Proof that the GMs are Racist

[Aruden]

They closed this (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55354) thread.

The GMs not only ignored the coherent arguments presented by several members of the server, they actually closed the thread. Welcome to ProjectNazi99.

[Harrison]

Purist a racist lowlife scumbag? Nowai.

[Aruden]

"This message is hidden because purest is on your ignore list."

[Humerox]

seems to me slurs are OK when it's not you being insulted.

[Truth]

my grandfather actually died in a Nazi concentration camp :( he got drunk and fell off his watch tower

[Truth]

btw gms basically closed thread to tell you to shut the fuck up with your whining about guild that has like 7 actives anyway not even named after an event that happened over 65 years ago.

grow a vagina

[Truth]

yea SO WUT ! OBAMA A COMMIE AND YOUR WORRIED ABOUT THIS

[Truth]

Okay seriously no trolling you bring this side of me out and I don't give a fuck about Jews but why you care so much about pixels
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[Tombom]

yea SO WUT ! OBAMA A COMMIE AND YOUR WORRIED ABOUT THIS

this this this srs bsns

[Diggles]

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/bb7542f2-862a-46c6-aab5-b4de9580b644.jpg

[Truth]

when i said I dont give a fuck about Jews I mean't I don't give a fuck either way.

I care that the holocaust was pretty shitty and a lot of the people didn't deserve to die and shit but owell its not the first or last time shit pops off what you gonna do besides whine on everquest emulator forums about it 65 years later

[Hasbinbad]

what you gonna do besides whine
Make sure that there is a section of every population in the world that is so militant about condemning even the thought of ethnic cleansing, that outrage is felt when the words are actually spoken, so that riots happen if it's proposed, and that all hell breaks loose before that shit ever happens again.

[Truth]

No can do something like 2/3 of us have to die like cattle during the apocalypse in order for Jesus to come back

[Truth]

Fourth Seal of Revelations 6:7 - Death by weapons, famine, evil men.

Fifth Seal of Revelations 6:9 - Religious persecution and tribulation for the word of God. Fall of Babylon the Great (America)

[Truth]

Sixth Trumpet of Revelations 9:13-17 - Army of 200 million; 1/3 of men killed. At the end of the 6th trumpet the two witnesses are killed.

[Hasbinbad]

The irony of you quoting old testament scripture: HIGH.

[Hasbinbad]

Nevermind, I'm dumb. All that doom and gloom got me twisted. Ignore me.

[Daldolma]

l2bible

[Diggles]

only stuff I know from the bible is the stuff from Dexter

[Truth]

Tired of this topic we have discussed into the dirt thrice now each time ultimately ending with gm locking thread. Change the name or ban the 1 jackass who keeps spamming about it.

[Drem]

ya i've never heard the word holocaust used in any other context than world war II. didn't even know it had a meaning outside of that. using its definition as a back up because it's not "The Holocaust" is a pretty fucking poor defense for being a skinhead so you can have a guild named Holocaust

[Diggles]

ya i've never heard the word holocaust used in any other context than world war II. didn't even know it had a meaning outside of that. using its definition as a back up because it's not "The Holocaust" is a pretty fucking poor defense for being a skinhead so you can have a guild named Holocaust

Translation: I have the vocabulary of a fucking goldfish.

[Diggles]

If you were slightly more intelligent than a pile of shit out of my cat's litterbox you might realize the word existed before the Germans discovered the easy bake oven.

[purest]

he was confirmed to be using multiple forum accounts to pretend he had support in the thread

The fallacies in this thread and the other started by you - on another forum account to pretend that you have some support - do not warrant further response from nilbog.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=472903&postcount=54

[purest]

guessing pickled heretic/aruden same person

[Diggles]

That would make sense. Aruden claims to pity me and Pickled made me an avatar.

[Truth]

and he almost got away with it too it was a good run y'all

[Truth]

...but the jig is up

[Sextar]

confirmed good run

[Diggles]

confirmed

[Hasbinbad]

easy bake oven
You're bad at being a person.

[Diggles]

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[Humerox]

ya i've never heard the word holocaust used in any other context than world war II. didn't even know it had a meaning outside of that.

crystallized intelligence.

i remember when the holocaust meant you should start looking for a radioactive shelter.

[Truth]

not to be anti-semantic but we're basically arguing the difference between a holocaust and The Holocaust™

[Humerox]

yup. and we have been since Aruden started,lol

[Hasbinbad]

You guys shouldn't pretend there is no other meaning for holocaust. It is a general term, which is actually in wide use still, and was even more so before WW2.

I feel the same way you guys do, but I'm a stickler for technicalities and justice, and without some further evidence, it's ridiculous to keep this going.

Now if one of them uses anti-Semitic rhetoric ... even once ... then I can see outrage, because that would seal up the intent of the name.

I mean, you and I both know what is going on, but what about other people who may be accused of the same thing? The precedent of changing the name or persecuting without justice should not be set, imho.

[pickled_heretic]

guessing pickled heretic/aruden same person

your reading comprehension is terrible... the other account of aruden's is pretty obviously the one he used to make http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53259 (this thread.)

i would ask for further vindication from a forum admin here but a mental midget like you isn't worth wasting neither my, nor an admin's time. especially from someone who posts rubbish like this in these threads:

http://revisionists.com/photos/auschwitz_the_story_keeps_c.jpg

isn't it past due for you to post more denier propaganda? it might be an appropriate time to post some of it, just so everyone knows your real purpose here, right? it has nothing to do with defending the guild's name, it's because you're a neonazi and you want to deemphasize the tragedy of the holocaust, right?

purest = wehrmacht confirmed?

[purest]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MbhOkLhEjO4/TSXRw1zQcjI/AAAAAAAABgE/fyPXDN9gyO8/s640/deesframed%2528site%2529.jpg

[pickled_heretic]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MbhOkLhEjO4/TSXRw1zQcjI/AAAAAAAABgE/fyPXDN9gyO8/s640/deesframed%2528site%2529.jpg

Wehrmacht confirmed. Grats everyone, how does it feel to be on the same side of an argument as wehrmacht? seriously, I would like to know.

[Diggles]

not any worse than being on the same side as aruden

[Diggles]

fucking idiot posted a thing on REDDIT trying to get people to vote in the poll

[Diggles]

You're bad at being a person.

I could have said far worse things

[pickled_heretic]

not any worse than being on the same side as aruden

You really want to compare aruden with purest? incorrigible and unintelligible are not even close to being synonyms.

[Diggles]

You really want to compare aruden with purest? incorrigible and unintelligible are not even close to being synonyms.

they're both idiots and they both have completely extreme views.

[pickled_heretic]

i'm sorry, i'll remember to use wehrmacht's real name from now on.

[pickled_heretic]

they're both idiots and they both have completely extreme views.

i'm sorry, there's nothing really extreme about calling for a little empathy. the fact that people can call a request for compassion and understanding "extreme" is pretty sad.

[pickled_heretic]

let me put it this way, comparing holocaust denial with anything aruden has done here is pretty fucking absurd and you are a toolbag for even trying to frame that argument.

[Diggles]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c56/KK3869/slapyourshit.jpg

[pickled_heretic]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c56/KK3869/slapyourshit.jpg

oh diggles, i can't stay angry at you for long. *sighs*

[Juugox2]

dumbest thread ever... i think aruden is trolling imo or hes just that stupid

[Odonk]

my grandfather actually died in a Nazi concentration camp :( he got drunk and fell off his watch tower

i fucking lol'd at this till i cried. thank you for posting. will have to repost in RL, lmao

[Odonk]

ya i've never heard the word holocaust used in any other context than world war II. didn't even know it had a meaning outside of that. using its definition as a back up because it's not "The Holocaust" is a pretty fucking poor defense for being a skinhead so you can have a guild named Holocaust

not our fault your uneducated

[Humerox]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/111/383/kc16xl.jpg?1318992465

[Odonk]

every time i read one of pickled-heretic or arudens posts, i feel a lil more racist each time. way to go turning someone like me, who doesnt care one way or the other, completely against feeling sympathy for you. the sheer amount of bullshit you have both spewed in 3 different threads is utterly astounding

[Aadill]

not our fault your uneducated

i agree with the sentiment but lol.

[Autotune]

i agree with the sentiment but lol.

i preferred diggles 2nd response to the original.


If you were slightly more intelligent than a pile of shit out of my cat's litterbox you might realize the word existed before the Germans discovered the easy bake oven.

[Aadill]

i was just pointing out your vs you're.

also: :diggles: should be an emoticon on this forum.

[Autotune]

i was just pointing out your vs you're.

also: :diggles: should be an emoticon on this forum.

oh, i thought it was one of those " moran " things.

[Aadill]

one can only hope...

[Odonk]

Yeah, my bad for the typo. I normally don't use apostrophes on forums, it isn't like i am writing a term paper. I hope this is proper enough for you.

[Aadill]

<3

[pickled_heretic]

Yeah, my bad for the typo. I normally don't use apostrophes on forums, it isn't like i am writing a term paper. I hope this is proper enough for you.

it's not that we want you to write a term paper dude, but if you're going to criticize someone's intelligence, you yourself need to not come across as a moron at that moment or your point loses its impetus.

[Odonk]

ooooh, more big words from the butthurt club

[Aadill]

Rune of Impetus.

[pickled_heretic]

ooooh, more big words from the butthurt club

butthurt > retarded erry day

[pickled_heretic]

and accusing me of sesquipedalianism? please, all of the words i use should be understandable by an 8th grader. except for the one i just used, which i keep in my vocabulary just because i find it hilariously ironic.

[Knuckle]

yea SO WUT ! OBAMA A COMMIE AND YOUR WORRIED ABOUT THIS

[Knuckle]

You guys shouldn't pretend there is no other meaning for holocaust. It is a general term, which is actually in wide use still, and was even more so before WW2.

I feel the same way you guys do, but I'm a stickler for technicalities and justice, and without some further evidence, it's ridiculous to keep this going.

Now if one of them uses anti-Semitic rhetoric ... even once ... then I can see outrage, because that would seal up the intent of the name.

I mean, you and I both know what is going on, but what about other people who may be accused of the same thing? The precedent of changing the name or persecuting without justice should not be set, imho.

quit being such a nazi about technicalities, name should be changed.

[Cujoy]

Are you kidding? You really petitioned for a name change based on what it "could" mean not what was meant by it? God I hope you die in a fire. Oh god that may be taken as antisemitic too call the care police!

[Aruden]

I feel sorry for all the people in this thread who take pleasure from making fun of others. People who are cruel aren't happy. Purest and Diggles obviously have serious problems. I hope they outgrow them some day.

My agenda in creating this thread was to inform the community about the GMs who run this server.

[Knuckle]

The GMs who run the server are racist? Got it. Great message Aruden.

[Aruden]

IMHO its important to know that GMs of a server tolerate racism before you play on or donate to the server.

[Cujoy]

Well it was nice knowing you, but clearly your ideals are in the way of you ever having fun on this server. Have a great time at Occupy Wall Street or wherever you plan on spending the rest of your free time.

[Knuckle]

Let's send trolluden to the ban cell.

[Szeth]

A work camp.

[Odonk]

butthurt > retarded erry day

the more you post the same shit over and over in this thread the more retarded you look bro. just sayin, should have given up awhile ago. beating a dead horse isnt going to get you anywhere... Einstein defined INSANE as performing the same act over and over expecting different results.

[pickled_heretic]

the more you post the same shit over and over in this thread the more retarded you look bro. just sayin, should have given up awhile ago. beating a dead horse isnt going to get you anywhere... Einstein defined INSANE as performing the same act over and over expecting different results.

butthurt > retarded erry day

[Odonk]

lmao

[Tiggles]

I dated a jewish girl once and her father was a lawyer and had lots of money.
He said that jews controlled the media and the banks and he thought that was P cool.

[Aruden]

I wouldn't be surprised if the GMs banned me, but if that happens, anyone on the server with a conscience should take note and ask yourself, what kind of people are in control of the countless hours you've invested on this server and who are you associating with by playing here?

The people we spend time with influence us. After seeing all the vitriol spewed in these threads, and realizing that the highest authorities on this sever not only tolerate it but support the guild name by closing the thread, I've concluded that I don't want to be influenced by these kinds of people.

Granted, there are some good people on the server, but unfortunately, they're a minority. Moreover, the people in control don't fall into this subgroup.

I'll leave the racist circle-jerk to the racists. You guys are welcome to rage each other. I encourage anyone with a conscience to reevaluate their decision to play here. The people you associate with will influence you. Every incoherent post by purest that you read degrades you that much more.

[Odonk]

I wouldn't be surprised if the GMs banned me, but if that happens, anyone on the server with a conscience should take note and ask yourself, what kind of people are in control of the countless hours you've invested on this server and who are you associating with by playing here?

The people we spend time with influence us. After seeing all the vitriol spewed in these threads, and realizing that the highest authorities on this sever not only tolerate it but support the guild name by closing the thread, I've concluded that I don't want to be influenced by these kinds of people.

Granted, there are some good people on the server, but unfortunately, they're a minority. Moreover, the people in control don't fall into this subgroup.

I'll leave the racist circle-jerk to the racists. You guys are welcome to rage each other. I encourage anyone with a conscience to reevaluate their decision to play here. The people you associate with will influence you. Every incoherent post by purest that you read degrades you that much more.

i would have to say, the kind that I will applaud for banning your whiny ass and allowing me to get back to my game as well as allowing a guild named <Holocaust> to keeps its non-racist name

[Diggles]

I have a bunch of friends who are willing to play P99 now that it's confirmed led by racists

[Aruden]

I have a bunch of friends who are willing to play P99 now that it's confirmed led by racists

Too bad imaginary friends can't play EQ.

[Hasbinbad]

http://i.imgur.com/4I1fz.png

[Diggles]

Too bad imaginary friends can't play EQ.

They're more real than the other 63 people who voted on the holocaust poll

[Hasbinbad]

They're more real than the other 63 people who voted on the holocaust poll
I was one of them, 62.

Also, OUCH SICK BURN.

[Knuckle]

Too bad imaginary friends can't play EQ.

i c wut u did thar

[Odonk]

http://www.claresceramichideaway.com/images/catalog/full%20sized/whimsical/trolls/trollMiniFull.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

http://i.imgur.com/hVy3n.jpg

[Aruden]

i have better things to do than make forum accounts for the poll so i couldnt care less about your unsubstantiated claims diggles. try harder to troll.

[Odonk]

i have better things to do than make forum accounts for the poll so i couldnt care less about your unsubstantiated claims diggles. try harder to troll.

pot calling kettle black...

[pickled_heretic]

Aruden is a kike. Jamie Foxx is a a ******. I am a kraut. Selma Hayek is a spic. Yao Ming is a chink.

And I bet you think that's racist don't you Aruden.

yeah, i'm pretty sure it is racist, actually.

[Hasbinbad]

I'm a racist cunt.
Reported.

[loopholbrook]

yeah, i'm pretty sure it is racist, actually.

Pretty sure that it's impartiality, actually. Don't understand how I can be racist towards everyone.

[Diggles]

The trick is to be prejudiced to EVERY race.

[pickled_heretic]

Pretty sure that it's impartiality, actually. Don't understand how I can be racist towards everyone.

the fact that aruden is a kike and jamie fox is a ****** is what makes it racist. those terms are not really interchangeable. the meaning of "******" changes when you call someone who isn't black a ******, for instance.

[Diggles]

and race in this world basically means skin pigment and beliefs.

I fucking hate everyone

[Hasbinbad]

Pretty sure that it's impartiality, actually. Don't understand how I can be racist towards everyone.
It's very easy. Just use epithets for every ethnicity, nationality, and culture.

[Lucidus]

The trick is to be prejudiced to EVERY race.

And sex. All 6 of them.

[Diggles]

So, am I allowed to say "I'm such a ****** (USED ACADEMICALLY HASBINBAD WTF)"?

[Diggles]

A friend of mine referred to bisexuality as "dual-booting"

I wanted to throw up on him then beat him with an SSD

[loopholbrook]

and race in this world basically means skin pigment and beliefs.

I fucking hate everyone

Diggles, when I first started posting on this forum, I could not stand you. The more I post the more I see that you're one of the few that gets its. Sad considering most of the people are 30 or older.

[Hasbinbad]

I'm a racist cunt.
Reported.

[Diggles]

I'm a 70 year old trapped in a 17 year old body.

[loopholbrook]

the fact that aruden is a kike and jamie fox is a ****** is what makes it racist. those terms are not really interchangeable. the meaning of "******" changes when you call someone who isn't black a ******, for instance.

You left out that Selma Hayek is a spic, Yao Ming is a chink, and I'm a kraut.

[pickled_heretic]

You left out that Selma Hayek is a spic, Yao Ming is a chink, and I'm a kraut.

it's a non sequitur. the fact that each of those terms is a pejorative that only applies to one ethnicity is what makes it racist. the fact that there is a derogatory epithet for most ethnicities is irrelevant.

[Diggles]

race isn't shit we're all humans

your argument would make sense once we start seeing dark elves and iksar at my local supermarket.

[Hasbinbad]

Regardless of your arguments, it is still against the rules to use epithets on these forums, and I will keep reporting you if you continue.

[loopholbrook]

it's a non sequitur. the fact that each of those terms is a pejorative that only applies to one ethnicity is what makes it racist. the fact that there is a derogatory epithet for most ethnicities is irrelevant.

Racism- a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

Sorry I missed the part that the words ******, spic, chink, and kike are racist. I'm not using the terms in a negative way, your mind is warping it to be racist.

[Diggles]

being a human and calling a dark elf an inky is racist

calling a black man a "******" is not racist it's prejudiced against their skin color

[pickled_heretic]

race isn't shit we're all humans

your argument would make sense once we start seeing dark elves and iksar at my local supermarket.

the genetic foundation of race is basically undeniable.

[loopholbrook]

the genetic foundation of race is basically undeniable.

What are you an Iksar or something? Get out of here scale face.

[Diggles]

what does that even fucking mean? We're all homo sapiens. There is no such thing as a black race or a jewish race or an asian race or fuckall

[pickled_heretic]

what does that even fucking mean? We're all homo sapiens. There is no such thing as a black race or a jewish race or an asian race or fuckall

yes, there is. "race" can mean different things. Do you seriously correct someone when they say "the african american race?" you know precisely what they mean. stop being stupid.

[pickled_heretic]

what does that even fucking mean? We're all homo sapiens. There is no such thing as a black race or a jewish race or an asian race or fuckall

I find that pretty generally, black parents tend to have black children. just one example i can think of.

[Diggles]

great, so skin pigment is passed down through genes, fucking amazing biology work there Einstein

[Hasbinbad]

the genetic foundation of race is basically undeniable.
Actually that is ridiculously untrue.

There is no such scientific class as race. Sociologists group people in terms of ethnicity, culture, and nationality.

Race is a pseudo scientific term which lumps people together based on arbitrary observations, such as skin color or eye shape.

Terms like Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid were used as tools by a small group of people (supported by a large racist population) in mainly America to give them a base from which they could erroneous-legitimately start building pseudoscience with an edge for ethnocentrism.

Racism, as a term, is still valid in that it encompasses the negative feelings and actions of people who erroneously see race as a basis for discrimination of people.

[Diggles]

yes, there is. "race" can mean different things. Do you seriously correct someone when they say "the african american race?" you know precisely what they mean. stop being stupid.

of african american descent.

It does not mean they start with the racial passive of eating chicken faster than normal and getting extra regen from grape drank.

[pickled_heretic]

great, so skin pigment is passed down through genes, fucking amazing biology work there Einstein

your skin pigment determines your race in most situations. how more simple can it get? there are cultural connotations that are constructed and placed upon you by society based on this information. that doesn't make them any less real.

[loopholbrook]

I find that pretty generally, black parents tend to have black children. just one example i can think of.

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/71037_337036525927_1738805_n.jpg

This guy's parents had darker skin, but he doesn't. I also don't think that his parent's had black skin. I've never seen ANYONE with black skin.

[Diggles]

so you mean i can call everyone with a widows peak their own race? Everyone with a hitchhiker's thumb? Shut the fuck up

[Hasbinbad]

Perpetuation of the race myth is actually more racist than using epithets.

[pickled_heretic]

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/71037_337036525927_1738805_n.jpg

This guy's parents had darker skin, but he doesn't. I also don't think that his parent's had black skin. I've never seen ANYONE with black skin.

I find that pretty generally, black parents tend to have black children. just one example i can think of.
pretty generally
pretty generally
pretty generally

[pickled_heretic]

so you mean i can call everyone with a widows peak their own race? Everyone with a hitchhiker's thumb? Shut the fuck up

if there's any kind of racial cultural connotation that goes with those traits, then there is almost certainly some element of race there. i can't think of any offhand.

[Diggles]

OH MY GOD YOU ARE RETARDED

SUCCESSFUL TROLL

GOING TO GO CRY TO MY BIOLOGY TEACHER ABOUT HOW RETARDED YOU ARE.

[Hasbinbad]

What is a black person? Anyone with a skin color beyond X shade of brown? What about Australian Aborigines? Is it ok to classify them as the same as someone from Somalia because their skin tone is the same?

What about the indigenous Indians in South America? Is it OK to lump them with the Africans and Aborigines because they are "AT LEAST THIS DARK?"

What about if you flip the coin? Am I (Irish ethnicity) the same as someone from eastern Europe simply because my skin tone is similar? Fuck you.

Race doesn't exist, perpetuation of that myth is racism.

[pickled_heretic]

i am really boggling here. what you're saying is that genetically heritable skin tone differences are real, but social constructions that are placed upon people with different skin colors does not exist.

is that right?

[Diggles]

http://i.imgur.com/5eofZ.png

[Hasbinbad]

i am really boggling here. what you're saying is that genetically heritable skin tone differences are real, but social constructions that are placed upon people with different skin colors does not exist.

is that right?
Don't use $5 college words you don't understand gimp.

Anyone who was actually educated enough to use "genetically heritible" with proper understanding of what that phrase means would know that race is a myth and a misnomer created by ethnocentric assholes.

[to0p]

They closed this (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55354) thread.

The GMs not only ignored the coherent arguments presented by several members of the server, they actually closed the thread. Welcome to ProjectNazi99.

I agree with you Aruden, even though I dont play on BotNet99's servers when I had heard the GM's allowed a guild named Holocaust it causes even more reason for greater distance from this server or the people associated with creating it.

It is now clear that the GM staff has no integrity whatsoever by allowing a guild such as 'Holocaust' to exist.

It's okay though, there will eventually be more servers out there to play on ;)

[pickled_heretic]

Don't use $5 college words you don't understand gimp.

Anyone who was actually educated enough to use "genetically heritible" with proper understanding of what that phrase means would know that race is a myth and a misnomer created by ethnocentric assholes.

sigh... let's take this slow.

1. genetically heritable skin tone differences exist.

2. society places constructions based on those genetically heritable skin tone differences on everyone.

is there anything you see in those two phrases that you disagree with?

[Diggles]

I agree with you Aruden, even though I dont play on BotNet99's servers when I had heard the GM's allowed a guild named Holocaust it causes even more reason for greater distance from this server or the people associated with creating it.

It is now clear that the GM staff has no integrity whatsoever by allowing a guild such as 'Holocaust' to exist.

It's okay though, there will eventually be more servers out there to play on ;)

You made a guild named Peace Pipe. Weed offends me, yet the name remains unchanged. You are a fucking cocksucker for offending me, you little bitch fuck you faggot you're going to have my fucking kids

[Diggles]

http://i.imgur.com/5eofZ.png

[Hasbinbad]

sigh... let's take this slow.

1. Latent genes for those skin tones exist in every person, and are expressed more or less over time based on environment (adaptation). You have the same genes in your cells that someone of a different race has in theirs, with the difference accounted for in expression.

2. Society is largely uneducated, and often place constructions on things that don't exist.

is there anything you see in those two phrases that you disagree with?

[to0p]

It is now clear that the GM staff has no integrity whatsoever by allowing a guild such as 'Holocaust' to exist.

[Hasbinbad]

Guys stop spamming and let me WTFPWN this gimp in peace.

[loopholbrook]

Wait, I'm confused now, what defines race? This is something that I'm unfamiliar with.

[to0p]

no integrity whatsoever

[Diggles]

It is now clear that the GM staff has no integrity whatsoever by allowing a guild such as 'Holocaust' to exist.
go away cheater

[to0p]

go away cheater

no integrity

[Hasbinbad]

Wait, I'm confused now, what defines race? This is something that I'm unfamiliar with.
That is my point, there is no such thing. Race is a myth.

Racism is real, it is prejudice coming from people who believe race is a real thing.

[to0p]

Soon new horizons will be available for players who dont want to deal with people like Diggles!

Again, allowing Diggles to post the garbage he does, and for a guild named Holocaust to exist...

GM STAFF HAS NO INTEGRITY

[Hasbinbad]

To0p stop shitting up this thread with your jibber jabber. Go make a new thread to shit up.

[to0p]

To0p stop shitting up this thread with your jibber jabber. Go make a new thread to shit up.

NO INTEGRITY

[pickled_heretic]

sigh... let's take this slow.

1. Latent genes for those skin tones exist in every person, and are expressed more or less over time based on environment (adaptation). You have the same genes in your cells that someone of a different race has in theirs, with the difference accounted for in expression.

2. Society is largely uneducated, and often place constructions on things that don't exist.

is there anything you see in those two phrases that you disagree with?
there's really nothing latent about skin tone. it would take tens of thousands of years of constant external pressure for a group of exclusively black people to evolve white skin. and at the end they would probably be more genetically dissimilar to fair-skinned in existence now than they are now.

otherwise yes, i agree.

[to0p]

I agree with you Aruden, even though I dont play on BotNet99's servers when I had heard the GM's allowed a guild named Holocaust it causes even more reason for greater distance from this server or the people associated with creating it.

It is now clear that the GM staff has no integrity whatsoever by allowing a guild such as 'Holocaust' to exist.

It's okay though, there will eventually be more servers out there to play on ;)

[Diggles]

toop's just angry he hit the bee hive and then lost everything

[pickled_heretic]

Wait, I'm confused now, what defines race? This is something that I'm unfamiliar with.

www.dictionary.com is a great place to start. look for the first noun entry.

[to0p]

toop's just angry he hit the bee hive and then lost everything

NO INTEGRITY

[Hasbinbad]

I don't think you understand what latent means.

I don't think you understand what gene expression means.

I don't think you understand what "latent genes which have not expressed" means.

[Hasbinbad]

www.dictionary.com (http://www.dictionary.com) is a great place to start. look for the first noun entry.
Now back that up with science instead of colloquialism.

[Szeth]

ITT

Toop: recruiting the angry jewish playerbase of r99 for his new server.

It will be a glorious server with stoners and angry jews.

[to0p]

I agree with you Aruden, even though I dont play on BotNet99's servers when I had heard the GM's allowed a guild named Holocaust it causes even more reason for greater distance from this server or the people associated with creating it.

It is now clear that the GM staff has no integrity whatsoever by allowing a guild such as 'Holocaust' to exist.

It's okay though, there will eventually be more classic servers out there to play on :cool:

[Hasbinbad]

Now back that up with science instead of colloquialism.
OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T, BECAUSE NO BIOLOGICAL BASIS FOR RACE EXISTS.

[Diggles]

lets stone the angry jews

[to0p]

ITT

Toop: recruiting the angry jewish playerbase of r99 for his new server.

It will be a glorious server with stoners and angry jews.

I have a new server?

Where?

Proof plz...

[pickled_heretic]

I don't think you understand what latent means.

I don't think you understand what gene expression means.

I don't think you understand what "latent genes which have not expressed" means.

a black person does not have latent genes for the white race. he would have to evolve new ones. it makes absolutely no sense that black people would have latent white genes, from an evolutionary perspective. it would make more sense to assume the reverse.

[Szeth]

Yea, I figure it is vaporware too...

[Diggles]

I used ShowEQ to help me build my own server: The Sleeper-Progression, so that people could have another place to play.

I have never used it on P99 nor I have I used downloaded or every come into contact with macroquest.

Maybe I am banned because it was detected while I played on both servers at once?

Unfortunate.

[loopholbrook]

www.dictionary.com is a great place to start. look for the first noun entry.

The first noun entry of race.

Race- a contest of speed, as in running, riding, driving, or sailing.

What does a guild name Holocaust have anything to do with that?

[to0p]

Proof of the existence of such a server plz.....

[Szeth]

Boom, Diggles my new e-hero.

[Diggles]

race is a verb

[mitic]

just change the L to an M of holocaust and everyone will be happy again

[Szeth]

Then holocaust would have a real reason to hate the jews.

[pickled_heretic]

race: noun
1.
a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.

really now? are we arguing whether or not this is a valid definition at all?

[Diggles]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NFjuYNV4JQY/TWWZycZKbTI/AAAAAAAAAEI/01q0lzhA5yE/s1600/amazing+race.jpg
RACING TELEVISION SHOW OR ARIAN PROPAGANDA?


YOU DECIDE.

[loopholbrook]

race: noun
1.
a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.

really now? are we arguing whether or not this is a valid definition at all?

I just followed your instructions. Don't get all butt hurt because you were wrong.

But according to that definition, wouldn't we all be the same race considering that the world had to start with just one person?

[loopholbrook]

Diggles, you just got screenshotted my friend. Great job!

[Diggles]

I just followed your instructions. Don't get all butt hurt because you were wrong.

But according to that definition, wouldn't we all be the same race considering that the world had to start with just one person?

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3057/3109754470_103087ed73.jpg

[pickled_heretic]

how am i butthurt? arguing that the usage of the word to distinguish people of different ethnicity doesn't exist is patently absurd. i'm actually pretty amused.

[Diggles]

http://memebase.referata.com/w/images/ಠ_ಠ.jpg

[pickled_heretic]

i'll take the image spam as a concession of defeat, thank you for the thoroughly enjoyable discourse.

[loopholbrook]

i'll take the image spam as a concession of defeat, thank you for the thoroughly enjoyable discourse.

I'll take this post spam as a concession of defeat, thank you for the thoroughly enjoyable discourse.

[Hasbinbad]

a black person does not have latent genes for the white race. he would have to evolve new ones. it makes absolutely no sense that black people would have latent white genes, from an evolutionary perspective. it would make more sense to assume the reverse.
Over time adaptation took place to increase or decrease the amount of melanin production by skin cells, which shield the organelles of the cell from UV radiation, preventing skin cancer. This takes energy to accomplish, and is only done if needed.

In climates where there is more UV radiation (sunny), over time, those with more expression calls in the structure of their DNA survive and thrive, changing the skin tone of the group to be darker over time.

Conversely, in climates where UV radiation isn't a problem, individuals with less expression calls for melanin in their DNA do just as well, and because of that the DNA of the group is less concentrated towards melanin production as a whole, lightening skin over time.

The genes, however, are still there.

Proof is something called a sun tan.

Also proof is that there is more genetic disparity within so-called "racial groups" than there is between them.

Also, lol at your "it would take tens of thousands of years for blah blah blah" Of course it would. Just.. LOL.

Fuck off ya mentally shrewish lout.

[pickled_heretic]

I'll take this post spam as a concession of defeat, thank you for the thoroughly enjoyable discourse.

the fact that any definition at all exists in the dictionary is all the proof that i need that race (e.g. the concept of race as a means of distinguishing people based on genetically heritable appearances such as ethnicity) exists. we should really find something more constructive to talk about, like whether or not these concepts are valid.

[Hasbinbad]

pickled_heretic confirmed to be the worst racist in this community.

[Daldolma]

HBB, you're incorrect about whether there is a genetic basis for race. The idea that there is no genetic basis for race is an outdated concept with roots in fear of racism. There clearly is genetic basis for race. That's not to say that there's a "Black gene" or a "White gene" or an "Asian gene", but there are sets of genetic expressions that lend themselves to peoples of a certain ancestry -- read: race -- more than others.

The most significant genetic differences are between Eurasian, African, and East Asian peoples. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/21/AR2009062101726_2.html?wprss=rss_nation&sid=ST2009062200350

Yet it's still possible to find genetic nuance within those populations. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/science/13visual.html?_r=3&ref=science&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

[pickled_heretic]

pickled_heretic confirmed to be the worst racist in this community.

the only thing that can beat being called a racist:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/746/fiftyhitlerho6.jpg

[Truth]

you know who else was for censorship (ie book burnings)?

ARUDEN = HITLER

[Aruden]

I fucking hate everyone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRO3RJ9cYSo&noredirect=1

[Aruden]

Diggles, when I first started posting on this forum, I could not stand you. The more I post the more I see that you're one of the few that gets its.

Get a room.

[Diggles]

can't it's full of showerheads

[Aruden]

can't it's full of showerheads

Neck-beard never bathes.

[Truth]

i wouldnt want to bathe in zyklon B either

[Aruden]

Truth only bathes in Diggle's urine.

[Truth]

Wouldn't bathe in that either

http://www.mulberry-inn.com/images/gallery/D/bridal_3.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

HBB, you're incorrect about whether there is a genetic basis for race. The idea that there is no genetic basis for race is an outdated concept with roots in fear of racism. There clearly is genetic basis for race. That's not to say that there's a "Black gene" or a "White gene" or an "Asian gene", but there are sets of genetic expressions that lend themselves to peoples of a certain ancestry -- read: race -- more than others.

The most significant genetic differences are between Eurasian, African, and East Asian peoples. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/21/AR2009062101726_2.html?wprss=rss_nation&sid=ST2009062200350

Yet it's still possible to find genetic nuance within those populations. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/science/13visual.html?_r=3&ref=science&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
You're confusing ethnicity with race. "Race" is based on external physical characteristics, primarily skin tone (ex. "whites," "blacks."). It is common knowledge that there is more genetic variation within these arbitrarily assigned groups than when you compare any ethnic group with another.

For an example, I will use arbitrary numbers to illustrate:

When you compare 100 people of Irish Gaelic ethnicity to 100 people of Japanese ethnicity, you find 1,000 genetic markers (usually viral) difference.

When you compare 100 people who are "black" to another 100 people who are "black," you find 2,000 genetic markers (usually viral) difference.

This is because people who are "black" can be from many ethnic groups: various african ethnicities, various central and south american ethnicities, various asian and pacific islander ethnicities may also have the characteristics of "black." Similarly, people who are "white" may be from spain, norway, belarus, etc., all with a high amount of variation between groups.

Ergo, classifying people on the basis of skin color or other external traits is purely subjective, and without any scientific basis.

[Hasbinbad]

Come at me bro.

[ColdFritter]

http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/demotivational-posters-come-at-me-bro1.jpg

[pickled_heretic]

"Race" is based on external physical characteristics, primarily skin tone (ex. "whites," "blacks.").

Ergo, classifying people on the basis of skin color or other external traits is purely subjective, and without any scientific basis.

These two statements are mutually exclusive. Either race can be based on external physical characteristics (an empirical fact) or it cannot (purely subjective).

Thanks for coming everyone

[pickled_heretic]

By the way, that was a great example of a non sequitur. you are really quite good at this!

[ColdFritter]

pickled_heretic confirmed racist

[pickled_heretic]

pickled_heretic confirmed racist

http://troll.me/images/sad-frog/this-is-my-sad-face.jpg

[ColdFritter]

jeez you give up so easily. I bet you're a bad lay.

[Daldolma]

You're confusing ethnicity with race. "Race" is based on external physical characteristics, primarily skin tone (ex. "whites," "blacks."). It is common knowledge that there is more genetic variation within these arbitrarily assigned groups than when you compare any ethnic group with another.

For an example, I will use arbitrary numbers to illustrate:

When you compare 100 people of Irish Gaelic ethnicity to 100 people of Japanese ethnicity, you find 1,000 genetic markers (usually viral) difference.

When you compare 100 people who are "black" to another 100 people who are "black," you find 2,000 genetic markers (usually viral) difference.

This is because people who are "black" can be from many ethnic groups: various african ethnicities, various central and south american ethnicities, various asian and pacific islander ethnicities may also have the characteristics of "black." Similarly, people who are "white" may be from spain, norway, belarus, etc., all with a high amount of variation between groups.

Ergo, classifying people on the basis of skin color or other external traits is purely subjective, and without any scientific basis.

No, I'm not. Ethnicity is something else entirely. I'm talking about race -- the genetic differentiation of populations with different regional ancestries. I've posted the links already -- you're free to peruse them. Since you are refusing to accept the legitimate source that you asked for, I'll quote:

"All of Earth's people, according to a new analysis of the genomes of 53 populations, fall into just three genetic groups. They are the products of the first and most important journey our species made -- the walk out of Africa about 70,000 years ago by a small fraction of ancestral Homo sapiens. One group is the African. It contains the descendants of the original humans who emerged in East Africa about 200,000 years ago. The second is the Eurasian, encompassing the natives of Europe, the Middle East and Southwest Asia (east to about Pakistan). The third is the East Asian, the inhabitants of Asia, Japan and Southeast Asia, and -- thanks to the Bering Land Bridge and island-hopping in the South Pacific -- of the Americas and Oceania as well."

That is race, not ethnicity. The other link I posted shows how genetic nuance can be found within these populations. I'll provide another quote.

"The genetic map of Europe bears a clear structural similarity to the geographic map. The major genetic differences are between populations of the north and south (the vertical axis of the map shows north-south differences, the horizontal axis those of east-west). The area assigned to each population reflects the amount of genetic variation in it."

Now, if you choose to use poor racial constructs (ie: White, Black, Asian), then sure: you leave yourself susceptible to uneven results. But if you understand that there are three major subgroups (Eurasian, African, East Asian), and that each subgroup can be broken into smaller "races", then there is clearly a genetic basis for race. A black person from Africa is likely part of a different, identifiable genetic pool than a white person from Germany. An Italian, even, is likely part of a different, identifiable genetic pool than a white person from Finland. Whether or not you choose to identify "Italian" as a race is subjective and, basically, irrelevant. The fact is that, by any accepted definition of race, Italians (as a whole) would be genetically separate from Finns.

There are many genetic bases for race. The fact is that much of the world is lazy with their racial descriptions. White is not a race, we agree. But that doesn't mean that there are no races. Your problem seems to be with lazy racial categorization.

[ColdFritter]

What's so bad about racing anyways?

[Hasbinbad]

Pseudoscience is pseudo.

[Odonk]

even pickled-heretics character name has troll in it... metatroll

[pickled_heretic]

"Race" is based on external physical characteristics, primarily skin tone (ex. "whites," "blacks.").

[Aruden]

gms are racist

[Truth]

No you're just choosing to be ignorant

[Truth]

which is defined as stupid

[Uthgaard]

Your bitching and whining is important to absolutely no one but yourself. Please take a moment to fill out this survey to relate your failed experiences with pissing and moaning.

Check all that apply.
You're still whining like a toddler because:
[ ] You mistakenly think that your opinion is a fact
[ ] You can't function in any other capacity if you didn't get the last word
[ ] It's the only way you can provoke anyone to speak to you
[ ] Crying incessantly worked on mommy, especially after daddy left her for the pool boy

[pickled_heretic]

back for some more grammar nazi self ownage, uthgaard?

[purest]

pickled heretic/op (same person) is mentally unstable, just ip ban them so he can move on with his life

[pickled_heretic]

pickled heretic/op (same person) is mentally unstable, just ip ban them so he can move on with his life

Wehrmacht Wehrmacht Wehrmacht

[pickled_heretic]

I would never accuse the gms of racism unless they actually did something racist, so i don't really stand behind aruden here... but if uthgaard is going to show up for some more lolz i will definitely participate.

[Tanx]

why dont you just make a guild, by your dictionary logic, named <'Coon Killers> or <Faggot Burners>...... and i mean the mammals and piles of sticks, of course.

quit cryin.

[Rhaj]

Wehrmacht = All German armed forces in WW2. (Nazi membership not required)

Waffen-SS = Actual Nazi's


I am not sure why people keep throwing out Wehrmacht as an embodiment of evil.

Waffen-SS would more fit that description if that is what people were looking for.

[Diggles]

Wehrmacht is a person, we're not talking about the military force.

[Rhaj]

Ahh, I missed that. My bad.

[loopholbrook]

Ahh, I missed that. My bad.

Rhaj? More like garage! You've been hazed.

[Hoggen]

Rename the character Ballocaust and be done with it.

[Sirbanmelotz]

shut up you fucking pussy eat dick

[Barahir]

yes, there is. "race" can mean different things. Do you seriously correct someone when they say "the african american race?" you know precisely what they mean. stop being stupid.

Well I would know they were an idiot. If I was feeling extra dickish I'd call them out for being an idiot. You've gone on and on about genetics and etc, but you say "african american race" Yeah umm black people in the US is what you mean. Genetically you are standing on pretty weak ground with that.

All of the pwning that Hasbin has done of you it is really a shame he missed that.

[Hasbinbad]

One can only do what one can do.

[pickled_heretic]

You've gone on and on about genetics and etc, but you say "african american race" Yeah umm black people in the US is what you mean

Yes, that's precisely what is meant. it's a lot more succinct to say "african american race" than it is to say "group of black people who live in and/or have ancestors who lived in the US." If the meaning has been conveyed, then the word has fulfilled its purpose - regardless of whether or not you think it's idiotic.

[Hasbinbad]

The problem is when the meanings of words have different connotations than intended, or conversely when meanings are implied via certain choice of words or style of writing.

English is a wonderful language in that sense. But one must guard against intellectual laziness: either mean what you say, or say what you mean, or both. Only bad people and intellectual sloths use insufficiently specific language or subterfuge when involved in a serious conversation. You sir, are guilty of at least one of these offenses.

[pickled_heretic]

You sir, are guilty of at least one of these offenses.

This is a thesis. Supporting evidence follows. Here, I'll give you some scratch paper:


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[Barahir]

Yes, that's precisely what is meant. it's a lot more succinct to say "african american race" than it is to say "group of black people who live in and/or have ancestors who lived in the US." If the meaning has been conveyed, then the word has fulfilled its purpose - regardless of whether or not you think it's idiotic.

Okay how are black people in the US genetically different than black people from other places?

[pickled_heretic]

Okay how are black people in the US genetically different than black people from other places?

Irrelevant. Nobody said that race was exclusively determined by genetics. On the other hand, I have yet to encounter any white African Americans.

[Amelinda]

Irrelevant. Nobody said that race was exclusively determined by genetics. On the other hand, I have yet to encounter any white African Americans.

I had a friend who was white and from south africa. She became an american citizen so then would she not be a white african american? right?

this whole thread is pretty dumb anyway. just as an aside.

[Brad_mo123]

The name you refer to doesnt bother me as I really am not decided on my religion but my surname got changed in the past that was "Boobjob" on Giganto. If Boobjob is more offensive then this... I just dont know what the hell is going on in your heads.

[pickled_heretic]

I had a friend who was white and from south africa. She became an american citizen so then would she not be a white african american? right?

No. "African American" implies ancestry from native sub-Saharan Africa. There have been a few cases of people who were not black attempting to claim African American status for one reason or another and they have been essentially uniformly rejected.

this whole thread is pretty dumb anyway. just as an aside.
Says the racist GM. (I'm not serious plz don't taze me bros)

[Brad_mo123]

The name you refer to doesnt bother me as I really am not decided on my religion but my surname got changed in the past that was "Boobjob" on Giganto. If Boobjob is more offensive then this... I just dont know what the hell is going on in your heads.

THe guide who changed my name btw I nick named Assimon because he was an ass and his name was some digimon sounding name. I think Uthgaard remembers the time :p.

[Amelinda]

Says the racist GM. (I'm not serious plz don't taze me bros)

i'm glad you put that you were kidding. i wouldn't have known with you. i know you don't like me.

Personally. my gr-gr-gr-grandfather was black. but that's a very small percentage of non-white blood. Most people who know me would probably think i was teasing them if i told them about my grandfather.

I make no claims about my heritage. It is what it is - genealogy and records can show me who I come from but it's up to me to show the world what kind of person I am. Personally i don't identify with one race more than any other. I think we should stop segregating ourselves into different categories and just be people.

[Amelinda]

*and what kind of person you are is a fuck of a lot more important than the particular category that your ancestors came from.

[Stealin Dragons]

i'm like 1/10th native american.

Therefore, I am native american.

[Uthgaard]

THe guide who changed my name btw I nick named Assimon because he was an ass and his name was some digimon sounding name. I think Uthgaard remembers the time :p.

Yeah. He didn't think it was nearly as funny as I did.

Also rofl at all the idiots in this thread trying to argue genetics because they drew a punnet square once in high school.

[Barahir]

Irrelevant. Nobody said that race was exclusively determined by genetics. On the other hand, I have yet to encounter any white African Americans.

Of course you haven't because your definition boils down to black people. Seriously you make something up (or rather you follow along with something other people have made up) and draw the lines and then try to act like something that is outside of the lines you've drawn, supports your own assumptions. Srsly you might as well have just said "Sports cars can only be red, I've never seen a sports car that wasn't red"

[pickled_heretic]

Also rofl at all the idiots in this thread trying to argue genetics because they drew a punnet square once in high school.

How lazy. You could have at least quoted something out of context.

[Barahir]

I had a friend who was white and from south africa. She became an american citizen so then would she not be a white african american? right?

this whole thread is pretty dumb anyway. just as an aside.

No because "african americans" can only be black, anyone who is not black and from africa living in the united states is not "african american".... yeah

[pickled_heretic]

(or rather you follow along with something other people have made up)

Guess what? that's what language is. All of the words you're using were made up by other people! *GASP*

There's a genetic component to race because that's what the word means. pretending it doesn't exist won't cause it to go away and won't cause people to stop using it. If anything, attempts to consciously and deliberately eliminate words from common vernacular have been uniformly and utterly met with complete failure. (ex. "******")

[pickled_heretic]

i'm glad you put that you were kidding. i wouldn't have known with you. i know you don't like me.

Personally. my gr-gr-gr-grandfather was black. but that's a very small percentage of non-white blood. Most people who know me would probably think i was teasing them if i told them about my grandfather.

I make no claims about my heritage. It is what it is - genealogy and records can show me who I come from but it's up to me to show the world what kind of person I am. Personally i don't identify with one race more than any other. I think we should stop segregating ourselves into different categories and just be people.

I'm adopted, and I have no idea what my heritage is. I also don't care to find out. I have less of a stake in this than anyone else. The only thing I care about is people being crucified for speaking frankly about race and genetics. Being called a racist for stating that skin tone is genetically heritable is probably the most ludicrous thing I've heard in recent memory, but that's precisely what is occurring here.

[Barahir]

Guess what? that's what language is. All of the words you're using were made up by other people! *GASP*

There's a genetic component to race because that's what the word means. pretending it doesn't exist won't cause it to go away and won't cause people to stop using it. If anything, attempts to consciously and deliberately eliminate words from common vernacular have been uniformly and utterly met with complete failure. (ex. "******")

Lol once again you go back to how it is in fact a social construct, and then imply genetic differences without actually saying anything about genetics.

By the way nice attempt at trying to dodge how your entire position is based on intellectual shallowness. Don't even try to dress it up all nice for the party.

[pickled_heretic]

Lol once again you go back to how it is in fact a social construct, and then imply genetic differences without actually saying anything about genetics.

By the way nice attempt at trying to dodge how your entire position is based on intellectual shallowness. Don't even try to dress it up all nice for the party.

Your skin tone is not a social construct.

[Uthgaard]

Genetic component? I'm curious what you think the non-genetic component of race is. Hint: There isn't one.

[pickled_heretic]

Genetic component? I'm curious what you think the non-genetic component of race is.

Geography.

[Diggles]

so since I live in alaska i'm a native alaskan then right?

[Barahir]

Your skin tone is not a social construct.


So very pale people are racially different from very tan people? Light dark skinned people are racially different from very dark skinned people?

[Uthgaard]

Geography.

Lol. So a wild type black male that moves back to Africa will be racially different than when he was living in Cincinnati? Awesome comprehension.

[pickled_heretic]

So very pale people are racially different from very tan people? Light dark skinned people are racially different from very dark skinned people?

Dark skinned people are very frequently racially different from fair skinned people. What is your point?

[Uthgaard]

Silence. Your superiors are speaking.

[Barahir]

Dark skinned people are very frequently racially different from fair skinned people. What is your point?

Don't dodge it shows weakness. If you don't understand the question that is being asked you can ask for clarification but don't avoid it on purpose.

[Barahir]

Lol. So a wild type black male that moves back to Africa will be racially different than when he was living in Cincinnati? Awesome comprehension.

He might actually be able to play for a good football team then, that has fans..

[Stealin Dragons]

Lol. So a wild type black male that moves back to Africa will be racially different than when he was living in Cincinnati? Awesome comprehension.

lol @ wild type black male.

[pickled_heretic]

Lol. So a wild type black male that moves back to Africa will be racially different than when he was living in Cincinnati? Awesome comprehension.

Of course I'm not saying that. There's not a uniformly accepted list of races. Depending on who you ask, you may get anywhere from three to dozens. With that in mind, in modern dialogue, there are racial distinctions that run along social and geographic boundaries that don't strictly follow genetics. Is "African American" a race, or an ethnicity? You will find people that argue both. In either case, the term is strictly defined by both genetics and geography.

[Diggles]

http://codyrapol.com/~EvenStevens/I-WANT-YOU-TO-PLAY-MEDIC.jpg

[Amelinda]

Dark skinned people are very frequently racially different from fair skinned people. What is your point?

i think the above statement is inaccurate.

"there are some physical traits that seem to be expressed more frequently together than apart."

would be more accurate and i think that's what you are trying to say:

though. honestly...... i hold a bachelors degree in biology and have never heard of 'racially-linked genes'

OH Uthgaard? you heard of this?