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Rogean
04-09-2010, 06:12 PM
We are aiming to have the server online by April 16th. This is provided all goes as planned with the server arriving and being racked and setup in our new data center without any issues. Date subject to change.

Update 1, April 12th
We're still on track to be up Friday, again as long as everything goes as planned with the setup and configuration of the server at the data center.

Additionally, we will be having a bonus XP week for 1 Week after the server comes back up. All exp gained from kills will be increased 25%.

Update 2, April 14th
Due to the data center being out of stock on equipment needed to rack the server, the server may not be up on Friday. It's about a 50/50 chance the server will even be up on Friday, at which point I doubt it will be in the configuration I need it to be for the network setup which will require additional coordination with the data center. At this point, it is a best case scenario is it will be up by Midnight Friday, but more likely Monday or Tuesday.

Update 3
Data center said the server will be up by the end of their business day with all the configurations I need, so if this is the case, the server will be up sometime tonight.

Bones
04-09-2010, 06:13 PM
We are aiming to have the server online by April 16th. This is provided all goes as planned with the server arriving and being racked and setup in our new data center without any issues. Date subject to change.

Good News!

Too bad ill be watching Kick-Ass that night :(

Ostehaps
04-09-2010, 06:13 PM
:D can't wait.. great job guys :D

Crone
04-09-2010, 06:14 PM
As celebration you are putting Guise masks back in the game for a week, right? ;)

Isphet
04-09-2010, 06:16 PM
Not as early as we had hoped, but it's nice to see an actual target date!

This whole thing only really punishes the players that enjoy the server, not the person running it. You should probably thank the attacker for giving you a week off from watching the server and also increasing the donations to the server.

He's done more good than harm to the person he was trying to "get at." Aint that how life works though?

Rogean
04-09-2010, 06:21 PM
Isphet, while partially true, we set out to run a server for people to enjoy, and to see that server in this condition, with everyone upset (even if not upset at us) still provides for a stressed environment :P

isitatomic
04-09-2010, 06:30 PM
Thanks for throwing us all an ETA-shaped bone -- now I've got about a week to inform old EQ friends about the server.

Why didn't I do that earlier? Umm.... so I was playing this game....

Sono_hito
04-09-2010, 06:38 PM
Yay! Ive been working on getting more people to join in. Ive got 4 co-workers that are ready to join up when it comes in. Great work dude!

Zordana
04-09-2010, 06:38 PM
We are aiming to have the server online by April 16th. This is provided all goes as planned with the server arriving and being racked and setup in our new data center without any issues. Date subject to change.

me lub u long time!!!

Gorgetrapper
04-09-2010, 06:41 PM
Great fucking news! Server being down has pretty much just given me more time to sleep, both which are great things.

gambetto
04-09-2010, 06:45 PM
can't wait for the server to return!

jettoki
04-09-2010, 07:08 PM
Thanks for working to get the server back up, Rog!

zel
04-09-2010, 07:10 PM
/cheer

Nial
04-09-2010, 07:13 PM
Woot! Can't wait.

Maximus
04-09-2010, 07:29 PM
Woot. you guys rock!
I know you don't hear it enough, but the people of p1999 thank you heartedly.

Mythoxxus

mudvayne1812
04-09-2010, 07:33 PM
Nice, Viva la Rogean!

w1ngz
04-09-2010, 07:38 PM
/cheer

Elissa
04-09-2010, 07:40 PM
Looking forward to the return as much as I've looked forward to any recent games... unfortunately the way my life works at the moment weekends are my worst time to play believe it or not. :( I won't be able to get on until the 19th! Argh! Still, great news. Thanks for keeping us updated.

Kaleb
04-09-2010, 07:41 PM
Wish it was a faster up date but that's only because I am a selfish ass.

Thanks for the ETA and thanks for all the hard work and stress you have had to deal with over the past week.

Cheers,

Atennu
04-09-2010, 07:44 PM
The worst thing about knowing when the server is coming back up is doing a countdown in my mind. Going to make this next week seem to last forever :rolleyes:

hilikus010
04-09-2010, 07:48 PM
sweet. Hopefully well be up and running by that date (i.e. everything goes smoothly). I tried to satisfy my EQ fix by playing some PEQ, then it crashed. back to MW2... haha

thanks for the work guys.

Zordana
04-09-2010, 07:53 PM
dont try Loki guys.. the developers should get smacked 24/7 for this! the concept is pretty nice, but its soooo friggn buggy and.. i need EQ back :( no no, i need P1999 back!

Belenos
04-09-2010, 07:55 PM
We are aiming to have the server online by April 16th. This is provided all goes as planned with the server arriving and being racked and setup in our new data center without any issues. Date subject to change.

/cheer

Andriea
04-09-2010, 08:04 PM
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

Bentheb
04-09-2010, 08:13 PM
We should get a double exp weekend for all this down time!!!!!!!

/DUCK

(THIS IS A JOKE go read the sony boards after even 15 secs of down time and there are 1000 people posting for a 2x exp weekend)

Aarone
04-09-2010, 08:15 PM
Hooray! Thanks Rogean, and the rest of the P99 crew, for all you guys do and put up with!

Kanor
04-09-2010, 08:17 PM
As celebration you are putting Guise masks back in the game for a week, right? ;)

YES do this !

Especially since it was removed too early for the eq timeline.

PLS Rogean redeem yourself and make some happy ogre/trolls.

Ravun
04-09-2010, 08:44 PM
redeem? bad choice of words =P

daren
04-09-2010, 08:45 PM
Thanks Rogean!

I've been waiting years to play EQ , I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate everything you've done.

Thanks Project 1999 developers!

Malrubius
04-09-2010, 08:54 PM
KICK ASS! Thanks for all the hard work!

Kennebec
04-09-2010, 09:14 PM
KICK ASS! Thanks for all the hard work!

I second that emotion. Thanks for the update!

mixxit
04-09-2010, 09:24 PM
HOT DAMN! YEssssssssssssss!

oldhead
04-09-2010, 09:36 PM
great news.

Hopefully what ever your have in store will help keep the attacker away.

I will be giving a healthy donation about 1 month after the server goes back up.

Zithax
04-09-2010, 09:54 PM
yay moar eq plz!

SejalTraurig
04-09-2010, 10:01 PM
Fan-Flippin-Tastic! This gives me a few days to try to get ahead on some homework before the full-immersion in Classic EQ begins!

Tudana
04-09-2010, 10:27 PM
Make it so #1

I took the week of 19-23 off for EQ Vacation, dont let me down!!

atvaata
04-09-2010, 10:43 PM
The worst thing about knowing when the server is coming back up is doing a countdown in my mind. Going to make this next week seem to last forever :rolleyes:

^ this.

Im debating taking next friday off already..

FIENDING FOR SOME EQ OMGZ

atvaata
04-09-2010, 10:45 PM
PLS Rogean redeem yourself and make some happy ogre/trolls.

Moar like Throgean should redeem his mighty hammer's position on your face..


And guise/rubi/manastone were taken out about the right time... Hell, they even left them in for like a week and a half...


Sorry you got here too late.

Tudana
04-09-2010, 10:49 PM
I predict a high population of 800 on first night

Thorjorkill
04-09-2010, 10:53 PM
Right on! My son and myself can't wait!

frediveli
04-09-2010, 11:08 PM
so is this new sever going to repel ddos attacks?

Dac321
04-09-2010, 11:19 PM
I predict a high population of 800 on first night

lez do it!! I got next weekend off wooot.

Pyratess
04-09-2010, 11:20 PM
LOL I forsee much trolling, celebration, jubilation, and mayhem in our future... as well as a crazy amount of lag from everyone logging on at once XD This will be a moment to remember! :D Can't wait.

Intricus
04-09-2010, 11:20 PM
Glad I have that Friday, AND that weekend off. :D

Fraud
04-09-2010, 11:34 PM
OMG!

*foaming at the mouth*

Mordachai
04-09-2010, 11:54 PM
OMG!

*foaming at the mouth*

this means much CB action soon!

Budah
04-10-2010, 12:02 AM
If you guys really appreciate what the team here @ P1999 are doing, then donate for the cause... Rog is spending 1500 of his own dough, let's lessen the blow for him!!!

Phineas
04-10-2010, 12:33 AM
Far out man!

Appreciate what you guys are doing for us EQ junkies, and will continue to donate to the cause on a monthly basis!

~phin

Phineas
04-10-2010, 12:34 AM
By the way...for everybody planning on logging in as soon as possible...

CAMP CHECK!




~phin

vidurous
04-10-2010, 12:52 AM
Can't wait *cheers* to the staff

Togo
04-10-2010, 01:05 AM
this news gave me huge boners!!!!!!!!!!!! (real and e-peen)


wooooohooooooooooooooooo!





what the hell am I going to do for a week though... I started league of legends, somebody suggested it in another thread and its pretty cool. much more laid back than DOTA

Uaellaen
04-10-2010, 01:09 AM
FG's camped ...

lamruil
04-10-2010, 01:46 AM
Cool story on the server date. Feel free to make it Saturday morning since i work late Friday night =) My gf doesn't appreciate the servers coming back up though. All this free time spoiling her, cant have her getting too used to such things.

Lamruil

Rania
04-10-2010, 03:29 AM
Nice job Devs :) Will be great to see us back up and running.

Hope people realise how much work you guys have put in to get it back up. It would be so easy for you guys to go you know what screw it. Your efforts are appreciated.

stormlord
04-10-2010, 05:22 AM
Glad to hear the good news!

rtyui
04-10-2010, 06:36 AM
As celebration you are putting Guise masks back in the game for a week, right? ;)

pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee~:D

Tudana
04-10-2010, 08:10 AM
so is this new sever going to repel ddos attacks?

good question

Uaellaen
04-10-2010, 08:33 AM
pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee~:D

no! now go away flypigs la~

Cryptwalker
04-10-2010, 09:41 AM
Will the server then be safe to new ddos attacks?

Pyratess
04-10-2010, 09:48 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and say it... 17 Pally LFG, will run anywhere but has to first fetch her body in UGuk! :P PST

Lyrren
04-10-2010, 10:08 AM
Thank you Rogean

Ablazze
04-10-2010, 10:46 AM
Six more days of having to talk to the family :)

Bentheb
04-10-2010, 11:51 AM
Six more days of having to talk to the family :(

Fixxed

Nedala
04-10-2010, 12:01 PM
Thanks a lot rogean, good news :)

A GM event would be a cool thing to celebrate this, since many people will be online then :D

And if not: 22 Druid LFG - prefer uguk =)

ride the spiral
04-10-2010, 12:18 PM
Great news I'm excited for the return. I will be starting my donations May 1st.

Thank you for your effort through this, Project 1999.

Isildur
04-10-2010, 02:01 PM
They should have little breaks like this every couple months. As much as it is torture, it really has allowed me to get a LOT of shit done at home, at school, with the lady, etc. When the servers are actually up I can't seem to strip myself away, even when I have nothing else to do other than sit around and wait :)

CronosZ
04-10-2010, 02:11 PM
They should have little breaks like this every couple months. As much as it is torture, it really has allowed me to get a LOT of shit done at home, at school, with the lady, etc. When the servers are actually up I can't seem to strip myself away, even when I have nothing else to do other than sit around and wait :)

Silence !

We wont have that kind of talk here.

Im trying to kill my Woman with attention so shes even starting to wish P99 would be back up before the 16th. hehe, and as for geting things done.....what do you mean ?

ethinin
04-10-2010, 03:18 PM
I think an in-game celebration is in order! Party in rivervale! I'll buy the first round!

Ashane
04-10-2010, 03:40 PM
As celebration you are putting Guise masks back in the game for a week, right? ;)
i would love this.. i had a pre-nerf guise on live and it was my favorite part about classic EQ. bring it back for a week like Krone said, plz!

Nen
04-10-2010, 04:43 PM
I think an in-game celebration is in order! Party in rivervale! I'll buy the first round!

I like the way you think, Ethinin! :D

Putrid
04-10-2010, 04:50 PM
i got a job sence the server went down, least something came good out of the time i couldnt play EQ but im stoked to quit my newly earned job and play EQ!!!! haha jk but srsly gotta cut some hourage in for EQ

xvirus2501
04-10-2010, 05:21 PM
Will this server have better Ddos prevention and maybe some extra firewall protection against Finawin? Hes stinky

SteveTheDreamer
04-10-2010, 06:21 PM
I think an in-game celebration is in order! Party in rivervale! I'll buy the first round!

Cheers! If the server goes back up I will buy the 2nd, 3rd ,4th, and 5th rounds as well!

Thanks Rogean and p1999 staff for all your hard work. I have faith in you to bring the server back in due time when its ready.

Firrewhisper
04-10-2010, 08:12 PM
Great news, Thanks Rogean and all the staff for the hours and hours of time spent making Project 1999 for us.

Thorfin
04-10-2010, 08:25 PM
woot x 3 grats Rog. hope all goes well

Swindle
04-10-2010, 08:28 PM
How about a level 1 Gnome/Halfling race through Kithicor at night? They did that on EMARR once. Fun stuff.

Nedala
04-10-2010, 11:38 PM
How about a level 1 Gnome/Halfling race through Kithicor at night? They did that on EMARR once. Fun stuff.

too easy....better qeynos-fp :D

SejalTraurig
04-10-2010, 11:40 PM
How about a level 1 Gnome/Halfling race through Kithicor at night? They did that on EMARR once. Fun stuff.

Bah.. You want to ratchet up the risk factor, you have to do Drunken Level 1 races through Kelethin

Bones
04-10-2010, 11:58 PM
Bah.. You want to ratchet up the risk factor, you have to do Drunken Level 1 races through Kelethin

That shit was soooooo much fun lol.

atvaata
04-11-2010, 01:21 AM
I think an in-game celebration is in order! Party in rivervale! I'll buy the first round!

the guards are lucky the server is down.... or there would be only despair in the land of rivervale

Brad_mo123
04-11-2010, 04:03 AM
This all sucks though, really makes our server look like shit to all the people who seen us on tentonhammer.com. Might as well throw that burst of new members out the window for a later date. We will still grow but it will be dramatically delayed :(. Hopefully they wont think the server is shit becuase it's far from any other emu server anywhere, most stable just some guy with childish grudge, he'll get over it one day.

Finawin
04-11-2010, 04:25 AM
Anyone who is deterred by such trivial shit isn't going to make it past level 20 anyways.

Fuck 'em.

Uaellaen
04-11-2010, 05:42 AM
Fuck 'em.

only if they are female Dark Elf, Wood Elf and maybe even Half Elf!

Finawin
04-11-2010, 05:47 AM
Something tells me you like the pointy ears!

Uaellaen
04-11-2010, 06:49 AM
yeah ... its the ... "ears" ...!!!

Barnes
04-11-2010, 06:59 AM
This all sucks though, really makes our server look like shit to all the people who seen us on tentonhammer.com. Might as well throw that burst of new members out the window for a later date. We will still grow but it will be dramatically delayed :(. Hopefully they wont think the server is shit becuase it's far from any other emu server anywhere, most stable just some guy with childish grudge, he'll get over it one day.

im sory mate but you sound like a sad cow lost in the wind, get a life mate. there is more to life the playing a game so in the mean time find a god damn hobby , when the server returns all is good . RIGHT???


hahaha

Bentheb
04-11-2010, 07:23 AM
This all sucks though, really makes our server look like shit to all the people who seen us on tentonhammer.com. Might as well throw that burst of new members out the window for a later date. We will still grow but it will be dramatically delayed :(. Hopefully they wont think the server is shit becuase it's far from any other emu server anywhere, most stable just some guy with childish grudge, he'll get over it one day.

Honestly we dont need need new people, 500ish during prime times is a good number, groups are not hard to find, but at times camps can be.
you get a 1000 people on the server its going to be to crowded IMO.

once Kunark comes out then yeah but, kunark coming out will drawl people all by its self.

Look at the raid scene now, then think about 2-300 more lvl 50's?

While i hope it dosnt do any damage to the tth post i really dont see the need for a bunch of new players atm atleast.

Ghordo
04-11-2010, 12:22 PM
I couldn't agree more Bentheb. More people isn't always better. I really don't want to see this server go into the toilet because there was to much exposure.Thus which draws a lot of people who will want to ruin it for us just for mere laughter. Hence what has happened, and what will going to happen down the road. Although I pray it won't, because this server has brought me down a road of nostalgia for which I am so thankful.

mitic
04-11-2010, 01:11 PM
is this a joke? you are srsly complaining about a high population?

o m g

Nedala
04-11-2010, 01:16 PM
Id love if server pop. would raise to 1000+ so we could take down ooc and make this real classic. The server pop is enough when finding grps and selling/buying stuff without global ooc wont be a problem anymore imo.

Bones
04-11-2010, 01:21 PM
Id love if server pop. would raise to 1000+ so we could take down ooc and make this real classic. The server pop is enough when finding grps and selling/buying stuff without global ooc wont be a problem anymore imo.

Agreed.
I would love the pop to raise high enough to take down global /ooc.
One of my favorite things to do was hang out in EC tunnel or NFP bank and watch the /auction spam.

Bentheb
04-11-2010, 02:28 PM
no reason not to take down global OOC right now.

/who all LFG works fine, and if you want to buy or sell you are going to goto freeport anyhow.

I end up shutting off ooc auc 1/2 the time anyhow due to the anti Amreican crap or the porn spam

and again go read rants and flames, then think about what it would be like with 300 more lvl 50's.

if it does go upto 1000 so be it im not going to complain about, nor was i before, just stating a point.

andymc1980
04-11-2010, 02:54 PM
/agree bones....
East commons tunnel was an amazing atmosphere back in the day

Finawin
04-11-2010, 07:50 PM
EC tunnel is fucking stupid and it will never happen again people.

Olorin
04-11-2010, 08:44 PM
Id love if server pop. would raise to 1000+ so we could take down ooc and make this real classic. The server pop is enough when finding grps and selling/buying stuff without global ooc wont be a problem anymore imo.

Shutting down OOC wont accomplish anything unless AUC is shut down too.

Bones
04-11-2010, 08:59 PM
Shutting down OOC wont accomplish anything unless AUC is shut down too.

he said that based on the assumption that /auc and /ooc would be in the same boat regarding their nerf to zone-wide.

EC tunnel is fucking stupid and it will never happen again people.

Lol'd

Axion
04-11-2010, 09:37 PM
Finawin your seriously annoying....

Sadface
04-11-2010, 10:18 PM
Yeah Finawin is the jizz rag of P99

Nedala
04-11-2010, 10:23 PM
he said that based on the assumption that /auc and /ooc would be in the same boat regarding their nerf to zone-wide.


yep


EC tunnel is fucking stupid and it will never happen again people.

There will be a place (most likeley NFP like its now) where everybody will meet if global ooc (+auction) is off.

But i didnt want to turn this thread into the next ooc debate :)

Zilo
04-11-2010, 11:13 PM
I cannot wait for the server to return, i was playing PEQ for a bit...and my god is it lame compared to P99...IMO, even though both are blessings for all. Still p99, i cannot wait to ravish you!! i dont care how rediculous this sounds but i am gunna push for a IB Befallen raid!! jus to get her all warmed up ! /dance :D

Brad_mo123
04-11-2010, 11:50 PM
im sory mate but you sound like a sad cow lost in the wind, get a life mate. there is more to life the playing a game so in the mean time find a god damn hobby , when the server returns all is good . RIGHT???


hahaha

Says the boy who cant even troll properly lol. How can you fail so horribly at something even Finawin is good at... it's beyond me.

Finawin
04-12-2010, 01:35 AM
yep




There will be a place (most likeley NFP like its now) where everybody will meet if global ooc (+auction) is off.

But i didnt want to turn this thread into the next ooc debate :)

Meet, yes...but no one is going to sit there /shouting their shit for hours on end like kids did in 1999. It won't happen.

Shutting off ooc can be done by going into options, filters, and selecting "hide" for out of character. Problem solved.

You can use /shout if you want zonewide chat to keep your vagina from bleeding people.

Sadface
04-12-2010, 01:38 AM
Meet, yes...but no one is going to sit there /shouting their shit for hours on end like kids did in 1999. It won't happen.


Are you stupid or just trolling ?

What you are saying won't happen is exactly what would happen if global ooc was removed. If you need an item and you don't have time to group/raid, you will just log in your alt and park him in ec auctioning semi afk.

And for the record, I don't lean one way or the other.

Judgement
04-12-2010, 01:47 AM
I'd like to know more about what the new host will provide in terms of tangible benefits to the server and its players from the dev(s).

I'd like those benefits presented in the form of a bulleted list in no particular order of importance or emphasis. I think lists like those are really effective, and would get me more excited about what lies ahead for the server than a regular old numbered list.

Or if someone impersonated a dev and made a nice .ppt, and placed a link for download in this thread. I like it when the text slides into frame from the right...that always sends murmers through the boardroom.

calaxa
04-12-2010, 05:37 AM
I cannot wait for the server to return, i was playing PEQ for a bit...and my god is it lame compared to P99...IMO, even though both are blessings for all. Still p99, i cannot wait to ravish you!! i dont care how rediculous this sounds but i am gunna push for a IB Befallen raid!! jus to get her all warmed up ! /dance :D

Zilo,

I just farmed you SCHW and venomous axe of the brood. Oh well, gave it to aerken to pass on to deeze. I'll still help you out if you wanna come onto peq. You're a crippled ranger....you need all the help you can get ;)

Bones
04-12-2010, 07:58 AM
Server-wide /ooc and /auc is a convenience, and as such it will have many supporters.

Shutting off ooc can be done by going into options, filters, and selecting "hide" for out of character. Problem solved.

You missed the point. We do not simply want to "shut off ooc". Changing it from server-wide to zone-wide will change the environment of the server itself, and THAT is what people are after.

You can use /shout if you want zonewide chat to keep your vagina from bleeding people.

Stop trolling

Budah
04-12-2010, 08:13 AM
I'd like to know more about what the new host will provide in terms of tangible benefits to the server and its players from the dev(s).


I agree - I am not as computer savvy as I thought I am, or in comparison to the others on this forum, but I would still get excited like a school girl while I wait for friday!


I'd like those benefits presented in the form of a bulleted list in no particular order of importance or emphasis. I think lists like those are really effective, and would get me more excited about what lies ahead for the server than a regular old numbered list.


/nod


Or if someone impersonated a dev and made a nice .ppt, and placed a link for download in this thread. I like it when the text slides into frame from the right...that always sends murmers through the boardroom.


I LOL'ed! (But everyone knows Fade in is the best... it's like it appears out of nowhere! )

mitic
04-12-2010, 08:22 AM
i think the serverwide /ooc was activated on emu due to the low population on each server. doesnt apply to P99 (anymore) so its time to disactive it, same with auction.

Budah
04-12-2010, 08:41 AM
i think the serverwide /ooc was activated on emu due to the low population on each server. doesnt apply to P99 (anymore) so its time to disactive it, same with auction.

I wouldn't mind - but the community would have to find a way to come together in a single location. (IE EC Tunnel). What's weird is back in the day, on Xev server... the selling spot was Kelethin. In retrospec I don't fully understand why, but I did have fun setting up shops in those empty huts. Either way, this should be a thread in itself, and not here derailing the main subject - welcoming back P99 on Friday (You guys were missed... severely!)

mitic
04-12-2010, 08:47 AM
another solution would be the activation of bazaar and appropriate druid/wiz ports

bionicbadger
04-12-2010, 08:54 AM
another solution would be the activation of bazaar and appropriate druid/wiz ports

Hell no. That would suck and totally ruin the point of the server.

I'm all for limiting /ooc to zone, and banning anyone who misuses the /auction channel.

mitic
04-12-2010, 09:09 AM
bazaar was the best tool to keep the prices at a fair level. the rest of luclin sucked (fighting aliens on a moon, no thanks,)

Bones
04-12-2010, 09:25 AM
bazaar was the best tool to keep the prices at a fair level. the rest of luclin sucked (fighting aliens on a moon, no thanks,)

Have to disagree with you there. Bazaar did not help keep the prices at a fair level, it killed the value of most items since there were always multiples of every trade-able item in the game on the /bazaar list. On top of that, all the perma-afk bazaar mules were trying to beat the other prices of the other 10 traders with "Item A" on the list.

Edit: My opinion is biased though. I enjoyed sitting in EC tunnel much more, despite the convenience of being able to make cash with my bazaar mule while sleeping.

Rangor StarFyre
04-12-2010, 09:27 AM
Grats P99. Welcome back... Now time to watch my newly revived social life get pwnt.

Anladar
04-12-2010, 09:35 AM
Woot thanks to the crew working on p99!

OOC/AUC, NFP/EC debaters, is there any way you could create a thread to further discuss this? Just trying to help the thread stay on topic :D

mitic
04-12-2010, 09:36 AM
Have to disagree with you there. Bazaar did not help keep the prices at a fair level, it killed the value of most items since there were always multiples of every trade-able item in the game on the /bazaar list. On top of that, all the perma-afk bazaar mules were trying to beat the other prices of the other 10 traders with "Item A" on the list.

rare items cost more than common ones. so if some traders start to beat each others with the same item, then its an indication that this item isnt rare and therefore should be sold at a "fair" price. i dont understand why u think that something like this killed the value of an item, its quite the contrary...bazaar stoped people ripping off others

Kanor
04-12-2010, 09:38 AM
bazaar was the best tool to keep the prices at a fair level. the rest of luclin sucked (fighting aliens on a moon, no thanks,)

You are an idiot.

Go back to vztz

mitic
04-12-2010, 09:42 AM
You are an idiot.

Go back to vztz

elaborate

Zordana
04-12-2010, 10:09 AM
You are an idiot.

Go back to vztz

fuck you and your flaming, thanks

Kanor
04-12-2010, 10:30 AM
elaborate

You suggesting server wipes and implementing bazaar swamps this thread with worthless dribble. GM's will naturally disregard all meaningful requests now because people like you insist on asking for shit that will obviously never happen.

Agaron
04-12-2010, 10:40 AM
I don't understand why people are trying to change a perfectly good server. Just play the game, and enjoy it.

Bones
04-12-2010, 10:48 AM
rare items cost more than common ones. so if some traders start to beat each others with the same item, then its an indication that this item isnt rare and therefore should be sold at a "fair" price. i dont understand why u think that something like this killed the value of an item, its quite the contrary...bazaar stoped people ripping off others

Everything you said in that post was just wrong, sorry. And no, even the rare items dropped price significantly after the release of Bazaar. One perfect example was Cowl of Mortality. It went from 250-300k to 100-150k in less than a month on our server, despite there only being 3 or 4 of them. Another example.. Cloak of Flames going from around 50kish to 20-30k in about 2-3 months.

so if some traders start to beat each others with the same item, then its an indication that this item isnt rare and therefore should be sold at a "fair" price.

Wrong again. You really don't understand how the EQ economy worked pre-bazaar is my indication. It wasn't that an item was LESS RARE, Its that everybody that had that particular item to sell was now able to have it on a mule 24/7 instead of the 2-3 hours they normally would have spent trying to sell it. I could go a week without seeing a particular item in EC tunnel being sold, not because it was rare, but because the people that had the item simply were not logged in, or off exping. But with bazaar, everybody could have a mule up 24/7, therefore more of a particular item available all the time, resulting in the value of that item diminishing before my eyes.

mitic
04-12-2010, 10:49 AM
You suggesting server wipes and implementing bazaar swamps this thread with worthless dribble. GM's will naturally disregard all meaningful requests now because people like you insist on asking for shit that will obviously never happen.

as you said iam suggesting and not demanding + iam respecting others opinions, what about you?

on a side note, there arent any requests in this specific thread besides encomiastic replies about the server return so take a pill and chill.

Everything you said in that post was just wrong, sorry. And no, even the rare items dropped price significantly after the release of Bazaar. One perfect example was Cowl of Mortality. It went from 250-300k to 100-150k in less than a month on our server, despite there only being 3 or 4 of them. Another example.. Cloak of Flames going from around 50kish to 20-30k in about 2-3 months.

mudflation occurs, with or without bazaar .. there have been other, similar items you could buy for alot less in that era

It wasn't that an item was LESS RARE, Its that everybody that had that particular item to sell was now able to have it on a mule 24/7 instead of the 2-3 hours they normally would have spent trying to sell it. I could go a week without seeing a particular item in EC tunnel being sold, not because it was rare, but because the people that had the item simply were not logged in, or off exping. But with bazaar, everybody could have a mule up 24/7, therefore more of a particular item available all the time, resulting in the value of that item diminishing before my eyes.

and thats the point:

youd have more problems estimating the value of an item if you dont see it auctioned on your playtimes. with bazaar you could check the current pricing of an item whenever you want AND you wont be ripped off if more traders are selling this specific item. bazaar was selfregulating the prices on a server and iam confident this was one of the reasons why it was implemented first-hand

Finawin
04-12-2010, 10:56 AM
The worthless "dribble" in this thread is people thinking EC tunnel is going to happen, or that it is in any way "fun".

That shit is so far beyond retarded I can't believe people actually want to sit there wasting their time for hours on end to sell their shitty items.

Bones
04-12-2010, 11:04 AM
mudflation occurs, with or without bazaar .. there have been other, similar items you could buy for alot less in that era

Can't argue with that. Bazaar just accelerated the mudflation is all I am saying.

The worthless "dribble" in this thread is people thinking EC tunnel is going to happen, or that it is in any way "fun".

That shit is so far beyond retarded I can't believe people actually want to sit there wasting their time for hours on end to sell their shitty items.

Lol, Why do you even bother posting?

Finawin
04-12-2010, 11:06 AM
I figure with the less intelligent that repeated hammering of ideas into their thick skulls is the most effective way to go about proving a point that they are incapable of understanding.

Serverwide OOC was taken off before. It failed. This entire argument fails every single time it's brought up.

Nedala
04-12-2010, 11:13 AM
I figure with the less intelligent that repeated hammering of ideas into their thick skulls is the most effective way to go about proving a point that they are incapable of understanding.

Serverwide OOC was taken off before. It failed. This entire argument fails every single time it's brought up.


lol you really hate the ec tunnel. you got raped there or smtn?

Bones
04-12-2010, 11:16 AM
Nevermind, its not even worth arguing about.

Finawin will always be right in his mind so it is pointless.

Intricus
04-12-2010, 11:33 AM
lol you really hate the ec tunnel. you got raped there or smtn?

Hmmm, imagine that....
there is that unlit area of the tunnel past Shady and Bubar, and there are stacks of crates that 2 human-sized character models can easilly fit behind, and be obscured...I would issue a warning to any females, and/or small male characters, STAY OUT OF THE TUNNEL AT NIGHT, AND NEVER WALK THROUGH THE TUNNEL ALONE!

..and if you see any suspicious looking ogres or trolls wandering in or around the tunnel area, petition a GM IMMEDIATELY.

Kanor
04-12-2010, 11:40 AM
Lol Finawin got Ograped in EC tunnel

Shrubwise
04-12-2010, 11:47 AM
Finawin, meet me at torch two and I'll sell you a tazer. It won't happen again.

Finawin
04-12-2010, 12:20 PM
Nevermind, its not even worth arguing about.

Finawin will always be right in his mind so it is pointless.

In my mind, no.

In reality, yes.

This subject has been brought up countless times and it was beat down every time. There are at LEAST 5 threads on the matter and it was hashed out more times than can be counted.

The fact you can't understand this proves a lot. You want to waste hours on end in EC tunnel away from leveling, exploring, having fun...you do that. The rest of us non-retards will continue to play a game rather than waste our time. Similarly if you want to not see serverwide chat, shut them off and quit fucking crying.

Bentheb
04-12-2010, 12:36 PM
guilds should start useing OOC and AUC for raid commands then just like in classic

jilena
04-12-2010, 01:09 PM
I am all for more spam in /OOC. I think had /OOC not been there I would have made it to like 20 on this server before getting bored and logging off. It's about the only thing that makes being ungrouped tolerable. I don't really understand why people are so incredibly offended by people having conversations, regardless of the topic, in a game that is 100% designed around its community and social aspects. If you solo in EQ without talking or interacting with anyone I can only assume there is something wrong with you. MMOs aren't exactly challenging lol.

douglas1999
04-12-2010, 01:36 PM
The problem with worldwide /ooc is that it makes the game essentially a big chat room. I honestly don't give that much of a shit about EC tunnel trading, but a lot of people do. What I really hate about it though is the chatroom aspect, as if the devs are saying "ehhhh ok, we know this world is really fuckin big so whatever, let's just let everyone talk to everyone else no matter where they are even though that doesn't really make sense". And yes, yes, before you start blathering I know /tell does the same thing, but that's only to one person, it doesn't send the tell to everyone on the entire server all at once.

The whole point of this server is recreating the experience, the immersion, all that good horseshit. Global /ooc puts a big dent in the immersion for me. And no, Finawin, you insufferable fucking drip, I'm not going to just "turn it off u reatrd!!" because I WANT to have /ooc in the zone I'm CURRENTLY IN, you know, like how it was in original everquest, you know, like, that thing that this server is trying to recreate? But no, let's continue to arbitrarily change things that are "annoying" cause that philosophy totally worked so well for Sony and didn't completely ruin the game and force us all to come here or anything!

KingKoopa
04-12-2010, 01:41 PM
lol Douglas use shout you Twat...... as fun as EC tunnel was back in the day i dont want it put back in bcuz as finawin stated you will sit there for hours days even searching for the item you want...and anyways the NFP bank is pretty jumping man.. like 75% of transactions go down there...but you dont haved to "Hail" them and browse their bags to see wat they have

Kyleon-42 Dark elf Mage

douglas1999
04-12-2010, 01:46 PM
Well, like I said I personally don't really give a shit about EC tunnel trading. I don't like it because it trivializes a big aspect of the game (communication with other players). Trivializing things that are deemed to be "annoying" or "hard" is what ruined the game in the first place, and is the reason 99% of us are playing here.

Also, rather than telling us all to "just turn it off" like you supporters love to do, how about: Remove it, and put in chat channels (which would be era accurate really), and then anyone who still wants to have a global "chat" can join the p1999 chat channel or whatever. Everybody wins!

Finawin
04-12-2010, 01:46 PM
The problem with worldwide /ooc is that it makes the game essentially a big chat room. I honestly don't give that much of a shit about EC tunnel trading, but a lot of people do. What I really hate about it though is the chatroom aspect, as if the devs are saying "ehhhh ok, we know this world is really fuckin big so whatever, let's just let everyone talk to everyone else no matter where they are even though that doesn't really make sense". And yes, yes, before you start blathering I know /tell does the same thing, but that's only to one person, it doesn't send the tell to everyone on the entire server all at once.

The whole point of this server is recreating the experience, the immersion, all that good horseshit. Global /ooc puts a big dent in the immersion for me. And no, Finawin, you insufferable fucking drip, I'm not going to just "turn it off u reatrd!!" because I WANT to have /ooc in the zone I'm CURRENTLY IN, you know, like how it was in original everquest, you know, like, that thing that this server is trying to recreate? But no, let's continue to arbitrarily change things that are "annoying" cause that philosophy totally worked so well for Sony and didn't completely ruin the game and force us all to come here or anything!

Use shout. Stop being a baby.

WAAAH it ruins my immersion when I can shut it off, waaaah.

Zimzulu
04-12-2010, 01:55 PM
In my mind, no.

In reality, yes.

This subject has been brought up countless times and it was beat down every time. There are at LEAST 5 threads on the matter and it was hashed out more times than can be counted.

The fact you can't understand this proves a lot. You want to waste hours on end in EC tunnel away from leveling, exploring, having fun...you do that. The rest of us non-retards will continue to play a game rather than waste our time. Similarly if you want to not see serverwide chat, shut them off and quit fucking crying.

Any every time its brought up there you are crying up a god damn storm about people reposting. Just fucking ignore you fucking whiny baby.

Finawin
04-12-2010, 02:02 PM
You can't ignore the new post indicator just because some fucking moron wants to bring up a DEAD TOPIC because they're too retarded to use the forum search function that is on every forum.

If I could "ignore retarded posts" I would. Then none of us would be having this conversation because none of you would be able to make a new topic about the same shit 10 fucking times.

Zimzulu
04-12-2010, 02:11 PM
You can't ignore the new post indicator just because some fucking moron wants to bring up a DEAD TOPIC because they're too retarded to use the forum search function that is on every forum.

If I could "ignore retarded posts" I would. Then none of us would be having this conversation because none of you would be able to make a new topic about the same shit 10 fucking times.

See: Whiny+Baby.

Finawin
04-12-2010, 02:12 PM
*yawn* okay random troll.

Bones
04-12-2010, 02:24 PM
In my mind, no.

In reality, yes.

This subject has been brought up countless times and it was beat down every time. There are at LEAST 5 threads on the matter and it was hashed out more times than can be counted.

It is just people making threads, not making decisions. You "Beating down" every /ooc thread will not change the devs decision regarding the matter anyways. You don't have to agree with them but to respond with the utter bullshit that spews out of your mouth is astonishing. Belittling everybody with every post you make, thinking you are smarter than everybody and that you are never wrong, just proves how much of a complete pile of shit you really are.

The fact you can't understand this proves a lot. You want to waste hours on end in EC tunnel away from leveling, exploring, having fun...you do that. The rest of us non-retards will continue to play a game rather than waste our time. Similarly if you want to not see serverwide chat, shut them off and quit fucking crying.

Any time you spend in this game AT ALL is a waste of time, whether it is exping, exploring, or sitting in EC tunnel.. its just fucking pixels in a game, get over yourself. Nobody is trying to force you to sit in EC tunnel.

Every time someone mentions getting rid of server-wide chat you flip out like you have something to prove here. Stop making such a big fucking deal over it. Are you afraid the devs are suddenly going to oust the global channel because one person made a thread? Grab a joint and relax.

On another note, I don't mind the server-wide chat and at no point cried about it. All I said was that I would rather it be zone-wide, but I will be fine if it remains global. You on the other hand are raging your ass off about people just proposing the idea.

And for the record, despite what you believe to be intelligent words coming out of your mouth, you have proven with every single post you have submitted that you are the least qualified person on the forums to give any input, whatsoever.

/rant off

Finawin
04-12-2010, 02:30 PM
Stop shitting up the forums with the same threads over and over that have gotten a resounding no every time. Do a search, there are almost 10 threads since the beginning.

If you can't follow "forums 101" you don't deserve a courteous response. RTFM

Kanor
04-12-2010, 02:33 PM
Finawin iz mad cause he got raped by an ogre in ec

True story

jilena
04-12-2010, 02:33 PM
They need to find a way to move the forums into the game so I don't have to alt-tab to double my drama intake.

Just a thought!

Sadface
04-12-2010, 02:37 PM
HEY EVERYBODY STOP CRYING MY NAME IS FINAWIN AND YOU ARE ALL MAD WTF STOP BEING CRY BABIES JESUS CHRIST PLEASE DONT TAKE AWAY GLOBAL OOC IM NOT RAGING RIGHT NOW BUT ILL CLAIM YOU ARE

Wut

Rogean
04-12-2010, 02:37 PM
Would chat channels be an acceptable replacement for /ooc and /auc, if we got them working?

Discuss.

Finawin
04-12-2010, 02:39 PM
Yeah, totally raging. You caught me.

But hey, if you enjoy making the same threads over and over...more power to you. Beating a dead horse sure is fun!

Sadface
04-12-2010, 02:39 PM
Would chat channels be an acceptable replacement for /ooc and /auc, if we got them working?

Discuss.

Well the draw is that people would have to gather some place to trade/barter and that would defeat the purpose.

Although it would also be nice to not have to ignore illililllilllililiiiili every hour as well.

Finawin
04-12-2010, 02:40 PM
Would chat channels be an acceptable replacement for /ooc and /auc, if we got them working?

Discuss.

Definitely, but if it's going to be a nightmare to get the code up and running where it's stable...don't bother taking any additional time coding this, IMO.

Bones
04-12-2010, 02:42 PM
Would chat channels be an acceptable replacement for /ooc and /auc, if we got them working?

Discuss.

It wouldn't change anything. But sure, why not?
There are people who want to get rid of global chat because of spam.
There are people who want to get rid of global chat because of the topics of conversation.
And then there are people who want to get rid of global chat simply because it changes the environment of the game. Although the population is still a little low for that. I would say when the population at peak hours is around closer to 1k+ and 400-500 on non-peak hours.

jilena
04-12-2010, 02:52 PM
Noooooo... Nobody likes me I won't get invited to the cool kids chat channels... Now I can force them to read how much I love Jesus in /ooc.

Nedala
04-12-2010, 02:53 PM
And then there are people who want to get rid of global chat simply because it changes the environment of the game. Although the population is still a little low for that. I would say when the population at peak hours is around closer to 1k+ and 400-500 on non-peak hours.

this

Intricus
04-12-2010, 03:00 PM
If you solo in EQ without talking or interacting with anyone I can only assume there is something wrong with you.

I for one most definetely have to disagree with, and am actually somewhat offended by that statement. I am not the most social person in PJ99, and I don't have a recognizable name due to the fact that I make a name for myself with my online personality
...but my toon is only level 20, and I am almost fully magical-geared, due to soloing mobs that drop decent loot/coin..I don't think if I grouped constantly I would have been able to do this, due to the fact that sharing loot and items would be involved. And if you can group at low levels and do what I have done soloing, then I could only assume you became so close to somebody with a level 50 main, and bonded with them so much, that they logged in their main and gave you some hand-me-down-gear. Call me selfish, but honestly my main inititiave wasn't to group and make friends while playing this game, rather was making a character from scratch, and gearing him out with decent loot, all the while seeing if I could SOLO original EQ content, from level 1-50. As I said I'm only level 20, and I've been able to do that so far. Lot of deaths, and some frustration, I get lonely at times and want to group every now and then, but when alls said and done, I can do what I set out to do, and enjoy it.

While this is a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER game, this isn't a chat room. I can't understand why something is 'wrong' with somebody who enjoys soloing.

Sono_hito
04-12-2010, 03:10 PM
I second that. Its a multiplayer game, but that doesnt mean i have to be social with anyone i dont want to be. (which honestly at times can mean most people)

Thorjorkill
04-12-2010, 03:22 PM
Would chat channels be an acceptable replacement for /ooc and /auc, if we got them working?

Discuss.

Waste of time. Whats going to happen, is everyone is going to join "/1" as opposed to building a social network, which is currently the problem with "/ooc" btw.

I'm not advocating people sitting in the EC tunnel to peddle and buy wares. However, in early EQ, you got to know people that could get stuff, were basically merchants, and they typically got added to a friends list when you got a good deal. There is NO reason not to put an auction house in game RIGHT NOW, as transactions between players are of a completely non social nature.

What I fondly remember is people building relationships within this game. Close ones at that. Not just drivel spouted forth in OOC (which has gotten way the fuck out of hand lately)

OOC shrinks the world and kills much of the social aspect of the game. If by social, you think I mean "chatting" you are a retard. (thats directed to everyone btw)

The lfg tool works. The /who tool works. You want to know where a friggin cleric is that is high enough to ress you? Send them a tell. You want to find out if a camp is open in LGUK, be creative, use the damn who command, and stop flooding ooc. You need info about something? Send that 48 pally a tell...

/OOC is not a good alternative to build social relationships in this game. It feels cheap, and its INTRUSIVE. You can say "turn it off then" but thats not really the point is it, as OOC is currently used to shrink the world, its wares, and its player base, to the point where I feel like I'm playing runescape with 500 other faceless people.

Oh, and Fin, no ones gives a shit as to your forum prowess and your epeen. This is a large enough concern to many players, there is a reason it keeps being brought up...

I remember doing JUST fine on Rathe with peaks of 3 to 500 players without ooc. I did not get online and do a who. I checked my friends list, and went from there. Large friends lists are whats going to keep this server going socially, not a cheap alternative like ooc, which is just an enormous horseshit chatbox to try and accomplish personal tasks.

I guess I just come from a different generation of people that don't need to be instantly gratified, and call their friends, or hang out, as opposed to texting them, thinking in some way that is real social interaction, and I'm "somehow" building a relationship with a fucking cellphone.

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Originally Posted by Finawin
HEY EVERYBODY STOP CRYING MY NAME IS FINAWIN AND YOU ARE ALL MAD WTF STOP BEING CRY BABIES JESUS CHRIST PLEASE DONT TAKE AWAY GLOBAL OOC IM NOT RAGING RIGHT NOW BUT ILL CLAIM YOU ARE
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This was full of win!

Malrubius
04-12-2010, 03:30 PM
Would chat channels be an acceptable replacement for /ooc and /auc, if we got them working?

Discuss.

I always thought chat channels took away some of the immersion factor and hope not to see them here.

Keeping global ooc is fine for now, and maybe revisit the idea (of global ooc) when we hit 1000 online peak (i.e. a few hundred non-peak).

Bones
04-12-2010, 03:40 PM
Waste of time. Whats going to happen, is everyone is going to join "/1" as opposed to building a social network, which is currently the problem with "/ooc" btw.

What I fondly remember is people building relationships within this game. Close ones at that. Not just drivel spouted forth in OOC (which has gotten way the fuck out of hand lately)

OOC shrinks the world and kills much of the social aspect of the game. If by social, you think I mean "chatting" you are a retard. (thats directed to everyone btw)

/OOC is not a good alternative to build social relationships in this game. It feels cheap, and its INTRUSIVE. You can say "turn it off then" but thats not really the point is it, as OOC is currently used to shrink the world, its wares, and its player base, to the point where I feel like I'm playing runescape with 500 other faceless people.

Basically hit the nail on the head. This same basic concept has been described several times only to be responded with something along the lines of "Stop beating the dead horse" or some stupid shit like that. (Its not a dead horse just because YOU say it is, Fin.)

Oh, and Fin, no ones gives a shit as to your forum prowess and your epeen. This is a large enough concern to many players, there is a reason it keeps being brought up...

There is one reason and one reason only why he wants to keep his /ooc.
Its obviously the only social format he attends on a regular basis besides the occasional trolling of forum threads.
Typical WoW kiddie.

Finawin
04-12-2010, 03:44 PM
Yeah, I totally get no social interaction and that's why I think your argument is absolute horseshit. You're so smart. I wish I was half as intelligent as you are!

It has nothing to do with the idea that your entire argument is retarded and that the majority of the server agrees. No, it couldn't be that we've already discussed this 100 times and the general consensus was to stfu. No, none of that!

Thorjorkill
04-12-2010, 03:46 PM
I always thought chat channels took away some of the immersion factor and hope not to see them here.

Keeping global ooc is fine for now, and maybe revisit the idea (of global ooc) when we hit 1000 online peak (i.e. a few hundred non-peak).

I would really like to know WHY we need a high peak population in order to dump OOC? More players per zone? Are you serious? Will ooc become significant if there are 300 people in LGUK?

When there is 30 in HPH?

The concern here seems to be people wanting 3 things... Auction capabilities, resses, and groups.

Auctions I can see being a legit issue. Leave an auction channel, and if people abuse it, BAN THEM (I know that has its own set of reprocussions) but seriously, this is the main bitch and worry of players.

I see that this is primarily a gear related game now, even though gear and difficulty were never really the draw of EQ. This game is relatively easy once past the learning curve, and gear, well, we could talk about gear and how some here are still obsessed with that rush of a FBSS drop, but thats a whole different topic, especially after 10 years.

This game has always been a socially based platform, a deep one at that. Driven by other factors such as gear, yep, but mostly by relationships made in game. Once again, squeezing 5 of your closest friends into a small room with 495 other people screaming for their own personal gain at the top of their lungs, is only going to generate alot of noise and frustration.

Again, here it comes "if you don't like it, turn it off" yet that presents another whole set of problems to the player. With the rest of the server using ooc as a crutch, and making it nessecary to progress, gear, and such, what happens to the player that hates it? They become the little kid sitting in the corner of the room.

You know where my vote lies on ooc.

Nedala
04-12-2010, 03:50 PM
It has nothing to do with the idea that your entire argument is retarded and that the majority of the server agrees. No, it couldn't be that we've already discussed this 100 times and the general consensus was to stfu.


Nope the general consensus was to wait until the server pop is big enough and then remove ooc. And the majority of the server agrees with our arguments if you take a look at previous ooc discussions.

Bones
04-12-2010, 03:56 PM
Yeah, I totally get no social interaction and that's why I think your argument is absolute horseshit. You're so smart. I wish I was half as intelligent as you are!

Terrible attempt at trolling yet again.

It has nothing to do with the idea that your entire argument is retarded and that the majority of the server agrees. No, it couldn't be that we've already discussed this 100 times and the general consensus was to stfu. No, none of that!

General consensus of all TEN people on the thread that responded?
You still think you speak for the majority of the server. There are 500-600 people on the server during peak hours. MAYBE 50 (Likely much less) of those people have responded to /ooc threads, and out of those people half of them lean in our direction.

The argument is not retarded because you say so.
Get your head out of your ass.

You can't ignore the new post indicator

Yes you fucking can.

Thorjorkill
04-12-2010, 03:59 PM
Yeah, I totally get no social interaction and that's why I think your argument is absolute horseshit. You're so smart. I wish I was half as intelligent as you are!

It has nothing to do with the idea that your entire argument is retarded and that the majority of the server agrees. No, it couldn't be that we've already discussed this 100 times and the general consensus was to stfu. No, none of that!

Its nice that every post of yours goes from 0 to 100. You are an exaggerator of the worst kind. I did not say NEVER, ALWAYS, or ENTIRE in my post, yet you have bad habits of flying off the handle and going to extremes any time you disagree with a post or an opinion.

Break it down brother, take a deep breath and take the manastone out of your ass, it NOT going to turn into a diamond no matter how hard you squeeze and blow snot from your nose in frustration, while the veins pop out of your neck.

We are listening if you can form a logical post without using terms like "retard, always, never, and stfu." However, I'll bet you absolutely, positively cannot do so.

Rogean
04-12-2010, 04:00 PM
We're still on track to be up Friday, again as long as everything goes as planned with the setup and configuration of the server at the data center.

Additionally, we will be having a bonus XP week for 1 Week after the server comes back up. All exp gained from kills will be increased 50%.

bionicbadger
04-12-2010, 04:02 PM
Additionally, we will be having a bonus XP week for 1 Week after the server comes back up. All exp gained from kills will be increased 50%.

ugh. why?

Bones
04-12-2010, 04:03 PM
We're still on track to be up Friday, again as long as everything goes as planned with the setup and configuration of the server at the data center.

Additionally, we will be having a bonus XP week for 1 Week after the server comes back up. All exp gained from kills will be increased 50%.

OH SNAP!

Edit: Appreciate all that you have done dude. Ill be donating soon.
However, the 50% exp is not necessary :P

Sadface
04-12-2010, 04:03 PM
We're still on track to be up Friday, again as long as everything goes as planned with the setup and configuration of the server at the data center.

Additionally, we will be having a bonus XP week for 1 Week after the server comes back up. All exp gained from kills will be increased 50%.


How about making de mask attainable for this week as well. I liked that suggestion !

Give ogres/troll one last opportunity to attain something to shrink themselves ?

calaxa
04-12-2010, 04:03 PM
One major problem of removing global /ooc and /auction is it creates a strong disadvantage for any newcomers to the server. It will truly be classic for those joining the server to venture to the zone (maybe having travelled for 40 mins by boat/translocator) they want to hunt in and shouting that they are LFG. Maybe this poor newb started in Qeynos and there is no one in the zone and no way to get a port out of there. He's going to sit there or make the long/tedious/dangerous run to Freeport. We've all benefitted from the global /ooc and it's easy now for us to disparage it if we're guilded but think about how tough we are making it for new people. If you want to make that change, I believe the server should be wiped because this created a tremendous advantage to those who joined beforehand, more so than any item that no longer drops. The number of high level players would have been cut tremendously and the entire landscape of the game would have changed.

I think this change is fundamentally game alterring and it becomes a major barrier to entry for anyone starting on this server moving forward.

Thorjorkill
04-12-2010, 04:09 PM
One major problem of removing global /ooc and /auction is it creates a strong disadvantage for any newcomers to the server. It will truly be classic for those joining the server to venture to the zone (maybe having travelled for 40 mins by boat/translocator) they want to hunt in and shouting that they are LFG. Maybe this poor newb started in Qeynos and there is no one in the zone and no way to get a port out of there. He's going to sit there or make the long/tedious/dangerous run to Freeport. We've all benefitted from the global /ooc and it's easy now for us to disparage it if we're guilded but think about how tough we are making it for new people. If you want to make that change, I believe the server should be wiped because this created a tremendous advantage to those who joined beforehand, more so than any item that no longer drops. The number of high level players would have been cut tremendously and the entire landscape of the game would have changed.

I think this change is fundamentally game alterring and it becomes a major barrier to entry for anyone starting on this server moving forward.

I don't think so Calaxa, if you need a hand, send me a tell in game, start using /who, talk to those you see in game (besides "hi" or /wave), make some friends, and have some fun! Build some relationships, once you do, you'll never look at that cheap ass ooc channel again. Things in game will start to feel aquired and meaningful. (unless theres a really good deal on a fishbone :))

This is the way it USED to be in EQ, and I think alot of you forget that a awesome drop was only awesome because you had friends to share the experience with.
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Rogean-
NO!! Reverse your decision before more people see the thread! Maybe for the weekend, but a whole week? Its going to make content fly by for some of us, that would like to experience it, as opposed to rushing through it. I would take a gander that most of the server population is not too concerned with leveling up as fast as possible.

Olorin
04-12-2010, 04:09 PM
Would chat channels be an acceptable replacement for /ooc and /auc, if we got them working?

Discuss.

Well, the problem is that they would have the exact same effect as the current channels do -- might as well leave them up and not waste the development effort on getting them to work properly. Also, its vague, but i seem to remember server instability related to chat channels.

More importantly, how is the server rebuild in the new datacenter coming? We still on track for friday, or maybe even a little earlier?

Inquiring minds wanna know!

Finawin
04-12-2010, 04:11 PM
Chat channels would also give guilds channels for raids. This is a great idea.

Intricus
04-12-2010, 04:12 PM
Additionally, we will be having a bonus XP week for 1 Week after the server comes back up. All exp gained from kills will be increased 50%.

Surely this is an April Fool's day joke, 12 days too late? I would hope.

Not that I'm complaining or anything, I'm happy to see the server will still be brought up this Friday...but bonus exp week? That has SoE live EQ written all over it. Honestly, that's WORSE than SoE EQ...they would only have bonus exp weekEND.

Bones
04-12-2010, 04:16 PM
Nevermind, Tired of talking about global chat now lol.

Long live p99 and can't wait till friday.

Nedala
04-12-2010, 04:20 PM
Surely this is an April Fool's day joke, 12 days too late? I would hope.

Not that I'm complaining or anything, I'm happy to see the server will still be brought up this Friday...but bonus exp week? That has SoE live EQ written all over it. Honestly, that's WORSE than SoE EQ...they would only have bonus exp weekEND.

Well there was no 1-week-downtime on live either. So imagine the server wouldnt have been down for a week we all would have made some exp. I think the exp event is for getting some "lost time" back.

I think the idea isnt that bad but i dont really care if we get an exp event or not(as long as we dont get exp events every few month).

I just want to play again im so bored :(

Thx for the news Rogean.

Rogean
04-12-2010, 04:22 PM
Relax, It's 50%.. Not double.

mitic
04-12-2010, 04:23 PM
We're still on track to be up Friday, again as long as everything goes as planned with the setup and configuration of the server at the data center.

Additionally, we will be having a bonus XP week for 1 Week after the server comes back up. All exp gained from kills will be increased 50%.

siged

so thats 7%exp bonus for me, woot ;)

Intricus
04-12-2010, 04:24 PM
Well there was no 1-week-downtime on live either. So imagine the server wouldnt have been down for a week we all would have made some exp. I think the exp event is for getting some "lost time" back.

I think the idea isnt that bad but i dont really care if we get an exp event or not(as long as we dont get exp events every few month).

I just want to play again im so bored :(

Thx for the news Rogean.

Ok, if anything push the Kunark release up a week, along with any other upcoming updates...I'm sorry to complain, but bonus exp is just too WoW or live EQ.

Bones
04-12-2010, 04:24 PM
Relax, It's 50%.. Not double.

True that, Instead of getting 3/4 a blue ill get about a full blue. Not that big a difference. Over the period of the week I guess it will match up perfectly as if it was never down. DDoS'er loses again.
Although honestly, I would be fine without the extra XP, you don't owe us anything extra :)

yaaaflow
04-12-2010, 04:25 PM
I'm a big fan of the chat channels idea, for me personally ooc holds nothing of interest whereas being able to setup channels to discuss shit with groups of people who aren't necessarily in my guild would be excellent.

Thorjorkill
04-12-2010, 04:29 PM
Rog,

I feel like a 5 year old waiting for an ice cream cone. The big question that will be on EVERYONES mind Thursday evening is going to be...

Midnight? 8am? noon? huh? when? now? ARGGH!

I don't expect you to be able to nail this down yet, but...

I'm jones'n man bad... Pass the baggy and a needle!
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Thanks Rogean!
\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/

Rogean
04-12-2010, 04:30 PM
If the server's ready to go, midnight.. I took Friday off. If the server is just getting put online thursday night, probably not until mid-day Friday.

Judgement
04-12-2010, 04:32 PM
I like the idea of chat channels, and I'll tell you why...

I have always been a fan of live auctions. They're a lot of fun and can be quite lucrative. Currently they are impossible, as they generate too much spam in /auc to be practical. Generally only interested parties in a live auction want to view all that.

With chat channels, I could create a live auction channel, and enrollment in that channel could be totally elective. Players could participate in live auctions to matter where they were, or what they were doing (gives you something else to do besides chat during a long camp, for example).

Leaving global /auction intact and as-is would assist those that simply want to sell an item without the time investment of a live auction.

I suppose leaving /ooc global and making /auction zonewide could somewhat achieve the same end, as live auctions could be held in low-pop zones as not to disrupt regular /aucs and communication in general (such as the arena), but I don't see the server pop supporting that at this time unless the event was scheduled in advance, and probably hosted by a guild or guilds to ensure an appreciable quantity of participants. This would also have the obvious disadvantage of isolating markets in a low-pop environment. A high-pop environment, though, is wonderful for market isolation. I remember in '99 on live, I would often get polar bear cloaks from Karg and take them to Faydwer, where they were less common, and could sell them regularly and for more. I had a great time as a traveling entrepreneur selling regional items that way, but I don't feel that is practical here, yet.

Beyond my interest in live auctions, I believe as Finawin said that a number of guilds could benefit from a raid channel through custom chat channels, as not to derail their own guild chat, as raid channels aren't currently supported.

In summary, my vote is:

custom chat channels: please,
global /auc: leave as-is,
global /ooc: leave as-is. Global /ooc helps this server grow by aiding and abetting new players, and I support that.

We can approach the issue of global /auc and /ooc later, when the population is much higher.

Xumosa
04-12-2010, 04:44 PM
yay for exp bonus week :D thats awesome, maybe items that give a little exp bonus for like 1 hour could be handed out to people that donate as well? I don't know just crossed my mind when I read the exp bonus week hehe

Nedala
04-12-2010, 04:45 PM
yay for exp bonus week :D thats awesome, maybe items that give a little exp bonus for like 1 hour could be handed out to people that donate as well? I don't know just crossed my mind when I read the exp bonus week hehe
stop asking for item rewards for donations. it will never happen.

Rogean
04-12-2010, 04:45 PM
We are considering rewards, but it wouldn't be in the form of items.

atvaata
04-12-2010, 04:59 PM
Would chat channels be an acceptable replacement for /ooc and /auc, if we got them working?

Discuss.

Yes Rogean, Chat channels would be a godsend if you all managed to get them working.

It would assist with officer talk in raid guilds for strats, a channel for raid banter (provided we could create)

and altogether wouldnt kill being able to search for a group easily (not everyone uses /lfg on) and/or auction stuff.

Its main useage would be basically officer communication and raiding imo~

ulrich
04-12-2010, 05:04 PM
My opinion: ooc and auc should be shut off for everyone just because this is a classic server. Serverwide chat was never there. It also causes many problems with spammers/perverts. No one has a daughter that plays? We are not all college perverted boys. I know it can be turned off. But than we are at a disadvantage for auctions or groups. I remember doing /who all ranger to put together a raid. I would send tells to setup a pick-up raid. It's just better without a serverwide channel.

Chat channels are not classic either right? You already have VENT and guild chat most of you.

It's like leaving out of combat regen in. It makes everyone's life easier and wastes less time. But it's not classic!! And you could just "turn it off" by not sitting down.

atvaata
04-12-2010, 05:05 PM
Ok, if anything push the Kunark release up a week, along with any other upcoming updates...I'm sorry to complain, but bonus exp is just too WoW or live EQ.

STFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Xumosa
04-12-2010, 05:09 PM
stop asking for item rewards for donations. it will never happen.

this is the 1st time ive ever posted something like that so not really asking numerous times...then again i wasnt even asking it was just a suggestion because i know they are thinking of rewards sorry if it came across as a form of "begging" wasnt my intention..

ulrich
04-12-2010, 05:10 PM
I agree Atvaata!

Too the Exp haters: The server is/was down for over a week. This helps make up for lost time. Most people would of gained a few levels over the last few days.

I agree that maybe it should be for the weekend only, but even at a week it doesn't hurt anything. Since everyone would of been gaining exp for the last week. If the server was running.

Intricus
04-12-2010, 05:14 PM
STFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Well with a response like that, I have a question for you that I have been wondering for weeks, not that i'm giving you any special attention or anything, heh, don't flatter yourself...

If that is you in your avatar, what exactly ARE you??? A tomboy girl, or a very flamboyant male? Just curious. :confused:

Nedala
04-12-2010, 05:20 PM
this is the 1st time ive ever posted something like that so not really asking numerous times...then again i wasnt even asking it was just a suggestion because i know they are thinking of rewards sorry if it came across as a form of "begging" wasnt my intention..

ah well im sorry didnt want to nerdrage on you, i just saw about 20 peebs asking for donation rewards since the server is down ;)

bionicbadger
04-12-2010, 05:33 PM
I agree Atvaata!

Too the Exp haters: The server is/was down for over a week. This helps make up for lost time. Most people would of gained a few levels over the last few days.

I agree that maybe it should be for the weekend only, but even at a week it doesn't hurt anything. Since everyone would of been gaining exp for the last week. If the server was running.

So what if it was down. Is it a race to level 50? Is there a time limit? Do you have to reach level X before a certain date?

mixxit
04-12-2010, 05:34 PM
gutted about the exp bonus

Uonly
04-12-2010, 05:36 PM
:confused: Bonus exp week? WTF with that? There are way more than enough servers that let you cheat! If you wanna lvl to 50 in a day go play WOW! Im pretty sure Im not alone in saying 'I have lots of choices but I play THIS server because its hard'.

So you lost a week of EXP... boo hoo. the game is 10 years old...play another week! Or do we have to wait another 10 years to get a server that dont encourage cheats?

Axion
04-12-2010, 05:43 PM
Giving bonus EXP for a weeks help ensure that the population we left with is the one we will return with. Please make sure you guys understand that before your whine your little heads off.

Finawin
04-12-2010, 05:44 PM
You babies will find anything to cry about, won't you?

"this is ruining my immersion waaaaah"

"50% experience bonus for a week to celebrate the return of the server is ruining my...ummm....I'm retarded and just need something to bitch about waaaaah"

"this makes things easier than they were in classic waaaa"

Alawen Everywhere
04-12-2010, 05:47 PM
Well with a response like that, I have a question for you that I have been wondering for weeks, not that i'm giving you any special attention or anything, heh, don't flatter yourself...

If that is you in your avatar, what exactly ARE you??? A tomboy girl, or a very flamboyant male? Just curious. :confused:

You realize that this is offensive, right? The year is 2010, but even in 1999 there were far more choices than girly girls and manly men. I've been an Atvaata fan since someone tried to start a "who's hotter" thread and she told everyone involved to fuck off.

Poww
04-12-2010, 05:49 PM
"this makes things easier than they were in classic waaaa"

qft. Instead of 2 levels, you MIGHT get 3...

mitic
04-12-2010, 05:50 PM
honestly, some of those posters here should stop searching for reasons to bitch

those 50% are just 7% for me playing as a bard!...oh...wait.....btw...remove class/race-penalty already GDI! $%§&®─║è :p

atvaata
04-12-2010, 05:50 PM
Well with a response like that, I have a question for you that I have been wondering for weeks, not that i'm giving you any special attention or anything, heh, don't flatter yourself...

If that is you in your avatar, what exactly ARE you??? A tomboy girl, or a very flamboyant male? Just curious. :confused:

im a tomgirl you fuck. way to bring looks into the matter.

If that was your only retort you should have not even replied.

Eastwood
04-12-2010, 05:52 PM
Thanks for your efforts and keeping us updated Rogean.

I like the 50% exp bonus, I appreciate it. I know that it will help with retention.

Lately I've been having fun on PEQ, and was getting a little more reluctant to say goodbye to it, but knowing that for a week I will have a bonus while playing my character, you better believe I will be clearing my gaming schedule to take advantage of this to get my character through the 30's while it is a little easier.

So thank you again, I'll be online and taking advantage of the bonus. Bye PEQ, I had fun.

atvaata
04-12-2010, 05:52 PM
You realize that this is offensive, right? The year is 2010, but even in 1999 there were far more choices than girly girls and manly men. I've been an Atvaata fan since someone tried to start a "who's hotter" thread and she told everyone involved to fuck off.

+over 9000

Nobodyx7
04-12-2010, 05:57 PM
i never use forums or anything but here goes. ive been saying we should implement chat channels not to long ago. here's the issue, you have one side saying that server wide chat is killing the classic experience, shrinking the world, and having inappropriate conversations to which i agree with.
ON the other side, people are saying the server isnt big enough to go without channels, that people wont be able to find groups, well, lets find a solution for both.

lets bring /ooc /aucion to only zone wide, then implement only ONE chat channel, only one. one chat channel that you manually have to /join and then its specificlly used for finding groups. this isnt totally classic but deffinetly alot closer, the world wont feel so shrunk, and the argument that the server isnt big enough and poeple wont be able to find groups, people can just /join the group finding channel. and if you wanna say on a social level, it wont be big enough, in classic if you remember you had to find groups and actually talk to people, make friends and join guilds, and if the /auction is zonewide, you would have to go to a populated zone (east commonlands tunnel, freeport, gfay ect)zone where people sold iteams, bringing /auction /ooc to zonewide ACTUALLY forces everyone to be more social. all problems solved, someone comment on this and point out its flaws.

JaVeDK
04-12-2010, 05:58 PM
Rogean while I, and many others I'm sure, appreciate the gesture and intention behind the 50% xp bonus week, I must urge you to reconsider.

In addition to what has so far already been mentioned by others against this, which I agree with, the amount of time and effort invested compared to xp gained has not changed for anyone because of this down time. If people's characters had somehow suffered a roll-back causing them to lose their recent progress, it would be different - but that is not the case.

The unintended consequence of this might be, that people who won't be able to play much next week, will feel cheated or as having 'missed out' compared to others, thus making them sad or annoyed instead of grateful. In essence people will benefit unequally even though everyone "suffered" the same.

However, I'd like thank you and your team for the time, dedication and effort you have been and are puting into this project. You have brought joy to hundreds, maybe even thousands of people, and you should be very proud of that. Kudos!

Sadface
04-12-2010, 06:04 PM
I like the 50% bonus. It might allow the lower levels to catch up to somewhere near what they would have been , had the server not gone down.

I like the idea of adding de mask to assassin's loot table for a week in celebration of this joyous occasion more, though.

harojaro91
04-12-2010, 06:05 PM
I don't like the idea of exp week, probably because I'm already 50 and have no desire to do it over again lol.

On a different note, I really hope this exp bonus is a one time thing, even if the server comes down again. I'm not sure anyone will understand or be familiar with my reference, but during the Korean war, American PoWs were brainwashed through a pretty simple process: getting them to do things they would not normally do one step at a time, eventually building up to make these PoWs become completely irrational and change allegiances to the Korean side.

I guess this will be a better example:Getting a new car and telling your friends not to eat or drink in it. One of your friends asks if they can chew gum, and you don't want to say yes but you comply. Next, someone asks if they can bring a drink in your car, and once again, you don't want to say yes, but you do. Taking that first little step makes one that much more inclined to take another little step.

Anyways, I'm rambling, but the point of this is, The GMs are granting this 50% exp bonus for the downtime. I hope this will be a one time thing, but I worry the GMs may be more easily inclined to grant future exp bonuses or things of this nature. I also saw something about people receiving potential prizes or gifts for their donations. It's fine if we have to pay for this game, which I'd be more than willing to, but trading money for advantages is going to ruin this server and make it like all the other emulated servers.

Hopefully I don't get flamed for this, I'm just expressing my concerns for the well-being of the server.

Adding a source mainly for credibility, so people can't rampantly flame: http://www.psychologistworld.com/influence_personality/brainwashing.php

atvaata
04-12-2010, 06:05 PM
Rogean while I, and many others I'm sure, appreciate the gesture and intention behind the 50% xp bonus week, I must urge you to reconsider.

In addition to what has so far already been mentioned by others against this, which I agree with, the amount of time and effort invested compared to xp gained has not changed for anyone because of this down time. If people's characters had somehow suffered a roll-back causing them to lose their recent progress, it would be different - but that is not the case.

The unintended consequence of this might be, that people who won't be able to play much next week, will feel cheated or as having 'missed out' compared to others, thus making them sad or annoyed instead of grateful. In essence people will benefit unequally even though everyone "suffered" the same.

However, I'd like thank you and your team for the time, dedication and effort you have been and are puting into this project. You have brought joy to hundreds, maybe even thousands of people, and you should be very proud of that. Kudos!

I need to makeup the exp my sk lost from not playing! 50% isnt a huge fucking bonus, you people are acting like its a double week. It's not going to impact much of anything at all which wouldnt of already occured during the servers downtime (level wise).

And why would anyone who might not be able to play during the full exp bonus time (family work ect, i myself work 7-8 hours a day) feel like theyre being cheated? Because they couldnt slam red bulls and power game? That point is quite null im sorry to say.
In fact, it should *please* those folks who dont get alot of time to play seeing as they've lost out on exp gained over the past week (provided they could have been playing).

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Pyrocat
04-12-2010, 06:05 PM
Rogean while I, and many others I'm sure, appreciate the gesture and intention behind the 50% xp bonus week, I must urge you to reconsider.

In addition to what has so far already been mentioned by others against this, which I agree with, the amount of time and effort invested compared to xp gained has not changed for anyone because of this down time. If people's characters had somehow suffered a roll-back causing them to lose their recent progress, it would be different - but that is not the case.

The unintended consequence of this might be, that people who won't be able to play much next week, will feel cheated or as having 'missed out' compared to others, thus making them sad or annoyed instead of grateful. In essence people will benefit unequally even though everyone "suffered" the same.

However, I'd like thank you and your team for the time, dedication and effort you have been and are puting into this project. You have brought joy to hundreds, maybe even thousands of people, and you should be very proud of that. Kudos!

This. This. This. This.

Also it's not classic.

If you're going to mess with exp penalties, why not take away class exp penalties, which is classic (implemented during Velious).

Sadface
04-12-2010, 06:09 PM
I am level 50 and i dont want other people being level 50 so i look cooler please dont give them the bonus !!!! Infact leave the server down for another week or two and then add a negative modifier to exp to slow the newbs down pls

Wut

JaVeDK
04-12-2010, 06:14 PM
I need to makeup the exp my sk lost from not playing!

What are you talking about? You haven't lost a thing, and neither have anyone else. You have put in zero effort or time, and you expect something in return? You should be glad you had a little extra time on your hands this week, cleaning the house, studying, making some extra cash, getting that haircut you so desperately needed etc.

atvaata
04-12-2010, 06:14 PM
I don't like the idea of exp week, probably because I'm already 50 and have no desire to do it over again lol.

On a different note, I really hope this exp bonus is a one time thing, even if the server comes down again. I'm not sure anyone will understand or be familiar with my reference, but during the Vietnam war, American PoWs were brainwashed through a pretty simple process: getting them to do things they would not normally do one step at a time, eventually building up to make these PoWs become completely irrational and change allegiances to the Vietcong.

I guess this will be a better example:Getting a new car and telling your friends not to eat or drink in it. One of your friends asks if they can chew gum, and you don't want to say yes but you comply. Next, someone asks if they can bring a drink in your car, and once again, you don't want to say yes, but you do. Taking that first little step makes one that much more inclined to take another little step.

Anyways, I'm rambling, but the point of this is, The GMs are granting this 50% exp bonus for the downtime. I hope this will be a one time thing, but I worry the GMs may be more easily inclined to grant future exp bonuses or things of this nature. I also saw something about people receiving potential prizes or gifts for their donations. It's fine if we have to pay for this game, which I'd be more than willing to, but trading money for advantages is going to ruin this server and make it like all the other emulated servers.

Hopefully I don't get flamed for this, I'm just expressing my concerns for the well-being of the server.

JUICE?! THE MOST EPIC TANK EVER?!

Well lets look at this point by point.
1) you should prob do 1-50 again, sorry juiceman

2)what the fuck do the techniques implemented by the viet-cong have to do with this server and the tactics rogean and co employ? http://www.akacrasher.com/stuff/FAIL/Failboat.jpg

3)future bonuses? This has been the first "bonus" and is only because we got juwed from a ddos kiddy, when we couldve been exp'ing 4-5 days before the server move.

4)in regards to donating for in-game items/advantages, this has been STATED BY THE DEVS IT WONT HAPPEN.

Sadface
04-12-2010, 06:16 PM
This. This. This. This.

Also it's not classic.

If you're going to mess with exp penalties, why not take away class exp penalties, which is classic (implemented during Velious).

Implement having to stare at your spellbook to med ASAP.

Pyro demands that we keep things classic. Everyone can thank him personally when the GM's fix this.

harojaro91
04-12-2010, 06:17 PM
1. Thanks for your concern
2. If you would read the article i posted, and understood English, you may get it.
3. I didn't say they WOULD implement future bonuses, the whole point of my reply was how this may be the first stepping-stone to grant more bonuses.
4. We are considering rewards, but it wouldn't be in the form of items.

Intricus
04-12-2010, 06:18 PM
im a tomgirl you fuck. way to bring looks into the matter.

If that was your only retort you should have not even replied.

If that big, long, obnoxious, immature, and uncalled for "STFU" retort was your only retort, then you should have not replied. And for the sake of others sensitivity to annoyance, you should have turned your caps-lock key off before you did. take a look around, I am not the only person who objects to the 50% exp bonus.

By the way I have started a thread on the bonus. I put it under 'Rants and Flames', which is where I think it will be most appropriate.

atvaata
04-12-2010, 06:18 PM
What are you talking about? You haven't lost a thing, and neither have anyone else. You have put in zero effort or time, and you expect something in return? You should be glad you had a little extra time on your hands this week, cleaning the house, studying, making some extra cash, getting that haircut you so desperately needed etc.

I need a haircut? Shut the fuck up, my hair is short for a girl.

And as a matter of fact, due to not being able to log on, we did indeed lose exp we could have "potentially" gained.. Items ect.

And as for the cleaning the house/studying comment, my boyfriend does that tyvm since i make him dinner every night and have graduated culinary school and BRING HOME THE $$

atvaata
04-12-2010, 06:24 PM
If that big, long, obnoxious, immature, and uncalled for "STFU" retort was your only retort, then you should have not replied. And for the sake of others sensitivity to annoyance, you should have turned your caps-lock key off before you did. take a look around, I am not the only person who objects to the 50% exp bonus.

By the way I have started a thread on the bonus. I put it under 'Rants and Flames', which is where I think it will be most appropriate.

Actually i have a much longer retort relating to your insecurities in having to bring peoples looks into the matter but i just went with the cruise control for cool method.

Sadface
04-12-2010, 06:25 PM
I agree with everything Atvaata says cause for some reason her username reminds me of this awesome song :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYQUsp-jxDQ

atvaata
04-12-2010, 06:25 PM
1. Thanks for your concern
2. If you would read the article i posted, and understood English, you may get it.
3. I didn't say they WOULD implement future bonuses, the whole point of my reply was how this may be the first stepping-stone to grant more bonuses.
4.

http://www.bartcop.com/grammar-nazi2.jpg

besides this nobody cares what the worst tank on the server has to say., hence why i didnt really read it.
afk another half hour please.

Intricus
04-12-2010, 06:27 PM
You realize that this is offensive, right? The year is 2010, but even in 1999 there were far more choices than girly girls and manly men. I've been an Atvaata fan since someone tried to start a "who's hotter" thread and she told everyone involved to fuck off.

Look, I don't really care about Atvaata's female PMS-nerd rage, or you worshipping it. And as for me being 'offensive', considering my position in real life right now, working my ass off at my job so that I may one day get my own place, I am offended every time I read or hear a 'so-and-so is a loser who lives in their mothers basement' pun, yet I laugh it off and deal with it, just about every time. I suggest you do the same.

harojaro91
04-12-2010, 06:27 PM
Lol, very mature Atvaata! /applaud

atvaata
04-12-2010, 06:28 PM
I agree with everything Atvaata says cause for some reason her username reminds me of this awesome song
Your faction with Atvaata00 has gotten better!

Sadface
04-12-2010, 06:28 PM
Look, I don't really care about Atvaata's female PMS-nerd rage, or you worshipping it. And as for me being 'offensive', considering my position in real life right now, working my ass off at my job so that I may one day get my own place, I am offended every time I read or hear a 'so-and-so is a loser who lives in their mothers basement' pun, yet I laugh it off and deal with it, just about every time. I suggest you do the same.

Cool story bro

You need some more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYQUsp-jxDQ

atvaata
04-12-2010, 06:28 PM
Lol, very mature Atvaata! /applaud

*waits for juice to rage quit on a thread as he does groups*

JaVeDK
04-12-2010, 06:29 PM
I need a haircut? Shut the fuck up, my hair is short for a girl.

And as a matter of fact, due to not being able to log on, we did indeed lose exp we could have "potentially" gained.. Items ect.

And as for the cleaning the house/studying comment, my boyfriend does that tyvm since i make him dinner every night and have graduated culinary school and BRING HOME THE $$

I apologize, I thought you were a boy, really, I'm sorry.

As for what you "could have potentially gained", that is just silly. Do you want bonus xp the next time you're sick and can't play? Everyone are in the same boat, and why are you in such a hurry? This kind of attitude is exactly why most mmorpgs fail. The dev's listen too much to the vocal and spoiled players and their 'gimme' mindset, making the games easier and more 'convenient', thus in the end cheapening the experience and ruining any real sense of accomplishment. People don't know what they really want, so don't give them a say :p

mixxit
04-12-2010, 06:30 PM
one day you'll look back on your posts on web.archive.org and realise how much you self-failed

Bones
04-12-2010, 06:30 PM
Rogean while I, and many others I'm sure, appreciate the gesture and intention behind the 50% xp bonus week, I must urge you to reconsider.

In addition to what has so far already been mentioned by others against this, which I agree with, the amount of time and effort invested compared to xp gained has not changed for anyone because of this down time. If people's characters had somehow suffered a roll-back causing them to lose their recent progress, it would be different - but that is not the case.

The unintended consequence of this might be, that people who won't be able to play much next week, will feel cheated or as having 'missed out' compared to others, thus making them sad or annoyed instead of grateful. In essence people will benefit unequally even though everyone "suffered" the same.

However, I'd like thank you and your team for the time, dedication and effort you have been and are puting into this project. You have brought joy to hundreds, maybe even thousands of people, and you should be very proud of that. Kudos!

Couldn't have said this better myself. However, I still am content with any decision you choose to go with, extra EXP or not.

atvaata
04-12-2010, 06:33 PM
I apologize, I thought you were a boy, really, I'm sorry.

As for what you "could have potentially gained", that is just silly. Do you want bonus xp the next time you're sick and can't play? Everyone are in the same boat, and why are you in such a hurry? This kind of attitude is exactly why most mmorpgs fail. The dev's listen too much to the vocal and spoiled players and their 'gimme' mindset, making the games easier and more 'convenient', thus in the end cheapening the experience and ruining any real sense of accomplishment. People don't know what they really want, so don't give them a say :p

Newp, if im sick and cant play I miss out meestah. Im not in such a hurry, im just appreciating rogeans method(s)s while you fagfairys are trying to undermine what he deems best!
I certainly didnt suggest double exp, but if our mighty Throgean says it, I shall defend it.

oyah. THIS ISNT MAKING THE GAME EASIER/MAKING ACCOMPLISHMENTS ANY EASIER GAINED. Get that through yer manly-skull. ROGEAN DOESNT GIVE A FUCK WHAT WE THINK.

Which is why i love him.

Pyrocat
04-12-2010, 06:34 PM
Implement having to stare at your spellbook to med ASAP.

Pyro demands that we keep things classic. Everyone can thank him personally when the GM's fix this.

troll harder

Intricus
04-12-2010, 06:36 PM
Actually i have a much longer retort relating to your insecurities in having to bring peoples looks into the matter but i just went with the cruise control for cool method.

Okay, well do me a favor young man, put that cruise control into FORWARD, off of a cliff, will you, please? Pardon me, I meant to say young lady...

atvaata
04-12-2010, 06:36 PM
Look, I don't really care about Atvaata's female PMS-nerd rage, or you worshipping it. And as for me being 'offensive', considering my position in real life right now, working my ass off at my job so that I may one day get my own place, I am offended every time I read or hear a 'so-and-so is a loser who lives in their mothers basement' pun, yet I laugh it off and deal with it, just about every time. I suggest you do the same.

I dont recall ever saying that about you. I can understand we all have hard times in this day and age but your arguement is still null :P

Isphet
04-12-2010, 06:38 PM
I vote for no EXP bonus this weekend to preserve the integrity of P1999.

But I'm cool with it if you still have the bonus XP week. Because I'm off all weekend and the wife is even out of town visiting family, so I'll take full advantage, fo sho.

Just because you prefer one choice to another, that doesn't mean the other choices are all bad. That's how 2 year olds argue.

oldhead
04-12-2010, 06:43 PM
Dear Rogean,
My thoughts on exp bonus and chat channels as a new comer to this server with only a level 14 and level 5.

Please do not give the 50% exp bonus. Extend Kunark by a month but dont give us "easy mode". Remember why we like EQ and what makes this server special to us. Do reconsider.

As for OOC and AUC global removal. I would like to see this. I understand with a low population why it is needed but even as it is with 500+ online I would like to see it removed.
If you are worried that new comers like myself wont be able to make it... dont. We will.
If you must give us something, auto start us in a noob guild like on SoD. I personally thought that was a great idea.

Great work on the server. Glad you are able to get it up this Friday and hopefully keep it up. A classic server is a dream come true to me... even if its not 100% classic.

xshayla701
04-12-2010, 06:46 PM
*waits for juice to rage quit on a thread as he does groups*

you realize all you're doing is making everyone laugh? stfuuuu already girlfran

atvaata
04-12-2010, 07:04 PM
you realize all you're doing is making everyone laugh? stfuuuu already girlfran

I like making people laugh at my craziness :D so thank you for the compliment... giiiirrrllllfraaannnnnnnn

jilena
04-12-2010, 07:20 PM
I for one most definetely have to disagree with, and am actually somewhat offended by that statement. I am not the most social person in PJ99, and I don't have a recognizable name due to the fact that I make a name for myself with my online personality
...but my toon is only level 20, and I am almost fully magical-geared, due to soloing mobs that drop decent loot/coin..I don't think if I grouped constantly I would have been able to do this, due to the fact that sharing loot and items would be involved. And if you can group at low levels and do what I have done soloing, then I could only assume you became so close to somebody with a level 50 main, and bonded with them so much, that they logged in their main and gave you some hand-me-down-gear. Call me selfish, but honestly my main inititiave wasn't to group and make friends while playing this game, rather was making a character from scratch, and gearing him out with decent loot, all the while seeing if I could SOLO original EQ content, from level 1-50. As I said I'm only level 20, and I've been able to do that so far. Lot of deaths, and some frustration, I get lonely at times and want to group every now and then, but when alls said and done, I can do what I set out to do, and enjoy it.

While this is a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER game, this isn't a chat room. I can't understand why something is 'wrong' with somebody who enjoys soloing.

Uhh, if you are farming coin to buy gear then you are interracting with people. Also, this game is not exactly challenging unless maybe you are trying to solo a warrior to 50 at which point the challenge is staying awake as you sit for 30 minutes between kills.

I will never understand why in every single MMO a handful of people will always rage out about people having fun/having conversations about things that aren't necessarily related to the game. Even when the conversations aren't vulgar, sexual, or insulting anyones color, creed, religion etc someone will STILL get offended. If you are really THAT into RP and it's ruining your immersion, turn the channel off, it's called OUT OF CHARACTER for a reason. *shrug*

Also, it really is a chat room. The "game" aspect of any MMO is pretty lacking without the "chat room" aspect. Just saying.

jilena
04-12-2010, 07:21 PM
Oh and +1 in support of Atvaata's good half.

Olorin
04-12-2010, 07:22 PM
Oh and +1 in support of Atvaata's good half.

Atvaata's good half?

Oxymoron, I believe :)

atvaata
04-12-2010, 07:28 PM
Atvaata's good half?

Oxymoron, I believe :)

I have a good half! When im not trolling harhar XD

Olorin
04-12-2010, 07:38 PM
I don't like the idea of exp week, probably because I'm already 50 and have no desire to do it over again lol.

On a different note, I really hope this exp bonus is a one time thing, even if the server comes down again. I'm not sure anyone will understand or be familiar with my reference, but during the Korean war, American PoWs were brainwashed through a pretty simple process: getting them to do things they would not normally do one step at a time, eventually building up to make these PoWs become completely irrational and change allegiances to the Korean side.

I guess this will be a better example:Getting a new car and telling your friends not to eat or drink in it. One of your friends asks if they can chew gum, and you don't want to say yes but you comply. Next, someone asks if they can bring a drink in your car, and once again, you don't want to say yes, but you do. Taking that first little step makes one that much more inclined to take another little step.

Anyways, I'm rambling, but the point of this is, The GMs are granting this 50% exp bonus for the downtime. I hope this will be a one time thing, but I worry the GMs may be more easily inclined to grant future exp bonuses or things of this nature. I also saw something about people receiving potential prizes or gifts for their donations. It's fine if we have to pay for this game, which I'd be more than willing to, but trading money for advantages is going to ruin this server and make it like all the other emulated servers.

Hopefully I don't get flamed for this, I'm just expressing my concerns for the well-being of the server.

Adding a source mainly for credibility, so people can't rampantly flame: http://www.psychologistworld.com/influence_personality/brainwashing.php

Haha, Juice talking about the ruining of the server -- when he doe more to contribute to people leaving than any other 20 people combined. Lets take a little test --

To which character do all of the following apply?

1) Frequent ragequits groups leaving them with no tank, sometimes taking shaman bot with him.
2) Kicks people from group for winning rolls on rare, but crappy items that he wanted.
3) Gets kicked from guild(s) after exhibiting behavior #2 above.
4) Admits on multiple occassions to 2 boxing (btw 2 boxing means controlling 2 characters at the same time, not necessarily on the same computer).
5) Forces groups to reform without him because hes a blithering idiot.

I am sure that this list isnt exhaustive as I these are just the items I witnessed personally before i added Juice to /ignore.

Oh yeah, if you answered Juice, congratulations, you have aced the quiz.

Judgement
04-12-2010, 07:45 PM
I remember on the NMA-Fallout forums when FO3 was announced being impressed by the incredibly volatile fanbase...like every post was a ragepost.

I think we may actually be able to compete with them here in terms of raw hostility. grats p1999, haha.

xorbier
04-12-2010, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Isphet
"I vote for no EXP bonus this weekend to preserve the integrity of P1999."

I agree 100%. This is a very bad idea. I am a new member, joining a few weeks prior to the ddos attack. While the experience bonus would be nice, I strongly disagree with it! I believe it it hurts the integrity of the game and once any exception is made to a process it highly increases the chances that others will be made. This is fact.

Another reason is that it's not fair. What if someone is traveling on business next week and unable to play? They waited as long as the rest of us, but why should they miss out on the experience bonus? Plus, if i wanted easy experience I'd stay on the EZ server.

On a side note, excellent job with everything else!!

MogManX44
04-12-2010, 08:17 PM
yeah i agree, an xp bonus, while a nice gesture may be a little too un-classic for most (and this is coming from someone without a level 50)

Sono_hito
04-12-2010, 08:19 PM
well, it will good incentive for us new guys that are just joining. Even if its a little "unclassic"

lamruil
04-12-2010, 08:24 PM
im not 50 yet and definably dont want an XP increase

jilena
04-12-2010, 08:57 PM
I don't really get the whole "unfair" aspect people keep mentioning with regard to the XP bonus. I mean really sometimes I just can't play EQ that day I don't want everyone else to be penalized for my RL getting in the way.

I don't care either way I already hit 50 I just think it's rude to bitch about it when Rogean is basically just trying to say "THANKS" for everyone being patient and putting up with this bullshit. It's a nice gesture and hardly game breaking. *shrug*

Malavan
04-12-2010, 08:58 PM
I haven't played a single bit yet on this server, because I only found out about it during this downtime period. That said, an XP bonus for a week is just stupid. The whole idea of p99 to me is that it's not for the faint of heart and it's a challenge.

If you want something with an XP bonus, go play WoW

Xantarr
04-12-2010, 09:03 PM
I agree wholeheartedly - I'm definitely against the XP bonus... I even plan on rerolling my main (yea, only level 9, just started, but even so) and still would prefer things to be normal.

Just our 2 cents for future xp bonus notions :]

But besides that, damn happy to have the servers back soon. I am scrambling to get my classic EQ fix...

Malrubius
04-12-2010, 09:04 PM
I voted against the xp bump - since I'm afraid its going to feel a little peq-ish. But it's not a showstopper being only a week.

Hmm...or maybe I'll start an SK alt :D