Blue99 economy soon to be tanked

[lethdar]

In case you guys didn't notice red99 pop has been plummeting, under 100 played during prime time with the number still heading down. What's going to happen eventually is those characters will be merged into blue.

What does this mean for you?
Think you're cool for having full russet? Here comes dozens of people with it. Dozen+ mistwalkers inc. Know how theres only 3 thex daggers on blue? Get ready for there to be 5000. over 1000 new manastones introduced into the economy. Inactive characters being traded away tanks the account economy. Millions of plat are being farmed right now on a dead server in order to prepare for the merge.

Ready for your market to crash? Cuz it's inc.

[tekniq]

I DONT BELIEVE YOU SIR

[Nips]

No way, they will just delete all of your loots:(

[Barkingturtle]

I don't think you understand what happens when a server shuts down.

Honestly, if Red shut down it would only be good for Blue, after the first few weeks/months of forum terrorism you little scamps would engage in. Good riddance.

[Hitchens]

http://i43.tinypic.com/35b5hys.jpg

[mala]

you think the server staff is dumb enough to upset 90% of their population (blue) to make sure 10% (red) get to keep their chars?

[Kassel]

You think they would move red chars to blue? lol dont be so stupid.

[lethdar]

It's already confirmed

[Psionide]

no the reason for the economy tanking is obama derrr....

[Minotauro]

Proof?

[Slathar]

i wonder what guise accounts go for, i have like 20

and about 35 manastones

[Grozmok]

BURN IT DOWN

[Hitchens]

And I was all set to completely believe unsourced claims from red forum trolls, thank goodness for that tranny pic.

[Barkingturtle]

Looks like Holocaust has seen the writing on the wall and are pretty bummed about the time they've wasted. Rather than trolling P99 you guys should find a more positive outlet for all the free time you're about to have. Maybe learn to ride a bike or how boobs feel or something.

[Barkingturtle]

Those fat fingers are a real turn off.

[Hitchens]

I'm somewhat disappointed. What could have been excellent fear-mongering and forum drama was totally ruined by an overplayed hand.

0/10

[Flunklesnarkin]

pretty sure that guy is about to be banned for spamming porn outside of RnF lol

[lethdar]

I'm somewhat disappointed. What could have been excellent fear-mongering and forum drama was totally ruined by an overplayed hand.

0/10

If only you could read :(

[Hitchens]

If only you could read :(

Sorry, don't know how.

[Grozmok]

Goddamn this thread delivers, just like red p99 population.

[Nagash]

ya i was told chars would be transfered if and when red died

got 2 manastones, a thex dagger, and full lustrous russet

Did they specify you'd be transferred with your gear?

[Ikonoclastia]

Confirming this unsubstantiated rumor is unsubstantiated

[jbs89]

Whatever. I'm on red only to solo and pvp. Not waste time in groups. The Global OOc runs crush bone and unrest. Very newb friendly. If they close red I'll just play D2 maybe d3

[Swish]

This thread:-

http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/funny-gifs-narrow-escape-in-norway.gif

[teekanc]

Nah, no merger.

[gnomishfirework]

For the majority of the server, a flood of legacy items would be beneficial. It only hurts those who possess those items currently, and only if they ever intend to sell.

[FoxxHound]

http://i43.tinypic.com/35b5hys.jpg

Every time I see him. I think "Can't see shit Capt'n"

[webrunner5]

Sounds like rats on a sinking ship.

[Harrison]

Sounds like rats on a sinking ship.

That's insulting to rats.

[godbox]

and ships

[Glasken]

^

[reppa]

All i hear is cheaper loots

[Destan]

All i hear is cheaper loots

Yeah exactly. Supply and demand...and if it happens, we'll be seeing supply far exceed demand and be snagging manastones for 700p just because they're tired of trying to sell it and need the bag space for more reagents.

[Harrison]

It won't happen.

This is Red99 faggots trying to undermine the project.

[godbox]

you call people faggots alot harrison =/

[kazroth]

you call people faggots alot harrison =/

Agreed!

Harrison, clean up your language, and treat others with respect - even when you're telling them they're wrong.

You can thank you me later when people start taking you seriously again.

[Bodeanicus]

you call people faggots alot harrison =/

It's called projection. He can't accept his secret desire for the cock 'n balls.

[Alukit Vassago]

isn't it a bit off how most of this servers items are price way so high? i thought the whole supply = demand would be better since our population on p99 blue isn't even close to what live was back in the day & the prices seem to be close to then but then i wouldn't know to much about it, just thought i throw my view in

[Ikonoclastia]

isn't it a bit off how most of this servers items are price way so high? i thought the whole supply = demand would be better since our population on p99 blue isn't even close to what live was back in the day & the prices seem to be close to then but then i wouldn't know to much about it, just thought i throw my view in
Yeah the economy seems pretty screwed up, I'm having some doubts whether its going to be worthwhile staying around now solely because of this. By the sounds of it to get a high level set of tradable gear at 60 its going to be costing multiple millions in platinum's with some items I'm seeing being auctioned close to a million by themselves.

Comparatively on my server back in 2001 we were paying 2.5k for a FBSS, here its 10k at best, gatorscale legs were 200pp, here they're 800pp.

Problem being plat generation from gameplay hasn't quadrupled but prices seem to have.

[Dreads]

Yeah the economy seems pretty screwed up, I'm having some doubts whether its going to be worthwhile staying around now solely because of this. By the sounds of it to get a high level set of tradable gear at 60 its going to be costing multiple millions in platinum's with some items I'm seeing being auctioned close to a million by themselves.

Comparatively on my server back in 2001 we were paying 2.5k for a FBSS, here its 10k at best, gatorscale legs were 200pp, here they're 800pp.

Problem being plat generation from gameplay hasn't quadrupled but prices seem to have.

The fact that this is an old game when people started they already knew what were big time money makers. People farmed manastones and guises and stuff like that knowing they are valuable. People knew where the good plat camps were. They also did this much faster, on live people didn't even know manastones were useful until they started raiding and getting higher levels. Couple that with now all they do is raid and sell their unneeded raid gear, they have plat just sitting doing nothing. This game has no money sinks so plat just gets moved around and never really goes anywhere. Hence there is a huge amount of plat for a small amount of people. Everything will be priced much higher because people who have been playing since the start can and don't mind. 10k to someone who has 600k is a drop in the hat. The only real million plat items are ridiculous VP gear that is trade-able, maybe a prenerf fungi staff. I mean to be fully welled geared at 60 and not spend a shit ton of plat is possible. I would estimate most classes can be pretty well geared for 50k-100k. Just huge tickets items like RBG's, CoFs, and shit like that are going to cost a pretty penny. But back on live these items werent as readily for sale because they werent farmed and raided at hard so getting them were most likely because you raided.

Atleast thats my 2cents on the matter

[fischsemmel]

Yeah the economy seems pretty screwed up, I'm having some doubts whether its going to be worthwhile staying around now solely because of this. By the sounds of it to get a high level set of tradable gear at 60 its going to be costing multiple millions in platinum's with some items I'm seeing being auctioned close to a million by themselves.

Comparatively on my server back in 2001 we were paying 2.5k for a FBSS, here its 10k at best, gatorscale legs were 200pp, here they're 800pp.

Problem being plat generation from gameplay hasn't quadrupled but prices seem to have.

"Waahhhh, I can't buy full donal's/prenerf fungi/whatever with the money I made while leveling from 30-50 on hill giants and seafuries. I think I'm going to quit!"


But seriously:
1. If you quit because you can't buy no-longer-dropping/raid-dropping gear just by farming seafuries for 10 hours... yeah.
2. WTF items are auctioning for close to a million pp?
3. This isn't live, and this isn't 2001.
4. If an item is more expensive than you think it should be, maybe you should go get the item instead of trying to buy it.
5. There is probably much more than 4x the plat here than there would have been on a similarly sized live server in the middle of Kunark.

[Ikonoclastia]

"Waahhhh, I can't buy full donal's/prenerf fungi/whatever with the money I made while leveling from 30-50 on hill giants and seafuries. I think I'm going to quit!"


But seriously:
1. If you quit because you can't buy no-longer-dropping/raid-dropping gear just by farming seafuries for 10 hours... yeah.
2. WTF items are auctioning for close to a million pp?
3. This isn't live, and this isn't 2001.
4. If an item is more expensive than you think it should be, maybe you should go get the item instead of trying to buy it.
5. There is probably much more than 4x the plat here than there would have been on a similarly sized live server in the middle of Kunark.
Sorry I have no interest in discussing anything with you if you intend to post like a little child. I have my own children already.

My post was not a complaint, it was an observation about the economy and an indication that I will perhaps choose, as is my right, whether or not to invest what little time I have free on a server that appears to have a broken economy.

If you want to employ me to play P1999 on a wage then you can decide whether I will continue to play or not, otherwise please go take your opinions of how I should play and think, and go walk in traffic, and I'll continue to decide whether the server is worth playing on or not myself.

thanks.

[Safon]

Sorry I have no interest in discussing anything with you if you intend to post like a little child. I have my own children already.

My post was not a complaint, it was an observation about the economy and an indication that I will perhaps choose, as is my right, whether or not to invest what little time I have free on a server that appears to have a broken economy.

If you want to employ me to play P1999 on a wage then you can decide whether I will continue to play or not, otherwise please go take your opinions of how I should play and think, and go walk in traffic, and I'll continue to decide whether the server is worth playing on or not myself.

thanks.

Insulting or not, his points are all spot on and make you look ignorant. Just get off the server already, sounds like WoW is more your speed. Or since you're an adult with kids, you could, you know, spend that extra time with your family. Just a thought

[fischsemmel]

I didn't tell you whether you should play, nor did I tell you how you should play. I did say that you'd be dumb to quit p99 just because you can't get phat lewtz with minimal time and effort.

Also, your post was a complaint, what with complaint being defined as "an expression of discontent" and your post quite plainly being an expression of discontent.

You're welcome.

[Hagglebaron]

Yeah the economy seems pretty screwed up, I'm having some doubts whether its going to be worthwhile staying around now solely because of this. By the sounds of it to get a high level set of tradable gear at 60 its going to be costing multiple millions in platinum's with some items I'm seeing being auctioned close to a million by themselves.

Comparatively on my server back in 2001 we were paying 2.5k for a FBSS, here its 10k at best, gatorscale legs were 200pp, here they're 800pp.

Problem being plat generation from gameplay hasn't quadrupled but prices seem to have.

Cheese with your whine?

[SirAlvarex]

It's just the same old issue: people who play a lot control the flow of currency, and those that can't play a lot (or don't get lucky with some uber rare drops in XP camps) can't keep up.

Personally I don't care. It'd be nice if an FBSS didn't require camping 18+ hours, either at Frenzy or at some overly camped money spawn. Especially since haste items are make or break for some classes.

It's the same thing with Fungis going for around 10k on Tunare back in the day. Back then 10k sure was a lot, and amassing that kind of money would take months of work. Here? Those that have played on the server for 2+ years ask why you're whining when it takes you 6 months of normal play to afford such an item.

And yes, the "If you know how to make money, you will!" argument as well as "Geeze you sound like you wuv WoW too much nub" insults do the insulter more of a disservice. I mean, to make money to afford the fungi requires playing the EC market (which has died down considerably lately it seems) 10+ hours a day just so you can do a few duo groups is pretty crazy.

And minimal time and effort in EQ can be 2 years+ to reach levels 40+, and for some people 400+ hours within. I don't think it's unreasonable at all for someone to want to shave that down to a more manageable time frame.

Well, except that a lot of people like having that barrier of time between them and someone just starting out. Much easier to stand on pedestals that way :D

[SirAlvarex]

BTW, most things are actually under old-live market value. SSoY going for like 500pp? They were atleast 1k on Tunare up until Luclin. Same with the onslaught of other unsellable 2-handed weapons.

It's just the "Best buyable in slot" items that are so high. Which are the only items that intrigue those with 500k+ plat to burn. If level 60's thought gnoll-hide lariats were uber, I bet we'd see them go for 500pp too :)

[fischsemmel]

Jagged Band? Perma-camped by level 60s.

I'll believe that when I see it.


Also, fire and brimstone and "why is my super casual playstyle not rewarding me in p99???"

[fischsemmel]

For example I'm seeing items like Goblin Skull Crushers and Deadwood Staves regularly being auctioned at 500-1000pp prices. 3-4 months ago these items were 250pp (500 **MAX**)

Dwarven workboots? 1k. Jagged Band? Perma-camped by level 60s, 500pp+. etc etc etc.

Auctions in last 1-2 weeks per http://ahungry.com/eqauctions/

Deadwood staff: under 50pp
Goblin skullcrusher: under 100pp
Dwarven workboots: under 500p
Jagged band: under 100pp


Also: MORE FIRE AND FUCKING BRIMSTONE

[Hagglebaron]

Yeesh where do these ignorant doom and gloomers come from, they are so ridiculously off the mark

[fishingme]

BTW, most things are actually under old-live market value. SSoY going for like 500pp? They were atleast 1k on Tunare up until Luclin. Same with the onslaught of other unsellable 2-handed weapons.

It's just the "Best buyable in slot" items that are so high. Which are the only items that intrigue those with 500k+ plat to burn. If level 60's thought gnoll-hide lariats were uber, I bet we'd see them go for 500pp too :)

Some items will be cheaper, others will be the same price, and the rest will be higher

[Flunklesnarkin]

stuff is ridiculously overpriced.. but its also ridiculously easy to make money starting off also.

and lots of folks also toss out items for free too.

[Ikonoclastia]

Insulting or not, his points are all spot on and make you look ignorant. Just get off the server already, sounds like WoW is more your speed. Or since you're an adult with kids, you could, you know, spend that extra time with your family. Just a thought
His points are all spot on why? Why does it sound like WoW is more my speed? How do you know how much time I spend with my family?

Why did you even waste time typing up that awful response. Why am I wasting time post a response to you....

[Kingofqueens123]

tl;dr
shut it down!

[Ikonoclastia]

Cheese with your whine?
I posted the following

"Yeah the economy seems pretty screwed up, I'm having some doubts whether its going to be worthwhile staying around now solely because of this."

I'm a level 19 ranger, first character, no charity, I have silver swiftblade, mithril breast plate, jagged bands, seb scale armors in other slots.

I'm doing pretty well from camping Pyzjn and have no reason to whine on a personal level. My comment was an observation of the economy and my reasons for feeling like I may leave were based on the state of the economy.

[Flunklesnarkin]

What armor set are you trying to buy that costs millions lol

[fischsemmel]

I posted the following

"Yeah the economy seems pretty screwed up, I'm having some doubts whether its going to be worthwhile staying around now solely because of this."

I'm a level 19 ranger, first character, no charity, I have silver swiftblade, mithril breast plate, jagged bands, seb scale armors in other slots.

I'm doing pretty well from camping Pyzjn and have no reason to whine on a personal level. My comment was an observation of the economy and my reasons for feeling like I may leave were based on the state of the economy.

I'm a bit confused as to why you might want to leave the server because of the economy if you are doing well for yourself as a fresh character and have no complaints about the economy as it relates to you, personally.

[Ikonoclastia]

What armor set are you trying to buy that costs millions lol
That's not really the issue. I think the issues are players having 700k to spend on 1 item. Newbies trying to sell items they've obtained to players that have 700k to spend on 1 item. A lack of newbies for other newbies to sell to. The twink market.

I think it all combines to create a very newbie unfriendly economy and highlights the emu in project1999.

[Loly Taa]

All I have to say is, I hope they merge all that sweet loot over from p99 red. Characters with full Russet? Cheap manastones? Sign me right the f*** up.

[Flunklesnarkin]

That's not really the issue. I think the issues are players having 700k to spend on 1 item. Newbies trying to sell items they've obtained to players that have 700k to spend on 1 item. A lack of newbies for other newbies to sell to. The twink market.

I think it all combines to create a very newbie unfriendly economy and highlights the emu in project1999.

thats a problem that all mmo's have not just this emu


eventually people get best gear etc and have a stockpile of money left over


there are things other mmo's have done to try and take money out of the economy


basically making money sinks


like item decay.. (need to repair equipment)


zone tolls / fees


maybe lose money on death


quests that take tons of in game currency to finish (typically for epic weapon type items)


only type of eq-ish server i can think of that wouldn't have any sort of huge economy problems between new players and old players would be to remove the usefulness of plat all together..

maybe make all weapons and armor not tradeable

[Ikonoclastia]

Yeah, my comment was 1 sentence long not a slam of the entire server :cool:

[Flunklesnarkin]

Yeah, my comment was 1 sentence long not a slam of the entire server :cool:

yah.. i'm not slamming server either i like it..


was just letting you know that its a problem all mmo's have eventually.. unless they become super casual and make money not an issue at all.

[Ikonoclastia]

yah.. i'm not slamming server either i like it..


was just letting you know that its a problem all mmo's have eventually.. unless they become super casual and make money not an issue at all.
Yeah, mudflation seems to have been somewhat accelerated here though * a lot. Do you recall anyone on your servers back before Velious that had millions of pp? I don't. The only person I knew who had over a million PP was a necro named Spathic who used a plat duping bug in Thurgadin and got banned for it.

[fischsemmel]

I'm a bit confused as to why you might want to leave the server because of the economy if you are doing well for yourself as a fresh character and have no complaints about the economy as it relates to you, personally.

[chosen one]

No red player will last long on blue it just would never hhave the same amount of excitement. The climate is way to political, and red players will take blue players millions with the farmed loots and many RMTers will be comping at the bit and many bans will happen. The end of red is the end of blue imo as an unbiased observer with 50s in 2 of the 3 top guilds in red99!

[Hagglebaron]

Blue was around and healthy long before red existed

[Ikonoclastia]

I'm a bit confused as to why you might want to leave the server because of the economy if you are doing well for yourself as a fresh character and have no complaints about the economy as it relates to you, personally.
I have no complaints about my current gear for my level now however if the economy is flooded with plat, duped or otherwise, then its not going to be much fun to play since the market and trades is / was a big part of Everquest, at least for me.

Doing some research it seems there was a lot of duping going on at one stage and a lot of plat was duped (allegedly one guy had 25 million pp when he got banned) because of a flaw in the emu code.

[fischsemmel]

I guess I just never really thought that any players would stop having fun in the game because they can't afford to buy gear with plat.

What droppables could you ever need on your ranger so badly that you will stop having fun playing unless you have them?

[Ikonoclastia]

I guess I just never really thought that any players would stop having fun in the game because they can't afford to buy gear with plat.

What droppables could you ever need on your ranger so badly that you will stop having fun playing unless you have them?
You have unfortunately missed the entire point of the fun of trading. Its not about obtaining gear to wear.

If you cannot obtain items to sell (because there's no market left to sell them in) and you cannot buy items in market (because everything desirable is out of the reach of your budget) then there is no market. The only market that will exist will be closed and accessible to those who have a shiteload of plat ie a twink market which is what I think we have.

[fischsemmel]

Isn't the whole "I have a sub-20 ranger with gear that I could not have obtained but for use of the market" kind of proof that there ARE obtainable items to sell and there ARE desirable and affordable items to buy?


I'm a level 19 ranger, first character, no charity, I have silver swiftblade, mithril breast plate, jagged bands, seb scale armors in other slots.

You camped something that any level 20 can kill and sold the item for thousands of pp, which you then used to buy items (silver swiftblade = chardok. seb scale armors = sebilis. etc.) that you could not have obtained directly until level 50+. And yet here you are complaining about how the only market on this server is only accessible if you are a millionaire.

What. The. Fudge.

[Hagglebaron]

He has no idea what he's talking about, just ingnore him. I've personally watched players walk onto the server fresh and within a few weeks become very successful traders with plenty of plat and items. I see plenty of good items going for reasonable prices everyday

[aegeryen]

I dont think its that big of an issue there's always haves and have nots in all mmo's . Yes it sucks for fresh players to try to play a tank class in this economy , and those people have a bitch, I guess , because it is tough if not impossible for a fresh untwinked warrior to hold aggro off the twinked to the max rogue , and the hybrid xp penalty is a bit daunting . But it was the same in live .

Most other classes function just fine without 10k+ in gear . My cleric whos 16 does just fine in most situations and is half geared with decent low to mid quality stuff . Theres just less and less tanks as I level , and thats an issue .

But really , I dont see how a few more rich guys are going to make that big of a difference ...I talk to more than a few new players to the server pretty regularly , and well most of us dont care about the rogue with the CoF and fungi tunic , maybe a little envious but thats about it .

[Ikonoclastia]

He has no idea what he's talking about, just ingnore him. I've personally watched players walk onto the server fresh and within a few weeks become very successful traders with plenty of plat and items. I see plenty of good items going for reasonable prices everyday
Well it works for politicians, why not gamers too. Ignoring the obvious for personal gain / self interest that is.

[Slave]

My cleric whos 16 does just fine in most situations

[Splorf22]

Ikon, people are laughing at you because you think you should be able to buy top-line raid gear at L20. Your L20 character already has gear that drops off of L50 mobs. Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy gear that drops from the highest level mobs in the game right now at L20? The mere fact that this gear is available at all is evidence that we have way more of a market here on P1999 than on Live.

P.S. +1 Loly. The real haves/havenots on this server are the ones that farmed gear that gets taken out, like the manastone, guise, prenerf Fungi staff, etc. If it were up to me these items would be either removed from day 1, left in place permanently, or moved to more challenging mobs, but not "lets leave the gear on the easy mobs and then take it away and screw over everyone who joined a little later".

[seaweedpimpz]

sorry splorf its called a classic timeline


WE TRY TO EMULATE

[Splorf22]

Sure, on the whole I think the server is better for just being 100% classic rather than making, say, the splorf changes that I would consider balanced rather than whatever changes you would consider balanced etc etc.

[Ikonoclastia]

Ikon, people are laughing at you because you think you should be able to buy top-line raid gear at L20. Your L20 character already has gear that drops off of L50 mobs. Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy gear that drops from the highest level mobs in the game right now at L20? The mere fact that this gear is available at all is evidence that we have way more of a market here on P1999 than on Live.

P.S. +1 Loly. The real haves/havenots on this server are the ones that farmed gear that gets taken out, like the manastone, guise, prenerf Fungi staff, etc. If it were up to me these items would be either removed from day 1, left in place permanently, or moved to more challenging mobs, but not "lets leave the gear on the easy mobs and then take it away and screw over everyone who joined a little later".
I dont think u read my posts properly. Im not complaining Im commenting. I never said I should be able to get high end gear for my level 20, I said It looks like if I was level 60 and wanted to buy top droppable gear it would cost multi million. Theres a massive dif there.

[Splorf22]

And you are still wrong. IF I wanted to assemble the maximum droppable gear ranger (note that this includes God/Dragon loot which would never be available for sale on Live):

Tolan's BP 150k
Tolan's Legs 150k
Cloak of Flames 150k
NoS 40k
RBG 50k
Fingerbone Hoop: 20k
Enshrouded Veil: 10k
Other slots: 50k tops

= 620k

If you pass on the BP/Legs which aren't game changing items compared Thorny Vine and then get a Dark cloak of the Sky+RBB instead of the CoF/RBG, you can save yourself 400k. and get 99% of BiS effectiveness for 250k tops.

On the other hand, if you group in Sebilis/HS from 50+ your groups will be making 3kpp or more per hour. It takes maybe 30 hours of XP per level, so 300 hours x 500pp = 150k. So basically you would do it like every other ranger, buy the RBG/NoS and such and get the CoF + Tolans from raiding.

Of course the only guild that does Trakanon/VS right now is TMO, and the competition on the high end raid scene is ugly and fierce, but its far from impossible.

[fischsemmel]

Ikon, I already established that you are, in fact, complaining. What you are doing (expressing discontent about a situation) is the exact, dictionary definition of the word.

Others AND I have established that you are greatly exaggerating the prices of items on the server and how difficult it is to make money by playing the market and how few people are buying and how rich how many people are.

Unless you want to do something other than keep COMPLAINING without basing your COMPLAINTS in FACT... shut teh hell ups.

[Ikonoclastia]

Fish, you need to look up the correct definition of "established", heres a hint, it isnt a likely incorrect self serving opinion.

[fischsemmel]

Fish, you need to look up the correct definition of "established", heres a hint, it isnt a likely incorrect self serving opinion.

I looked up the definition of "complaint" in a dictionary. Your jabbering in this thread matches the definition perfectly. If you want to prove otherwise, go for it. If not, at least stop claiming that I'm just stating unfounded opinions when I am the one of the two of us providing reasoning and support to the statements I make.

I, among others, provided examples and explanations that demonstrate the market is not such as you describe it. You have not only not provided anything to demonstrate that you are correct or that we are wrong, but your description of your ranger and his gear and how you got it helps OUR position.


Unless you want to do something other than keep COMPLAINING without basing your COMPLAINTS in FACT... shut teh hell ups.

[Ikonoclastia]

Lol you looked up the definition of complaint in the dictionary. Congratulations, unfortunately dictionaries cant tell you the motivations behind a forum post. I however can tell you the motivation behind mine and it was not intended to be a complaint, merely an opinion on the state of the economy based on observations I made.

As to your explanations and examples, I disagree with them, I believe they are based on biased self serving opinion and an unhealthy dose of fanboyism.

Now if you were to provide actual real information to back up your opinion, it could be taken as other then what it appears to be, just another biased opinion.

I imagine you'll next appear in this thread dual wielding thesauri's and attempting once again to obfuscate your opinion by posing it as magical fact.

Lets hope not.

[Grozmok]

Inflation or not, if you play the damn game you'll eventually get one of those high value items (I'm not talking about raid items, either). Sell it and viola, now you've got your very own wheelbarrow of ruples which you can trade with another player for a loaf of bread.

/thread

[Motec]

Could just be ***** rich like me

[HarrisonStillPosting]

OP should be banned for rumor mongering about wipes etc.

[funhorroryes]

im really excited about this merger tbh, im not a caster but manastone really helps efreeti camp exp, its going to be awesome when there are 3,943,911,434 brought to the server


the economy is already fucked

new players > an even more fucked up economy

[HarrisonStillPosting]

It's not happening.

[Nirgon]

In case you guys didn't notice red99 pop has been plummeting, under 100 played during prime time with the number still heading down. What's going to happen eventually is those characters will be merged into blue.

What does this mean for you?
Think you're cool for having full russet? Here comes dozens of people with it. Dozen+ mistwalkers inc. Know how theres only 3 thex daggers on blue? Get ready for there to be 5000. over 1000 new manastones introduced into the economy. Inactive characters being traded away tanks the account economy. Millions of plat are being farmed right now on a dead server in order to prepare for the merge.

Ready for your market to crash? Cuz it's inc.

INC 600+ thex daggers.

[Sirken]

as shown by the sheer amount of tears, most (not all) of the red community would just quit when they saw how the blue xp grind was.

the red grind is obscenely easier than on blue.

[Leftoverture]

what is groups

[Lucky]

what is groups

its what you use when youre boxing to split the xp across all ur chars

[Drem]

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTEs7HP2Ut_Y5WE1yj3v6szq-eD-xHiym_ypZPe5g92TWI3MHpaOm2NmQ2ZlQ

[Nirgon]

as shown by the sheer amount of tears, most (not all) of the red community would just quit when they saw how the blue xp grind was.

the red grind is obscenely easier than on blue.

For non-melees.

Don't forget also, Big Sirken, that there's tons of dirt cheap or even free weapons better than yaks and shit on blue, as well as tons of people around to port/bind newbies or give them sow, thorns, regen, c2 wtfever in EC all the time.