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Albel420
10-26-2011, 06:11 AM
for boxing apparently,im on my druid falling asleep just sitting at the zone in not bothering anyone not doing anything but sitting there, my brother on his bard in another room swarm kiting, yet i get banned. because im playing both accounts on the same computer, what a load of croc. What does a bard need from a druid? >_< rogean this is a load of bull man. we werent boxing, check the ip or something horse dooooodie!

Pyronost
10-26-2011, 06:21 AM
Your IP would be the same if he's in the other room on the same connection.

loopholbrook
10-26-2011, 06:21 AM
pics or gtfo

Albel420
10-26-2011, 06:26 AM
Your IP would be the same if he's in the other room on the same connection.

we share a connection yes, they didnt give a test or anything, my brother said amendaline said "oh you're being banned for boxing." i was asleep when it all went down i have no idea if they tried to message me and i didnt respond, i can see how it might have looked but a simple test could have resolved this.... i wasnt boxing :( i like p99 and wouldnt screw it up. theres 3 accounts linked to our connection if i was gonna box i'd do all 3 with a three way mage combo... imo because cmon.. mages conquer... boxing a bard and a druid...... bards can swarm kite would could it possibly benefit from a druid? other than the occasional sow.

loopholbrook
10-26-2011, 06:28 AM
Once again, provide a picture of you and your brother on separate computers in the same room and you may get out of it. From what I hear Amendaline jumps the gun with bans, don't know from personal experience, and don't plan on it.

Albel420
10-26-2011, 06:30 AM
Once again, provide a picture of you and your brother on separate computers in the same room and you may get out of it. From what I hear Amendaline jumps the gun with bans, don't know from personal experience, and don't plan on it.

i can take pictures of us on seperate computers, no problem. where would i post them? our computers arent in the same room, they are down the hall from one another, with a cable connected to his from mine, and mine has the interentet , my pc shares it with his i suppose.

Albel420
10-26-2011, 06:32 AM
jeremy said that amendaline said rogean had been watching us, and that we were boxing, he said he didnt receive a message from rogean, but its possible he messaged me and she messaged him, again i have no idea if i got any messages... i was asleep at my computer, like many of us have done before.

loopholbrook
10-26-2011, 06:36 AM
i can take pictures of us on seperate computers, no problem. where would i post them? our computers arent in the same room, they are down the hall from one another, with a cable connected to his from mine, and mine has the interentet , my pc shares it with his i suppose.

Then take a video showing that set up and post it on this thread or send it to Nilbog/Rogean when you petition it. Like you said it doesn't necessarily make sense to box a druid and a bard considering that they're both pretty great soloers. If you have any conversation in between the characters that might be compelling. Act like you're being convicted of murder and bring all the evidence you can against him. If all of his evidence is that it's from the same ip that's generally not enough if you have stuff proving otherwise. I don't know what to tell you other than that. Good luck if you're telling the truth. If you're lying, just accept it and move on, it is just a game (kinda) after all.

Albel420
10-26-2011, 06:37 AM
im not a liar, and i've proven it to rogean before when i was suspended for third party programs, i will get what i need :P thanks for the advice.

Awwalike
10-26-2011, 06:43 AM
what zone was it? 10 bucks says you were pulling the fat ae trains and DSing your bard lol.

Brut
10-26-2011, 06:51 AM
http://i44.tinypic.com/t9jt7a.jpg

Or PM em. Can't grasp how public post in server chat would do ya any favors on these things.

Albel420
10-26-2011, 06:52 AM
what zone was it? 10 bucks says you were pulling the fat ae trains and DSing your bard lol.

it was south karanas if im not mistaken the one with split paw in it, he might have been pulling fat trains, but he's level 20.....and my druid is 30....we werent grouped, i hadnt casted ds on him since he was like level 17. he was swarm kiting... stuff higher than him 1 hit and he would have been a gonner... i dont think my 11 damage DS would hurt them that much :P i did sow him from time to time , when he'd come in here and wake me up haha. but he said his buffs from me were gone he thought... he said he didnt think to check when he was running from a horde of mobs...Again if i was boxing to benefit both toons.. i would have grouped with the bard... to leech exp... it just doesnt make sense to box a druid that does nothing to benefit you....

loopholbrook
10-26-2011, 06:52 AM
Hold up, if you and your brother are playing at the same time, why is your account the only one being banned. Sounds a bit fishy.

Albel420
10-26-2011, 06:54 AM
http://i44.tinypic.com/t9jt7a.jpg

Or PM em. Can't grasp how public post in server chat would do ya any favors on these things.

posted there already, and if i ahdnt made this post i wouldnt have gotten advice to take pictures of everything .

Albel420
10-26-2011, 06:54 AM
Hold up, if you and your brother are playing at the same time, why is your account the only one being banned. Sounds a bit fishy.

both accounts were banned....

Awwalike
10-26-2011, 06:57 AM
http://troll.me/images/futurama-fry/something-smells-fishy-and-it-certainly-isnt-fish.jpg

Albel420
10-26-2011, 06:59 AM
http://troll.me/images/futurama-fry/something-smells-fishy-and-it-certainly-isnt-fish.jpg

i like futurama, but i dont see how it's fishy...

Timarian
10-26-2011, 07:58 AM
Brut...Aqua - Barbie Girl.......REALLY???? :P

Rogean
10-26-2011, 08:47 AM
A. This isn't the Petition Forum.
B. You are guilty.
C. Good luck getting unbanned now with your public temper tantrum.
D. You are guilty.

Palemoon
10-26-2011, 09:35 AM
lol love it, ban the boxers!

and thanks OP for another great confessional, to all your hackers and boxers out there: this could be you!

Flunklesnarkin
10-26-2011, 10:03 AM
This like the third time i seen this in the few days since i started on p99 lol

maybe people should let the mods know they have more than one comp in house before they are banned?

MrSparkle001
10-26-2011, 10:11 AM
There's always the chance they might not be aware it's bannable here. I didn't know at first.

I was going to let my sister use my wireless connection and try EQ with me when I first found out about this server, and I'm happy she never did because it would have been two accounts on the same connection at the same time without me knowing it was bannable. I've bragged about how superior this game is to WoW and now I finally found a server that emulates classic. It's the perfect opportunity to show her what she missed.

Now, if she wants to play this game she has to get her own connection. I'm not taking chances. It's not like my wifi is often strong enough for her to connect to anyway. She's a few doors down and the signal gets weak but it does sometimes work well enough.

Rogean
10-26-2011, 10:23 AM
The server prevents you from logging in twice from the same connection, giving a temporary IP block error. In order to bypass, you need to apply for the IP Exemption. In addition to the fact that you'd have to do this to bypass it (thus meaning you're already aware boxing is not allowed), we make it very clear on the exemption replies that boxing will get you banned.

Not knowing isn't an excuse.

Amelinda
10-26-2011, 10:25 AM
The server prevents you from logging in twice from the same connection, giving a temporary IP block error. In order to bypass, you need to apply for the IP Exemption. In addition to the fact that you'd have to do this to bypass it (thus meaning you're already aware boxing is not allowed), we make it very clear on the exemption replies that boxing will get you banned.

Not knowing isn't an excuse.

Your exemption has been granted. If the accounts listed haven't logged off since this post, log out completely for it to take effect.

Remember the rules: 1 client per Real Life player at any time. Deviation from this rule will result in permanent bans.

Make sure everyone thoroughly understands and follows this rule.

Enjoy the server!

knottyb0y
10-26-2011, 10:27 AM
Here's a tip to not get banned if you have an ip exemption: When you and a buddy are online at the same ip DON'T GO AFK. The risk you run when on an ip exemption is that the Guides and GMs will have their eye on you. I would argue this story 99% can be avoided by playing attentively when you are playing, particularly if you are playing together.

If you do get banned(wrongly) it probably can easily be remedied by 1) not posting in the public forum 2) posting in the petition area and stating your case without being an ASSHAT about it. The Guides and GMs aren't dumb and they are not unreasonable. You are probably not gonna get banned for sitting around casting buffs on your friend as long as you are attentive to your character. Yes if you AFK for 10+ minutes while your buddy runs around it's gonna look like you are two boxing.

Yeah for the percentage of people who have been banned wrongly, if you go about it right I'm pretty sure you will be reinstated.

I cannot stress enough for people with IP exemptions, don't go AFK! You need to understand that you are in a situation that the average player or live account is not, and going AFK can jeopardize the privilege you have to play with 2+ computers on the same IP.

If you must go afk suck it up and camp out, or if you are in a group let EVERYONE know that you are going afk for x amount of time. If it's just you and your buddy CAMP CAMP CAMP. save your own ass.

Rogean
10-26-2011, 10:32 AM
Logging out to go afk is not necessary, no staff here will ban a suspected two box simply because one of them isn't moving. We do, however, have several other methods and information available to us, some of which can lead us to a two box conclusion with or without the character(s) being afk.

casdegere
10-26-2011, 10:59 AM
You guys don't have to explain yourselves, I just want to make that clear that your doing so because you wanted to. Everyone always has an excuse.

gnomishfirework
10-26-2011, 11:11 AM
I was hoping this was a hacker with a story, but I do love a good 2 boxer ban.

JenJen
10-26-2011, 11:25 AM
amelinda rezzed my rotted corpse once
A+++++

Trisun
10-26-2011, 11:41 AM
I absolutely Love it.
BAN HAMMER!

Mcbard
10-26-2011, 11:43 AM
amelinda rezzed my rotted corpse once
A+++++ would petition again!

FTFY :D

Kabilos
10-26-2011, 12:24 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/t9jt7a.jpg

Or PM em. Can't grasp how public post in server chat would do ya any favors on these things.

That is some epic graphical artistry right there!

Kabilos
10-26-2011, 12:31 PM
This like the third time i seen this in the few days since i started on p99 lol

maybe people should let the mods know they have more than one comp in house before they are banned?

They have to notify the Admin's to get an IP exemption otherwise you can't even log in with more than 1 account at a time.

Jjlent
10-26-2011, 12:35 PM
Don't you slander Amelinda's good name loopholbrook. She doesn't "jump the guns with bans". first being she can't just ban someone w/o rogean and second being she's 1 of the nicest people on the server who always gives players the benefit of the doubt.
Long live the Leezard Queen

mimixownzall
10-26-2011, 12:52 PM
At least Uthgaard would give you a test. Just coming in and banning?

That's pretty lame.

mitic
10-26-2011, 12:56 PM
there is some sort of paranoia at server staff so log out before u go afk on another computer at home

Extunarian
10-26-2011, 01:01 PM
At least Uthgaard would give you a test. Just coming in and banning?

That's pretty lame.

I think we should respect this person's opinion who is obviously highly informed on the matter and was there.

Daldaen
10-26-2011, 01:01 PM
Better resolution is be like most other EQ players, be anti-social and don't have friends that live close to you such that you need an IP exemption then you are good to go!

Jjlent
10-26-2011, 01:16 PM
I think we should respect this person's opinion who is obviously highly informed on the matter and was there.

lol

Cyrano
10-26-2011, 01:25 PM
Your brother walking into your room to buff himself while you sleep = two boxing. I don't believe, for even a second, that he woke you up every 30 minutes to get a buff.

Palemoon
10-26-2011, 01:29 PM
Froggs excuse was way better, and his pleas much more dramatic. Tons of people opened his thread while simutaneously reaching for a box of tissue, expecting something dire...

Lovely
10-26-2011, 01:34 PM
At least Uthgaard would give you a test. Just coming in and banning?

That's pretty lame.

Wow even on the PVE forum you post shit about something you have no clue about!

Rogean
10-26-2011, 01:36 PM
Don't you slander Amelinda's good name loopholbrook. She doesn't "jump the guns with bans". first being she can't just ban someone w/o rogean and second being she's 1 of the nicest people on the server who always gives players the benefit of the doubt.
Long live the Leezard Queen

Amelinda is fully capable of banning without me.

Autotune
10-26-2011, 01:40 PM
Amelinda is fully capable of banning me.

Awwalike
10-26-2011, 01:44 PM
I fricken see what you did there Autotune.

Rogean
10-26-2011, 02:14 PM
Technically she could ban me...

Jjlent
10-26-2011, 02:20 PM
Damn, she's got supreme power! but i still stand by my second point

Kassel
10-26-2011, 02:26 PM
Rogean can you please change title of this thread from "Banned" to "Owned"

Much <3

Albel420
10-26-2011, 02:37 PM
Definately jumped the gun on banning me, i wasnt boxing PERIOD, i dont care what "methods" you have of detecting it, which im sure is sitting watching and guessing. it's bullshit rogean i wasnt boxing and instead of talking to me about it, ofcourse my petition is ignored and all messages to you, wonder how many other people have suffered the same fate because someone "thought" they were boxing. You can't assume someone is boxing and ban then over it. a simple test would have proven that we werent boxing but did we get that oppourtunity? no, instead, banned. all because you guys thought we were boxing, load of croc.

Albel420
10-26-2011, 02:40 PM
A. This isn't the Petition Forum.
B. You are guilty.
C. Good luck getting unbanned now with your public temper tantrum.
D. You are guilty.

A. im not guilty.
B. This isnt a public temper tantrum, I have the right to make it public that i was banned over an assumption, after dedicating a year to this server all my hard work shot down the drain.
C. from what i hear There isnt an "unban" button regardless of how much proof you have. considering the last boxing thread i saw was from over a year ago and he's still banned.
D. Not guilty sorry.

Extunarian
10-26-2011, 03:27 PM
A. im not guilty.
C. from what i hear There isnt an "unban" button regardless of how much proof you have. considering the last boxing thread i saw was from over a year ago and he's still banned.


I personally know 3 people who were banned for boxing due to a combination of language issues and bad luck. They went through the proper channels, supplied proof, and had their bans overturned.

The fact that you 'saw' the thread shows that that person went through the wrong channels and probably couldn't prove they weren't boxing.

Sodapop
10-26-2011, 03:29 PM
im not a liar, and i've proven it to rogean before when i was suspended for third party programs


:rolleyes:

Awwalike
10-26-2011, 03:36 PM
at least two box something sweet not South Karana.

fishingme
10-26-2011, 04:18 PM
I personally know 3 people who were banned for boxing due to a combination of language issues and bad luck. They went through the proper channels, supplied proof, and had their bans overturned.

The fact that you 'saw' the thread shows that that person went through the wrong channels and probably couldn't prove they weren't boxing.

I'm betting the GM who responded was Uthgard

Ssleeve
10-26-2011, 04:19 PM
I have noticed a large upswing in the amount of boxing going on lately.

Thank god there are starting to clean shit up.

fuark
10-26-2011, 04:40 PM
bard in southern area to kill for quillmane spawn

druid at zone in to track

???

profit

banned

Autotune
10-26-2011, 05:46 PM
My Stealin account was banned for RMT once. True story. I didn't actually RMT tho and, thus, was un-banned.



Moral of the story? System works for people that work with the system.

fishingme
10-26-2011, 06:22 PM
bard in southern area to kill for quillmane spawn

druid at zone in to track

???

profit

banned

Yes, because quillmane won't resist everything a lvl 30 and lvl 20 bard throw at it

Autotune
10-26-2011, 06:35 PM
Yes, because quillmane won't resist everything a lvl 30 and lvl 20 bard throw at it

i've seen lvl 18 bards kill Quillmane, next.

mostbitter
10-26-2011, 06:38 PM
Originally Posted by Albel420 View Post
im not a liar, and i've proven it to rogean before when i was suspended for third party programs


come on yall he is just a cheater not a boxer have some sympathy

Tombom
10-26-2011, 06:38 PM
bard in southern area to kill for quillmane spawn

druid at zone in to track

???

profit

banned

Thread over! you sir are a cheater.

ps fishingme confirmed bad at eq

fishingme
10-26-2011, 06:48 PM
i've seen lvl 18 bards kill Quillmane, next.

holy shit man, really? I've seen the statue of liberty getting blown up in a fictional movie once

fishingme
10-26-2011, 06:50 PM
Thread over! you sir are a cheater.

ps fishingme confirmed bad at eq

dont be so mad bro

Autotune
10-26-2011, 06:50 PM
holy shit man, really? I've seen the statue of liberty getting blown up in a fictional movie once

Cool Story





























































guy.

fishingme
10-26-2011, 06:53 PM
Cool Story




guy.

i want to motor-titanic your avatars teetaas, seriously

Awwalike
10-26-2011, 07:05 PM
i want to motor-titanic your avatars teetaas, seriously

whoa, daddy like.

Tobynn
10-26-2011, 07:22 PM
a simple test would have proven that we werent boxing but did we get that oppourtunity? no

I find it mildly amusing that you believe they require your participation in order to "test" your client.

fishingme
10-26-2011, 07:31 PM
I find it mildly amusing that you believe they require your participation in order to "test" your client.

I find you sexy that you think they have any way to test the "client" itself.

Kassel
10-26-2011, 07:46 PM
Yes, because quillmane won't resist everything a lvl 30 and lvl 20 bard throw at it

I killed Quill on 25 necro and then again on the same necro when i was 30.

Not one resist.

Fail more

fishingme
10-26-2011, 07:59 PM
I killed Quill on 25 necro and then again on the same necro when i was 30.

Not one resist.

Fail more

shut up newb

murrayh81
10-26-2011, 08:03 PM
Look, no one knows for sure if 2 boxing was going on, besides the people operating the computers in that house. The GMs probably have the best knowledge outside of that, and if they believe two-boxing was occurring, that is the final word.

Several posts here indicated that others did not know there was a "no 2 accounts from the same IP rule". How is that possible? It is stated clearly in a lot of different posts, most notably the Library/FAQ. There is even an exception process that supports multiple players from the same IP.

Even with the exception process, if two accounts are doing something suspicious that makes the GMs believe one person is operating both accounts at the same time, expect a hammer.

This whole thing is not rocket science, just a bit of reading, common sense and the ability to follow fully disclosed rules.

fuark
10-26-2011, 08:10 PM
Yes, because quillmane won't resist everything a lvl 30 and lvl 20 bard throw at it

Wow what level do you wait til until you solo Ice Giants, 60?

georgie
10-26-2011, 08:29 PM
At least Uthgaard would give you a test. Just coming in and banning?

That's pretty lame.

fishingme
10-26-2011, 08:42 PM
Wow what level do you wait til until you solo Ice Giants, 60?

homie, i was doing ice giants at character creation screen

MrSparkle001
10-26-2011, 09:15 PM
Several posts here indicated that others did not know there was a "no 2 accounts from the same IP rule". How is that possible? It is stated clearly in a lot of different posts, most notably the Library/FAQ. There is even an exception process that supports multiple players from the same IP.

I never tried connecting two accounts from same IP, and I didn't read the Library/FAQ thoroughly first. So sue me. I'm just like the vast majority of people who don't read through everything first. I found out about the server, went and installed the client, and started playing right away I was so excited. This is what I've been waiting for for years.

I would have known it was impossible to do had my sister tried playing.

It's good that two-boxing is not allowed, and it's good that they allow IP exemptions. That's what matters.

So, those who are being banned for two-boxing are those who have been granted IP exemptions. That I did not know. I really did think you could just log on multiple times from the same IP. It's good to know that you can't do that without an exemption.

fishingme
10-26-2011, 10:03 PM
Clearly this server has put quite a bit of stress on you. Calling his post a temper tantrum? Where was he swearing? Where was he calling GMs names and telling them that they're dumb or any other explicative? He didn't.

I sure hope you don't have kids man because I get the feeling they'd be face down in the pool after telling you dinner wasn't the best it's ever been. :eek:

sort of cute how with (C) he states "goodluck getting unbanned now" I guess he himself realizes that this guy getting banned may have gone unwarranted

Davardo
10-26-2011, 10:14 PM
Logging out to go afk is not necessary, no staff here will ban a suspected two box simply because one of them isn't moving. We do, however, have several other methods and information available to us, some of which can lead us to a two box conclusion with or without the character(s) being afk.

Me and Dirtnap (My brother) have been playing here since the start of the server. Never once have even been asked if we were boxing. We've sat with characters leeching off each other to sitting afk in EC while the other one is soloing.

They make sure before they say someone is boxing. It isn't an instant process.

loopholbrook
10-26-2011, 10:21 PM
Don't you slander Amelinda's good name loopholbrook. She doesn't "jump the guns with bans". first being she can't just ban someone w/o rogean and second being she's 1 of the nicest people on the server who always gives players the benefit of the doubt.
Long live the Leezard Queen

Hey bro. I just said that's what I heard bro. Like I said, I don't know from experience bro. Come on bro, you're the one jumping the gun now bro.

Peatree
10-27-2011, 11:09 AM
A. This isn't the Petition Forum.
B. You are guilty.
C. Good luck getting unbanned now with your public temper tantrum.
D. You are guilty.

Is this a multiple choice question? If so, shouldn't there be

E. All of the above

:cool:

Rogean
10-27-2011, 11:42 AM
Clearly this server has put quite a bit of stress on you. Calling his post a temper tantrum? Where was he swearing? Where was he calling GMs names and telling them that they're dumb or any other explicative? He didn't.

I sure hope you don't have kids man because I get the feeling they'd be face down in the pool after telling you dinner wasn't the best it's ever been. :eek:

The fact that hes wining about his ban in public forums to gather sympathy for himself rather than posting what he knows is the correct and proper method to appealing a ban in the petition forum. That is a public cry for "You're going to ban me so I'm going to make you regret it by letting everyone see what you're doing!!!11!!11oneone!!", most people do this without realizing it usually comes back to bite them in the ass.

This person was boxing, and I do not need to 'test' someone nor inform them prior to banning when we already have enough evidence. This particular situation is not always the case nor has it been accessible until recently, and in other cases it may be necessary to test the players.

Rogean
10-27-2011, 11:45 AM
sort of cute how with (C) he states "goodluck getting unbanned now" I guess he himself realizes that this guy getting banned may have gone unwarranted

What? You're trying awfully hard to pull reasoning that doesn't exist from my statement.

Shiftin
10-27-2011, 11:46 AM
Both players were logged in from the same computer, not just house. Yes, we can tell that now.

FYP ;)

Envious
10-27-2011, 11:47 AM
Skin + DS + Regen + Str buff + SoW, all useful for bard kiting.

And Amelinda is pretty awesome... but then again I didnt box P99.

Should have put this in the petition forum to avoid trolls and not make a ruckus.

Envious
10-27-2011, 11:48 AM
Peatree, btw, I love your avatar.

Peatree
10-27-2011, 12:29 PM
The server prevents you from logging in twice from the same connection, giving a temporary IP block error. In order to bypass, you need to apply for the IP Exemption. In addition to the fact that you'd have to do this to bypass it (thus meaning you're already aware boxing is not allowed), we make it very clear on the exemption replies that boxing will get you banned.

Not knowing isn't an excuse.

Too funny Rogean. I bet you feel exactly what God feels every time some non-believer faces him in heaven for judgement. :D

gnomishfirework
10-27-2011, 12:37 PM
Too funny Rogean. I bet you feel exactly what God feels every time some non-believer faces him in heaven for judgement. :D

Yikes. I've got some bad news for you ...

fishingme
10-27-2011, 12:47 PM
What? You're trying awfully hard to pull reasoning that doesn't exist from my statement.

Rogean, the reasoning does exist look a little harder

A. This isn't the Petition Forum.
B. You are guilty.
C. Good luck getting unbanned now with your public temper tantrum.
D. You are guilty.

See in bold? If the ban was just then why would you even say that?

Extunarian
10-27-2011, 01:11 PM
fishingme is clearly retarded

Autotune
10-27-2011, 01:15 PM
This particular situation is not always the case nor has it been accessible until recently, and in other cases it may be necessary to test the players.

DLL??W?T?F?!!

there are spies in my EQ

L1ch
10-27-2011, 01:29 PM
OP http://i.imgur.com/sTEsS.png

Rogean
10-27-2011, 01:34 PM
Rogean, the reasoning does exist look a little harder



See in bold? If the ban was just then why would you even say that?


Let me rephrase that then to "Good luck appealing", with the intention that we are not as likely to work with him on the details of his ban. He is banned either way, in his particular case there is no room for error. Additionally, most permanent bans initially come with the option to return to the game several months later (talking around 5 or 6 months) and appeal for a second chance.. this second chance depends on many things, but one of the many important ones is how you reacted when you were banned... if you gave the staff trouble or denied that you did what you did, your chances become much lower. This has been the case since the start of the server.

Peatree
10-27-2011, 01:39 PM
Yikes. I've got some bad news for you ...

I'd rather hear that from you instead of hearing it from God himself. :D

fishingme
10-27-2011, 02:05 PM
fishingme is clearly retarded

nah, i just think beyond your 4th grade level. Don't be so mad brew

Kabilos
10-27-2011, 02:23 PM
i want to motor-titanic your avatars teetaas, seriously

Every time I see that avatar it makes me sad. She reminds me of an ex girlfriend I had in my prime.

But then I went into the military and she stayed home and got pregnant and fat and now doesn't look anything like that.

And before you think it.. not my kids or my wife :)

Atmas
10-27-2011, 02:27 PM
Every time I see that avatar it makes me sad. She reminds me of an ex girlfriend I had in my prime.

But then I went into the military and she stayed home and got pregnant and fat and now doesn't look anything like that.

And before you think it.. not my kids or my wife :)

Ha ha :)

fishingme
10-27-2011, 02:28 PM
Every time I see that avatar it makes me sad. She reminds me of an ex girlfriend I had in my prime.

But then I went into the military and she stayed home and got pregnant and fat and now doesn't look anything like that.

And before you think it.. not my kids or my wife :)

I would never think that you would marry a fat chick

Awwalike
10-27-2011, 02:35 PM
Let me rephrase that then to "Good luck appealing", with the intention that we are not as likely to work with him on the details of his ban. He is banned either way, in his particular case there is no room for error. Additionally, most permanent bans initially come with the option to return to the game several months later (talking around 5 or 6 months) and appeal for a second chance.. this second chance depends on many things, but one of the many important ones is how you reacted when you were banned... if you gave the staff trouble or denied that you did what you did, your chances become much lower. This has been the case since the start of the server.

Rogean is a very reasonable guy, don't underestimate how much he cares/does for this server and it's players.

Harrison
10-27-2011, 02:40 PM
Personally I think everyone with 420 in their name should be banned preemptively for being a retard lol

I wonder how many of the 500 or so banned in the two waves have 420 in their names.

Kabilos
10-27-2011, 02:44 PM
I would never think that you would marry a fat chick

Whaling is outlawed on land. Just sayin.

Diggles
10-27-2011, 03:45 PM
http://troll.me/images/spiderman-faggots/there-it-goes-the-last-fuck-i-give-thumb.jpg

Kevlar
10-27-2011, 06:56 PM
Great job!

Should ban all aoe kiting bards imho though.

Awwalike
10-27-2011, 07:27 PM
Personally I think everyone with 420 in their name should be banned preemptively for being a retard lol

I wonder how many of the 500 or so banned in the two waves have 420 in their names.

who cares.

Sorath
10-27-2011, 07:30 PM
it was south karanas if im not mistaken the one with split paw in it, he might have been pulling fat trains, but he's level 20.....and my druid is 30....we werent grouped, i hadnt casted ds on him since he was like level 17. he was swarm kiting... stuff higher than him 1 hit and he would have been a gonner... i dont think my 11 damage DS would hurt them that much :P i did sow him from time to time , when he'd come in here and wake me up haha. but he said his buffs from me were gone he thought... he said he didnt think to check when he was running from a horde of mobs...Again if i was boxing to benefit both toons.. i would have grouped with the bard... to leech exp... it just doesnt make sense to box a druid that does nothing to benefit you....

Snaggles
10-27-2011, 09:07 PM
Wtf? 11 pages and we haven't had any kids or pets blamed yet?

This ban sucks. Bring me a better one plz. Maybe one where a corpse is lost in lava and they are banned for exploiting lava pathing?

visage
10-28-2011, 06:04 AM
A. This isn't the Petition Forum.
B. You are guilty.
C. Good luck getting unbanned now with your public temper tantrum.
D. You are guilty.

Rogean would ban you for a Klodike bar , true story P

Smyd
10-28-2011, 07:35 AM
Everyone is praising the petition forum...
People must realize that these are often ignored.

An example from my side...I traded some items over to my brothers lowbie alt, during the trade he crashed and a valuable item (in our opinion) vanished.

His post in the petition forum yielded one reply but it was never resolved. Making it public could sometimes help in getting noticed, otherwise it can easily be ignored and forgotten.

Anyway, just my 2 cp

Amelinda
10-28-2011, 07:56 AM
Everyone is praising the petition forum...
People must realize that these are often ignored.

An example from my side...I traded some items over to my brothers lowbie alt, during the trade he crashed and a valuable item (in our opinion) vanished.

His post in the petition forum yielded one reply but it was never resolved. Making it public could sometimes help in getting noticed, otherwise it can easily be ignored and forgotten.

Anyway, just my 2 cp

did you keep the post bumped?? I am not super woman......Rogean and Nilbog...while super awesome programmers and developers...sadly also lack super powers...........

I wonder why you should bump your post....

http://i40.tinypic.com/rtm7oz.jpg

Smyd
10-28-2011, 08:00 AM
did you keep the post bumped?? I am not super woman......Rogean and Nilbog...while super awesome programmers and developers...sadly also lack super powers...........

I wonder why you should bump your post....

http://i40.tinypic.com/rtm7oz.jpg

Hi... I didn't mean to offend, I realize it's a busy place, but I also wanted to point out that it's easy for things to be forgotten there :)

He did bump the post, twice i think... over a week. After that he started to feel guilty because he felt like he was pressuring the situation... so the rest is him, but i can pass the message on.

Thanks :)

Amelinda
10-28-2011, 08:35 AM
not offended. :) just wanted to explain since i'm fairly sure you can't view the # of posts.

Smyd
10-28-2011, 08:40 AM
Well thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it... gonna pass this onto my bro and motivate him to be more religious with the bumping of petitions :D

Done at work, so enjoy the weekend... byesiess

Jjlent
10-28-2011, 08:44 AM
im calling you out on a lie amelinda



















you ARE a super woman!

WizardEQ
10-28-2011, 08:52 AM
sort of cute how with (C) he states "goodluck getting unbanned now" I guess he himself realizes that this guy getting banned may have gone unwarranted

Unbelievable how many children have no common decency and amazing lack of social awareness!

Translation: A permanent ban from what I've gleaned equals you are banned for a VERY long time, in terms of an EQ time. Most of us play every night or close to it. So being banned for 1 month, 2 months, or 6 months is basically akin to being banned forever. You may as well say bye-bye to the game.

I believe Rogean is still sympathetic to those who have made mistakes in the past and considers the "Banned" actions in the banned period. He listens to all these posts and makes a valued judgment on who will change their habits of play and who won't. Think of it as "rehabilitation." If he concluded that you are rehabilitated, then you can come back to play; if not, then see you for infinity (hopefully).

I, myself, see things black and white and would probably make a horrible GM here. I'm of the notion one strike and you're out forever. Rogean is weighing every single variable that he can to allow the cheaters to come back to his sandbox and doing an unbelievable job at it from what I can see.

If you guys don't see this then shame on you.

WizardEQ
10-28-2011, 08:57 AM
We've waited 10 years for this to come out, so my question is how can people be SO STUPID to try and cheat on a game that is FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

That's why I always play one character on one account. I don't even want the notion of boxing entering my head.

Juugox2
10-28-2011, 09:00 AM
why cry about it here? i mean you got banned for a reason.. talk to them why post shit in public? and then bitch at them... that def isnt gonna make it any better for you at all..

(to guy who got banned) :P

Albel420
10-30-2011, 02:44 AM
The fact that hes wining about his ban in public forums to gather sympathy for himself rather than posting what he knows is the correct and proper method to appealing a ban in the petition forum. That is a public cry for "You're going to ban me so I'm going to make you regret it by letting everyone see what you're doing!!!11!!11oneone!!", most people do this without realizing it usually comes back to bite them in the ass.

This person was boxing, and I do not need to 'test' someone nor inform them prior to banning when we already have enough evidence. This particular situation is not always the case nor has it been accessible until recently, and in other cases it may be necessary to test the players.

i posted in the petition forums, Yet you nor any other staff have responded to it, i wasnt boxing. and you have NO proof, you assumed i was , and to the ignorant people talking about me killing the quilmane i was at the entrance to karanas... on the bridge my brother was Swarm kiting.. Im not whining simply stating the facts here. WE WERENT BOXING. you have no evidence. None, if you could see our pc ip's instead of our internets you'd know we werent boxing I was sitting at the entrance of karanas not doing a damn thing, Yet we were boxing. for personal gain apparently ... yeah, considering i was no where near him, and asleep when the ban occurred... I would like to know how you "know" i was boxing. and as for me posting it here, well it seems to be the only way people can get you to reply, since you clearly bypass the petition area.

Rogean
10-30-2011, 03:03 AM
i posted in the petition forums

"just got banned", Server Chat, 10-26-2011, 06:11 AM

"Other: ROGEAN", Petition / Exploit, 10-26-2011, 06:20 AM

A. This isn't the Petition Forum.
B. You are guilty.
C. Good luck getting unbanned now with your public temper tantrum.
D. You are guilty.

Ssleeve
10-30-2011, 03:20 AM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR4LJInzO8KKlot0MMf8hGAVeaQMkUiC EmFqjSnW7L1GCTnYnmhdA

Cyclone
10-30-2011, 04:09 AM
i posted in the petition forums, Yet you nor any other staff have responded to it, i wasnt boxing. and you have NO proof, you assumed i was , and to the ignorant people talking about me killing the quilmane i was at the entrance to karanas... on the bridge my brother was Swarm kiting.. Im not whining simply stating the facts here. WE WERENT BOXING. you have no evidence. None, if you could see our pc ip's instead of our internets you'd know we werent boxing I was sitting at the entrance of karanas not doing a damn thing, Yet we were boxing. for personal gain apparently ... yeah, considering i was no where near him, and asleep when the ban occurred... I would like to know how you "know" i was boxing. and as for me posting it here, well it seems to be the only way people can get you to reply, since you clearly bypass the petition area.

Lol.
Lol.
Lmao.
Lol.

Hmm have you been reading the updates on the website every time you patch the game?

Ill help you here, since you cannot fathom how he "caught" you. There have been several changes to the game which allows them to monitor whether or not you have 2 clients running on the same computer.

What changes?

From what I understand there is a little file or files, not sure which, that is a .DLL file(s) that allows them to monitor what you are using on your computer while you play, which include 2 boxing '2 clients running on the same computer for the computer illiterate',and 3rd party programs 'Any program that gives you a advantage such as Named spawn cycles and the like'.

If Rogean says you were banned for 2 boxing, then you were 2 boxing, plain and simple. Does not take a rocket scientist to understand how this file works or what it is used for especially since it was on the front page of the forum on what it was and how the .DLL worked.

This is how they caught you, he has all the proof he needs.

Grahm
10-30-2011, 04:27 AM
Actually....I box 1/2 of TR and I've never been caught....

Taken down trak many times, hence why even when i have 90 clients I still wipe...

vitalious
10-30-2011, 04:38 AM
These threads are so much better when i skip everyone's posts except for server staff!

Grahm
10-30-2011, 04:49 AM
Someone really needs to make a Hasbinbant GIF.

"But I haven't been bad, Well you HASBINBANT"

JayDee
10-30-2011, 04:58 AM
My friend boxed for over a year and never got caught

you guys must suck at everquest

Zenlina
10-30-2011, 05:33 AM
So many post for such a cliché kind of thread. You got hammered, move on. Go back and reread all the other idiots before you

Wudan
03-23-2012, 05:32 AM
The fact that hes wining about his ban in public forums to gather sympathy for himself rather than posting what he knows is the correct and proper method to appealing a ban in the petition forum.

My petition never got answered when I returned to P99 after several months of being away due to comp crash. I logged back to my account and all my characters were gone. I petitioned in the petition/exploit, waited couple of weeks never to get any answer so ... thats how the official channel works. It does not, or maybe just for some, idk. I dont see any viable reason why my petition would get ignored.:confused:

I just started new char and grind from zero. :cool:

bizzum
03-23-2012, 06:07 AM
Why did you necro a thread to tell us your dumb story.

Xeliso
03-23-2012, 06:25 AM
DONT TAZE ME BRO

Ashimar
03-23-2012, 07:40 AM
A. This isn't the Petition Forum.
B. You are guilty.
C. Good luck getting unbanned now with your public temper tantrum.
D. You are guilty.

Solution: CALL SWISHAHOUSE AND ABACAB, ATTORNEYS AT LOL.

Amelinda
03-23-2012, 10:03 AM
My petition never got answered when I returned to P99 after several months of being away due to comp crash. I logged back to my account and all my characters were gone. I petitioned in the petition/exploit, waited couple of weeks never to get any answer so ... thats how the official channel works. It does not, or maybe just for some, idk. I dont see any viable reason why my petition would get ignored.:confused:

I just started new char and grind from zero. :cool:

did you keep your post bumped?

realize it takes a long time to get an answer and there are thousands of posts there so if you don't bump your post it gets lost easily.

Scavrefamn
03-23-2012, 03:23 PM
I love Amelinda, her work is top notch.

Anyone who speaks ill of her should have his thumbs broken.
I play with several people in my home and none of us have fear of bans because none of us two box.

aerah
03-23-2012, 04:00 PM
did you keep your post bumped?


What is an acceptable amount of time to pass before the bump-age for a petition? Since we can't see anything else in the forum and just based on the volume you guys must get, what's considered appropriate vs. inappropriate?

Unfun
03-23-2012, 11:37 PM
submit a thread in the petition/exploit thread. If it is truly a mistake then it may get resolved by a GM. Good luck

username1337
03-24-2012, 07:21 AM
My petition never got answered when I returned to P99 after several months of being away due to comp crash. I logged back to my account and all my characters were gone. I petitioned in the petition/exploit, waited couple of weeks never to get any answer so ... thats how the official channel works. It does not, or maybe just for some, idk. I dont see any viable reason why my petition would get ignored.:confused:

I just started new char and grind from zero. :cool:

I know how you feel man.


did you keep your post bumped?

realize it takes a long time to get an answer and there are thousands of posts there so if you don't bump your post it gets lost easily.

In other words somehow hit the magically GM-acceptable bumping rate that makes it look like you are persistent but not desperate. Being in the "in-crowd" with the GMs seems to help in this department.

Lol.
Lol.
Lmao.
Lol.

Hmm have you been reading the updates on the website every time you patch the game?

Ill help you here, since you cannot fathom how he "caught" you. There have been several changes to the game which allows them to monitor whether or not you have 2 clients running on the same computer.

What changes?

From what I understand there is a little file or files, not sure which, that is a .DLL file(s) that allows them to monitor what you are using on your computer while you play, which include 2 boxing '2 clients running on the same computer for the computer illiterate',and 3rd party programs 'Any program that gives you a advantage such as Named spawn cycles and the like'.

If Rogean says you were banned for 2 boxing, then you were 2 boxing, plain and simple. Does not take a rocket scientist to understand how this file works or what it is used for especially since it was on the front page of the forum on what it was and how the .DLL worked.

This is how they caught you, he has all the proof he needs.

Sounds awful lot like a DLL injection...may be avaste was right about dsetup.dll being a virus....

username1337
03-24-2012, 07:36 AM
Anybody have any success decompiling "dsetup.dll"....I want to see what's in it.

Lyzard
03-24-2012, 10:50 AM
Me and my bro both play here on p99, although we both play from our own homes, occasionally I take my laptop across to his house and we play together. AFK's happen, phones ring, the pizzas get delivered, theres really no need to be logging out and shit just cos a fit bird pops up on the TV and you arent controlling your character for a minute.
When we do play together we do so without paranoia, because I don't believe for one second that any of the staff here at P99 would ban anyone without certain reasoning or proof. They have nothing to gain from banning people "on a whim" or because "they've got nothing better to do"

Barkingturtle
03-24-2012, 11:01 AM
If a fit bird pops up on the tv do you jerk yourselves or each other off?

Just curious how other cultures work, is all.

bluejam
03-24-2012, 11:10 AM
Me and my bro both play here on p99, although we both play from our own homes, occasionally I take my laptop across to his house and we play together. AFK's happen, phones ring, the pizzas get delivered, theres really no need to be logging out and shit just cos a fit bird pops up on the TV and you arent controlling your character for a minute.
When we do play together we do so without paranoia, because I don't believe for one second that any of the staff here at P99 would ban anyone without certain reasoning or proof. They have nothing to gain from banning people "on a whim" or because "they've got nothing better to do"
You haven't met Uthgaard, brew. Good thing he's history.

Wudan
03-24-2012, 05:40 PM
did you keep your post bumped?

realize it takes a long time to get an answer and there are thousands of posts there so if you don't bump your post it gets lost easily.

I am not native speaker so i am not relly sure what do u mean by bumping the thread. Never heard or read anything like this is needed to get answer....not cool at all :(

Humerox
03-24-2012, 08:05 PM
I am not native speaker so i am not relly sure what do u mean by bumping the thread. Never heard or read anything like this is needed to get answer....not cool at all :(

"Bumping" is posting a reply just to bring the original post back to the top of the thread. You usually see someone post nothing but "bump" or "bump to top" to achieve this goal.

lyyfeleech
03-24-2012, 08:25 PM
You haven't met Uthgaard, brew. Good thing he's history.

Uthgaard did more good for this server than most the people will ever know...

Quickfingers
03-25-2012, 01:47 AM
Uthgaard did more good for this server than most the people will ever know...

bluejam
03-25-2012, 05:48 PM
Uthgaard did more good for this server than most the people will ever know...
Too bad he also was a tumor.

Doublestep
03-25-2012, 06:04 PM
if you think about it tumor is a warning sign for cancer aka uthgaard was trying to save us

Wudan
03-26-2012, 06:33 AM
"Bumping" is posting a reply just to bring the original post back to the top of the thread. You usually see someone post nothing but "bump" or "bump to top" to achieve this goal.

Now thats just silly imho! I mean whats gonna happen if evreyone does it? What a nonsense... basically you are telling me I should spam or I dont get help.

I reckon petition should get answered no matter if you bump or not. Now I do realize this is free server so Im not saying its gotta happen in 1 day, but 2 weeks?

I mean I lost all my toons, that is pretty serious. Should I just bump it every day like a moron? This petition/exploit system obviously does not work properly so I dont understand why ppl who complain in forums about their problems get flamed for posting it there rather then petition/exploit section - I guess they tried, but did not BUMP ....meh :eek:

Humerox
03-26-2012, 07:11 AM
Not every day, lol. Sometimes petitions take a while because Amelinda has to forward the information to Rogean...I don't think anyone else has the capability to restore the characters.

Rogean has been extremely busy lately, so it could take weeks to get it taken care of...it could be done sooner, but always expect the worst.

Sometimes the petition queue can be VERY long...there's only a few people volunteering their time for this...remember, this is not a business.

That being said...keep a good attitude, bump your petition weekly, and maybe roll an alt account to pass the time away.

bluejam
03-27-2012, 01:01 AM
if you think about it tumor is a warning sign for cancer aka uthgaard was trying to save us
Your grasp of medical terms isn't your strongest suit. :(

Messianic
03-29-2012, 09:59 AM
Now thats just silly imho! I mean whats gonna happen if evreyone does it? What a nonsense... basically you are telling me I should spam or I dont get help.

I reckon petition should get answered no matter if you bump or not. Now I do realize this is free server so Im not saying its gotta happen in 1 day, but 2 weeks?

I mean I lost all my toons, that is pretty serious. Should I just bump it every day like a moron? This petition/exploit system obviously does not work properly so I dont understand why ppl who complain in forums about their problems get flamed for posting it there rather then petition/exploit section - I guess they tried, but did not BUMP ....meh :eek:

Dude, you just sound like a horrible whiner.

Yeah, they missed your petition. What are you gonna do, ask to speak to their manager and have them fired? Get over it.

The onus is on *you* to make sure services are completed. I dunno about anyone else, but after 2-3 weeks i would have bumped it and politely mentioned that it hadn't been taken care of - and maybe thanked them for the server in the process. Use common sense - sometimes people miss things, but if you're honest and not a dick about it, they're likely to understand.

Instead, you go around telling your sad story of woe to everyone you see and in the process malign people who are providing a free service. Just stop and let it go.

FoxxHound
03-29-2012, 11:35 AM
Getting banned sucks I bet.