a a group for the sole purpose of sowing everyone and the group immediately disbands....time and time again.....

There has always been a degree of "druid envy" in Everquest. Everyone wants to benefit from druid skills (sow, chloro, DS, teleports, binds, etc), but no one wants to group with them. That can mentally and emotionally jade a druid who enjoys playing the game and the class, but can't stand the constant "sow pls" tells. I myself got to the point on live where I wouldn't sow people unless they literally typed out "May I please have a Spirit of Wolf buff?". My friends and guildies got it and understood, and were perfectly cool with it, but random douches in PUGs despised me, and the feeling was mutual. :P

Bottom line is that a "twinked" cleric should have had his own means of runspeed (cough JBoots) and you can't sow an encumbered cleric when you're oom and afk. Best seems like a sociopath, at any rate. I definitely won't be grouping with him.

I think it's perfectly okay for a Druid to not cast SoW on people in their group unless it's needed. They have no obligation to buff people randomly. My point is that if you don't want to cast SoW on someone who doesn't need it, you should be straight with them, give them a good reason, and don't lie to them like Tylaric does. If people don't accept "you don't need it" as an acceptable reason, that's their problem.

I guess a point can be made that druids will just feel like douches for not giving group members SoW because they don't need it, but they really shouldn't, because as I said there's no obligation to hand out buffs to people just because they're grouped with you.

[Lazortag]

@ Lazortag - after looking at your post history I don't see anything to support my suspicion that you're doubling as Best..

Which leads me to wonder why your trollin like you are.. Hell - I've even SoW shitty bards that can't twist and pull at the same time ! (that wasn't you was it?)

To be clear, when I was in that group in Najena I didn't do any pulling (at least not intentionally!) because that place is fucking scary shit and I didn't know it very well.

But to respond to your tangential little point anyway - I'm not sure that you have to be giving yourself carpal tunnel syndrome while pulling if you're a bard, as pulling usually involves needing to focus on three specific songs (lulling, mezzing and speed) so I'm not going to be casting a piddly little strength or regen buff unless I know I've single-pulled and I can twist it with selo's accelerando so as to not get hit. I mean, sometimes having to twist to your full capacity compromises your ability to concentrate on more important things, so be sympathetic to bards who aren't 4-twisting while mezzing and lulling and assisting and doing everything.
(This is not an excuse for bards who are lazy and don't try to twist as much as they can though).

[Nikon]

i wouldnt worry about it, most people dont come back to the forums after they get the game running. Most people who visit these forums do so during the day while they are at their boring desk job.

+1

[TheBest]

Best is the Best imo

[eqdruid76]

Going to be honest here,

If you choose to play a druid casting SoW/Chloro/DS and porting people to the group are part of your job in a group. Just because other groups may have taken advantage of you does not change the fact that these are your buffs and its your job in a group to cast them on people that need/want them. And not everyone has JBoots nor is it a requirement that everyone get Jboots to get a group, especially not in lowbie groups. If someone wants a damn sow in your group, cast the sow if you have mana or med enough to cast it.

Best was an asshole here but the OP was not exactly a victim eather. Best asked for the SoW before the OP went AFK. Even if he was OOM it would take all of 1 minute to med enough to SoW the guy, especially if he was about to go AFK for 15 minutes. ALL buffers should make sure everyone has their buffs before going afk for an extended period of time while being grouped.

1). It's called "when mana permits", or "WMP".

2). When nature calls, druids answer.....

3). The only "job" anyone has in this game is to enjoy themselves.

[yt2005]

@guineapig

my ooc goes to another window - I run with 4 chat windows otherwise I'd never see anything =)
Huh? Then what's the deal with the screenshot? I'm confused now.

[eqdruid76]

Huh? Then what's the deal with the screenshot? I'm confused now.

/Michael Jackson popcorn GIF....

[Volga]

Huh? Then what's the deal with the screenshot? I'm confused now.

well look at that - I never even read the ooc =) - on my Volga UI it all goes to it's own window.. multiple personalities compuzzling me

[JayDee]

I didn't think it was humanly possible to be this dumb.

[anthony210]

1). It's called "when mana permits", or "WMP".

2). When nature calls, druids answer.....

3). The only "job" anyone has in this game is to enjoy themselves.

Your right its not a job. I should have said role. Part of your role as a druid in a group is to cast SoW/Chloro/DS and Skin if needed. If your not doing that because you dont feel like it then your gonna have problems and I wish you good luck.

It would be like inviting a Monk and then I say "sorry guys, dont feel like pulling right now".

[eqdruid76]

AND SONOFABITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eqdruid76]

Your right its not a job. I should have said role. Part of your role as a druid in a group is to cast SoW/Chloro/DS and Skin if needed. If your not doing that because you dont feel like it then your gonna have problems and I wish you good luck.

It would be like inviting a Monk and then I say "sorry guys, dont feel like pulling right now".

Anyone that's going to give a druid crap for not casting sow on him when the druid is oom and busting for a whizz is not going to stay in ANY group very long.

Buffs are a privelidge, not a right. :P

[anthony210]

Anyone that's going to give a druid crap for not casting sow on him when the druid is oom and busting for a whizz is not going to stay in ANY group very long.

Buffs are a privelidge, not a right. :P

I am not saying Best was right in giving him crap. Also I did not know Best' screenshots were fake so I thought the OP was going AFK for 15 minutes in which case not casting sow on him before going afk that long woulda been a dick move.

And then you posted that you only cast sow on people that spell out the entire spell for you when they want it even to your own group mates...

If I was ever grouped with a druid that refused to SoW me because I did not say "May I please have a Spirit of Wolf" I would instantly use the kick button.

Your right buffs are not a right, but if you join a group. I would venture to say that the group you joined has a right to your buffs if you have mana to cast them.

[eqdruid76]

I am not saying Best was right in giving him crap. Also I did not know Best' screenshots were fake so I thought the OP was going AFK for 15 minutes in which case not casting sow on him before going afk that long woulda been a dick move.

And then you posted that you only cast sow on people that spell out the entire spell for you when they want it even to your own group mates...

If I was ever grouped with a druid that refused to SoW me because I did not say "May I please have a Spirit of Wolf" I would instantly use the kick button.

Your right buffs are not a right, but if you join a group. I would venture to say that the group you joined has a right to your buffs if you have mana to cast them.

Which the OP did not, and he was more than clear about that from the getgo.

And if you're going to be a dick about buffs, then you don't get them. Plain and simple. No one is making you group with me, or anyone else. And no one is making me, or anyone else buff you. So ask for them politely, or buff your goddamned self. And there's nothing at all unreasonable about that mentality. No one is here to hold your dick and play the game for you.

Sorry folks, I don't usually get worked up about rants, especially topics that have absolutely nothing to do with the OP's rant, but that tangent really does hit a nerve.

[twizztid]

I forget what the druids name is, it might be this guy, but I was in Oasis wall group and I forget who asked for it, but regardless the druid said he deleted it and stuff. Then I asked him wth in tells and he said he was just messing with people.

As this was happening someone shouted they needed a sow I think for donation and the druid shouted for the guy to come over, at the same time I told the guy coming over that the druid didn't have sow and he deleted it. The guy thought it was strange but came anyway, and got sowed.

/shrug

[Bodeanicus]

Maybe next time you should buff people when they ask repeatedly ?

Maybe Best should've gotten the fuck over it and not acted like an entitled, spoiled little bitch? Why did he need SoW anyway? He pulling?

[YendorLootmonkey]

Maybe Best should've gotten the fuck over it and not acted like an entitled, spoiled little bitch? Why did he need SoW anyway? He pulling?

He was encumbered. Read the thread.

[Bodeanicus]

He was encumbered. Read the thread.

That's his problem. No one is "required" to do anything about that.

[Tudana]

He was encumbered. Read the thread.

so now Best is a Loot whore too...

this is getting good....

[YendorLootmonkey]

That's his problem. No one is "required" to do anything about that.


SoW would have helped him run faster, thus burning more calories, thus being less fat.

[Adso]

Most people who visit these forums do so during the day while they are at their boring desk job.

Bingo! Yoite has me pegged.

Don't know the OP, but I have received unasked for sow's from him.

Just sayin'.

[eqdruid76]

Hint: Absolute jerkoffs CAN be nice, from time to time. And vice versa.

The majority of EQers are passive-aggressive, after all...

[Zephys]

I'm active-aggressive.

[Reiker]

Terror Forged Mask w/o Rubi BP = not a twink.

[Reiker]

And if he was "TheBest" he'd have jboots too!

[jelatin]

Sometimes I'm pretty sure people don't even read the post, they just come in and put "omg OP is a whiny douche" and submit it then move on to the next thread.

Yes, a lot of R&F posters about people are stupid, but this guy is pretty clearly pointing out someone who acted like a complete tool, unprovoked.

It's a shame that the Search function on these forums doesn't cover R&F, because half the posters with a "LoL OP u MAd bR3W??" response have started almost identical threads themselves at some point or another.

[eqdruid76]

Sometimes I'm pretty sure people don't even read the post, they just come in and put "omg OP is a whiny douche" and submit it then move on to the next thread.

Yes, a lot of R&F posters about people are stupid, but this guy is pretty clearly pointing out someone who acted like a complete tool, unprovoked.

It's a shame that the Search function on these forums doesn't cover R&F, because half the posters with a "LoL OP u MAd bR3W??" response have started almost identical threads themselves at some point or another.

Not entirely unprovoked, br3w. These two have a history we don't know about. God only knows who started it. But they were both acting like D-Nozzles, and we already knew about Daverik. The only thing the OP achieved by posting here was to make his lack of proficiency in english public record, and to make himself look as retarded as Daverik.

[Volga]

Not entirely unprovoked, br3w. These two have a history we don't know about. God only knows who started it. But they were both acting like D-Nozzles, and we already knew about Daverik. The only thing the OP achieved by posting here was to make his lack of proficiency in english public record, and to make himself look as retarded as Daverik.

WTF are you talking about; what history? He shouted LFG, I sent him a tell inviting him over, and telling him where we were.. End of history.

It amazes me that people read between the lines and conceive all kinds of story while ignoring the facts that have been presented.

Up until my run in with the cleric I had only met fantastic people and when this happened I was in shock - figuring the server was made up of primarily good folks I thought I'd share my experience to warn those other good folks. However since this post I've learned that the server has all kinds of assholes and my desire to spend time here has been impacted.

[eqdruid76]

WTF are you talking about; what history? He shouted LFG, I sent him a tell inviting him over, and telling him where we were.. End of history.

It amazes me that people read between the lines and conceive all kinds of story while ignoring the facts that have been presented.

Up until my run in with the cleric I had only met fantastic people and when this happened I was in shock - figuring the server was made up of primarily good folks I thought I'd share my experience to warn those other good folks. However since this post I've learned that the server has all kinds of assholes and my desire to spend time here has been impacted.

/shrug no one made you post here. And no one is making you continute posting. You're just making it worse.

The problem is that your screenies make you seem as big a jerk as Daverik. Which you probably are. But the bottom line is that everyone that plays P99 is a jerk. Everyone that plays EQEMU is a jerk. Everyone that plays MMORPGS is a jerk. That's why we're here. Being absolute douchebags to total strangers for no reason at all....that is our comfort zone. And you're going to need to grow a few layers of skin in order to play here. Because I can guarantee what you experienced is going to happen again and again.

You're surrounded by people with varying degrees of mental illness. Get used to it, or go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure. In the nude.

[Ripcord]

Druid did the right thing by flaming the guy. Anyone stirring up shit about the OP is trolling or totally stupid and wrong. And why the fuck would anyone care if the clr is encoumbered? Gonna run around like a nub if u get agro? Sit the fuck down, med, and heal when needed. This thread is why RnF was invented.

[Sadface]

Cripple fiiiiiight

[Lazortag]

... Anyone stirring up shit about the OP is trolling or totally stupid and wrong. ...

The OP has pretended to have "deleted" SoW so that he can avoid giving people the buff when he could easily just be straight with them and say the person asking for it didn't need it. A few others were in that group with me, I wish they'd speak up!

[Volga]

The OP has pretended to have "deleted" SoW so that he can avoid giving people the buff when he could easily just be straight with them and say the person asking for it didn't need it. A few others were in that group with me, I wish they'd speak up!

As you are persistent in this - I will again state you sir, are either mistaken or full of shit. We never grouped together in Najena and I don't know you.

Unless you can bring evidence to your claim stfu.

[Lazortag]

As you are persistent in this - I will again state you sir, are either mistaken or full of shit. We never grouped together in Najena and I don't know you.

Unless you can bring evidence to your claim stfu.

I find it ridiculously unlikely that, despite Best posting screenshots of tells showing you saying the things that a druid I recently grouped with also said, that you are not the same druid I grouped with.

[Kraftwerk]

/shrug no one made you post here. And no one is making you continute posting. You're just making it worse.

The problem is that your screenies make you seem as big a jerk as Daverik. Which you probably are. But the bottom line is that everyone that plays P99 is a jerk. Everyone that plays EQEMU is a jerk. Everyone that plays MMORPGS is a jerk. That's why we're here. Being absolute douchebags to total strangers for no reason at all....that is our comfort zone. And you're going to need to grow a few layers of skin in order to play here. Because I can guarantee what you experienced is going to happen again and again.

You're surrounded by people with varying degrees of mental illness. Get used to it, or go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure. In the nude.

The humor here is that you posted about the Magician Daverik in a seperate thread about the Cleric Best. Honest mistake for you, slightly humorous mid-workday distraction for me. =)

[eqdruid76]

Zoinks!!! I got my completely retarded threads confused.

Shamefully, not the first time that's happened. :) /thumbs up

[Ripcord]

I'm guessing wrong guy. Saying "I deleted it" is kind of a dick thing or bad joke, but that's a pretty wild accusation that just doesn't fit from what I see of OP. Proof needed or disregarded, sorry. Also I don't know either guy I'm judging purely on this theads content.

[Volga]

I find it ridiculously unlikely that, despite Best posting screenshots of tells showing you saying the things that a druid I recently grouped with also said, that you are not the same druid I grouped with.

Those weren't screen shots - those were photoshop'd, those tells never took place.

If you have your logs on go back and look to see if you can find the name of the druid you're thinking of - I assure you it's not me.

[Goobles]

I've seen a cleric that probably is equally as twinked as him, +1.

But I don't play any more, so nyeh.

[Gukag]

/shrug no one made you post here. And no one is making you continute posting. You're just making it worse.

The problem is that your screenies make you seem as big a jerk as Daverik. Which you probably are. But the bottom line is that everyone that plays P99 is a jerk. Everyone that plays EQEMU is a jerk. Everyone that plays MMORPGS is a jerk. That's why we're here. Being absolute douchebags to total strangers for no reason at all....that is our comfort zone. And you're going to need to grow a few layers of skin in order to play here. Because I can guarantee what you experienced is going to happen again and again.

You're surrounded by people with varying degrees of mental illness. Get used to it, or go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure. In the nude.

That's pretty fucking sad, if griefing and being a douchebag to random strangers is the reason you play this game. I know it's not why I play it. In fact, considering douchebag/normal ratio (my own personal experience at least), it's a very vocal, bitter, socially retarded minority. A large part of appear to have made their way to RnF, which isn't surprising cause that's exactly where they belong.

[eqdruid76]

And here you are right along with us. What color is that there kettle, pot?

Vocal? True. Bitter? True. Socially retarded? Very true. Minority? False. Patently false.

[Gukag]

"A large part", meaning the RnF forum can also be composed of people who aren't just out to troll or flame, as evidenced by the posts in this thread. Minority= extremely true. I have yet to run into more than a couple of people who went out of their way to be assholes.
Everyone else, from pick up groups, players selling items, guild members, rezers, have been great. People actually tend to enjoy helping out those that are lower level, given them items and plat, sometimes even creating a quest around it. There are any number of clerics who travel around the world rezing others for free.
I'm not saying we're not all nerds to a certain degree, cause we obviously are. A nerd isn't always a jerk, though a jerk can be a nerd. Which is what this minority is, a bunch of nerdy jerks. You can try to convince me otherwise, but my own subjective, personal experience has been otherwise. Maybe you've been running into all the assholes.

[Malrubius]

Yeah, most (all?) of the people I've interacted with in-game have been friendly and mature. I know there are some jerks out there, but they're in the extreme minority.

[pickled_heretic]

I even make an attempt to present myself as a jerk, but if someone sends me a /tell asking for help to drag a corpse from a zone or two away or asks me to do anything I can actually do, I almost always help them. In the reverse, everyone I have encountered with a solitary exception has been totally helpful and cooperative.

I'll give you an example. A few nights ago I left an oasis group to go to unrest or something because I was sick of oasis. on the way north, I got rooted by a ghoul that was yellow to me. Now as an unbuffed, untwinked tank I have basically no chance against a yellow con mob. I sent one of the members of my old group a /tell asking them to come north and help me. when I was at about 20% the wizard and cleric came from their group, nuked the ghoul down and healed me up. I told them I owed them both a big favor and I intend to honor my promise when they ask. Kindness is infectious; it's hard to be a dick when you get confronted with kindness everywhere you go.

[eqdruid76]

"A large part", meaning the RnF forum can also be composed of people who aren't just out to troll or flame, as evidenced by the posts in this thread. Minority= extremely true. I have yet to run into more than a couple of people who went out of their way to be assholes.
Everyone else, from pick up groups, players selling items, guild members, rezers, have been great. People actually tend to enjoy helping out those that are lower level, given them items and plat, sometimes even creating a quest around it. There are any number of clerics who travel around the world rezing others for free.
I'm not saying we're not all nerds to a certain degree, cause we obviously are. A nerd isn't always a jerk, though a jerk can be a nerd. Which is what this minority is, a bunch of nerdy jerks. You can try to convince me otherwise, but my own subjective, personal experience has been otherwise. Maybe you've been running into all the assholes.

Not going to try to convince you of anything, because I happen to know that the people who claim everything is all peachy and roses are the biggest dickheads of all....and that's the way it's always been, in-game AND IRL.

[Tallenn]

/shrug no one made you post here. And no one is making you continute posting. You're just making it worse.

The problem is that your screenies make you seem as big a jerk as Daverik. Which you probably are. But the bottom line is that everyone that plays P99 is a jerk. Everyone that plays EQEMU is a jerk. Everyone that plays MMORPGS is a jerk. That's why we're here. Being absolute douchebags to total strangers for no reason at all....that is our comfort zone. And you're going to need to grow a few layers of skin in order to play here. Because I can guarantee what you experienced is going to happen again and again.

You're surrounded by people with varying degrees of mental illness. Get used to it, or go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure. In the nude.

Is that really the way you feel? How sad for you.

[Tudana]

Not going to try to convince you of anything, because I happen to know that the people who claim everything is all peachy and roses are the biggest dickheads of all....and that's the way it's always been, in-game AND IRL.

hahaha he said dickhead

[kariden]

op is A+

[Gukag]

Not going to try to convince you of anything, because I happen to know that the people who claim everything is all peachy and roses are the biggest dickheads of all....and that's the way it's always been, in-game AND IRL.

For sure man, IRL the despondent, cynical and perpetually angry are well known as being the nicest people around. Cheerfull, positive people on the other hand are always dicks. Oh and i posess the knowledge of everyone's personality, not only currently but throughout the whole of human existence.

/snark


No really though, do you have any examples of this? I would be interested.

[guineapig]

This thread is still going?
Dear lord...

[pickled_heretic]

For sure man, IRL the despondent, cynical and perpetually angry are well known as being the nicest people around. Cheerfull, positive people on the other hand are always dicks. Oh and i posess the knowledge of everyone's personality, not only currently but throughout the whole of human existence.

/snark


No really though, do you have any examples of this? I would be interested.
If you look through this guy's posts he is a pathological assclown. His posts are rife with ad homs, false dichotomies, hasty generalizations and other logical fallacies. Don't expect him to bring any proof because he has none. 90% of this server is full of nice guys, and even the other 9% who act like a dick most of the time will be nice to you if you are really in need. There's only a very tiny minority who are genuinely socially retarded and they will be weeded out sooner or later when they can't get a guild or get kicked out of their guild for lacking basic communication skills.

[eqdruid76]

If you look through this guy's posts he is a pathological assclown. His posts are rife with ad homs, false dichotomies, hasty generalizations and other logical fallacies. Don't expect him to bring any proof because he has none. 90% of this server is full of nice guys, and even the other 9% who act like a dick most of the time will be nice to you if you are really in need. There's only a very tiny minority who are genuinely socially retarded and they will be weeded out sooner or later when they can't get a guild or get kicked out of their guild for lacking basic communication skills.

LOL @ the hypocrisy.

News flash, Sonny Jim. I've grouped with you. I didn't want you in the group, because I read all about your tirade the other night, but I kept my mouth shut because it was a good group. Within 10 minutes, you completely wrecked that group with your micromanagement and your horrible attitude, and we disbanded and reformed the group without you. Like it or not, you have already established yourself as a complete toolbox on this server. So you deal with that. And you should really stop using words in which you don't have the slightest clue of the meaning....like dichotomy. Or contradictions in terms...like logical fallacies. Pathological assclown, however, that's very true, and I'm proud of it. :) Beats being a sociopathic douchebag any day of the week. /point

[pickled_heretic]

Within 10 minutes, you completely wrecked that group with your micromanagement and your horrible attitude, and we disbanded and reformed the group without you.
This has never happened to me. I would ask a normal person to provide proof or STFU, but we all know based on history that eqdruid isn't going to provide any so there's no reason for me to even bother defending myself.

[eqdruid76]

This has never happened to me. I would ask a normal person to provide proof or STFU, but we all know based on history that eqdruid isn't going to provide any so there's no reason for me to even bother defending myself.

I don't have to provide any proof. You're doing a splendid job of that yourself, without any interference from me.

[pickled_heretic]

I don't have to provide any proof. You're doing a splendid job of that yourself, without any interference from me.

Did you know that libel was considered a capital offense in ancient Rome?

[Ripcord]

Can we stop quoting giant walls of text from a post right above yours? we know what's just been said and youre killing the trackball on my phone, assholes. Thanks!

[Yinaltin]

wonder if we reach page 20 ...

[Volga]

This isn't my thread any more - totally hijakced= )

[Sslaesha]

Guys, you gotta make sure the Cleric gets SoW before you afk. I mean, cmon, what does a Cleric do in a group? They constantly run around, pulling mobs, nuking shyte, without SoW, Cleric is useless.

[twizztid]

Guys, you gotta make sure the Cleric gets SoW before you afk. I mean, cmon, what does a Cleric do in a group? They constantly run around, pulling mobs, nuking shyte, without SoW, Cleric is useless.


^^ This. ESPECIALLY when the druid has no mana. GET SOME WE DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE NO MANA! FIGURE IT OUT >:{