How I group people into one of two categories.

[Xadion]

... I group them by their opinion of Final Fantasy 8...

Group A) Smart, realize that FF8 is shit
Group B) Dumb, think FF8 "is the shit! dawg"

discuss...flame on...

this is my bad attempt to start flame trolls!

[Autotune]

FF8 > you


/thread.

[Diggles]

ff8 was about as bad as ff10-2

[Tommy_Wiseau]

Group A) Smart, realize that FF8 is shit

sup bro

[Jjlent]

ff7 was AWESOME, ff8 sucked donkey penii, ff9 was sweet as hell

[burkemi5]

ff8 was very average, not great, not terrible, playable, but average.

[purest]

Group A) is overly opinionated about a final fantasy game; neckbearded virgin, hasn't clipped disgusting toenails in 4 years, multiple anime wall scrolls in mom's basement, masturbates to ff cutscenes, has special bond with ff7 because appealed to him during his angsty high school years as a loser with no social skills, writes fan fiction in spare time, has a dark elf necro named Xxsephirothxx in Everquest, argues about whether Tifa or Aeris is the hottest on ff livejournal community in spare time, skid marks on all his underwear

Group B) doesn't give a shit; happy, well-adjusted adult

[Daldaen]

ff9 > all

http://free-pianosheetmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Final-Fantasy-9.jpg

Baller.

[Autotune]

FF8, FF9, FF10, FF(anything but 10-2) > FF7

[Diggles]

autotune i will remove you from friends for that comment!~

[Diggles]

TAKE IT BACK

[Autotune]

I won't. FF7 was overrated. It was good, but not the "end all, be all" whatever people seem to think it was.

[Jjlent]

dude ff7 was the best FF, ff9 was a very close second

[Diggles]

FF7 Crisis Core was the best.

[Honest]

Although I'm a huge fan of FFVII, Final Fantasy Tactics has to be my favorite. Awesome replay value.

[Autotune]

Final Fantasy Tactics Awesome replay value.

[Grahm]

I won't. FF7 was overrated. It was good, but not the "end all, be all" whatever people seem to think it was.

fuck you. I thought FF10 or whatever it was where you played blitzball was pretty fuckin good. FF7 the best tho

[bizzum]

What if you thought that FF8 wasn't really that good, but you thought that the card game was kick ass. That was the part of the game that I thought was sweet.

Also, does anybody get fucking FF9's card game, I tried to understand but it just is way to random, even when you take all the stats into account.

[JenJen]

what is this doing in rnf

[Alarti0001]

I won't. FF7 was overrated. It was good, but not the "end all, be all" whatever people seem to think it was.

this

[SUSUGAM]

FFT all the way, ff8 was good. :)

[deathgirl]

what purest said

[Bubbles]

Although I'm a huge fan of FFVII, Final Fantasy Tactics has to be my favorite. Awesome replay value.

I still play this game on my old skool PS when farming stuff in EQ. One of the best games ever made. I still own a PS One for FFT, and Harvest Moon: Back to Nature. heh. One more defensible than the other ;)

[baub]

7 so good that threads about 8 become threads about 7 ~

8 was definitely one of the worst of the series

7 has a special place in my heart for nostalgia's sake

tactics was great

3(6) was the best. anyone who argues this is just falling into 7's nostalgia trap, or is straight up bad

[Iondera]

Was about to make a comment about the failing of this thread. baub saved it though VI > all.

[Autotune]

7 so good that threads about 8 become threads about 7 ~

8 was definitely one of the worst of the series

7 has a special place in my heart for nostalgia's sake

tactics was great

3(6) was the best. anyone who argues this is just falling into 7's nostalgia trap, or is straight up bad

I'd play 8 over 7 any day.

7 is the first car, that first bike ride so on and so forth. It's you hanging with your little buddies and talking about how girls have cooties.

8 is that girl you passed up talking to because your little buddies said she had cooties when you were 8. Now she is damn good looking but banging some guy half your worth but she's okay and at the end of the day is satisfied.


Most people can't stand to go back and replay 7 anyhow, it's just not as good as they remember it. I tried and couldn't do it and even till this day haven't beaten it (i got bored). I've beat 8 and even went back and beat it again early last year or the year before (it was still good). I'm not saying 7 was shit, it wasn't, but it damn sure isn't as great as some of you think (as in overrall, i'm sure some of you think glue tastes great).

6 is/was a better FF game than 7 will ever be. Tactics is definitely one of my favorites ( only FF game i could actually watch someone else play and get into it )

FF7 will always be the most overrated FF game ever and FF8 will always be overshadowed by it. I think most FF players don't like 8 because they couldn't grasp the story at the time. Just me tho


Also, the card game in 8 was epic.

[Bubbles]

FF7 was like Kurt Cobain for Generation X.

He wasn't great because he was the best musician ever, best guitarist of his era, had any form of longevity or replayability...

What Kurt Cobain did was inspire a whole generation of new musicians to pick up a guitar and achieve an even higher level of greatness.

No one since Lennon + McCartney inspired more people to become musicians than Kurt.. And no one since Super Mario and Dragon Warrior inspired more gamers to get into RPGs than Square + FF7. It made that genre mainstream, like a goddamn revolution.

[Bubbles]

meh why is this rnf. cant edit.. point is: doesnt matter if 7 was good, bad, or ugly..it was important.

[Kassel]

You silly kids with you 7, 8 & 9's

Ff1 2 & 3, add in some Dragon Warrior and you got some damn fine games

[pickled_heretic]

FFT was pretty easy, I can't say I didn't have fun flaring the shit out of the entire field with my maxed out calculator... No replay value though.

[Harrison]

FF7 was very far from my first Final Fantasy, and to say that it's the only reason anyone enjoys it is presumptuous and silly.

[pickled_heretic]

Master Race FF4 (FF2 american release) here btw

I also enjoyed 1 and 6 (FF3 american release)

the rest has mostly been dogshit

[jarshale]

7 was my favorite, next was 6, then 9, then 3.

Chrono Trigger above all those though.

[Lazortag]

7 is way overrated, 6 is the clear winner. I'm attractive irl and I go to an ivy league school so my opinion on this matter is the correct one.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

6 wins 8 blows 10 is good even with the cutscenes

<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-5FTJxfV3pc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

deal w/ it

[Honest]

Chrono Trigger above all those though.


Another Fantastic RPG. Still have my copy on my SNES.

[Tumdumm]

HOLY FUCK I M REALLY MAD NOW

nah i wish i was mad
you all musta never played triple triad if you hate on ff8

also, if theres an afterlife & its anything like ff7 id probably already have spontaneously combusted

[Zadrian]

This thread makes no sense because Xenogears is better than all of these games listed.

FYI, Final Fantasy did start before number 7, for those of you that are unaware. Go 3.

Super Mario RPG

[Honest]

Xenogears and Mario RPG were good ones too. Legend of Mana was good too.

[Autotune]

on the subject of other 'good' rpgs (and hasn't had a mention).


Star Ocean: The second story was good. I had well over 150hrs in that game before I beat it and never did everything.

Suikoden series has some good titles in it as well.

BoF 3 was good.

[Honest]

I was a fan of the Lunar series but havent played any of the other games yet. Star Ocean was a lot of fun although I never did get too far in that game. Has anyone played the Final Fantasy on the ps3? I was thinking about getting it for shits and giggles.

[Diggles]

Dark Cloud was p fun

[Autotune]

Dark Cloud was p fun

ah, I was trying to remember what that game was called haha. It was pretty damn fun.

[Mardur]

I won't. FF7 was overrated. It was good, but not the "end all, be all" whatever people seem to think it was.

I agree with you but if you think it's the worst FF you may be the biggest idiot.

[Autotune]

I agree with you but if you think it's the worst FF you may be the biggest idiot.

never said it was the worst.

[Mardur]

FF8, FF9, FF10, FF(anything but 10-2) > FF7

Fine, second worse to 10-2 then (which I've still never played).

I think most in the series pre-psx were better than 7, and 9 was the best on the system, but to think 8, 10, 12, 13, etc were better is duuuuumb.

[Honest]

I enjoyed FFX, wasn't anything groundbreaking but still a good game.

[Autotune]

Fine, second worse to 10-2 then (which I've still never played).

I think most in the series pre-psx were better than 7, and 9 was the best on the system, but to think 8, 10, 12, 13, etc were better is duuuuumb.

i don't think 13 is better either.

8, 10, 12 yeah.

10-2 was horrible, and 13 wasn't much better. FF crystal chronicles wasn't that great either.

I'm not saying it was leaps and bounds below those, i just don't think it's better.

[Autotune]

i know you see


FF8, FF9, FF10, FF(anything but 10-2) > FF7

and are going off that, but it was mostly just a troll to get more posts due to RnF being slow.

10-2 was just right off hand bad enough i couldn't even troll to say it was > ff7 lol.


Out of all the FF games 5 is my favorite and 6 would be next inline. I had to play 5 on a snes emulator and it was a translation of the old jap version. I think they rereleased it not to long ago too, not sure how many have actually played it tho.

[falkun]

Final Fantasy Tactics has to be my favorite. Awesome replay value.

This.

FFT was pretty easy, I can't say I didn't have fun flaring the shit out of the entire field with my maxed out calculator... No replay value though.

That's crazy talk. The "anyone can be anything" party system allows you to replay with different class combinations or even put self-imposed restrictions on yourself (like the solo challenge, the pure class challenges, etc.). Even FF7 has more strict class structure than FFT. Yes, FFT may not have all of the extra side stuff to do of some of the other Final Fantasies, but its a great plot and the class system adds an amazing amount of replay value.

[Tappin]

FF7 was good, but it's just a band wagon... Saying you like it is like is just another cliche "old school" gamer thing to do.

Pretty sure anyone who thinks FF8 is bad probably never figured out how to use the GF junction system. I wouldn't say 8 is BETTER than 7, but it was definitely a lot more fun. I played 7 so many times before 8 came out and never got past disc 2 before just getting bored of it.

The music was better in 8, most of the characters were better in 8, graphics were of course better in 8. The card game was awesome.

FFX was fun, but the characters made awful. I think had FFX released on PS1 with PS1 graphics, it would have flopped. The only reason I liked it was because of how good it looked when PS2 first came out... But it was the easiest FF game I've played. Like 35 hours of gameplay time my first completion.

Someone mentioned Crystal Chronicles... That game was awful, probably because it was for Gamecube, or maybe because it was nothing like other FF games, and I expected it to be. The multiplayer version of the game looked like fun.

And a a less popular MMO that I thought rocked was Skies of Arcadia Legends. It sucked because it was on the Gamecube, other than that it was awesome. Started off a bit slow, like most RPGs do... and some of the characters were.. stupid, but it's a reaaally long MMO with a lot of additional side questing to do. Pretty sure my played time was like 120 hours on it or something.

[L1ch]

GET OFF MY LAWN

http://www.yourffs.com/games/ff3/images/boxartoriginal.jpg

[Harrison]

http://www.themoderndaypirates.com/pirates/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ff1-nes_all.jpg
You get off MY lawn, youngin'!

[L1ch]

http://i.imgur.com/iHB7a.gif

[L1ch]

FF1 was my first as well but yo lets be real 3 > 1.

[Xadion]

[IMG]
You get off MY lawn, youngin'!

respect... My brother made me farm money for him by elf time to get him money for the silver sword...then he would skip earth cave 'bc you can' and come back and kill litch then go back in time.

as for all you fags trying to defend 8, lol. And yes crisis core was great, as for generational favorites.

NES: 1 and 2, 1 is classic and 2 is ambitious
SNES: 4 was success of what they wanted 2 to be and 6 was moving the entire platform of video games into a deep story telling platform.
PSX: Tactics just is epic, 7 brought us much and 9 also did some big things but was dismissed bc of 'kid' characters.
PS2: 10 was fun.

have not liked any after...sadly...

[Xadion]

no edit..

I mean 'console' FFs, I liked crisiscore a hell of a lot more than FF12

[Chubbler]

VII was my favorite and I first played it 5-6 grade. Not as an angry high school student. VIII wasn't terrible but just a let down after playing VII with such enjoyment. Materia system > Magic BS that VIII had.

Tactics was the shit, that is all.

[Diggles]

Crisis Core was such a refreshing take on FF and it had a baller storyline

[Tommy_Wiseau]

junction system in ff8 was way too complicated, you basically never got items, etc

game was just bad bro

[burkemi5]

GET OFF MY LAWN

http://www.yourffs.com/games/ff3/images/boxartoriginal.jpg

I was gonna start working on a paper I have to write... but i saw this picture.. and am now going to download znes and this .rom. FTW.

[Hasbinbad]

http://www.themoderndaypirates.com/pirates/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ff1-nes_all.jpg
You get off MY lawn, youngin'!
This is the only worthwhile post in this entire thread.

[azeth]

I posted my top 10 RPG list in 2006 on the FOH boards:

"1. ffvii
2. chronotrigger
3. symphony of the night
4. suikoden II
5. breath of fire III
6. xenogear
7. ffiii
8. star ocean II (look, i agree with you and i'm sorry)
9. ocarina of time (if that doesn't count then Fallout II)
10. everquest "

[Honest]

oooo i forgot all about Breath of Fire III. Anyone ever play any of the dragonquest games?

[Autotune]

I posted my top 10 RPG list in 2006 on the FOH boards:

"1. ffvii
2. chronotrigger
3. symphony of the night
4. suikoden II
5. breath of fire III
6. xenogear
7. ffiii
8. star ocean II (look, i agree with you and i'm sorry)
9. ocarina of time (if that doesn't count then Fallout II)
10. everquest "

Baller status earned.

[Harrison]

Wizardry 5 people. l2map with graphing paper!

[Tommy_Wiseau]

good list azeth and sotn is greatest game of all time imo

[Mardur]

That's crazy talk. The "anyone can be anything" party system allows you to replay with different class combinations or even put self-imposed restrictions on yourself (like the solo challenge, the pure class challenges, etc.). Even FF7 has more strict class structure than FFT. Yes, FFT may not have all of the extra side stuff to do of some of the other Final Fantasies, but its a great plot and the class system adds an amazing amount of replay value.

I think what I disliked most about FF7 is that it started the whole "every character can have the same abilities as everyone else" that really destroyed individuality besides weapons and limit breaks. FF10 and FF12 had these systems too, but at least FF7 didn't have a complete shit storyline and cast of characters like those games.

RPG gameplay is pretty damn basic, the only thing that you really have control over to give you an edge is character customization. This is why games like FF1, FF3j, and FF5 didn't have to have super compelling storylines; they were fun because you could play them over and over with different class combinations.

Then you have games like FF4j and FF6j, where each character is "locked in to" a specific class. This worked for these games because they were driven by the storyline and characters. If you were able to turn Terra into a Berserker, the game wouldn't make much sense.

Unfortunately now we're given Final Fantasy titles devoid of character customization, interesting plotlines, or interesting characters. Buying a Final Fantasy game since 9 (the last good one) is like getting on a bullet train and flying straight into a pile of liquid shit.

[Autotune]

I think what I disliked most about FF7 is that it started the whole "every character can have the same abilities as everyone else" that really destroyed individuality besides weapons and limit breaks. FF10 and FF12 had these systems too, but at least FF7 didn't have a complete shit storyline and cast of characters like those games.

RPG gameplay is pretty damn basic, the only thing that you really have control over to give you an edge is character customization. This is why games like FF1, FF3j, and FF5 didn't have to have super compelling storylines; they were fun because you could play them over and over with different class combinations.

Then you have games like FF4j and FF6j, where each character is "locked in to" a specific class. This worked for these games because they were driven by the storyline and characters. If you were able to turn Terra into a Berserker, the game wouldn't make much sense.

Unfortunately now we're given Final Fantasy titles devoid of character customization, interesting plotlines, or interesting characters. Buying a Final Fantasy game since 9 (the last good one) is like getting on a bullet train and flying straight into a pile of liquid shit.

I liked FF12 up until i no longer had to do anything but move my characters around. They were unbeatable. I literally drove them around and owned every fucking thing in the game.

[Xadion]

do not get me started on castlevania azeth


rondo is NOT god!

[Xadion]

mardur, you do realize that espers started the 'everyone can get everything' its just 6 everyone had a unique ability and did learn certain things faster and whom stats generaly aimed to a type of class, and yes before espers fully opened up to all it was 'standard' classes

anywho, I agree with you...and same in mmo's I like group balance..not wow lets all dps!

[Mardur]

I liked FF12 up until i no longer had to do anything but move my characters around. They were unbeatable. I literally drove them around and owned every fucking thing in the game.

I enjoyed FF12 through about the first 60% or so, even though the characters were always terrible. Even their names were generic... Vaan, Ashe, Fran... although I guess that's a good thing since I never would have remembered them if they were more than 4 letters.

Anyways, the biggest problem is that FF12 pretends to have a storyline throughout the whole thing when it really doesn't. It borrows tons of references from Final Fantasy Tactics, a game with great characters and plot, and tries to fool you into thinking it'll develop in an interesting manner like FFT.

Final Fantasy 12 was the only game I've ever played that I didn't realize I had just defeated the final boss. This should be testament enough to how terrible it is.

You think there's a storyline there, and you think it's getting interesting, but nothing is ever expanded on or explained, not even in the ending. Matter of fact, the ending is the worst piece of "and they all lived happily ever after" bullshit I've ever seen. Like, the game was never about the characters, everything revolved around political intrigue and those god-like things at the end. Yet when you beat the game it's like oh hey, all these idiots you were forced to play for the past 40 hours are all happy they saved the world or something, actually they don't even know what they did because this game sucked so much.

Not to mention it had the worst "skill up" system of any RPG ever. The sphere grid was bad enough, and they stole that and bastardized it. The upgrades were all completely pointless except those uber abilities that allowed you to destroy any boss in the game. So obviously you went straight for those and didn't really give a shit about the rest since it was all you needed to beat the game.

Not to mention with the Gambit system, yeah, eventually the game just played itself for you and you watched. This just so happened to be the worst game to implement such a system, considering there was nothing worth watching. It's like the entire thing was designed to be a monumental waste of time.

[Mardur]

mardur, you do realize that espers started the 'everyone can get everything' its just 6 everyone had a unique ability and did learn certain things faster and whom stats generaly aimed to a type of class, and yes before espers fully opened up to all it was 'standard' classes

anywho, I agree with you...and same in mmo's I like group balance..not wow lets all dps!

Yeah, I know what you mean about 6. That's why generally when I play a new game I never equip espers. Even with the esper system, characters still felt very unique from each other. This is mostly because a) the "class" abilities were usually very powerful and useful and b) stat / gear choice. FF6 starts to go in the shitter in the World of Ruin, since everyone can just spam super powerful magic all day long. Enemies do the same thing, so the game quickly becomes about using characters who can use the best items (in other words, who can obtain 128 MBlock through equipment). But in the world of balance, there's a huge difference between characters like Gau and Cyan and I can really appreciate that. Especially before espers, characters are very unique and one-dimensional (in a good way). FF7's materia system just allows you to swap abilities among characters willy-nilly.

FF6: Do I bring Celes with her magic abilities and superior defensive equipment, or Sabin who can destroy things with his Bum Rush ability?

FF7: Do I want to bring the chick who punches things, or the guy who shoots things?

[Autotune]

I enjoyed FF12 through about the first 60% or so, even though the characters were always terrible. Even their names were generic... Vaan, Ashe, Fran... although I guess that's a good thing since I never would have remembered them if they were more than 4 letters.

Anyways, the biggest problem is that FF12 pretends to have a storyline throughout the whole thing when it really doesn't. It borrows tons of references from Final Fantasy Tactics, a game with great characters and plot, and tries to fool you into thinking it'll develop in an interesting manner like FFT.

Final Fantasy 12 was the only game I've ever played that I didn't realize I had just defeated the final boss. This should be testament enough to how terrible it is.

You think there's a storyline there, and you think it's getting interesting, but nothing is ever expanded on or explained, not even in the ending. Matter of fact, the ending is the worst piece of "and they all lived happily ever after" bullshit I've ever seen. Like, the game was never about the characters, everything revolved around political intrigue and those god-like things at the end. Yet when you beat the game it's like oh hey, all these idiots you were forced to play for the past 40 hours are all happy they saved the world or something, actually they don't even know what they did because this game sucked so much.

Not to mention it had the worst "skill up" system of any RPG ever. The sphere grid was bad enough, and they stole that and bastardized it. The upgrades were all completely pointless except those uber abilities that allowed you to destroy any boss in the game. So obviously you went straight for those and didn't really give a shit about the rest since it was all you needed to beat the game.

Not to mention with the Gambit system, yeah, eventually the game just played itself for you and you watched. This just so happened to be the worst game to implement such a system, considering there was nothing worth watching. It's like the entire thing was designed to be a monumental waste of time.

I didn't go straight for them, I actually spent a ton of time in the game getting lost in the the crystal maze, whatever the fuck (which is harder than the rest of the game). I ran around in there trying to kill the hidden bosses, familiarize the maze and find goodies. I only later realized that the skills i got while in there and the gambit setup i used for it would allow me to just rape everything after it.

The story was meh. I when I got out of the maze finally I stopped playing for a few months. When I finally just seen it and figured, what the hell, I picked it up, put it in, boarded the ship and then beat the game like 5mins later.

[Airdefier]

I loved FF7, FF8 has a place in my heart. it was like futuristic military and the gardens where like different little countries. FF9 was very good as well.

[Feachie]

i like this thread. my first rpg was dragon warrior, got it with my nintendo power subscription in 1988.

my favorite rpg's in no particular order:
castlevania: sotn
secret of mana (seiken densetsu 2)
dragon quest
legend of dragoon
chrono cross (chrono trigger is yet another good but overrated game, glenn just happens to be my love)
d20 modern
blue dragon
ffiv
suikoden
and if we're considering ocarina of time an rpg...metal gear solid :P

final fantasy IV was my favorite final fantasy. VII was ok, but it's a cookie cutter squaresoft rpg at this point.
final fantasy 8, x2, 11, 12, 13...sucked. imo they lost what made the ff series final fantasy. square just needs to hire akira toriyama for their next rpg and stop trying to release huge cinematic events, just fucking make a good game.

[soup]

7 so good that threads about 8 become threads about 7 ~

8 was definitely one of the worst of the series

7 has a special place in my heart for nostalgia's sake

tactics was great

3(6) was the best. anyone who argues this is just falling into 7's nostalgia trap, or is straight up bad

first person to win the thread

[Xadion]

wildarms series

[Honest]

wildarms series

Wild Arms was a good series too, at least the first 2, i dont remember playing anything after that.

[Xadion]

Wild Arms was a good series too, at least the first 2, i dont remember playing anything after that.

I skipped wildarms2 bc I heard it was shit....but we also hear that ff8 is bearable for one reason or another.

anyhow, I liked wildcards 3, 4 is okay.. And 5 is great, I would say on par with 3.. I am just now playing 2 on psn and it seems quite good so far. Also playing through 1 on the ps2 remake and am loving it...except the scan for towns and shit...I hate that part of the wildarms series.

[Autotune]

i like this thread. my first rpg was dragon warrior, got it with my nintendo power subscription in 1988.

my favorite rpg's in no particular order:
castlevania: sotn
secret of mana (seiken densetsu 2)
dragon quest
legend of dragoon
chrono cross (chrono trigger is yet another good but overrated game, glenn just happens to be my love)
d20 modern
blue dragon
ffiv
suikoden
and if we're considering ocarina of time an rpg...metal gear solid :P

final fantasy IV was my favorite final fantasy. VII was ok, but it's a cookie cutter squaresoft rpg at this point.
final fantasy 8, x2, 11, 12, 13...sucked. imo they lost what made the ff series final fantasy. square just needs to hire akira toriyama for their next rpg and stop trying to release huge cinematic events, just fucking make a good game.

your opinion doesn't matter after you talk about how Chrono Trigger is overrated.

[Glitch]

wildarms series

omg wait.

wait, wait, wait wait.

stop the thread.

did you BEAT WILD ARMS 1?! I couldn't figure out what the fuck to do after getting that giant robot.
There was some big dome thing that I couldn't figure out. I tried everything and was lost forever and gave up.

[burkemi5]

omg wait.

wait, wait, wait wait.

stop the thread.

did you BEAT WILD ARMS 1?! I couldn't figure out what the fuck to do after getting that giant robot.
There was some big dome thing that I couldn't figure out. I tried everything and was lost forever and gave up.

dude gamefaqs.com

[Lazortag]

your opinion doesn't matter after you talk about how Chrono Trigger is overrated.

How is chrono trigger not overrated?

None of the characters are very well developed or even engaging, there's little subtlety in the game and all of the side quests and encounters are completely spelled out for you with no room left for the player to figure things out on their own. In other RPG's in its era you actually had to think for more than 2 seconds to get by some of the more difficult parts in the game, whereas Chrono Trigger was generally way too easy. I also didn't feel the time travel element of the game was handled very well (I remember some chests where if you opened them in the past, you could still open them in the future for example... I know it's small but it's still kind of lame and makes the game less immersive).

I did really like that one world with the really advanced civilization that I think was around ~15000 BCE or something. That's probably one of my favorite parts of any RPG. The rest of the game seemed a lot less inspired though.

[Glitch]

dude gamefaqs.com

I was 8.

[Feachie]

your opinion doesn't matter after you talk about how Chrono Trigger is overrated.

i can talk about how overrated something is but still enjoy it for what it is.

somewhat related (http://i.imgur.com/bFeoW.jpg)

[Autotune]

How is chrono trigger not overrated?

None of the characters are very well developed or even engaging, there's little subtlety in the game and all of the side quests and encounters are completely spelled out for you with no room left for the player to figure things out on their own. In other RPG's in its era you actually had to think for more than 2 seconds to get by some of the more difficult parts in the game, whereas Chrono Trigger was generally way too easy. I also didn't feel the time travel element of the game was handled very well (I remember some chests where if you opened them in the past, you could still open them in the future for example... I know it's small but it's still kind of lame and makes the game less immersive).

I did really like that one world with the really advanced civilization that I think was around ~15000 BCE or something. That's probably one of my favorite parts of any RPG. The rest of the game seemed a lot less inspired though.

I've never thought of Chrono Trigger being rated so high in the first place. From everything I've ever seen/heard about the game, it's just a 'great game'. Anything less and it would be just a "meh, game" which hardly comes to mind when I think of Chrono Trigger.

Could be slightly overrated, but that could describe any game.

[Xadion]

omg wait.

wait, wait, wait wait.

stop the thread.

did you BEAT WILD ARMS 1?! I couldn't figure out what the fuck to do after getting that giant robot.
There was some big dome thing that I couldn't figure out. I tried everything and was lost forever and gave up.

LOL the end of WildArms 1 - if your not ultra prepared and OP is very hard because you have to fuck around forever to figure out what the hell to do- for me I always hoarded those cure/heal all berries so I had a bunch and made it to the end-ish area with puzzles but there was a center room with a save/restore so you could make a little home base there and adventure out / reset etc as you figure it out....but yes walkthrough's are the best for that- also the part near the end where you have to go around the fucking ocean..gah.

Wonder how nicely the remake of WA1 does these things- I havent had time to make it past the prolouges in it lol- just finished the "main" characters and am doing the "treasurehunters" prolouge now- and imo the treasurehunter and his rat have the best backstory- I thought it was cool that you only saw it if you left your game on the title screen for a bit- when you got to that place in the actual game it was like "ohhh!!!"

[karsten]

your opinion doesn't matter after you talk about how Chrono Trigger is overrated.

[karsten]

also the battle system in all of the secret of mana games was super gay, and I found that whole star ocean secret of mana etc line to be terribly boring

[Glitch]

also the battle system in all of the secret of mana games was super gay, and I found that whole star ocean secret of mana etc line to be terribly boring

Karsten, you are hereby banished from Potos Village.

[Xadion]

also the battle system in all of the secret of mana games was super gay, and I found that whole star ocean secret of mana etc line to be terribly boring

I admit.. I got Star Ocean Till the End of Time for PS2 and was uber excited- loaded it up told the game to STFU and move on I want some story! I got into a battle with 3 robots and died over and over and over...never has it touched my console again...

sooo star ocean dirives from the Secret of Mana/Evermore etc line? I could deal with the 2 SNES ones but not for very long I never made it to the end of those two.

[visage]

junction system in ff8 was way too complicated, you basically never got items, etc

game was just bad bro

I hate the junctioning system. Was like WTF is this shit Excuse me I got to go junction a few more times to max cap my heal , fkin annoyin.

[Bazia]

This message is hidden because visage is on your ignore list.

[Mardur]

also the battle system in all of the secret of mana games was super gay

your opinion doesn't matter after you talk about how the battle system of secret of mana sucks.