If you don't read this, you're a cunt.

[Hasbinbad]

Gene Sharp - From Dictatorship To Democracry (http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD.pdf)

[lululalana]

2/10

[Hasbinbad]

You're a cunt.

[Truth]

tl;dr

[Shannacore]

2/10

[Knuckle]

2/10

[Hasbinbad]

You're all materialistic cunts.

[Knuckle]

its true, ive got a laptop and a car.

[Hasbinbad]

..and a lack of understanding for the world around you. Don't forget that.

[Hasbinbad]

..and the attention span of an ADD gnat who didn't take it's ritalin.

[Jerry Garcia]

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374350_295812150449807_100000630738500_1049068_130 4516804_n.jpg

o yes pls

[Maddox]

Good resource and relevant for activists suffering under an oppressive regime. I wouldn't say that someone in the US is a cunt for not reading / caring however.

But.. the United States is a fascist dictatorship according to Hasbinbad, logic following that this publication would have a lot of relevance.

[Hasbinbad]

A fascist government is not required for dictatorship to exist.

Neither is it necessary to have a despot.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist.
-Keyser Söze

[Maddox]

lol @ dictatorship.

Facts or STFU

[Hasbinbad]

OK Smart guy, how do you define "dictatorship?"

[quido]

Let's see how much good your dimwitted pushiness does in the end, hbb.

[Hasbinbad]

Let's see how much good your dimwitted pushiness does in the end, hbb.
What the fuck are you talking about?

Also, why have you been a cunt lately? All those times we shared infoz about drops, I thought we had shipped up hard..

I'm so sad.

[burkemi5]

..and the attention span of an ADD gnat who didn't take it's ritalin.

ADD no longer a disease bro-- ADHD

[Maddox]

OK Smart guy, how do you define "dictatorship?"

Thus sayeth the the dictionary of Hasbinbad:

Dictatorship -

A constitutionally limited government of the representative type, created by a written Constitution & adopted by the people (or electorate thereof) and changeable (from its original intent) by them only by its amendment. Its powers divided between three separate Branches: Executive, Legislative and Judicial. Head of state and other officials are representatives of the people and are bound to govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over all of its citizens. The system is characterized by the majority rule limited under a written constitution safeguarding the rights of the individual and the minority...

[Diggles]

dicktatorship isn't cool no one likes dicktators.

[Hasbinbad]

Thus sayeth the the dictionary of Hasbinbad:

Dictatorship -

A constitutionally limited government of the representative type, created by a written Constitution & adopted by the people (or electorate thereof) and changeable (from its original intent) by them only by its amendment. Its powers divided between three separate Branches: Executive, Legislative and Judicial. Head of state and other officials are representatives of the people and are bound to govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over all of its citizens. The system is characterized by the majority rule limited under a written constitution safeguarding the rights of the individual and the minority...
Theory is often different than reality.

[Maddox]

Theory is often different than reality.

again... facts or STFU

[vaylorie]

Hah.. Hasbinbad owned by constitutional republic... welcome to America...

[Diggles]

god bless the gods of french fries and vaylories fat ass

[Hasbinbad]

again... facts or STFU
I asked you a fairly simple question so as to provide facts within a framework, but you decided that honest attempt at discourse was too much trouble and trollololed it away. Then you accuse me of bullshitting.

I would be surprised, but this is actually very typical; a head-in-the-sand circular-argumentation tactic used by many "patriots" in this country, many of whom couldn't tell you who is on the front and what is on the back of the $2 bill without the assistance of google.

Try your batshit-crazy on someone who doesn't know better, kthx.

[Diggles]

I would like to respond to our government's holier-than-thou attitudes. Here's the story: Our national media is controlled by negligent parvenus. That's why you probably haven't heard that if our government had done its homework, it'd know that it dreams of a time when they'll be free to pose a threat to personal autonomy and social development. That's the way it's planned it, and that's the way it'll happen—not may happen but will happen—if we don't interfere, if we don't focus on the major economic, social, and political forces that provide the setting for the expression of a tendentious agenda.

Blindly following, never asking questions, our government's lapdogs incorporate our government's silly and anger-filled tirades as their own. It becomes impossible to change their views merely by explaining that our government's criticisms of my letters have never successfully disproved a single fact I ever presented. Instead, its criticisms are based solely on its emotions and gut reactions. Well, I refuse to get caught up in our government's "I think … I believe … I feel" game. Have you ever stopped to consider the enormous havoc and ruin that has been wrought in this world by our government and its expositors? I have. That's why I say that I think that whenever it wants to rot out the foundations of our religious, moral, and political values, it merely yanks its chums' puppet strings and gets them to make higher education accessible only to those in the higher echelons of society. You probably think that too. But our government does not think that. Our government thinks that one can understand the elements of a scientific theory only by reference to the social condition and personal histories of the scientists involved.

Is our government's head really buried too deep in the sand to know that the big parlor game among its spokesmen is guessing which of them was the first to produce a large number of totally irritating extravagancies, most insolent indecencies, and, above all, the most vainglorious blasphemies against everything that I hold most sacred and most dear? Apparently, even know-it-all our government doesn't know the answer to that one. It wouldn't matter if it did, given that either it has no real conception of the sweep of history, or it is merely intent on winning some debating pin by trying to pierce a hole in my logic with "facts" that are taken out of context. Our government parrots whatever ideas are fashionable at the moment. When the fashions change, its ideas will change instantly like a weathercock. Our government wants nothing less than to exclude all people and proposals that oppose its indecent flimflams. Its drones then wonder, "What's wrong with that?" Well, there's not much to be done with quixotic petty-types who can't figure out what's wrong with that, but the rest of us can plainly see that our government cannot tolerate the world as it is. It needs to live in a world of fantasies. To be more specific, sappy saboteurs serve as the priests in our government's cult of combative, mendacious philistinism. These "priests" spend their days basking in our government's reflected glory, pausing only when our government instructs them to sweep its peccadillos under the rug. What could be more blockish? I hardly know. But I will stake the immortality of my soul that my dream is for tired eyes to open and see clearly, broken spirits to find new energy, and weary arms to find the strength to restore the world back to its original balance. We may never learn the answers to some of the more vexing questions surrounding our government's motives. Never forget that and never let our government make my blood curdle.

[Hasbinbad]

tite

[pickled_heretic]

there's nothing unpatriotic about finding things that suck about this country and wanting to improve them.

do you really think everything is perfect here? who cares if it's better here than in cambodia or whatever fuckhole you mention, can't it be even better than that?

[Diggles]

long live the empire

[Hasbinbad]

again... facts or STFU
How's this for facts?

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/26/us-senate-to-vote-on-bill-that-will-allow-the-military-to-arrest-americans-on-american-soil-and-hold-them-indefinitely/

[Paul McCartney]

I would like to respond to our government's holier-than-thou attitudes. Here's the story: Our national media is controlled by negligent parvenus. That's why you probably haven't heard that if our government had done its homework, it'd know that it dreams of a time when they'll be free to pose a threat to personal autonomy and social development. That's the way it's planned it, and that's the way it'll happen—not may happen but will happen—if we don't interfere, if we don't focus on the major economic, social, and political forces that provide the setting for the expression of a tendentious agenda.

Blindly following, never asking questions, our government's lapdogs incorporate our government's silly and anger-filled tirades as their own. It becomes impossible to change their views merely by explaining that our government's criticisms of my letters have never successfully disproved a single fact I ever presented. Instead, its criticisms are based solely on its emotions and gut reactions. Well, I refuse to get caught up in our government's "I think … I believe … I feel" game. Have you ever stopped to consider the enormous havoc and ruin that has been wrought in this world by our government and its expositors? I have. That's why I say that I think that whenever it wants to rot out the foundations of our religious, moral, and political values, it merely yanks its chums' puppet strings and gets them to make higher education accessible only to those in the higher echelons of society. You probably think that too. But our government does not think that. Our government thinks that one can understand the elements of a scientific theory only by reference to the social condition and personal histories of the scientists involved.

Is our government's head really buried too deep in the sand to know that the big parlor game among its spokesmen is guessing which of them was the first to produce a large number of totally irritating extravagancies, most insolent indecencies, and, above all, the most vainglorious blasphemies against everything that I hold most sacred and most dear? Apparently, even know-it-all our government doesn't know the answer to that one. It wouldn't matter if it did, given that either it has no real conception of the sweep of history, or it is merely intent on winning some debating pin by trying to pierce a hole in my logic with "facts" that are taken out of context. Our government parrots whatever ideas are fashionable at the moment. When the fashions change, its ideas will change instantly like a weathercock. Our government wants nothing less than to exclude all people and proposals that oppose its indecent flimflams. Its drones then wonder, "What's wrong with that?" Well, there's not much to be done with quixotic petty-types who can't figure out what's wrong with that, but the rest of us can plainly see that our government cannot tolerate the world as it is. It needs to live in a world of fantasies. To be more specific, sappy saboteurs serve as the priests in our government's cult of combative, mendacious philistinism. These "priests" spend their days basking in our government's reflected glory, pausing only when our government instructs them to sweep its peccadillos under the rug. What could be more blockish? I hardly know. But I will stake the immortality of my soul that my dream is for tired eyes to open and see clearly, broken spirits to find new energy, and weary arms to find the strength to restore the world back to its original balance. We may never learn the answers to some of the more vexing questions surrounding our government's motives. Never forget that and never let our government make my blood curdle.

Snoop is NO don. He is a little tweaker studio gangster who has been marketed and sold like a little bitch. A fake pimp, fake gangster, fake g. gay ass family show having snitch ass bitch. pac hated snoop at the end, he didnt even get his back against them bunk ass new york kids. fuck badboy as a staff and a crew. What America thinks Snoop is, Mac Dre was. CAREER ROBBERY. E40, SNOOP, AND MAC MALL ALL STOLE MAC DRE'S CAREER. 2PAC AND MAC DRE ARE CALI'S "DONS"

[Hasbinbad]

don't forget eazy

[Truth]

its the downest ***** i kno

ez muthaphukkn ME

[vaylorie]

How's this for facts?

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/26/us-senate-to-vote-on-bill-that-will-allow-the-military-to-arrest-americans-on-american-soil-and-hold-them-indefinitely/

This is all you could come up with.. a bill that you (or your liberal rags) didn't actually read or have malicious intention to blow out of proportion? Also, one that is still pending a vote, but not the point.

Go read the actual bill and come back. (specifically sections 1031-1033 that you and your buddies at the ACLU are having a problem with)

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/LegislativeData.php?&n=BillText (pro tip: search for s. 1867)


Here is a quick excerpt for you:
(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

[Hasbinbad]

This message is hidden because vaylorie is on your ignore list (http://www.project1999.org/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[loopholbrook]

tl;dr

[Hasbinbad]

^ Fucking Cunt

[Shannacore]

lol

[Harrison]

Not a single person gives a shit about your crackpot opinions HBB.

[Hasbinbad]

Not a single person gives a shit about my dead brother, who probably cried like a little bitch as he lay there dying, HBB.

[Shannacore]

HBB continues to be a piece o' shit

[Hasbinbad]

Where was your righteous fury when he was wishing ill on people protesting for your rights and future?

OH WAIT

You're an apathetic bitch, who's 2 main goals in life seems to be draining your local governmen for EBT money and garnering attention on the forums of an emulated version of a 12 year old video game to make your existence seem a little less pathetic. If I'm such a piece of shit, like you apparently think it's ok to call me, I should act like one, right? So should I post pictures of your tits or talk openly about the pitiful (probably untrue) stories you used to tell me while crying about how your ex boyfriend used to terrorize you?

[Shannacore]

HBB continues to be a piece o' shit

I'm off EBT btw, have been for a few months. New raise has been treating me well ~

[Shannacore]

Also, I'm pretty unaffected by conversations, photos, and bad decisions I made almost two years ago.

Young dumb girl was young and dumb.

[Hasbinbad]

I'm off EBT
http://i.imgur.com/aPTFf.jpg

[Messianic]

Some messed up crap right here.

[Messianic]

I skimmed the linked pdf. It's actually pretty good. Most of the underlying ideas are why I changed from a basic conservative to a Libertarian (which can be summed up as a proponent of the non-aggression principle). I just don't believe enduring, genuine change ever occurs from some empire trying to "liberate" other countries. You just change dictators after much bloodletting and set back the native people a couple decades from real change by enticing all parties involved to violence at best - and at worst you create colonies which eventually blow up in your face.

People seem to forget that the change of the west from Monarchies and nobles to Constitutional Republics and Social Democracies occurred over hundreds of years and with a lot of cultural and intellectual underpinnings, i.e. Cato the Younger and Plato through Locke and a number of other important figures. You can't just plant it in different soil, with a people of a different language, culture, religion, etc and expect it to work. Go plant Oak Trees in the Gobi desert and see how well they do.

As far as supporting the attempt of a people to change their own government (as in Libya), supporting them militarily is in effect declaring war against another country to changes its regime, which I also oppose.

[purest]

So should I post pictures of your tits or talk openly about the pitiful (probably untrue) stories you used to tell me while crying about how your ex boyfriend used to terrorize you?

uh ya

[Hasbinbad]

I skimmed the linked pdf. It's actually pretty good.

..

You can't just plant it in different soil, with a people of a different language, culture, religion, etc and expect it to work. Go plant Oak Trees in the Gobi desert and see how well they do.
That's a super bad analogy. Revolutions are not trees.

If you have any doubts as to the effectiveness of nonviolent revolutionary theory as presented by Mr. Sharp, please watch "How To Start A Revolution," a documentary about the effectiveness of this book over time. It starts in Burma, goes to eastern Europe and then into northern Africa, with interviews of some of the most prominent "leaders" of the revolts that happened.. The guy that was the catalyst for the books first printing was/is? a Colonel in the Army (prominently featured in the documentary) who was trying to help the Burmese people revolt into democracy. All of the revolutionaries interviewed give at least partial credit for their revolution to the specific tactics found in the book. I'm not talking about old, tired revolutionary hippies, I'm talking about the young people who actually brought about revolutions in their countries.

These methods are honestly beyond any cultural boundries. They are universally applicable and will be effective wherever they are taken seriously. The book is couched in terms of black vs. white - dictatorship vs. democracy, because it was written specifically for the burmese people (the book is actually a somewhat hasty consolidation of Gene Sharp's lecture career at Harvard) but obviously can be applied to any of the shades of grey which exist in reality today.

[Messianic]

That's a super bad analogy. Revolutions are not trees.

If you have any doubts as to the effectiveness of nonviolent revolutionary theory as presented by Mr. Sharp, please watch "How To Start A Revolution," a documentary about the effectiveness of this book over time. It starts in Burma, goes to eastern Europe and then into northern Africa, with interviews of some of the most prominent "leaders" of the revolts that happened.. The guy that was the catalyst for the books first printing was/is? a Colonel in the Army (prominently featured in the documentary) who was trying to help the Burmese people revolt into democracy. All of the revolutionaries interviewed give at least partial credit for their revolution to the specific tactics found in the book. I'm not talking about old, tired revolutionary hippies, I'm talking about the young people who actually brought about revolutions in their countries.

These methods are honestly beyond any cultural boundries. They are universally applicable and will be effective wherever they are taken seriously. The book is couched in terms of black vs. white - dictatorship vs. democracy, because it was written specifically for the burmese people (the book is actually a somewhat hasty consolidation of Gene Sharp's lecture career at Harvard) but obviously can be applied to any of the shades of grey which exist in reality today.

My analogy wasn't with regard to nonviolent revolution described in the PDF - its with regard to violent, foreign intervention to "spread democracy," "Make the world safe for democracy," or some such nonsense. Guns and militaries have a real purpose, but it's not to spread an ideology or to be "a global force for good" or whatever you call military force nowadays.

[Hasbinbad]

Why did you quote my entire post if you were only going to address the first sentence?

[Hasbinbad]

OMG THIS SENTENCE HAS TO DO WITH ME, MUST IGNORE EVERYTHING ELSE!!

[Messianic]

Why did you quote my entire post if you were only going to address the first sentence?

Cause I was too lazy to chop out the rest. I figured my response would be self-explanatory...but it obviously wasn't as clear as I meant it to be. I'm trying to waste as little time on the forums as possible (and still keep up with things) while I get work done...

OMG THIS SENTENCE HAS TO DO WITH ME, MUST IGNORE EVERYTHING ELSE!!

I read the other parts you wrote - I didn't feel the need to address them since I wasn't disputing them - I agree with them.

[Hasbinbad]

Oh.

Well..

Oh.

Ok, I'll shut up now.

[Hasbinbad]

Ban evade more pls.

[Falisaty]

Has Been Bad... tin foil hat buddy might want to take that off every once in a while and let your brain breath... oxygen helps keep the dainbramage away. That being said love it or leave it NO one and i mean NO one is forcing you to live in the Greatest country on earth IMHO ( wouldnt want to live any where else) well maybe Jamaica <--- smoking pot is legal their. if someone was forcing you to do anything then you could call it a dictatorship.

[Hasbinbad]

Has Been Bad... tin foil hat buddy might want to take that off every once in a while and let your brain breath... oxygen helps keep the dainbramage away. That being said love it or leave it NO one and i mean NO one is forcing you to live in the Greatest country on earth IMHO ( wouldnt want to live any where else) well maybe Jamaica <--- smoking pot is legal their. if someone was forcing you to do anything then you could call it a dictatorship.
I love it honestly.

I've wrestled with that notion for a long time, and it wasn't until a large group of people started speaking sense that I settled on the answer. What I love tho is the concepts and theories opposed to the reality. In stark contrast to the ideas this country was formed on, the people who've been running this country for the last few decades have been corrupt.

If you're going to argue that, I feel bad for you.

Our freedom and our way of life has been eroded slowly, at a pace that is hardly noticeable unless you compare lifestyles across a ~50 year period. This is factual. Indisputable.

So, if I'm not going to leave it, I am going to fulfill my part of the bargain struck between myself as a citizen and the founding documents of this country. The "right and responsibility," and all that. You know.. ..what these right wing fucktards call "that hippie revolutionary nonsense."

http://i.imgur.com/Xqvri.jpg

[Autotune]

Where was your righteous fury when he was wishing ill on people protesting for your rights and future?

OH WAIT

You're an apathetic bitch, who's 2 main goals in life seems to be draining your local governmen for EBT money and garnering attention on the forums of an emulated version of a 12 year old video game to make your existence seem a little less pathetic. If I'm such a piece of shit, like you apparently think it's ok to call me, I should act like one, right? So should I post pictures of your tits or talk openly about the pitiful (probably untrue) stories you used to tell me while crying about how your ex boyfriend used to terrorize you?


Also, I'm pretty unaffected by conversations, photos, and bad decisions I made almost two years ago.

Young dumb girl was young and dumb.

HBB's bluff got called.

[Hasbinbad]

Not really. She finished her little self-righteous tantrum, and then shut the fuck up.

[Shannacore]

HBB: Still a piece o' shit

[Diggles]

Diggles: Why do I know what Lady Death is

[Harrison]

Has anyone given a shit what HBB thinks yet? No? That's what I thought. Useless human excrement.

[Hasbinbad]

Hey Harrison, how many toilets under the lawn is your useless fuck of a dead brother?

[Diggles]

-edgy post-

[pickled_heretic]

HEY DIGGLES I HEARD AN EARTHWORM SKULLFUCKED UR GRANDMA LAST NITE

[Diggles]

ACTUAllY it was an
ALASKAN
http://images.wikia.com/spongebob/images/0/0c/Alaskan_bullworm.jpg
BULL WORM

[Hailto]

Isn't hasbin too old to still act like an angsty teenager?

[Hailto]

Also,talking shit about someone's dead family members? That's pretty classy. You're really fitting the bill of a full fledged lib-tard now, congratulations.

[Harrison]

Eh, that guy is off his rocker anyways. There's a dozen or more posts of him flying off the handle because no one but some uneducated illiterate retards from VZTZ agree with his crackpot stupidity.

Search for the post where he says everyone in the military should die, it's a classic.

[Hasbinbad]

Search for the post where Harrison claims to be a combat medic, it's a classic.

Search for the post where Harrison is proved to be 2.5 toilets high, it's a classic.

[Harrison]

Useless drain on society rages more, new stuff here.

OCCUPY LOL GIVE ME FREE MONEY BECAUSE I AM MAD I HAVE BEEN IN SCHOOL FOR A FUCKING DECADE AND IN MASSIVE DEBT

[degenvf]

Gene Sharp - From Dictatorship To Democracry (http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD.pdf)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIaLwlA4JEk

[Hasbinbad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIaLwlA4JEk
Yeah, that shit is scary for sure. That's a smart guy.

"The war in Iraq. A disgusting event. When I heard Rumsfeld talking about 'Shock and Awe..' Oh let's everybody go home, watch on television: 'Shock and Awe.' As if it was a fourth of July fireworks. THERE ARE PEOPLE UNDER THAT CONCRETE BEING KILLED AND MAIMED. Children and women and men dying for no reason. For no reason."

/hangsheadinshame

[Autotune]

have no fear bros

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8On7rktFZME" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

there is hope for you all yet.

[Diggles]

Why was Tiggles and I's posts deleted?

gm favoritism towards TR

[Hasbinbad]

When I start posting things which are against the rules, and you start reporting me, and my posts are deleted, you will probably see that it isn't favoritism.

[Tiggles]

Yeah HBB is a sis.

Always has been

[Truth]

Gene Sharp - From Dictatorship To Democracry (http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD.pdf)

Sophisticated simple troll. Posts million word book and doesn't give even a one sentence criticism of it.

[Hasbinbad]

Sophisticated simple troll. Posts million word book and doesn't give even a one sentence criticism of it.
It's a very short book. You can read it during one shit session.

Basically, it details how to start a non-violent revolution. The main thing to gain from it is the list of 198 specific non-violent revolutionary actions. This is deceptively simple, and you really should watch the associated documentary "How To Start A Revolution" on Current TV to see how effective it has been and can be. In the documentary, the "leaders" from several revolutions (Otpor, Orange, Egypt, etc.) give partial credit to Gene Sharp for liberating their countries, even though he never had anything to do with those revolutions. The ideas are the powerful thing. Read it.

[Truth]

your synopsis was still too large for my attention span

[Hasbinbad]

wurds mekkinz u sm4rt 2 headshot 3v!l 3mp!r3

[Hailto]

Hasbin confirmed piece of shit.

[visage]

Useless drain on society rages more, new stuff here.

OCCUPY LOL GIVE ME FREE MONEY BECAUSE I AM MAD I HAVE BEEN IN SCHOOL FOR A FUCKING DECADE AND IN MASSIVE DEBT

Confirmed ~ Still fat.

[Humerox]

Our freedom and our way of life has been eroded slowly, at a pace that is hardly noticeable unless you compare lifestyles across a ~50 year period. This is factual. Indisputable.


Hardly noticeable? Slowly?

2001 and the Patriot Act. Biggest blow to individual rights ever.

The Patriot Act broadly expands the official definition of
terrorism, so that many domestic groups that engage in
nonviolent civil disobedience could very well find themselves
labeled as terrorists.

Government agents may now monitor the First Amendmentprotected
activities of religious and political institutions, and
then infiltrate these groups with no suspicion of criminal
activity.

A U.S. Department of Justice directive actively encourages
federal, state, and local officials to resist and/or limit access
to government records through Freedom of Information Act
(FOIA) requests.

Law Enforcement authorities may now conduct secret searches and wiretaps in your home or office without showing “probable cause.” They need only to claim that intelligence gathering is “a significant purpose” of their intrusion, even when the primary goal is ordinary law enforcement. They may also
monitor where and to whom you send and receive e-mail, or where you go on the Internet, recording every e-mail address and website you have been in contact with.

Law Enforcement may now demand any personal records held by any source including your doctor, employer, accountant, or library. All they have to do is claim that it is related to an investigation into “terrorism.” The record keepers may not reveal that your records were provided to the government.


Judicial oversight of secret searches has been effectively minimized. The Patriot Act directs judges to consent to secret searches based only on the Government’s assertion that a “significant” purpose of an investigation is gathering information related to “terrorism,” as the government defines it.

AND NOW THEY'RE ATTACKING THE INTERNET. ( SOPA and PIPA).

Slow and hardly noticeable my ass. People have just been too busy watching Dancing with the Stars or some shit.

[Klath]

2001 and the Patriot Act. Biggest blow to individual rights ever.

Seriously -- and beating out the War on Drugs was no small feat.

I'm still amazed there are people who will rage over welfare yet support locking up people for drug use. Prison is the most expensive form of welfare out there.

Of course, we all know why things like this happen. When people are scared and insecure they tend to suspend some of their critical thinking skills. This makes marketing a "solution" to them a lot easier and politicians take advantage of this all the time. The result is bad policy and infringement on our constitutional rights.

[Loke]

The tyranny of the majority is no more just than the tyranny of one. Neither a dictatorship nor a democracy is desirable in my view. Individuals must interact socially on a voluntary basis, and to me the only solution seems to be complete emancipation from societal constraints that force involuntary interaction. I've already got my 5 year plan in motion to separate myself from society as much as humanly possible (is that irony hasbinbad?). And no, I'm not moving to Alaska or some crazy shit like that to be a hermit, although that doesn't sound all that horrible.

[Klath]

Fortunately, we're not a pure democracy but rather a constitutional republic. In theory, at least, the tyranny of the majority is limited by constitutional protections.

I've already got my 5 year plan in motion to separate myself from society

If you're looking for something solid and defensible, consider getting a decommissioned missile base:

http://www.missilebases.com/

[Loke]

I don't want to separate myself from society really in that way, I just want to interact with people on a voluntary basis. For that reason self sufficiency is my end game. Obviously that isn't completely realistic if you still want the every day comforts of life. Plus, I'm way to social to do one of those completely off the grid type things. I think I've found a pretty happy compromise already. Just need to be a wage slave for a few more years.

[Autotune]

I don't want to separate myself from society really in that way, I just want to interact with people on a voluntary basis. For that reason self sufficiency is my end game. Obviously that isn't completely realistic if you still want the every day comforts of life. Plus, I'm way to social to do one of those completely off the grid type things. I think I've found a pretty happy compromise already. Just need to be a wage slave for a few more years.

chickens and a garden.

[Hasbinbad]

Loke, when you were a wartime special forces bad-ass motherfucker with a big ass gun, did you ever say to yourself:
"I'm so proud that I get the opportunity to risk my life for big time Wall St. bankers to make billions of dollars in personal profits?"
If so, Harrison is right about two things, the other being his opinion of me.
If not, please set "The Entire Community Of Project 1999" straight.

[Hasbinbad]

Here is someone who I imagine to be somewhat similar to Loke (maybe slightly less bad ass), speaking eloquently and to the point of the above post:
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[Loke]

I didn't think those things HBB, but I was also a 19-23 year old with a mediocre high school education and very little direction in life that joined the military primarily because I knew if I didn't I'd get roped into being a druggie burn-out townie. Most of my beliefs while I was in were in line with the shit that comes out of the mouths of neo-con talking heads like Rush and O'riley. So my perspective at that point I don't think is something really worth discussing.

I think what you are getting at is right - there is a power elite in this nation and they are causing irreparable harm to our, and the worlds economy. However, I also think that the average america citizen is really no better. Our lifestyles are subsidized by the loans we receive from other nations. The way I see it, there are really numerous tiers in the chain of exploitation that is going on right now. While the average American isn't at the top, they are much closer to the top than they are the bottom. Both the power elite, and the average American are benefiting from the relationship between the US and other nations right now, however, once the house of cards collapses I think the avverage American is going to be feeling it much harder than those at the top because those at the top knew the whole thing was a farce while most Americans are completely oblivious to what is going on. While that kind of sucks, I don't think the excuse of ignorance will be much solace when simply providing oneself with the basic necessities of life becomes a daily struggle.

Then again, my time in the military did make me slightly pessimistic and taught me to prepare for the worst, so maybe I'm the one who is ignorant.

[Loke]

chickens and a garden.

Pretty much, except I'd replace "chickens" with "fish". :)

[Hasbinbad]

I think what you're getting at is that even though we're the 99% here, we're still the 1% of the world. The vast majority of Occupiers know and acknowledge this.

We have to clean our own house before we'll be in any kind of a position to effect real change elsewhere. Our entire system is set up to support this lifestyle; as long as it exists, perpetuation is inevitable.

Tl;dr:
Wipe it clean.

[Hasbinbad]

Also, did you watch that video?

[Hailto]

That guy in the video deserves to die too because he is a veteran, right HBB?

[Hasbinbad]

That guy in the video deserves to die too because he is a veteran, right HBB?
That's actually not what I said.

He gets my respect.

[Harrison]

Lol moron and a hypocrite.

[Aadill]

I support what Tony Velloza is saying.