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Bockscar
10-13-2011, 10:23 AM
Been wondering. If I wanted to, I'm pretty sure I could request an IP exemption for my "roommate" and box safely, having done it for years on live. Making it look legit is so easy, and if the way they verify you is by making the two characters run in opposite direction, I'm guessing scores of people get away with it.

Doors
10-13-2011, 10:26 AM
Now that Uthgaard is gone probably everyone.

Loke
10-13-2011, 10:33 AM
I don't know, if it was as high as 25% of the server population, it wouldn't really surprise me. Honestly, I feel like everyone with an IP exemption has done it at some point, no matter how minor. I mean, think about it; husband and wife both play and both have accounts. Husband is at home, wife is away for the weekend. Husband really really wants to transfer his [thing he wants transferred] to another character. How many people are going to see the harm on that guy logging on his wife character and doing a quick 2 minute transfer? How many people on this server do you honestly think have the integrity to wait those couple days? While it may not have caused any harm, that technically was still two boxing.

Then you have people who are at college or apartments with numerous wifi options, people who have access to their friends accounts with exemptions, etc... so yea, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it were upwards of 1/4 of the server.

Amelinda
10-13-2011, 10:47 AM
Been wondering. If I wanted to, I'm pretty sure I could request an IP exemption for my "roommate" and box safely, having done it for years on live. Making it look legit is so easy, and if the way they verify you is by making the two characters run in opposite direction, I'm guessing scores of people get away with it.

i have a variety of different tests i use. a variety of different 2-box catching tricks i use. i don't think i've ever said 'run in 2 different directions'

my favorite test took me several months to hit upon.

i'm not going to list my 2-boxing test techniques here. so people can go practice how to beat them. :)

how about you don't 2-box and then you don't have to worry about it? if you want to 2-box it's allowed on ez server.

Amelinda
10-13-2011, 10:48 AM
lack of proof-reading ftw! and i'm not a forum mod for rnf. so no edit for me.

SUSUGAM
10-13-2011, 11:04 AM
with the use of auto run, high APM tabbing, and in-game macros... i wonder what amelinda looks for. i dual-boxed on PEQ for 2-3 months, sometimes 3-4 box. always with no bots running. 2 is really easy to keep seamless, 3-4 is a pretty tedious just to perform the roles all at once.

that said, most people suck at hiding it. best bet is to run the players in different zones, like that one guy sitting in EC on his alt. no idea how he got caught though. maybe he couldnt carry on two conversations at once? maybe the GM made one type the ABC's forward and one of them type it backwards in unison?!

Orruar
10-13-2011, 11:25 AM
Has there been any discussion about a P99 clone where multi boxing is allowed? I'd throw down a couple hundred for the infrastructure cost, as I always loved 2 boxing back on Live. And saying "go 2 box on EZ Server" is retarded. EZ server is boring as hell.

nilbog
10-13-2011, 11:27 AM
Has there been any discussion about a P99 clone where multi boxing is allowed?

Fuck no.

Palemoon
10-13-2011, 11:33 AM
Has there been any discussion about a P99 clone where multi boxing is allowed? I'd throw down a couple hundred for the infrastructure cost, as I always loved 2 boxing back on Live. And saying "go 2 box on EZ Server" is retarded. EZ server is boring as hell.

boxing on p99 would make the server boring as hell too, and for the same reasons

Harrison
10-13-2011, 11:33 AM
Twoboxing ruins private servers of every kind. No competitive legitimacy.

Amelinda
10-13-2011, 11:57 AM
with the use of auto run, high APM tabbing, and in-game macros... i wonder what amelinda looks for. i dual-boxed on PEQ for 2-3 months, sometimes 3-4 box. always with no bots running. 2 is really easy to keep seamless, 3-4 is a pretty tedious just to perform the roles all at once.


i would never, ever, EVER use a method that would allow the use of autofollow or autorun or any type of macro or direction locking or that would be easy to fake. ever.

also :) i'm telling you. We have our ways of telling. :)

Diggles
10-13-2011, 12:11 PM
Amelinda turns you into an iksar and sees if it freaks you out.

true story

Daldaen
10-13-2011, 12:27 PM
Twoboxing ruins private servers of every kind. No competitive legitimacy.

How so?

Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin
10-13-2011, 12:44 PM
How so?

It cuts down player-to-player interaction.

Daldaen
10-13-2011, 12:46 PM
It cuts down player-to-player interaction.

Just like Powerleveling...?

Harrison
10-13-2011, 12:48 PM
Power leveling requires a second person.

"Argument" #1 nullified.

Daldaen
10-13-2011, 12:52 PM
Soloing then? For an argument based solely on player-player interaction I just don't see much of it here, atleast in the form of PuGing.

baloen
10-13-2011, 01:04 PM
The biggest problem with dual boxing on a private server is the lack of a subscription fee. On live I'm limited by how much cash I'm willing to sink in monthly subscriptions, two boxing wouldn't be too bad, but I'm not going to pay for four accounts for sure. On the private servers, as long as you had the computer resources to do so, you could load up as many accounts as you wanted which makes it pretty game breaking in my opinion. Whats the down side of running 4-5 accounts everytime I log in. 2-3 to group with, watch the tunnel, keep an eye on spawns, etc.

Murphy
10-13-2011, 01:13 PM
2boxing is boring

Hasbinbad
10-13-2011, 01:42 PM
Fuck no.
Mi amor.

Orruar
10-13-2011, 01:58 PM
Fuck no.

Is that the depth of the discussion you're willing to have, or are you saying there hasn't been any discussion?

Hasbinbad
10-13-2011, 02:16 PM
Is that the depth of the discussion you're willing to have, or are you saying there hasn't been any discussion?
I cannot speak for Nilbog of course, for His will is unknowable. However, I have been in the past commissioned to attempt a translation of the signs He sends with His will from His plane of existence. Allow me to interpret:
Has there been any discussion about a P99 clone where multi boxing is allowed? I'd throw down a couple hundred for the infrastructure cost, as I always loved 2 boxing back on Live. And saying "go 2 box on EZ Server" is retarded. EZ server is boring as hell.
Not only is the answer to your question a resounding and unmalleable "no," but if it wouldn't generate so much bad press on my project, I would permanently ban your IP from having any access to any Project 1999 resources just for asking. Then, I would research your friends, family, and acquaintances, and ban them for ever having associated with you. Then I would delete all the characters that were created on each of the previously banned accounts.
I apologize for the imperfection of my translation, for no normal human is truly capable of understanding His will.

jarshale
10-13-2011, 06:50 PM
Twoboxing ruins private servers of every kind. No competitive legitimacy.

This. Ez server is basically a game of "how many bots can I manage at once". If I wanted that I would play starcraft again.

YendorLootmonkey
10-13-2011, 08:50 PM
Shit, I can barely operate one character, let alone two.

Diggles
10-13-2011, 09:16 PM
two rangers can almost tank as good as one warrior/paladin/sk

badtargeter
10-13-2011, 11:05 PM
Among some other things, multiboxing really helped kill off live's population.

fishingme
10-14-2011, 11:12 AM
two rangers can almost tank as good as one warrior/paladin/sk

Shit, so one warrior/paladin/SK is two-boxing. Better re-roll asap dudes

azeth
10-14-2011, 11:14 AM
No poll? wtf