Netanyahu Raises Political Will for Iran Invasion. Zionist Press:"Iran Rattles Saber"

[Tommy_Wiseau]

Having successfully forced withdrawal from the disastrous Iraq occupation, our masters have decided our legions will next be sent to topple the Iranian regime. With the Western economy in shambles the Zionist realizes his grasp of power, relative to the growing economic might of the East, depends on another unsustainable influx of petroleum cash predicated on military coercion. Expect another American occupation by early 2012, and perhaps a return to the 2007 boom-times (for our masters anyway - why waste thrown crumbs on this docile populace?) as the spoils of war saturate the Amero-Zionist economy.

As Netanyahu openly beats the war drums, quickly crushing the popular opposition to further imperial activities, the Zionist press accuses Iran of saber rattling. How transparent can this thing get?

Israel Considers Pre-Emptive Attack On Iran (http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16101552)
Iran Rattles Saber at Israel, US
(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/149349#.TrGGfPQr2dA)

[Diggles]

shut the fuck up pls

[Biffins]

shut the fuck up pls

[Misto]

Having successfully forced withdrawal from the disastrous Iraq occupation, our masters have decided our legions will next be sent to topple the Iranian regime. With the Western economy in shambles the Zionist realizes his grasp of power, relative to the growing economic might of the East, depends on another unsustainable influx of petroleum cash predicated on military coercion. Expect another American occupation by early 2012, and perhaps a return to the 2007 boom-times (for our masters anyway - why waste thrown crumbs on this docile populace?) as the spoils of war saturate the Amero-Zionist economy.

As Netanyahu openly beats the war drums, quickly crushing the popular opposition to further imperial activities, the Zionist press accuses Iran of saber rattling. How transparent can this thing get?

Israel Considers Pre-Emptive Attack On Iran (http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16101552)
Iran Rattles Saber at Israel, US
(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/149349#.TrGGfPQr2dA)

Copy + Paste = IMCORRECTYOULEMMINGSNEEDTOLEARNTHETRUTH

[Tommy_Wiseau]

wtf are you talking about i wrote that

[Diggles]

you couldn't write your way out of a justin beiber song

[kalderon]

you couldn't write your way out of a justin beiber song

lol

[Tarathiel]

whats a zion? some kind of new hybrid car or something?

[choklo]

shut the fuck up pls

[Daldolma]

Having successfully forced withdrawal from the disastrous Iraq occupation, our masters have decided our legions will next be sent to topple the Iranian regime. With the Western economy in shambles the Zionist realizes his grasp of power, relative to the growing economic might of the East, depends on another unsustainable influx of petroleum cash predicated on military coercion. Expect another American occupation by early 2012, and perhaps a return to the 2007 boom-times (for our masters anyway - why waste thrown crumbs on this docile populace?) as the spoils of war saturate the Amero-Zionist economy.

As Netanyahu openly beats the war drums, quickly crushing the popular opposition to further imperial activities, the Zionist press accuses Iran of saber rattling. How transparent can this thing get?

Israel Considers Pre-Emptive Attack On Iran (http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16101552)
Iran Rattles Saber at Israel, US
(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/149349#.TrGGfPQr2dA)

If troll, stupid.

If serious, lulz.

[deakolt]

@Diggles, @Biffins: you guys say shut the fuck up please while you sit behind your computer screens playing video games, ignorant of real shit happening in the world. It's dumbfucks like you that make this country suck

[Diggles]

@Diggles, @Biffins: you guys say shut the fuck up please while you sit behind your computer screens playing video games, ignorant of real shit happening in the world. It's dumbfucks like you that make this country suck

That's all fine and good, but I don't care about this shit on a 12 year old emulated game forum. Talk about it in real life or some shit.

[deakolt]

this motherfucker is tryna educate you, thank him kindly

[Diggles]

I read the news for news, not the Project 1999 RnF section

[purest]

this motherfucker is tryna educate you, thank him kindly

[Chanur]

I suppose it has nothing to do Iran supporting our enemies in Iraq, funding the Taliban and supplying them with weapons or paying them for every American they kill. It couldn't have anything to do with them building nuclear weapons against international sanctions or their constant rhetoric. No it must be the secret Zionist powers.

[Daldolma]

I suppose it has nothing to do Iran supporting our enemies in Iraq, funding the Taliban and supplying them with weapons or paying them for every American they kill. It couldn't have anything to do with them building nuclear weapons against international sanctions or their constant rhetoric. No it must be the secret Zionist powers.

Let stupid people be stupid please. The world needs ditch diggers, too. Bush; towers.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

I suppose it has nothing to do Iran supporting our enemies in Iraq, funding the Taliban and supplying them with weapons or paying them for every American they kill. It couldn't have anything to do with them building nuclear weapons against international sanctions or their constant rhetoric. No it must be the secret Zionist powers.

Our enemies in Iraq? I don't have enemies in Iraq.

Building nuclear weapons? The evidence that they are building nukes is as weak as was Saddam's.

This is the exact same rhetoric that has been used to pull us into another disaster in the last decade - you're still buying it?

[Kabilos]

you couldn't write your way out of a justin beiber song

Oh Christ that hurt.. no more drinking while reading RnF.. fucking coke EVERYWHERE

[Daldolma]

Our enemies in Iraq? I don't have enemies in Iraq.

Building nuclear weapons? The evidence that they are building nukes is as weak as was Saddam's.

This is the exact same rhetoric that has been used to pull us into another disaster in the last decade - you're still buying it?

Um, no it's not. There was no evidence that Saddam was building a nuke. There were claims that he was seeking out yellowcake uranium, based on British intelligence, but the CIA's investigation of it -- mainly conducted by Joseph Wilson -- concluded that those claims were false. The other justification, surrounding aluminum tubes, was immediately and unambiguously refuted by the US DoE. US intelligence didn't fail -- it was ignored and misrepresented intentionally. Joseph Wilson wrote a damn op-ed piece saying that the yellowcake claims were bullshit.

The case against Saddam was "Hey, he used to have chemical and biological WMDs and he never got rid of them (even though they've long since expired). He's a totally bad guy. So if he wants to prove he's not a totally bad guy, he would show us where those old (and now worthless) WMDs are. Like, right now. And he's also maybe buying yellowcake and working on a nuke!!!!"

The case against Iran, on the other hand, is rock solid. They have an advanced nuclear program. They've enriched uranium. They've admitted to it, we can see it, there's no denying it. The only ambiguity -- and the ambiguity is in theory, only -- is over the aims of the program. The CIA and Western intelligence have found mountains of evidence of a weapons program, but assuming you don't trust those sources, the IAEA has found evidence that Iran has been researching triggers for nuclear weapons. There is also a new IAEA report coming out that is expected to eliminate any possible doubt over Iran's intentions, in the form of Iranian work on ballistic missiles designed for nuclear warheads.

This is not rhetoric. It's legitimate. I don't care enough to pile up facts for you, but look into it yourself if you actually care. The only shame is that the Iraqi and Afghani offensives have us gun-shy to actually confront a legitimate threat. Out of Afghanistan, Iraq, and Iran, Iran is the only one that actually poses even a mildly serious threat to the United States' interests.

TL;DR - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNq_9vwfSis

[deakolt]

I was just typing a big ol' response to this but then it got lost because I wasn't logged in...

so fuck it.

Believe what you want, but don't take everything you hear/read (even from the IAEA) at face value. The IAEA is by no means an impartial organization.

[Daldolma]

I was just typing a big ol' response to this but then it got lost because I wasn't logged in...

so fuck it.

Believe what you want, but don't take everything you hear/read (even from the IAEA) at face value. The IAEA is by no means an impartial organization.

I love when people say things like "don't take the IAEA at face value". Oh, okay. I won't. I'll go ahead and corroborate their findings myself. Does Southwest fly to Iranian nuclear centrifuge bases?

What is your source of information on the subject? Have you inspected Iranian nuclear reactors? Who is it that you take at face value? There are relatively few parties that would be in a position to present any credible information on Iran's nuclear program. One would be Iran, which has obvious motives for deceit. Another would be the IAEA, which has inspected the program for years. Other credible sources would be the most advanced intelligence agencies in the world, and the governments they work for -- specifically, the US CIA, Israeli Mossad, and British SIS. Given that all these sources, minus Iran, have made parallel reports, it would be reasonable to assume that they are based in fact. That is, unless you believe they have all convened in a massive, multinational conspiracy.

If there's a comprehensive conspiracy which involves the US intelligence departments, the European intelligence departments, the Israeli intelligence departments, the US government, European governments, Israeli government, all major Western news outlets, the Israeli media, the UN, and the IAEA, well then fuck. They got me. For now, I'm just going to go ahead and take the IAEA's report at face value.

[Mardur]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/300163_10150367088679170_235203259169_8015298_1768 751854_n.jpg

[deakolt]

Back in 2003, Condoleezza Rice threatened director general of IAEA with no re-election if he didn't tighten his stance on Iran's nuclear program.

In 2007, this same director general criticized US hardline against Iran as war-mongering. Candoleza told him to "shut the fuck up"

This was also the man who was jointly awarded the Nobel Peace Prize along with the IAEA (of course that doesn't really mean anything).

In 2009, that director general was not re-elected. Just sayin'.

Also, why does Israel get to completely ignore the IAEA as well as the NPT? Many believe they have hundreds of nuclear weapons. ? ? ?

OH YEAH WE ALREADY HAVE OUR PUPPETS IN PLACE IN ISRAEL

[deakolt]

and FUCK the bullshit that it is a matter of national security blah blah blah.

MAD means that the second Iran launches a nuke, tens or hundreds of nukes are coming to blow their country off the face of the planet.

You are ignorant if you believe that the Iranian government is so fanatic that they are willing to sacrifice everything (literally, everything) in an attack-

Furthermore, an invasion of Iran simply breeds more hate of the US in the Arab-speaking world, why not diplomacy? We are just going to proliferate these invasions until we have invaded pretty much anyone who isn't our lackey. fuck yeah Team America

[purest]

nuclear scaremongering, neo-con propaganda, gross exaggerations and straight up fabrications about the "threat" from Iran

[citation needed]

[purest]

1. There is no evidence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program aiming to produce a bomb. [citation (http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf)] [citation (http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/RL34544.pdf)] [citation (http://intelligence.senate.gov/090212/blair.pdf)]

2. Iran has a civilian nuclear enrichment program. This is permitted by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Iran allows United Nations inspections of it nuclear facilities. You could say Iran is not as transparent as the IAEA would like, but there is no dispositive evidence of a weapons program. [citation (http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/npt/text/npt3.htm)]

3. The International Atomic Energy Agency has repeatedly certified that no nuclear material is being diverted to military purposes from Iran’s civilian nuclear enrichment facilities.[citation (http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/118942.html)]

4. The US intelligence establishment doubts that Iran has or wants a nuclear weapons program. [citation (http://www.voanews.com/english/news/US-Defense-Spy-Chief-Iran-Undecided-on-Nuclear-Bomb-81256887.html)]

5. Israeli military intelligence has said Iran has no present nuclear weapons program. [citation (http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArchiveDetails.aspx?ID=234088)]

6. On the other hand, Israel actually has developed between 75-400 nuclear weapons and has refused to sign the NPT despite international pressure to do so, in other words they are in the same boat as North Korea. [citation (http://www.shalomlife.com/eng/13853/Israel_Rejects_Offer_to_Join_UN_Atomic_Agency/)]

7. Israel's nuclear arsenal, the only stock of nuclear warheads in the Middle East, is what drives other countries to attempt to proliferate. [citation (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wikileaks-files/egypt-wikileaks-cables/8326780/DASD-Kahl-Meeting-with-Egyptian-Military-Officials.html)]

tldr: Iran scaremongering is demonstratably 100% bullshit.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

You miss his point: regardless of the evidence, Iran doesn't have a right to legitimate peaceful nuclear tech because it could be easily hijacked. We have the right to intervene and keep these people poor because in their attempt to gain modernity they could challenge our imperial power in the middle-east.

[Daldolma]

and FUCK the bullshit that it is a matter of national security blah blah blah.

MAD means that the second Iran launches a nuke, tens or hundreds of nukes are coming to blow their country off the face of the planet.

You are ignorant if you believe that the Iranian government is so fanatic that they are willing to sacrifice everything (literally, everything) in an attack-

Furthermore, an invasion of Iran simply breeds more hate of the US in the Arab-speaking world, why not diplomacy? We are just going to proliferate these invasions until we have invaded pretty much anyone who isn't our lackey. fuck yeah Team America

You're kidding, right? The value of a nuke isn't in using it. It's in threatening to use it. Iran gets a nuke and they get a seat at the big boy's table of international politics. Moreover, nukes don't come with a return address. Iran hands a nuke to Hezbollah and washes its hands of responsibility. What are you doing when Iran hands a nuke to a non-state actor? Invading? Like we did when we went into Afghanistan for al Qaeda? No. You're not doing shit. It's too late by then. Now, you can get in and out in a month and knock their nuclear program back a decade. Once they've got nuclear warheads, your window is closed.

And who gives a fuck what the Arab-speaking world thinks of us? Planning a trip to Jordan anytime soon? Our popularity there means dick and a half. What matters is military and economic power, and we've got the high ground by a mile in both regards. Let them get a nuke and shit changes real fast.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

blatant 1890s imperialism

It's cool guys; they're brown.

[Harrison]

Moreover, nukes don't come with a return address. Iran hands a nuke to Hezbollah and washes its hands of responsibility.

You don't know how this works do you? lol

[Zugbug]

Oh Christ that hurt.. no more drinking while reading RnF.. fucking coke EVERYWHERE

lol

[Daldolma]

1. There is no evidence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program aiming to produce a bomb. [citation (http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf)] [citation (http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/RL34544.pdf)] [citation (http://intelligence.senate.gov/090212/blair.pdf)]

2. Iran has a civilian nuclear enrichment program. This is permitted by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Iran allows United Nations inspections of it nuclear facilities. You could say Iran is not as transparent as the IAEA would like, but there is no dispositive evidence of a weapons program. [citation (http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/npt/text/npt3.htm)]

3. The International Atomic Energy Agency has repeatedly certified that no nuclear material is being diverted to military purposes from Iran’s civilian nuclear enrichment facilities.[citation (http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/118942.html)]

4. The US intelligence establishment doubts that Iran has or wants a nuclear weapons program. [citation (http://www.voanews.com/english/news/US-Defense-Spy-Chief-Iran-Undecided-on-Nuclear-Bomb-81256887.html)]

5. Israeli military intelligence has said Iran has no present nuclear weapons program. [citation (http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArchiveDetails.aspx?ID=234088)]

6. On the other hand, Israel actually has developed between 75-400 nuclear weapons and has refused to sign the NPT despite international pressure to do so, in other words they are in the same boat as North Korea. [citation (http://www.shalomlife.com/eng/13853/Israel_Rejects_Offer_to_Join_UN_Atomic_Agency/)]

7. Israel's nuclear arsenal, the only stock of nuclear warheads in the Middle East, is what drives other countries to attempt to proliferate. [citation (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wikileaks-files/egypt-wikileaks-cables/8326780/DASD-Kahl-Meeting-with-Egyptian-Military-Officials.html)]

tldr: Iran scaremongering is demonstratably 100% bullshit.

LOL. Google has failed you; your information is up to 2.5 years old. Let's try again.

Claim: There is no evidence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program aiming to produce a bomb.
Validity: False.
Fact: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/25/world/middleeast/25iran.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8866022/Iran-the-damning-nuclear-evidence.html

Claim: Iran has a civilian nuclear enrichment program. This is permitted by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Iran allows United Nations inspections of it nuclear facilities. You could say Iran is not as transparent as the IAEA would like, but there is no dispositive evidence of a weapons program.
Validity: False. This is a restatement of the previous point, which was also false.

Claim: The International Atomic Energy Agency has repeatedly certified that no nuclear material is being diverted to military purposes from Iran’s civilian nuclear enrichment facilities.
Validity: True, but they have qualified that statement by noting that the enrichment itself could be used toward military purposes in the future. There's also a parsing of words with regards to "military purposes". The IAEA and US intelligence officials both agree that Iran has moved substantial nuclear material to "a heavily defended underground military facility".
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/02/world/middleeast/02iran.html?hp=&pagewanted=print
http://www.isis-online.org/uploads/isis-reports/documents/IAEA_Report_Iran_16November2009pdf_1.pdf

I could go on, but it's not worth it. You obviously pick and choose the information that you want to accept, and you intentionally misrepresent the information that you do come across. The fact that the IAEA has said no nuclear material has been used toward military purposes is completely irrelevant at the moment. The only role the military would play would be to further enrich -- something they can do just as well as a "civilian enterprise", granted that the facilities are heavily-guarded, aerially impervious military bunkers. They've already enriched uranium to 20%, which is nearly weapons grade, and they've admitted that they enriched far more than they need for their stated purpose (medical isotopes). But yeah: non-military.

PS: Demonstratably is not a word.

[deakolt]

And who gives a fuck what the Arab-speaking world thinks of us? Planning a trip to Jordan anytime soon? Our popularity there means dick and a half. What matters is military and economic power, and we've got the high ground by a mile in both regards. Let them get a nuke and shit changes real fast.

you're a real shitbag and i'm gonna stop arguing with you. bet you're already in politics huh

[Daldolma]

You don't know how this works do you? lol

No, I don't think you do. Your point is surely 'lulz they'd know where the uranium came from'. Yeah, they would. So? If Iran hands a nuke off to Hezbollah, who uses it a year later on, say, New York City, what's the recourse? You going to invade Lebanon and go after Hezbollah? Nuke Iran as retaliation for proliferating to irresponsible actors? You're not doing shit. There's nothing you can do. It's the reason the nuclear proliferation game is so highly controlled in international politics. Once someone has a nuke, to a certain extent, you're at their mercy.

[Daldolma]

you're a real shitbag and i'm gonna stop arguing with you. bet you're already in politics huh

Oh, I'm sorry. Did I offend your sensibilities? Don't bother getting angry at me -- you're shooting the messenger. The fact is that the mission of the United States government, as it is understood by them, is to maximize the power and welfare of the United States and its citizens and, if possible, its allies. There is also a vague notion of duty to improving international conditions, but that's at the bottom of the priority list. Whether I agree with that or not is immaterial, it's the way shit works.

The opinion the average person in the Arab world has of America is unimportant to those goals.

[Daldolma]

Oh, and for what it's worth, Iran isn't a part of "the Arab-speaking world". Iran is Persian and they have a tenuous relationship with the Arab world. Terrorist groups have strong ties to them, but the government of Saudi Arabia, for instance, counts Iran as an enemy -- not a friend.

[Pico]

i feel ya i dont trust browns either

[Daldolma]

Pakistanis and Indians are brown; they've already got nukes.

[jarshale]

Fuckin brown people are scum. Kill em all and let God sort them out.

[purest]

whats that? the two most recent National Intelligence Estimates on Iranian nuclear progress have clearly stated that there is no conclusive evidence that Iran has made any effort to build the bomb since 2003?

but they're brown!

[Daldolma]

All sound, no fury. Your points are proven wrong and instead of reassessing your position, you retreat to insults, red herrings, and accusations of racism. Typical.

Recap: The IAEA, a multinational watchdog, stated that Iran was working on nuclear weapon triggers mere months ago. Your entire position that there's no evidence is contradicted. Stop being stupid. Get better.

[purest]

Alright, I'll bite. Lets start with your own source:

"The agency did not say where the evidence came from, nor did it provide many details about the allegations."

So, your "smoking gun" is a totally unsourced allegation that Iran had conducted work on “nuclear triggering technology” that could only be used for nuclear weapons...

But lets keep looking further..

New revelations about two documents leaked to The Times of London to show that Iran is working on a “nuclear trigger” mechanism have further undermined the credibility of the document the newspaper had presented as evidence of a continuing Iranian nuclear weapons programme.

A columnist for the Times has acknowledged that the two-page Persian language document published by the Times last month was not a photocopy of the original document but an expurgated and retyped version of the original...

Former Central Intelligence Agency official Philip Giraldi has said U.S. intelligence judges the “nuclear trigger” document to be a forgery, as IPS reported last week.

whoops!

[Tommy_Wiseau]

All sound, no fury. Your points are proven wrong and instead of reassessing your position, you retreat to insults, red herrings, and accusations of racism. Typical.

Recap: The IAEA, a multinational watchdog, stated that Iran was working on nuclear weapon triggers mere months ago. Your entire position that there's no evidence is contradicted. Stop being stupid. Get better.


whoops!

[purest]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Naez 4.20]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Daldolma]

Alright, I'll bite. Lets start with your own source:



So, your "smoking gun" is a totally unsourced allegation that Iran had conducted work on “nuclear triggering technology” that could only be used for nuclear weapons...

But lets keep looking further..



whoops!

There's no "whoops" there. The fact that a British newspaper released a forged document is 100% unrelated to the fact that the IAEA -- not a newspaper, fyi -- stated that Iran has been working on nuclear trigger technology. Like I said: red herrings.

[Pico]

i have a couple warheads but im not brown so yall good

[purest]

There's no "whoops" there.

except for the fact that the IAEA's allegation is 100% unsourced, the only source of the allegation in years past for the "trigger" claim is a well known forged document that's been thoroughly debunked

keep grasping at those straws though dogg

whoops!

[Daldolma]

except for the fact that the IAEA's allegation is 100% unsourced, the only source of the allegation in years past for the "trigger" claim is a well known forged document that's been thoroughly debunked

keep grasping at those straws though dogg

whoops!

Almost all of the IAEA's allegations are "unsourced". Read one of their reports. They are the watchdog. They are the source. I realize you have some slack-jawed applause from the RnF section, but you sound like an idiot. The nuclear triggers document released by the media was proven to be a forgery in 2009. The IAEA releases four board reports every year on Iran. Their first mention of Iranian nuclear trigger technology was in a report from May 2011. There is absolutely no way the two are linked. That document was known to be a forgery years ago. It's totally unrelated.

[Aruden]

"and I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed." - Genesis 12:3

People who channel their anger at vast political forces that they can't control are often just avoiding their responsibilities over the things that they can control.

[deakolt]

says the guy who quotes Genesis LOL

[deakolt]

Oh, I'm sorry. Did I offend your sensibilities? Don't bother getting angry at me -- you're shooting the messenger. The fact is that the mission of the United States government, as it is understood by them, is to maximize the power and welfare of the United States and its citizens and, if possible, its allies. There is also a vague notion of duty to improving international conditions, but that's at the bottom of the priority list. Whether I agree with that or not is immaterial, it's the way shit works.

The opinion the average person in the Arab world has of America is unimportant to those goals.

you're not the messenger buddy you're part of the problem

[Naez 4.20]

"From dust ye came, and to dust ye shall return" Genesis 3:19

[Tommy_Wiseau]

"Hey hey hey, smoke weed every day." -Dre 4:20

[Daldolma]

you're not the messenger buddy you're part of the problem

Out of curiosity, how do you figure? I assume you view yourself as a part of the solution, insofar as you do care about the United States' popular appeal in the Arab world. Why? What about that makes it "better"? I care about the best interests of the United States and its allies -- I'm unapologetic about that, as I'm a United States citizen. That doesn't mean I'm down to enslave the rest of humanity, but I don't care what Mohammad Abdul of Jordan thinks about me or my country. I really don't. I don't support infringing on his rights, but I'm perfectly fine with him hating me.

Fundamentalist Muslims hate us because of stupid shit like Christianity, globalization, and our influence in Saudi Arabia (read: mecca). There's no winning those guys over. Fuck 'em. Unfortunately, they're by and large the ones in power, and they use their religion to create a culture of unity that necessarily pits the Arab world against Western, non-Islamic influence. It is what it is.

[purest]

lol he's still beating that dead horse

his "smoking gun" is a totally unsourced allegation, the only known source of which is a well known forgery

The agency did not say where the evidence came from, nor did it provide many details about the allegations.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Daldolma]

lol he's still beating that dead horse

his "smoking gun" is a totally unsourced allegation, the only known source of which is a well known forgery



LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

You seem invested in this. I'm sorry that you were incorrect. An IAEA report does not = un-sourced. The IAEA is the source. They are a UN-backed international watchdog organization. They don't need to provide footnotes for Project 1999 frequent poster purest's approval.

[Naez 4.20]

because the UN is the apotheosis of credibility and all

[purest]

You seem invested in this. I'm sorry that you were incorrect. An IAEA report does not = un-sourced. The IAEA is the source. They are a UN-backed international watchdog organization. They don't need to provide footnotes for Project 1999 frequent poster purest's approval.

The agency did not say where the evidence came from, nor did it provide many details about the allegations.

aka 100% unsourced

english mother fucker, do you speak it?

[Daldolma]

because the UN is the apotheosis of credibility and all

Hey, that's fair. I'm not saying you have to trust them. Like I said earlier, the alternative is that the US government, European governments, Israeli government, United Nations, CIA, SIS, and Mossad are all involved in a conspiracy aimed at unfairly and incorrectly attributing military motives to Iran's nuclear program. If they are, they got me. Baaaaaa.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

You seem invested in this. I'm sorry that you were incorrect. An IAEA report does not = un-sourced. The IAEA is the source. They are a UN-backed international watchdog organization. They don't need to provide evidence.

no

[purest]

The alternative is that the US government, European governments, Israeli government, United Nations, CIA, SIS, and Mossad are all involved in a conspiracy aimed at unfairly and incorrectly attributing military motives to Iran's nuclear program.

[citation needed]

[Daldolma]

[citation needed]

Page back, tiger.

[purest]

Fact: The National Intelligence Estimates of 2007 and 2011 both reaffirmed that no nuclear material is being diverted to military purposes from Iran’s civilian nuclear enrichment facilities. [citation (http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Hersh-6-6-11.pdf)]

Fact: Every IAEA report since Iran began to be monitored is unequivocal in stating that "no diversion of nuclear material (for military purposes) has taken place." [citation (http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Hersh-6-6-11.pdf)]

Fact: 4. The US intelligence establishment doubts that Iran has or wants a nuclear weapons program. [citation (http://www.voanews.com/english/news/US-Defense-Spy-Chief-Iran-Undecided-on-Nuclear-Bomb-81256887.html)]

Fact: Israeli military intelligence has said Iran has no present nuclear weapons program. [citation (http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArchiveDetails.aspx?ID=234088)]

[Daldolma]

Haha, boy -- your list got shorter. I already responded to this shit back when you posted it the first time. I don't care enough to do it again, especially for someone that misunderstands the entire basis of the international concern. The point is that the civilian nuclear program is designed to provide the materials for a nuclear weapons program. Saying they haven't diverted nuclear material to the military yet is worthless. They wouldn't do that. And like I already said, the distinction is insignificant. Their "civilian" nuclear program just moved substantial nuclear material into a military-controlled bunker.

[Ximo]

tldr

[purest]

The agency did not say where the evidence came from, nor did it provide many details about the allegations.

They do not need to provide evidence.

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/jackie(8).jpg

[Daldolma]

Haha, I give up. You're right. The IAEA isn't a credible enough source to release a claim in a report without providing evidence. They need to adhere to standard Wikipedia guidelines and provide sources.

[purest]

They do not need to provide evidence.

:rolleyes:

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Nuclear weapons are a strange lot.

As soon as xyz country gets a nuke or two and a capable delivery system (or really not even that in the case of iran, being just a short jaunt over iraq to the greater israel area) they get political power. Why do you think europe stopped fighting? :P

The interesting outcome of this would be if we didn't stop nuclear proliferation, two things would result. One would be that as smaller and smaller subdivisions had nuclear capabilities, they could essentially make themselves smaller and smaller countries, as invasion would become less of a possibility, buuut...

With greater amounts of stockpiles of varying degrees of security, it could also lead to accidents, and nuclear accidents are just the worst kind of accidents o_O

Makes you wonder though--what would we say if Greece or something was developing nuclear power in an attempt to become energy self-sufficient? How would the EU respond to that? (I'm not familiar with Greece's situation in that regard and I realize it's an impossibility economically for that country, just curious if a friendly nation would begin developing it what would be the end result? Or are 'friendly nations' synonomous with 'nuclear nations' ?)

[Humerox]

Iran?

Israelis hate'em and they've pissed the Saudis off too. Don't think we need to do anything at all tbh.

Iran vs. Saudi Arabia: War on the Horizon? (http://www.hudson-ny.org/2557/iran-saudi-arabia-war)

[Chanur]

Iran has been testing new ballistic missile technology and moving their nuclear program into bunkers and upping enrichment. They are trying to build a nuclear weapon there is no doubt.

[Chanur]

Nuclear weapons are a strange lot.

As soon as xyz country gets a nuke or two and a capable delivery system (or really not even that in the case of iran, being just a short jaunt over iraq to the greater israel area) they get political power. Why do you think europe stopped fighting? :P

The interesting outcome of this would be if we didn't stop nuclear proliferation, two things would result. One would be that as smaller and smaller subdivisions had nuclear capabilities, they could essentially make themselves smaller and smaller countries, as invasion would become less of a possibility, buuut...

With greater amounts of stockpiles of varying degrees of security, it could also lead to accidents, and nuclear accidents are just the worst kind of accidents o_O

Makes you wonder though--what would we say if Greece or something was developing nuclear power in an attempt to become energy self-sufficient? How would the EU respond to that? (I'm not familiar with Greece's situation in that regard and I realize it's an impossibility economically for that country, just curious if a friendly nation would begin developing it what would be the end result? Or are 'friendly nations' synonomous with 'nuclear nations' ?)

You really know nothing about the Iran situation, its pretty obvious. No one wants to stop any country from having nuclear energy . We offered to build and show Iran how to make nuclear energy if they promise not to make weapons. They declined because they want weapons.

[purest]

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[Hoggen]

whats a zion? some kind of new hybrid car or something?

It's that place that the human race retreats to after each cycle of the Matrix.

[Krayzie]

Not going to quote every reply so let me just cut to the chase.

Iran? there is no evidence they are making a nuke, just assumptions by the governments that are threatening to invade them.

Iran hasn't invaded or attacked another country in the past 200 years, how many has USA and Israel attacked? who's the real threat?

Ahmadinejad sent a letter to both Bush and Obama and both denied having an open meeting on ties between both countries and both times the US Presidents did not reply.

Iran supporting Taliban? Iran is actually at war with Taliban and Al-Qaeda, do your research, the only country that supported them in history was USA :)

All these sanctions on Iran has made Iran an even stronger country because they are so self dependent now, We in the west should learn.

US has enough nukes to blow up the earth 20 times, Israel has many nukes also. they are worried about Iran making one? and they aren't even 100% sure if they are even building one.






..Ron Paul for president

[deakolt]

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[Daldolma]

http://m.yahoo.com/w/news_america/apnewsbreak-un-iranian-nuke-arms-claims-203800029.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

Lulz. Too many dumb people in this thread.

[purest]

meanwhile on wednesday Israel (which has 75-400 nuclear warheads and is a non-signatory to the NPT) tested a ballistic missile while making public statements about bombing Iran

but they're not brown, so daldolma won't say anything about that incident being a threat to instability and nuclear proliferation in the region

[Pico]

i am a brown man who enjoys sodomy

[Daldolma]

You sound upset. Israel is a US ally. They got their nuclear technology from us. They're surrounded by countries that started attacking them on Day One and face attacks on a daily basis. They have stronger US support than any other nation in the world. Your impotent rage aside, they couldn't be in better standing with the US government, which means they're cool with me. Also, since when did Israel's nuclear program become a part of the conversation? Oh right, since the reports that everything you've been saying is wrong.

Also, lulz at drawing the "brown" line between Israelis and Persians. Israelis look way more similar to Persians than Americans.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

they couldn't be in better standing with the US government, which means they're cool with me.

http://www.nndb.com/people/360/000022294/george-w-bush.jpg

[Naez 4.20]

the idiot son of an asswhole

[Daldolma]

Can't blame baby Bush for that -- joint session of Congress gave Netanyahu more standing ovations in his last address than they gave Obama at the State of the Union. Mickey Mouse couldn't have been a bigger crowd pleaser.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

they couldn't be in better standing with the US government, which means they're cool with me.

Africa
MOBUTU SESE SEKO
Dictator of Zaire 1965-1997
MOHAMMED SIAD BARRE
President/Dictator of Somalia 1969-1991
GEN. IBRAHIM BABANGIDA
Military Dictator/President of Nigeria 1985-1993
GEN. SANI ABACHA
Dictator of Nigeria 1993-1998
HASTINGS KAMUZU BANDA
Dictator of Malawi 1966-1994
LAURENT-DÉSIRÉ KABILA
President/Dictator of the Democratic Republic of the Congo 1997-2001
GNASSINGBE ETIENNE EYADEMA
Dictator of Togo 1967-2005
FELIX HOUPHOUET-BOIGNY
Dictator/President of the Ivory Coast 1960-1993
HASSAN II
King of Morocco 1961-1999
TEODORO OBIANG NGUEMA MBASOGO
President/Dictator of Equatorial Guinea 1979-present
ZINE EL ABIDINE BEN ALI
President-Prime Minister/Dictator of Tunisia 1987-2011
ANWAR EL-SADAT
President/Dictator of Egypt 1970-1981
HOSNI MUBARAK
President/Dictator of Egypt 1981-present
IAN SMITH
Prime Minister of Rhodesia (white minority regime) 1965-1979
PIETER WILLEM BOTHA
Prime Minister of South Africa (white minority regime) 1978-1984, President 1984-1989
DANIEL ARAP MOI
President/Dictator of Kenya 1978-2002
HAILE SELASSIE (RAS TAFARI)
Emperor of Ethiopia 1928-1974
WILLIAM J. S. TUBMAN
President/Dictator of Liberia 1944-1971
SAMUEL KANYON DOE
Dictator of Liberia 1980-1990

Asia
MOHAMED SUHARTO
Dictator of Indonesia 1966-1998
NGO DINH DIEM
President/Dictator of South Vietnam 1955-1963
GEN. NGUYEN KHANH
Dictator of South Vietnam 1964-1965
NGUYEN CAO KY
Dictator of South Vietnam 1965-1967
GEN. NGUYEN VAN THIEU
President/Dictator of South Vietnam 1967-1975
TRAN THIEM KHIEM
Prime Minister of South Vietnam 1969-75
BAO DAI
Emperor of Vietnam 1926-1945, chief of state 1949-1955
LEE KUAN YEW
Prime Minister/Dictator of Singapore 1959-1990; behind-the scenes ruler since then.
EMOMALI RAHMONOV
President/Dictator of Tajikistan 1992-present
NURSULTAN NAZARBAYEV
President of Kazakhstan 1990-present
ISLAM A. KARIMOV
President/Dictator of Uzbekistan 1990-present
SAPARMURAD ATAYEVICH NIYAZOV
President/Dictator of Turkmenistan 1990-2006
MARSHAL LUANG PIBUL SONGGRAM
Dictator of Thailand 1948-1957
FIELD MARSHAL THANOM KITTIKACHORN
Prime Minister/Dictator of Thailand 1957-58, 1963-1973
CHIANG KAI-SHEK
President/Dictator (Nationalist) of China 1928-1949
President/Dictator of Taiwan 1949-1975
CHIANG CHING-KUO
President/Dicator of Taiwan 1978-1988; Prime Minister 1972-1978
DENG XIAOPING
De facto ruler of China from circa 1978 to the early 1990s
FERDINAND MARCOS
President/Dictator of the Philippines 1965-1986
SYNGMAN RHEE
President/Dictator of South Korea 1948-1960
GEN. PARK CHUNG HEE
President/Dictator of South Korea 1962-1979
GEN. CHUN DOO HWAN
President/Dictator of South Korea 1980-1988
SIR MUDA HASSANAL BOLKIAH
Sultan of Brunei 1967-present
GEN. LON NOL
Prime Minister/Dictator of Cambodia 1970-1975
POL POT
Dictator of Cambodia 1975-1979
MAJ. GEN. SITIVENI RABUKA
Dictator of Fiji 1987-1999
ASKAR AKAYEV
President of Kyrgyzstan 10/27/1990-2005

Europe
FRANCISCO FRANCO
Dictator of Spain 1939-1975
ANTONIO SALAZAR DE OLIVEIRA
Dictator of Portugal 1928-1968
COL. GEORGIOS PAPADOPOULOS
Prime Minister/President/Dictator of Greece 1967-1973

Latin America
ANASTASIO SOMOZA GARCIA
Dictator of Nicaragua 1937-1947, 1950-1956
ANASTASIO "TACHITO" SOMOZA DEBAYLE
Dictator of Nicaragua 1967-1972, 1974-1979
MANUEL ESTRADA CABRERA
Dictator of Guatemala 1898-1920
GEN. JORGE UBICO CASTANEDA
Dictator of Guatemala 1931-1944
COL. CARLOS ENRIQUE CASTILLO ARMAS
Dictator of Guatemala 1954-1957
GEN. JOSE MIGUEL YDIGORAS FUENTES
President/Dictator of Guatemala 1958-1963
COL. ENRIQUE PERALTA AZURDIA
Military Junta, Guatemala 1963-1966
COL.CARLOS ARANA OSORIO
Dictator of Guatemala 1970-1974
GEN. FERNANDO ROMEO LUCAS GARCIA
Dictator of Guatemala 1978-1982
GEN. JOSE EFRAIN RIOS MONTT
Dictator of Guatemala 1982-1983
MARCO VINICIO CEREZO ARÉVALO
President/Dictator of Guatemala 1986-1991
MAXIMILIANO HERNANDEZ MARTINEZ
Dictator of El Salvador 1931-1944
COL. OSMIN AGUIRRE Y SALINAS
Dictator of El Salvador 1944-1945
CIVILIAN-MILITARY JUNTA, EL SALVADOR
1961-1962
COL. ARTURO ARMANDO MOLINA BARRAZA
Dictator of El Salvador 1972-1977
JUNTA, EL SALVADOR
1979-1982
ALFREDO FÉLIX CRISTIANI BUKARD
President/Dictator of El Salvador 1989-1994
TIBURCIO CARIAS ANDINO
Dictator of Honduras 1932-1948
COL. OSWALDO LOPEZ ARELLANO
Dictator of Honduras 1963-1975
ROBERTO SUAZO CORDOVA
President/Dictator of Honduras 1982-1986
GEN. OMAR HERRERA-TORRIJOS
Dictator of Panama 1969-1981
GEN. MANUEL ANTONIO MORENA NORIEGA
Dictator of Panama 1982-1989
AUGUSTO PINOCHET UGARTE
Dictator of Chile 1973-1990
GEN. JORGE RAFAEL VIDELA
Dictator of Argentina 1976-1981
COL. MARCOS PEREZ JIMENEZ
Dictator of Venezuela 1950-1958
GEN. ALFREDO STROESSNER
Dictator of Paraguay 1954-1989
ALBERTO FUJIMORI
Dictator of Peru 1990-2000
FRANCOIS "PAPA DOC" DUVALIER
Dictator of Haiti 1957-1971
JEAN-CLAUDE "BABY DOC" DUVALIER
Dictator of Haiti 1971-1986
MILITARY JUNTA / LT. GEN. RAOUL CEDRAS, GEN. PHILIPPE BIAMBY and LT. COL. MICHEL-JOSEPH FRANCO
Haiti 1991-1994
GEN. RENE BARRIENTOS ORTUNO
President/Dictator of Bolivia 1964-1969
GEN. HUGO BANZER SUAREZ
Dictator of Bolivia 1971-1978
DR. GETULIO VARGAS
Dictator of Brazil 1930-1945, 1951-1954
GEN. HUMBERTO DE ALENCAR CASTELLO BRANCO
Dictator of Brazil 1964-1967
CARLOS PRIO SOCARRAS
Dictator of Cuba 1948-1952
FULGENCIO BATISTA
Dictator of Cuba 1933-44, 1952-1959
GERARDO MACHADO MORALES
Dictator of Cuba 1925-1933
RAFAEL LEONIDAS TRUJILLO
Dictator of the Dominican Republic 1930-1961

Middle East
MOHAMMED REZA PAHLAVI
Shah of Iran 1941-1979
SADDAM HUSSEIN
Dictator of Iraq 1969 (1979)-2003
GEN. MOHAMMED AYUB KHAN
President/Dictator of Pakistan 1958-1969
GEN. AGHA MUHAMMAD YAHYA KHAN
President/Dictator of Pakistan 1969-1971
GEN. MOHAMMAD ZIA UL-HAQ
President/Dictator of Pakistan 1977-1988
PERVEZ MUSHARRAF
Dictator of Pakistan 1999-2008
ABDUL IBN HUSSEIN I
King of Jordan 1952-1999
TURGUT ÖZAL
Prime Minister of Turkey 1983-1989, President 1989-1993
SHEIK JABIR AL-AHMAD AL SABAH
Emir of Kuwait 1977-2006
Prime Minister of Kuwait 1962-1963, 1965-1978
FAHD IBN ABDUL-AZIZ AL SAUD
King and Prime Minister of Saudi Arabia 1982-2005

[purest]

some corrections in syntax

israel is surrounded by countries it has attacked on a daily basis since day one

[Naez 4.20]

While all you lil house *****z are singing and dancing, I'll kill you and take your land like an Israeli expansion

[Tommy_Wiseau]

Congress gave Netanyahu more standing ovations in his last address than they gave Obama at the State of the Union. Mickey Mouse couldn't have been a bigger crowd pleaser.

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[Tommy_Wiseau]

source purist ofc

[purest]

lewl @ not seeing the blatant hypocrisy in arguing that "being surrounded by countries that want to attack you" entitles israel to nuclear weapons as a deterrent while denying iran that privilege in the same breath

(hint hint: because they're brown)

[Daldolma]

Hypocrisy? Who the fuck is making an even-handed argument? The US is the dominant world power. Israel is one of their strongest allies. It's not an issue for the US that Israel has nukes. Iran having nukes would be. In terms of fairness and equality, sure they have the same right to nukes that we do. In terms of America's best interest, they don't. That's all that matters and all that has mattered for a long time, whether you like it or not.

[Naez 4.20]

personally I support Iran starting a nuclear program

[Naez 4.20]

only after we pillage all the oil ofc tho, so the middle east will finally mutually destroy eachother.

[Sicnarf]

Ancient hatreds and modern weapons, I love it :)

[deakolt]

lets just trade half of our populations and make the brown people and the white people have sex

[Tommy_Wiseau]

Just as predicted:

An inside look at the base where Iran is developing nuclear weapons (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/an-inside-look-at-the-base-where-iran-is-developing-nuclear-weapons-1.393920)


Netanyahu says jump, days later IAEA says how high. You think this is a coincidence?

Iran invasion is coming very soon.

[Salty]

If Israel attacks Iran, the OP is right.

[Salty]

These are solid links, keep them coming.

[Naez 4.20]

Fuck both Israel and Iran

how you like them apples bitch?

[Naez 4.20]

- Every real Amurrican, 2011

[Salty]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-government-security-services-websites-down-in-suspected-cyber-attack-1.394042

[Naez 4.20]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-government-security-services-websites-down-in-suspected-cyber-attack-1.394042

DUh winning!

[Tommy_Wiseau]

IAEA says foreign expertise has brought Iran to threshold of nuclear capability
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/iaea-says-foreign-expertise-has-brought-iran-to-threshold-of-nuclear-capability/2011/11/05/gIQAc6hjtM_print.html)

Drudge headline linking to this article: IRAN ON NUKE BRINK


From Zionist to American media, the story trickles down; we are a sovereign nation, aren't we?

[Naez 4.20]

The Devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on September 11th

[mimixownzall]

@Diggles, @Biffins: you guys say shut the fuck up please while you sit behind your computer screens playing video games, ignorant of real shit happening in the world. It's dumbfucks like you that make this country suck

*looks at your location* Rofl, like you kalifornians have a clue.

[mimixownzall]

No, I don't think you do. Your point is surely 'lulz they'd know where the uranium came from'. Yeah, they would. So? If Iran hands a nuke off to Hezbollah, who uses it a year later on, say, New York City, what's the recourse? You going to invade Lebanon and go after Hezbollah? Nuke Iran as retaliation for proliferating to irresponsible actors? You're not doing shit. There's nothing you can do. It's the reason the nuclear proliferation game is so highly controlled in international politics. Once someone has a nuke, to a certain extent, you're at their mercy.

If they were smart they wouldn't waste their time with nuking New York. That is small beans compared to EMP over the US.

[Biffins]

@Diggles, @Biffins: you guys say shut the fuck up please while you sit behind your computer screens playing video games, ignorant of real shit happening in the world. It's dumbfucks like you that make this country suck

I think you might be taking RnF too seriously.

[Daldolma]

IAEA says foreign expertise has brought Iran to threshold of nuclear capability
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/iaea-says-foreign-expertise-has-brought-iran-to-threshold-of-nuclear-capability/2011/11/05/gIQAc6hjtM_print.html)

Drudge headline linking to this article: IRAN ON NUKE BRINK


From Zionist to American media, the story trickles down; we are a sovereign nation, aren't we?

Who's we? Thought you couldn't find a job here and decided to bounce.

[purest]

cyber stalker alert

[Naez 4.20]

http://images.uncyc.org/commons/2/26/Pink_panther.gif

[Chanur]

Not going to quote every reply so let me just cut to the chase.

Iran? there is no evidence they are making a nuke, just assumptions by the governments that are threatening to invade them.

Iran hasn't invaded or attacked another country in the past 200 years, how many has USA and Israel attacked? who's the real threat?

Ahmadinejad sent a letter to both Bush and Obama and both denied having an open meeting on ties between both countries and both times the US Presidents did not reply.

Iran supporting Taliban? Iran is actually at war with Taliban and Al-Qaeda, do your research, the only country that supported them in history was USA :)

All these sanctions on Iran has made Iran an even stronger country because they are so self dependent now, We in the west should learn.

US has enough nukes to blow up the earth 20 times, Israel has many nukes also. they are worried about Iran making one? and they aren't even 100% sure if they are even building one.






..Ron Paul for president

There is as much chance of Ron Paul being president as Iran not making nukes. There is s plethra of reasons they want nuke, and Iran has been involved in many many conflicts over the last 200 years. Shit they are in several proxy wars as we speak .

[Diggles]

Shit they are in several proxy wars as we speak .
fuckers evading an IP ban

[Krayzie]

Israels former president was born in Iran..true story..
Moshe Katsav
"Katsav was born in Yazd, Iran as Musa Qasab. His family brought him to Tehran when he was an infant; in June 1951, when he was five, they emigrated to Israel. He remains fluent in Persian."

[Harrison]

This thread is filled with a wealth of hilarity. I honestly can't tell if naez is just that fucking dumb, or trolling hard.

[deakolt]

i've come to the conclusion that anyone who says ron paul for president has no idea what the fuck they're talking about

i was once one of these

[Naez 4.20]

This thread is filled with a wealth of hilarity. I honestly can't tell if naez is just that fucking dumb, or trolling hard.

Kill yourself faggot

[Naez 4.20]

i've come to the conclusion that anyone who says ron paul for president has no idea what the fuck they're talking about

i was once one of these

You too faggot

[Harrison]

So eloquently put.

Jk, you're an illiterate tool and will never amount to anything more than a drug addled fastfood clerk.

[Slathar]

So eloquently put.

Jk, you're an illiterate tool and will never amount to anything more than a drug addled fastfood clerk.

last year i made $289,415 dollars. u mad?

[Naez 4.20]

So eloquently put.

Jk, you're an illiterate tool and will never amount to anything more than a drug addled fastfood clerk.

You got kicked out of the Army and you cut meat at a fucking grocery store for minimum wage dude. I have a college degree and a salaried+performance-paid job where I sit on my ass wutdoing a Linux terminal trolling IRC all day. If we're gonna go there, I auto-win.

Now you pointlessly came @ me about this thread, one I have intentionally avoided posting seriously in, and where my last post is a gif of a dog humping his toy. You lack critical thinking, judgement, reasoning, and social skills which is why you are a failure who should kill yourself for the benefit of the species.

---

Now as far as the Ron Paul hating douchebag goes, he's not quite on Harrison's level of faggotry but it was close enough and warrants him committing seppeku. Yes, founding father material candidate comes at a pivotal point in history to end unjust wars and abolish the system enslaving our children with debt and all he does is blanketly flame anyone who supports him with no substance.

[Slathar]

You got kicked out of the Army and you cut meat at a fucking grocery store for minimum wage dude. I have a college degree and a salaried+performance-paid job where I sit on my ass wutdoing a Linux terminal trolling IRC all day. If we're gonna go there, I auto-win.

Now you pointlessly came @ me about this thread, one I have intentionally avoided posting seriously in, and where my last post is a gif of a dog humping his toy. You lack critical thinking, judgement, reasoning, and social skills which is why you are a failure who should kill yourself for the benefit of the species.

---

Now as far as the Ron Paul hating douchebag goes, he's not quite on Harrison's level of faggotry but it was close enough and warrants him committing seppeku. Yes, founding father material candidate comes at a pivotal point in history to end unjust wars and abolish the system enslaving our children with debt and all he does is blanketly flame anyone who supports him with no substance.

naez, the people's champion

[Daldolma]

last year i made $289,415 dollars. u mad?

Betting $289,416 that you made closer to the tax on $289,415 -- not that there's anything wrong with that. But people that make decent money don't flop it on the table -- they're usually more concerned with making more.

Also, you'd have to work a pretty faggy job to bother with $5 denominations. If you're gonna make shit up, at least make it a round number.

[Daldolma]

Ron Paul is a good guy, but he's a niche vote. Right or wrong, he's not an electable candidate. Won't bother getting deeper into his policies than that.

[Harrison]

Definitely raged there, illiterate kid...

[Slathar]

Betting $289,416 that you made closer to the tax on $289,415 -- not that there's anything wrong with that. But people that make decent money don't flop it on the table -- they're usually more concerned with making more.

Also, you'd have to work a pretty faggy job to bother with $5 denominations. If you're gonna make shit up, at least make it a round number.

yeah because the only income have is from a job and not investments

u mad

[Harrison]

i cant spell but me hav gud job rofl noob

[Slathar]

i cant spell but me hav gud job rofl noob

ill have a pound of the black forest ham, extra thin slices, thanks

[purest]

and a 1/2 pound of swiss cheese

[Naez 4.20]

I was a bit flustered, taken aback and rushed, and when I lash out at retards who need to be purged it can be ugly. However, don't troll yourself into believing you can anger me my brother. For instance, you are incessantly spamming that I am illiterate, I can't take you seriously at all.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

Definitely raged there, illiterate kid...
Harrison:
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You got kicked out of the Army and you cut meat at a fucking grocery store for minimum wage dude. I have a college degree and a salaried+performance-paid job where I sit on my ass wutdoing a Linux terminal trolling IRC all day. If we're gonna go there, I auto-win.

Now you pointlessly came @ me about this thread, one I have intentionally avoided posting seriously in, and where my last post is a gif of a dog humping his toy. You lack critical thinking, judgement, reasoning, and social skills which is why you are a failure who should kill yourself for the benefit of the species.

---

Now as far as the Ron Paul hating douchebag goes, he's not quite on Harrison's level of faggotry but it was close enough and warrants him committing seppeku. Yes, founding father material candidate comes at a pivotal point in history to end unjust wars and abolish the system enslaving our children with debt and all he does is blanketly flame anyone who supports him with no substance.
Naez:
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[Harrison]

Still raging, fabricating shit no one cares about, over an argument you have no ability to elaborate on without spewing conspiracy theories that make you look like a cave-dwelling retard...

ZIONIST JEW CONSPIRACY ALIENS CAUSED 9-11 TO PERPETUATE THE blah blah fucking blah, give it up kid. You're a fucking moron.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

who mad again? forgot

[Naez 4.20]

I used to `slide` at conspiracies as well. Then I read some Quiggley and Tarpley and now I can't sleep.

[Naez 4.20]

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[Tommy_Wiseau]

Report: Sarkozy calls Netanyahu 'liar' (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4145266,00.html)

Microphones accidently left on after G20 meeting pick up private conversation between US, French presidents. Sarkozy admits he 'can't stand' Israeli premier. Obama: You're fed up with him? I have to deal with him every day!


Warmongering Israelis exposed; Zionist influence on American media confirmed more powerful than the influence exerted by Obama's executive branch. We do not control this country.

[Naez 4.20]

There exists a government within a government within the United States.

-OBL 9/12

[Nirgon]

Give me the access codes to Zion.

http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/matrixmorpheus1.jpg

[Daldolma]

Report: Sarkozy calls Netanyahu 'liar' (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4145266,00.html)

Microphones accidently left on after G20 meeting pick up private conversation between US, French presidents. Sarkozy admits he 'can't stand' Israeli premier. Obama: You're fed up with him? I have to deal with him every day!


Warmongering Israelis exposed; Zionist influence on American media confirmed more powerful than the influence exerted by Obama's executive branch. We do not control this country.

Lol at this guy.

Look, an iguana. Confirmed: lizard people conspiracy, New World Order, Bush; towaz.

News at 8: unemployed stoner uncovers multinational conspiracy, undermines shadow government, eats Captain Crunch for dinner.