Good, Up to Date Information on Occupy

[Hasbinbad]

Can be found here: http://glitchthemachine.tumblr.com/

[Diggles]

glitch <3

[Harrison]

No one cares.

[Cyrano]

Here's a post from some football forums I read about the DOW being up today:

Yeah, great. Central banks made it easier to borrow money despite the fact that the borrowers will probably not be in a good position to pay it back.

This means nothing and all it does is line the pockets of banks (some of which are up 6% today).

This is the scam that our financial system and the Fed and international banking systems run: create money out of thin air, buy up debt, put borrower into more debt, bet against the borrower, collect earnings.

Any of you who have not heard of Max Keiser should start listening. He'll explain in better detail how banks crash economies to make profit and how the Fed and American banks create money out of nowhere so they can pass it around to each other and gamble with it (then make more to replace it if they lose).

Politicians and banksters are rolling in cash; gambling and betting with it and printing more of it when they lose. They pay little to no taxes, buy up luxuries like it's their job, start wars to funnel money to military contractors and blow up the debt, THEN BLAME AMERICANS AND TELL THEM THEY'RE BEING FINANCIALLY IRRESPONSIBLE.

I mean, you cannot make this shit up.

By the way, this is the PRIMARY issue for OWS protesters. . It is this system that began this movement. This system, in which the government prints or takes tax payer money and gives it to banks at almost no interest, lets banks create complex, financial products and peddle them to Americans while they bet against them; this system where banks can defraud investors out of HUGE amounts of money, then simply settle by paying a fraction of the damages BACK to the government; this system that caused our financial collapse, gave money to banks to make sure they kept raking in profits (which they're doing now at record pace) and then TOLD AMERICANS TO GET READY FOR AUSTERITY AND EXPECT CUTS TO PROGRAMS INTO WHICH THEY F'ING PAID.

Those of you who rail against this financial terrorism but scoff at OWS are one of two things: stupid or dishonest. It'd be like someone agreeing that segregation should be repealed and blacks should be given equal rights, then insulting the civil rights movement in the same breath. It doesn't make sense and it proves you're not informed about OWS. Re-evaluate your position or continue to look stupid and impotent with childish insults about "hippies" and other, such non-sense; just a word of advice.

[Aadill]

words

I just threw my hands up in the air and did that stupid little finger wag for you.

[vaylorie]

Those of you who rail against this financial terrorism but scoff at OWS are one of two things: stupid or dishonest.

Alternatively, it could be that people agree with the OWS stance and share in the anger against financial problems and irresponsibility but refuse to support the methods that OWS chooses to employ to achieve it's goals.

Seriously... shut down ports, unlawfully camp out for months on end, shootings & rapes reported in the camps, blocking public roads and bridges, etc.

Also, this is a single tenant of OWS (primary or not) mixed with a tremendous number of reports varying wildly from redistribution to anti-capitalism and revolution. People need to resonate with this or they are stupid/dishonest? Get serious, this isn't as binary as you want to make it.

[purest]

shocker, only vaylorie was no-lifer + neckbearded enough to actually read the giant retard's giant wall of retarded text

[vaylorie]

shocker, only vaylorie was no-lifer + neckbearded enough to actually read the giant retard's giant wall of retarded text

purist = intellectual

[Truth]

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[Dfn]

I walk past OWS morons every day for work. Some days I converse with them, some days I ignore them. I think OWS-San Jose is a little out of touch with the rest of the movement though. In the past two weeks I've been told...

-this is a revolution that won't be privatized
-the private sector has failed to create jobs; the responsibility is now the government's to provide employment
-the government is all bought and cannot be trusted; they should be like nascar and wear their sponsors
-capitalism is evil
-government is evil
-banks are evil
-the private sector is evil

Bunch of idiots need to get their story straight.

[vaylorie]

I walk past OWS morons every day for work. Some days I converse with them, some days I ignore them. I think OWS-San Jose is a little out of touch with the rest of the movement though. In the past two weeks I've been told...

-this is a revolution that won't be privatized
-the private sector has failed to create jobs; the responsibility is now the government's to provide employment
-the government is all bought and cannot be trusted; they should be like nascar and wear their sponsors
-capitalism is evil
-government is evil
-banks are evil
-the private sector is evil

Bunch of idiots need to get their story straight.

[purest]

I walk past American morons every day for work. Some days I converse with them, some days I ignore them. I think Americans from the South are a little more inbred than the rest of Americans though. In the past two weeks I've been told...

- The currency of the UK is "Queen Elizabeth's"
- The religion of Israel is Catholic
- Buddhist Monks are Islamic
- We won the Vietnam war
- Fidel Castro is a singer
- A Triangle has 4 sides
- A Triangle has no sides
- Tony Blair is a skater

Bunch of idiots need to get their story straight.

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[Glitch]

glitch <3

:D :D

[Autotune]

ITT: Confirmed, people are stupid.

[Dfn]

I walk past American morons every day for work. Some days I converse with them, some days I ignore them. I think Americans from the South are a little more inbred than the rest of Americans though. In the past two weeks I've told...

Can't watch video at work... But I'm guessing you're one of the hippies raging against capitalism, America, banks, governemt, mom, dad, etc?

Anyone can walk down the streets of X location and ask questions until they get enough retarded answers to cut and paste into one clip. Bill Maher, Colbert, the Daily Show, etc - it happens all the time. Unfortunately, your fellow occupiers are braindead, mostly. They have an uncanny ability to be consistantly inconsistant in their beliefs, message, and advertisements.

The difference between my experience and your feeble attempt to discredit it is that reports across the country are similar to mine, citing wild inaccuracies, lies, and differences among and between OWS messages.

Hippies. This OWS mess is a cesspool of retardation.

[Autotune]

Can't watch video at work... But I'm guessing you're one of the hippies raging against capitalism, America, banks, governemt, mom, dad, etc?

Anyone can walk down the streets of X location and ask questions until they get enough retarded answers to cut and paste into one clip. Bill Maher, Colbert, the Daily Show, etc - it happens all the time. Unfortunately, your fellow occupiers are braindead, mostly. They have an uncanny ability to be consistantly inconsistant in their beliefs, message, and advertisements.

The difference between my experience and your feeble attempt to discredit it is that reports across the country are similar to mine, citing wild inaccuracies, lies, and differences among and between OWS messages.

Hippies. This OWS mess is a cesspool of retardation.

lol

[purest]

Anyone can walk down the streets of X location and ask questions until they get enough retarded answers to cut and paste into one clip.

whoa, are you saying that anyone w/a video camera can find the dumbest people in a crowd and use clips of them to generalize about a bigger group of people? and that was perhaps my entire point?

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[Autotune]

whoa, are you saying that anyone w/a video camera can find the dumbest people in a crowd and use clips of them to generalize about a bigger group of people? and that was perhaps my entire point?

ding ding genius burger detected

100p he doesn't realize how that relates to him.

[Dfn]

whoa, are you saying that anyone w/a video camera can find the dumbest people in a crowd and use clips of them to generalize about a bigger group of people? and that was perhaps my entire point?

ding ding genius burger detected

Yes. But, back to OWS, everone in the crowd is yelling something different. What good is a movement when it cannot even agree upon the problem?

So my little junior high debate teamer - how does your example of respondants to random questions apply? you might try to link the respondants in your example as members of the same movement, but I doubt its success. I eagerly await your response.

[azeth]

ding ding genius burger detected

how much pesos por les genius burger

[Hasbinbad]

-capitalism is evil
-government is evil
-banks are evil
-the private sector is evil

Bunch of idiots need to get their story straight.
Let me ask you one question:

What prevents all of the above from being true?

They are in cahoots.

I don't know if I can make this any easier for you:

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[Hasbinbad]

Also, if you don't watch all of that, goto 1:50 on video one, and wait for it..

WAIT FOR IT..

[Autotune]

Also, if you don't watch all of that, goto 1:50 on video one, and wait for it..

WAIT FOR IT..

the Nazis leveled up off grinding Jews?

[Hasbinbad]

The sound..

???

[Hasbinbad]

oh derp.. nm me.. no its not the ding sound it's the quest completed sound

[vaylorie]

This explains a lot about Hasbinbad.... Chomsky hah.. you talking about a guy that believes that capitalism is fundamentally unjust and that revolution is the only way. He gets a couple things right but his work is filled with misrepresentation of quotes and events and is consistently proven unreliable. Oh, and if you disagree with him, no problem, you are just brainwashed... Sounds all too familiar from talking to you the past couple weeks HBB.

Now I see where you get all of your 'facts' from. This drivel is essentially what every one of Hasbinbad's posts consist of. Don't be so narrow and do a little research to vet out what guys like this say. Context.

[Autotune]

oh derp.. nm me.. no its not the ding sound it's the quest completed sound

oh, it's been awhile since i've played EQ with sound.

[Hasbinbad]

Kind of pop rock music, but the video is great.
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[Hasbinbad]

Pickles why are you not posting that Youtube here?

[Doors]

Personally I blame the jews.

[Aadill]

whoops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N1g3Xps68g

I think the best part were Stumpf's response.. he never directly answered a question.

At one point he was asked, "who is held accountable for the issues such as Wachovia's bad decision making?" in reference to the recent NCUA suits (Wachovia was bought by Wells Fargo). He said, "Me, the buck stops here." .... so I guess he's.. going to handle it? I mean he has only been there a year so I don't fault him for all of the problems but, eh.. he stepped into the job, right? That same level of personal responsibility that so many people tout as being super important.

The best part is that the Indoctrinated suits up near the front gave Stumpf lipservice and started clapping to drown out the end of the mic check.

speech is on the youtube page but i'll post it here as well:

Mic Check!
Mic Check!
John Stumpf
We won't take your home
but we will take a minute of your time.
Your leadership has led to
the death of the American Dream.

Wells Fargo is guilty
of widespread predatory lending
And holds over 5.7 billion in student debt.

Wells Fargo targets people of color
And the poor for high interest student loans,
urging loan officers to misreport income and forge documents.

Wells Fargo foreclosed
On hundreds of thousands of homes last year,
Many of them illegally.

Wells Fargo has been fined
85 Million dollars for its crimes,
You have issued no admission
Of guilt or apology.

Wells Fargo took 25 billion
In taxpayer dollars,
The larges bailout in bank history,
Yet reaped 4.1 billion last year
While paying no federal income tax.

You yourself made 19 million last year
Making you the highest paid bank CEO in America.

Furthermore
you invested nearly 100 million dollars
In racist for-profit prisons
While lobbying for harsher anti-immigrant legislation.

You are what is wrong with the culture of Wall Street.

A culture that values corporations
More than rights of "people" with hearts and minds.
A culture that buys politicians
And corrupts our democracy.

A culture that exploits the dreams
Of working class and middle class Americans.
For the benefit of the 1 percent.

John Stumpf
Have you no shame?

[Autotune]

whoops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N1g3Xps68g

I think the best part were Stumpf's response.. he never directly answered a question.

At one point he was asked, "who is held accountable for the issues such as Wachovia's bad decision making?" in reference to the recent NCUA suits (Wachovia was bought by Wells Fargo). He said, "Me, the buck stops here." .... so I guess he's.. going to handle it? I mean he has only been there a year so I don't fault him for all of the problems but, eh.. he stepped into the job, right? That same level of personal responsibility that so many people tout as being super important.

The best part is that the Indoctrinated suits up near the front gave Stumpf lipservice and started clapping to drown out the end of the mic check.

speech is on the youtube page but i'll post it here as well:

video was Tb;dw and chat was tl;dr