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God-King Abacab
09-26-2011, 02:19 AM
I bet you're asking "Why is Abacab mad this time?" well, it's simple I didn't give a fuck about P99 after my first year playing the server, and when red99 was announced I proceeded to donate hundreds of dollars to support it, hundreds of dollars that I no longer have that in good faith donated to the cause, and now I can't even so much as touch the server or use my fucking character name?

Seriously, you don't think that's morally fucked up to essentially pocket all my donations for a brand new server then subsequently bar me from even seeing the character select screen?

So not only are we completely cock blocked from specific names, as in I can't use Abacab unless I use my IP banned account (can't even play in general because of that) it just seems counter-productive.

If you're going to hold every single transgression from 2+ years ago and apply it to a brand new server then you'll have absolutely no population, no shit 80% of the people that are hyped for this server have been banned on p99 and or VZ/TZ at some point in it's history.




tl;dr

Nothing like being banned from a server before it even opens.


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Diggles
09-26-2011, 02:24 AM
well maybe you shouldn't have been an asshole then, huh!?

Roanoke
09-26-2011, 02:27 AM
Sucks. QQ more.

Donations are donations, you don't donate to the Red Cross and then expect to be put on top of the list for a blood transfusion.

JUST A GAME BROCEPTICON

Diggles
09-26-2011, 02:28 AM
if bin laden just donated to the red cross we would have taken him alive

God-King Abacab
09-26-2011, 02:32 AM
Sucks. QQ more.

Donations are donations, you don't donate to the Red Cross and then expect to be put on top of the list for a blood transfusion.

JUST A GAME BROCEPTICON

No, but they at least send me a thank you card and invite me to yearly events... I'm not donating asking for major GM favors that would be paramount to corruption, I'm not even asking for rule exceptions I'm simply saying I shouldn't be cock blocked completely for something I've supported for months.

However, I do see your reasoning and I'd fully subscribe to it if it wasn't completely polarized by it's extremity.

Goobles
09-26-2011, 02:44 AM
Whatchu looking for on Craigslist, cab?

God-King Abacab
09-26-2011, 02:50 AM
Whatchu looking for on Craigslist, cab?

Amps, bikes, pyramid scams and whores

Tumdumm
09-26-2011, 02:53 AM
"waaaaaaaaaaaahhhh"

God-King Abacab
09-26-2011, 02:57 AM
"waaaaaaaaaaaahhhh"

Clever, get back at me when you've donated and can actually weigh in on this without being a bitch. kthnx

Tumdumm
09-26-2011, 03:00 AM
how you know i never donated?

also, im not the one bitchin right now, im killin greens... sure its not exp but damn i could do this all night

God-King Abacab
09-26-2011, 03:03 AM
In a sense I'm being denied my fundamental rights, I haven't received straight forward nor truthful answers from the staff nor have I received any sort of acknowledgment nor access to the material in question... Where's my right brew?

Philanthropy is based on voluntary action for the common good. It is a tradition of giving and sharing that is primary to the quality of life. To ensure that philanthropy merits the respect and trust of the general public, and that donors and prospective donors can have full confidence in the nonprofit organizations and causes they are asked to support, we declare that all donors have these rights:

I. To be informed of the organization's mission, of the way the organization intends to use donated resources, and of its capacity to use donations effectively for their intended purposes.

II. To be informed of the identity of those serving on the organization's governing board, and to expect the board to exercise prudent judgment in its stewardship responsibilities.

III. To have access to the organization's most recent financial statements.

IV. To be assured their gifts will be used for the purposes for which they were given.

V. To receive appropriate acknowledgement and recognition.

VI. To be assured that information about their donation is handled with respect and with confidentiality to the extent provided by law.

VII. To expect that all relationships with individuals representing organizations of interest to the donor will be professional in nature.

VIII. To be informed whether those seeking donations are volunteers, employees of the organization or hired solicitors.

IX. To have the opportunity for their names to be deleted from mailing lists that an organization may intend to share.

X. To feel free to ask questions when making a donation and to receive prompt, truthful and forthright answers

Grahm
09-26-2011, 03:10 AM
dawg im sure if you just asked they'd be more than willing to unban your account.....well atleast for the Live server I would think.

skulldudes
09-26-2011, 03:29 AM
maybe if you make a thread in RnF about it they will look more favorably upon you,

you goofy asshole.

try communicating with them directly.

k2summit
09-26-2011, 03:39 AM
I have no sympathy for you brOba fett. You have started so many threads whining about your fucking ban. It gets old. Even with all the attention they got(which was actually alot), you never had a chance of being unbanned, and you know this. How about not being a fuckin dick and training shit all over EC for a week because you were QQ'in about whatever? As for your donations? LAWL.

Autotune
09-26-2011, 03:55 AM
Lol...


Seems like Abacab got trolled.

I bet they knew all along they weren't gonna let you play on R99 and just laughed it up when you were posting all those SS's of you donating.


I feel you pain and it's kinda fucked up, but you have to admit it's kinda funny (well it is if you're not the one getting fucked).

Rogean
09-26-2011, 04:30 AM
The decisions to link accounts and their disciplinary had nothing to do with Abacab. I'm sure if you had contacted me on IRC directly and said hey Rog, I noticed you linked the accounts and I'm banned and can't use the abacab name, is there anything you can do.. was looking forward to the server and was planning on not training the ever living shit out of anything that moves and even donated towards that end.. I would have been sure Cab, I'll rename your char on live so that it can be created again on PvP.

Tombom
09-26-2011, 04:35 AM
Our lord forgiveth

Autotune
09-26-2011, 04:45 AM
The decisions to link accounts and their disciplinary had nothing to do with Abacab. I'm sure if you had contacted me on IRC directly and said hey Rog, I noticed you linked the accounts and I'm banned and can't use the abacab name, is there anything you can do.. was looking forward to the server and was planning on not training the ever living shit out of anything that moves and even donated towards that end.. I would have been sure Cab, I'll rename your char on live so that it can be created again on PvP.

Ah well there ya go. I kinda liked my Abacab hate theory more tho.

ElanoraBryght
09-26-2011, 05:11 AM
[QUOTE=God-King Abacab;414243]...they at least send me a thank you card and invite me to yearly events.../QUOTE]

What kind of yearly events?

SUSUGAM
09-26-2011, 05:18 AM
biggest qq fest in forum history imo

JayDee
09-26-2011, 06:22 AM
this should be how it works irl

you kill somebody? donate 10 thousand dollars to charity bam dismissed

Stibe
09-26-2011, 06:27 AM
Dude, you made enough of an ass of yourself to get banned. Why would they let you on red 99 where you're likely to just do it all again? Tho im sure if you ask nicely they might work with you. If not, well, it's no ones fault but yours.

Aadill
09-26-2011, 08:26 AM
Cab I have to admit you really do go out of your way to complain... ask questions first then post, not the other way around~

Besides, I am just taking a guess here but I imagine linking the accounts has everything to do with being able to beta-copy characters from P99 moreso than worrying about your past transgressions.

Messianic
09-26-2011, 08:26 AM
Yeah, asking the admins BEFORE you assume the worst and post some retarded rant thread in R&F is probably a wiser move than what you did bro

Orruar
09-26-2011, 08:32 AM
No, but they at least send me a thank you card and invite me to yearly events... I'm not donating asking for major GM favors that would be paramount to corruption, I'm not even asking for rule exceptions I'm simply saying I shouldn't be cock blocked completely for something I've supported for months.

However, I do see your reasoning and I'd fully subscribe to it if it wasn't completely polarized by it's extremity.

Actually, it appears that the rule is that if you're banned on one P99 server, you're banned on the other. So in fact, you are asking for rule exceptions based upon what you have donated. It probably wouldn't be good policy for the admins to start granting favors for donations.

Rogean
09-26-2011, 09:00 AM
I don't think he was necessarily asking to be unbanned, he was just complaining that the name reservation system will prevent him from creating a character on red called Abacab because it is in use by a banned account on live. Hence easily fixed by renaming his banned character to something such as Abacabx.

Tommy_Wiseau
09-26-2011, 09:01 AM
big rogean will you change Fatcock****** to Fatcock******x? i really was looking forward to that name

Aadill
09-26-2011, 09:16 AM
I don't think he was necessarily asking to be unbanned, he was just complaining that the name reservation system will prevent him from creating a character on red called Abacab because it is in use by a banned account on live. Hence easily fixed by renaming his banned character to something such as Abacabx.

Please force him to use Abbacab or something. Let's get another Knuckle post goin.

xshayla701
09-26-2011, 10:28 AM
akyra abacab are you going to play?
Abacab-Red99 cab is banned from r99
akyra i'm sure you could get it unbanned for r99
Geegoo|1-0 akyra b
Geegoo|1-0 don't give the cab false hope

abacab you dumb b, listen to ya gurl more often

God-King Abacab
09-26-2011, 10:46 AM
The decisions to link accounts and their disciplinary had nothing to do with Abacab. I'm sure if you had contacted me on IRC directly and said hey Rog, I noticed you linked the accounts and I'm banned and can't use the abacab name, is there anything you can do.. was looking forward to the server and was planning on not training the ever living shit out of anything that moves and even donated towards that end.. I would have been sure Cab, I'll rename your char on live so that it can be created again on PvP.

There are two petitions in the petition section over this and they've been there for in excess of a month

Aadill
09-26-2011, 10:48 AM
There are two petitions in the petition section over this and they've been there for in excess of a month

have you bumped them? They get lost very fast in the never ending stream of petitions.

Not that you should bump them every day but if it goes unanswered for a few weeks then it probably got lost. They'll either tell you to stfu or they'll answer it for realsies.

God-King Abacab
09-26-2011, 10:53 AM
have you bumped them? They get lost very fast in the never ending stream of petitions.

Not that you should bump them every day but if it goes unanswered for a few weeks then it probably got lost. They'll either tell you to stfu or they'll answer it for realsies.

They've got like 10ish views, and I've IM'd Nilbog over IRC about it and raised the question prior to this point. You guys are assuming I just blew up out of the blue, but really I'm just seeing red.

Aadill
09-26-2011, 10:57 AM
I just blew up out of the blue, but really I'm just seeing red.

I have to admit that is by far the most :cool: thing ever.

Also I only made that assumption because that *IS* how you tended to represent yourself in the past. If none of it was true I apologize but in that same regard: to continuously be ignored for so many years why would you donate? I understand the philanthropy argument but you can't fall back on it if you were somewhat aware of the outcome.

JenJen
09-26-2011, 11:17 AM
what happens if someone makes a character there called abacab before you....abacab?

Aadill
09-26-2011, 11:20 AM
what happens if someone makes a character there called abacab before you....abacab?

they can't.. he owns the account and the account is banned. the account info is shared across servers (and Abacab is therefore banned on R99). The GMs would have to rename Abacab on P99 to Abacabx so he could remake it on R99. Someone would have to be really lucky to nab it in the mean time~

JenJen
09-26-2011, 11:30 AM
ahhh. i thought the individual character name was just reserved for that one particular server.

Kassel
09-26-2011, 12:31 PM
So basicly if a name is on p99 it can not be used on r99? sounds super lame

Aadill
09-26-2011, 12:38 PM
That is what I gathered, yes.

Will IP Exemptions carry over?
I am working on a system that will allow the two servers to share the same account database, so that IP Exemptions and anything else account related will carry over.

If you want a name on the beta server, you better go reserve it now on the blue server. Names in use on blue will only be creatable by the account owner

Kassel
09-26-2011, 12:46 PM
That is what I gathered, yes.


Thanks for the clarification Mr Pickel. I just want to use the names I have gone by for the last 10+ years, so that works out