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Rogean
04-14-2010, 03:13 PM
It's getting fucking annoying getting an email a minute, especially when I'm waiting for email corrospondense from the data center. Posts made in this forum are unmoderated with a few exceptions (like discussion about Staff members or discussions of bans). If you don't want people trash talking you, don't post here.

But stop reporting fucking posts.

Shannacore
04-14-2010, 03:17 PM
This seems slightly unfair to me, because in a lot of cases harmless posting gets harmful responses. I can post something totally relevant and on-topic and still get douchebaggery for no reason. Players shouldn't be turned away from posting because of unnecessary things like that. Yes people make posts where they are obviously askin' for it, but I've seen a lot of threads where that's not the case.

:(

Hasbinbad
04-14-2010, 03:18 PM
Rogean, are you specifically talking about the "!" report button in the thread? If people are breaking server rules, it is still OK to use the petition forum right?

Wenai
04-14-2010, 03:23 PM
For the most part the R&F is unmoderated. That doesn't mean that you can use racial, sexual, homophobic, ageist, religious, political, ethnic, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities).

It just means you have a place that you can bicker with one another and not clog up the main forum.

Ektar
04-14-2010, 03:28 PM
This seems slightly unfair to me, because in a lot of cases harmless posting gets harmful responses. I can post something totally relevant and on-topic and still get douchebaggery for no reason. Players shouldn't be turned away from posting because of unnecessary things like that. Yes people make posts where they are obviously askin' for it, but I've seen a lot of threads where that's not the case.

:(

use server chat for your on-topic posts. When those posts are responded with the wrong shit then it will be moderated. The whole point of this section is lack of moderation. And as people slowly learn, as I have, you stop posting here :p

Hasbinbad
04-14-2010, 03:30 PM
For the most part the R&F is unmoderated. That doesn't mean that you can use racial, sexual, homophobic, ageist, religious, political, ethnic, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities).

It just means you have a place that you can bicker with one another and not clog up the main forum.
So if someone is blatantly mocking the rules, it is OK to use the "petition/exploit forum" to bring evidence to the mod's attention right? My main concern is not making Rogean miss his important email. That was never my intent or anyone else's I'm sure, and I'm sure we all want to avoid that. However, since we all know that GM's do not actively read rnf, certain things may need to be brought to your attention. I'm trying to get a public answer on how we should go about doing that.

Soo /!\ = bad, but petition/exploit forum = good?

Hasbinbad
04-14-2010, 03:33 PM
The whole point of this section is lack of moderation.
Wrong.
For the most part the R&F is unmoderated. That doesn't mean that you can use racial, sexual, homophobic, ageist, religious, political, ethnic, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities).

isitatomic
04-14-2010, 03:36 PM
So, F&R is for "stupid threads complaining about stupid shit" and it is entirely up to the folks with the daddypants to decide what deserves locking. Okay, got it, it's a cesspool to be avoided at all costs. Appreciate the clarity and apologies for the email BS.

I only wonder: How a notice, using the guidelines that spell out what qualifies as stupid shit, that cesspool-worthy stupid shit is being tossed around in areas other than the cesspool, itself qualifies as a stupid thread complaining about stupid shit.

Many of us have limited or no desire to take a dip in the cesspool, and when some of the stupid shit splashes out of it and (understandably) goes unnoticed, we simply want to know what to do. When that is squelched, hence the confusion, or my own at the very least.

Bones
04-14-2010, 03:43 PM
Many of us have limited or no desire to take a dip in the cesspool, and when some of the stupid shit splashes out of it and (understandably) goes unnoticed, we simply want to know what to do.

Ignore it.

isitatomic
04-14-2010, 03:47 PM
Ignore it.

In game, obviously. /ignore is a beautiful thing.

On the forums... I see a Petition section.... and a Report Post button..... not so much /ignore.

Hasbinbad
04-14-2010, 03:48 PM
<Hasbinbad> is he talking about the ! button or posting things in the petition forum?
<Wenai> ! Button
<Wenai> Come to me directly if things are highly offensive... don't flame bait people either.
<Wenai> Petition/Exploit forum won't send out an email.
<Wenai> ..[it's] fine to post on petition/exploit or to contact me directly

President
04-14-2010, 03:49 PM
In game, obviously. /ignore is a beautiful thing.

On the forums... I see a Petition section.... and a Report Post button..... not so much /ignore.

Does what people post on the forums of a free 11 year old game really frustrate you that bad that you just HAVE to do something about it?

Taslion
04-14-2010, 03:49 PM
Oh my god, it's almost like none of you have ever talked to people on the internet. Is it really so hard to just ignore or deal with people you don't like?

Grento
04-14-2010, 03:50 PM
Ok, much clearer. What I am understanding is that R&F is only for willing participants, if you are not a willing participant then you report stuff that is about you.

ulrich
04-14-2010, 03:51 PM
Warning Video contains smoking of Meth.

You agree that you are at least 18 years of age by clicking the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcXwd6k76f4

Ektar
04-14-2010, 03:51 PM
use server chat for your on-topic posts. When those posts are responded with the wrong shit then it will be moderated. The whole point of this section is lack of moderation. And as people slowly learn, as I have, you stop posting here :p

Wrong.

For the most part the R&F is unmoderated. That doesn't mean that you can use racial, sexual, homophobic, ageist, religious, political, ethnic, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities).

It just means you have a place that you can bicker with one another and not clog up the main forum.



Lack does not mean complete absense of. I'm sorry, sir, but you are putting words in my mouth. Your victim, shanna, did not say she is responded with racial, sexual, etc. abuses. Just abuses. And these other abuses are unmoderated, as is the point of the forum.

ashecrimson
04-14-2010, 04:00 PM
Get rid of Hasbinbad = problem fixed

Shannacore
04-14-2010, 04:00 PM
Get rid of Hasbinbad = problem fixed

Hasbin isn't the one making the foul comments. He's just the one calling people out for them.

Bones
04-14-2010, 04:02 PM
In game, obviously. /ignore is a beautiful thing.

On the forums... I see a Petition section.... and a Report Post button..... not so much /ignore.

You don't HAVE to be able to /ignore something to just simply ignore it.

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Does what people post on the forums of a free 11 year old game really frustrate you that bad that you just HAVE to do something about it?

isitatomic
04-14-2010, 04:07 PM
Does what people post on the forums of a free 11 year old game really frustrate you that bad that you just HAVE to do something about it?

No, I would much rather go with the flow and let BS drivel reign supreme while I spend several hours per week begrudgingly holding it in.

I get off on investing mass quantities of time in shutting up in groups that I'm in.

Or not.

There is a crazy amount of people around who don't SAY what they THINK... no idea why. Apathy, it's not for everyone.

xshayla701
04-14-2010, 04:34 PM
Hasbin isn't the one making the foul comments. He's just the one calling people out for them.

this

Hasbinbad
04-14-2010, 04:37 PM
Apathy, it's not for everyone.
http://i41.tinypic.com/jij8kw.gif

Ferok
04-14-2010, 04:44 PM
It's getting fucking annoying getting an email a minute,

Somewhere there's gotta be a checkbox for that.

Loke
04-14-2010, 04:46 PM
Bunch of pansies ITT.*

*disclaimer: Not talking about staff or any specific person in particular

TheDudeAbides
04-14-2010, 04:47 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/Frost327/Joker/1181911796832.gif

Budah
04-14-2010, 04:51 PM
Here's what I think will solve the problem.

The devs make a thread in News & Announcements saying basically that if 2 or more users report a post of yours you will be issued a warning for the first occurrence. For the second, you have a 24hr posting probation. 3rd, 3 day, 4th ban.

This is NOT retroactive so reports from posts previous to the issue of this thread will be ignored. If you have a complaint about another user then do so in the R&F forums, however, the R&F thread still follows the rules of the forums.

/solved

YendorLootmonkey
04-14-2010, 04:57 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd rather have the admins/devs spending their time getting the server back online and fixing any bugs/glitches than having to deal with the petty shit we say to each other here on the forums.

I think we all know what's crossing the line or not, some of us are just not willing to admit it. And some of us purposely provoke others. And some of us don't care what others think of what we say. And some of us are probably over-sensitive and not very realistic about their expectations of internet communication. But we're all stuck here together on the same server and forum... and if the top guilds can learn to work together and minimize the petty bickering over raid targets, then maybe we should let that serve as a role model for the rest of us.

Or maybe we can just hope to survive each others' BS until the servers come back online and the forum becomes more of a ghost town. :) Now I understand why, when we were kids fighting with our brothers and sisters, our parents kicked us the hell out of the house as soon as the weather got nice.

Shannacore
04-14-2010, 05:00 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd rather have the admins/devs spending their time getting the server back online and fixing any bugs/glitches than having to deal with the petty shit we say to each other here on the forums.


Too bad there can't be a separate just forums moderator.

yaaaflow
04-14-2010, 05:03 PM
With backseat moderators like yall telling them how to run their forums who needs real moderation am i right?

Ferok
04-14-2010, 05:08 PM
Too bad there can't be a separate just forums moderator.

This.

President
04-14-2010, 05:11 PM
This.

Isn't that pretty much what Secrets does? Guess we could probably use more petition/forum moderators. Though really there's only a couple people whining about it.

Ferok
04-14-2010, 05:21 PM
Isn't that pretty much what Secrets does? Guess we could probably use more petition/forum moderators. Though really there's only a couple people whining about it.

No idea who does what. I'm just supporting the idea that if the devs don't want to moderate the forums, they shouldn't have to.

But, like it or not, someone does need to sweep up around here.

Prospect
04-14-2010, 05:46 PM
I wish I was good at EverQuest

Transient
04-14-2010, 06:25 PM
I feel like I can identify with what Rogean is probably feeling right now. I work in management and everyday I have problems that mirror the crap that goes on here and in game. Anyone who has ever worked in a restaurant dreads when a piece of equipment breaks or the power goes out in the store. All you are thinking about is getting it up and running so that your employees can do their job and your customers don't experience unsatisfactory service or even have a clue what is going on. The minute an employee comes to you and starts complaining about another employee you want to just slap the person in the face. Why? Because most of the time what they are crying about is something that is so pointless in the grand scheme of what's going on. You guys have to realize how much crap the devs have to deal with on this server. I'm sure right now they're wondering why they even do this shit for free. If you think for one minute about all the work they put in and how much sleep they're losing over it you'll probably realize how unimportant it is to them that your internet ego was tarnished by what someone said on these forums. I'm not trying to go on a rant even though I already have but I just really want everyone to take a deep breath, relax, and maybe send Rogean an email saying "Thank you for all you've done," instead of trying to moderate everything you see as "unfair" or "wrong."

Daviss34
04-14-2010, 07:20 PM
Originally Posted by Shannacore
Too bad there can't be a separate just forums moderator.

That sounds absurd, people need to grow up and just realize there are lots of aholes out there and nothing is going to chance that fact.

Alawen Everywhere
04-14-2010, 07:21 PM
The latest round of bitching is seriously epic. The server is down, so now we have to fight over who can call who what names in which forum?

Brilliant!

jilena
04-14-2010, 10:02 PM
Alawen! Where is my WDS cloak?!

Finawin
04-14-2010, 10:03 PM
This community has gone full-blown fucking baby in the few days I was gone.

WAAAH LETTERS ON MY SCREEN WAAAH

Hasbinbad
07-04-2013, 09:14 PM
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Hailto
07-04-2013, 09:32 PM
Pls don't do that.

chtulu
07-04-2013, 10:41 PM
Shannon is fat.

Nune
07-04-2013, 10:51 PM
snitches get stitches

Ektar
07-04-2013, 11:13 PM
gosh I love seeing old threads with my name in it

I love seeing my name