Be honest, which EQ graphics look better

[joetheman]

People keep telling me that the old graphics look better than the new ones. I find this hard to believe since the new graphics look much better to me. Will new graphics ever be an option again in the future of this server? If you think old graphics are better I want to hear a good explanation.

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[Hasbinbad]

http://i.imgur.com/N3FYs.jpg

[Hoggen]

They're just different. To each his own.

[Ektar]

In this example. a female wood elf became some sort of gremlin, and a male wood elf became orlando bloom with giant muscles. Note~ wood elves are not particularly good looking and are below average strength.

[lordyamish]

wtf...this is rnf...gtfo with this eq discussion shit

[Knuckle]

subtle troll is subtle

[OngorDrakan]

What a trollina.

[Messianic]

You should have diversified your answer choices. Ogre and Troll look indisputably better w/ velious models. Most other velious models are garbage.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

velious models. velious models .

[L1ch]

People keep telling me that the old graphics look better than the new ones. I find this hard to believe since the new graphics look much better to me. Will new graphics ever be an option again in the future of this server? If you think old graphics are better I want to hear a good explanation.


http://i.imgur.com/ZjMtS.jpg

[Pico]

thx for the image macro bro definitely laffed out loud

[Tommy_Wiseau]

lying is a sin

[joetheman]

please vote if u havent =). This include all new graphics btw...not just the wood elf.

[Mardur]

Those who prefer newer models just have inferior taste. Some people prefer McDonalds to sushi, to each their own.

The worst thing about the new models is the animations, which you can't really show off in screenshots. Everyone seems hunched over and they move choppily and awkwardly, as if they had something large lodged up their behind. This alone is the dealbreaker for me, watching everyone's character wobble around all hunched-over makes me feel like I'm playing a fantasy game complerely inhabited by geriatrics.

Everything that made the races unique and "EverQuesty" was lost in the new models, too. Ogres went from charmingly goofy and massive to generic tall muscular humans. Trolls became generic tall muscular humans with darker skin. Each race had a very unique look for each set of armor, and once again it all looks like generic whatever with the new models. Not to mention the models just aren't aesthetically pleasing, the eyes especially are fucking weird and creepy.

[Roanoke]

Those who prefer newer models just have inferior taste. Some people prefer McDonalds to sushi, to each their own.

The worst thing about the new models is the animations, which you can't really show off in screenshots. Everyone seems hunched over and they move choppily and awkwardly, as if they had something large lodged up their behind. This alone is the dealbreaker for me, watching everyone's character wobble around all hunched-over makes me feel like I'm playing a fantasy game complerely inhabited by geriatrics.

Everything that made the races unique and "EverQuesty" was lost in the new models, too. Ogres went from charmingly goofy and massive to generic tall muscular humans. Trolls became generic tall muscular humans with darker skin. Each race had a very unique look for each set of armor, and once again it all looks like generic whatever with the new models. Not to mention the models just aren't aesthetically pleasing, the eyes especially are fucking weird and creepy.


Bingo! It wasn't just that the models looked awkward, the animations we're 1000x worse.

[Uaellaen]

You should have diversified your answer choices. Ogre and Troll look indisputably better w/ velious models. Most other velious models are garbage.

what is a velious model? the model revamp came with luclin :o

[joetheman]

I do admit the animations were not the best in the new models,...but you guys have to admit, the old graphics look like blocks with basically no detail options for the user. the animations of the old blocks were good.....but they were blocks. The armor is one of the main things that is shitty about the old graphics. You can hardly tell what people are wearing. Also, the user doesn't have an option to Show/Hide helm with old graphics. So they have to deal with wearing a block(helmet) on their block(head).

[JenJen]

newer models are shit and that is the end of discussion.

[Roanoke]

I do admit the animations were not the best in the new models,...but you guys have to admit, the old graphics look like blocks with basically no detail options for the user. the animations of the old blocks were good.....but they were blocks. The armor is one of the main things that is shitty about the old graphics. You can hardly tell what people are wearing. Also, the user doesn't have an option to Show/Hide helm with old graphics. So they have to deal with wearing a block(helmet) on their block(head).

First of all, if I gave a flying fuck about graphics I wouldn't be playing EverQuest. Secondly, this is a classic server trying to recreate the feel of the old game where the new models did not exist.

Blocks? What is this, Minecraft? Get the fuck out.

[joetheman]

@ Roanoke: Im asking you the same thing, is this Minecraft? lol

[Juugox2]

i cant stand new models ever notice they look like there holding a big ass turtle head when they run?

[SyanideGas]

newer models are shit and that is the end of discussion.

[Daldaen]

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/i/d/id21484.png

vs

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/i/d/id2711.png

[Mardur]

I do admit the animations were not the best in the new models,...but you guys have to admit, the old graphics look like blocks with basically no detail options for the user. the animations of the old blocks were good.....but they were blocks. The armor is one of the main things that is shitty about the old graphics. You can hardly tell what people are wearing. Also, the user doesn't have an option to Show/Hide helm with old graphics. So they have to deal with wearing a block(helmet) on their block(head).

Are we playing the same EverQuest? First of all, show/hide helm works with old models the same it works for the new ones. Second of all, there's nothing "blocky" about the old models. Sure they have less polygons and lower resolution textures, but if anything they're more lively than the newer models considering their fluid movement and animations.

I completely don't understand the "can't tell what people are wearing" thing. The older models are OBJECTIVELY by far way more unique and recognizable than the generic newer models. Let's take a look at some screenshots. Which of these looks better to you?

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1992/1243655-race_erudite2_super.jpg http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1992/965960-race_erudite_luclin_super.jpg

If you answered the right image, I'm sorry, you're wrong. Apparently Erudites upgraded their textile manufacturing from cloths and silk to some strange plasticy polyester shit imported straight from Azeroth. Also, why did they make Erudites look like Mr. T? My God.

Most races had very unique armor stylings that reflected the race itself. Keeping with the Erudite example (completely random, this goes for every race because the new models ruined everything):

http://i51.tinypic.com/313rdvs.jpg

Look at how cool this design is. Erudite, a primarily magic-using race, has some sort of metallic style robe graphic with plate equipped. Those "bolted" metal plates on the breastplate are pretty damn cool as well. Someone had a great idea when they designed these textures, so wouldn't the new models just do it again with higher resolution textures?

http://i54.tinypic.com/30rtqn4.jpg

Oh, no. Just generic platemail again. Like every other race with the old models. Boring and unimaginative. This might work well for Half Elf armor design, considering their original classic platemail had fancy engravings and such. Except they took that one race's armor style and applied it to fucking everyone. Style and creativity > higher resolution textures and higher polygon count.

TLDR: If you voted new models you're an idiot. I think I'd even take the alpha graphics over Luclin, I mean look at those fucking pants and boots. I want those for my dwarf asap.

http://i54.tinypic.com/244z1v7.jpg

Yeah. Definitely cooler than Luclin models.

[joetheman]

You have a good point man. The new Erudites look really dumb. I would prefer old Erudites, Iksars, Dwarfs, Halfings, and Gnomes but new everything else.

[Kassel]

lol been forever since i have seen the alpha graphics

[purest]

Original models are the best model design out of any MMO period. Every face choice for every race has personality in spades.

SoE had the right direction with Velious armor textures, too. For Luclin, all they had to do was take the models everyone loved and up the poly count a bit and go to high-res textures. Instead they tried to reinvent the damn wheel.

[Popt]

In this example. a female wood elf became some sort of gremlin, and a male wood elf became orlando bloom with giant muscles. Note~ wood elves are not particularly good looking and are below average strength.

[Diggles]

doesnt the wood elf description at character select say wood elves are gorgeous or is that half elves

[Juugox2]

yea just like mardur said they ruined armor looks with luclin models to me aswell

[Moggster]

wtb ala carte style pick and choose what u want to see and run? prolly heavy coding for that option tho, new DE models > old DE models imo

[Rangerboy]

I have a split opinion about which set of graphics is better. I would say overall the new graphics are better, but I really like the old graphics since they bring back memories. It would be nice to be able to choose I guess, but no biggie.

[Tadzi]

If you answered the right image, I'm sorry, you're wrong. Apparently Erudites upgraded their textile manufacturing from cloths and silk to some strange plasticy polyester shit imported straight from Azeroth. Also, why did they make Erudites look like Mr. T? My God.

"Why did they make erudites, a race with dark colored skin, have similar facial features of someone in real life with dark colored skin instead of making all the races have white people facial structure."

a lot racism in the modern age is subtle, often overlooked and not even seen as racism by even the person expressing it.

[Pico]

half the reason i still play this shit game 10 years later is the graphics still have character to them, as opposed to either ultra cartoony or over-the-top stuff you see in every other mmo

[vinx]

half the reason i still play this shit game 10 years later is the graphics still have character to them, as opposed to either ultra cartoony or over-the-top stuff you see in every other mmo
Same, its the reason i play EQ and Guild wars > EQll and WoW

[Arclyte]

"Why did they make erudites, a race with dark colored skin, have similar facial features of someone in real life with dark colored skin instead of making all the races have white people facial structure."

a lot racism in the modern age is subtle, often overlooked and not even seen as racism by even the person expressing it.

you almost got me

[Mardur]

"Why did they make erudites, a race with dark colored skin, have similar facial features of someone in real life with dark colored skin instead of making all the races have white people facial structure."

a lot racism in the modern age is subtle, often overlooked and not even seen as racism by even the person expressing it.

I know I've said this a a lot but I may actually be accurate this time when I say you sir, you are the dumbest person on this forum.

[Sirbanmelotz]

imo i liked the new iksar and dark elf models the best, they all looked badass

[Grahm]

Never used, or liked any new models EXCEPT for the iksar. I thought they were bad ass. But even to this day when i think troll, I think big fat dudes, not some tiny piece of shit like in WoW

[Azu]

They're just different. To each his own.

[Transient]

I hated how they changed the flying kick models for humans and 2h auto swing was really kinda meh afterward. I did kind of prefer the new Barbarians because the old ones just kinda looked like Larry Bird with a beard. Troll and Ogre went downhill as well as Erudite, but I did enjoy the newer dark elf and iksar a little bit.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

luclin flying kick animation was a god damn joke

[Zadrian]

Also, the buff/heal casting animation was stupid.

[Seaweedpimp]

luclin flying kick animation was a god damn joke


As was offhand swing.

And 2h swing of any kind.



and the way the males sit down.... are you fucking serious?


IMO tho the worst were ogre animations.

I really didnt mind the halfling.

[joetheman]

Thanks everyone for the replies. You guys actually made me realize the flaws in new graphics that I never even realized before. Therefore, I changed my mind and appreciate the old graphics for what they are worth.