View Full Version : Stand Up Guyz
CaughtRyhdinDirty
09-13-2011, 09:25 AM
Breaking news! TR, examples to be followed, welcome back openly those who were mistakenly called cheaters. When asking Perun about his public post admitting his hacking he responded with "It was my brother" The rest of us can cheer on this gentle hero for enduring such hardships as the Devs have inflicted upon him. Pre-grats on dinging 60 bro. More at 11
http://i.imgur.com/jvON7.jpg
also, who is playing perun, if he is on aleja?
http://i.imgur.com/zpsHt.jpg
Shannacore
09-13-2011, 09:39 AM
Why did you feel the need to make an anon account for this
Tasslehofp99
09-13-2011, 09:56 AM
the lol factor of this post is pretty high though
Daldaen
09-13-2011, 11:38 AM
Why did you feel the need to make an anon account for this
Why do you feel the need to continue coming to the boards of a game you do not play?
Shannacore
09-13-2011, 11:53 AM
Why do you feel the need to continue coming to the boards of a game you do not play?
Why are you so concerned with this?
I've explained this a bajillion times. I have an assload of free time at work. When I'm done with homework and they've ran out of things for me to file, I browse teh internets. This is one of the sites I frequently peruse at work. You will hardly ever find me posting outside of bsns hours.
Messianic
09-13-2011, 11:59 AM
Cheat
Get suspended for cheating
Admit you did it once because you thought the other guys were doing it
Come back
Blame it on your "brother"
2-box to get your levels back or help your friends
???
...Profit?
karsten
09-13-2011, 12:15 PM
I see ya baby, throw ya hands up high
If you wanna come and kick it with a stand up guy
Because the rocks go glisten and the drops on 20's
Bend it over let it drop if you wanna roll wit me
I say all my sexy ladies throw ya hands up high
If you wanna come and kick it with a stand up guy
Because it don't get better, *****s don't get cheddar
Like that fella in the yellow, purple label silk sweater
Swishahouse
09-13-2011, 12:21 PM
I see ya baby, throw ya hands up high
If you wanna come and kick it with a stand up guy
Because the rocks go glisten and the drops on 20's
Bend it over let it drop if you wanna roll wit me
I say all my sexy ladies throw ya hands up high
If you wanna come and kick it with a stand up guy
Because it don't get better, *****s don't get cheddar
Like that fella in the yellow, purple label silk sweater
Slathar
09-13-2011, 12:35 PM
get banned? np, we'll PL you in skyfire so you can cheat again.
Perun admitted he used it "once" and now it was his brother. it must suck having a crippling everquest addiction.
Ennoia
09-13-2011, 02:25 PM
Why did you feel the need to make an anon account for this
Possibly a TR member who is pissed at the bullshit but doesn't want to jeopardize himself.
Pretty pathetic to have to cheat at a 12 year old game, lie about it, then start cheating again. There's no way the staff is this blind, something's up.
bluejam
09-13-2011, 03:13 PM
He's obviously two boxing, Mr. anon troll.
Well it's obvious the rules on P99 aren't really being enforced anymore
This is why it was a critical mistake to not ban these 365 accounts. They will continue to plague and stain the image of this server as long as they are allowed to remain active.
Bazia
09-13-2011, 03:32 PM
Just came back from a cheating suspension and is already 2-boxing.
God damn dude, is it that hard to just play the fucking game right?
If you don't have the patience to level your toon then you probably don't like leveling and this is the wrong game for you.
Is there anyone who can get this shit under control?
Reading these forums is very discouraging for a newish player (me) seeing that at the top multiple people are just cheating their balls off and no one gives a shit.
Bazia
09-13-2011, 03:33 PM
I mean why did I leave Fippy for this if the same shit is going on here :confused:
Spoodowg2000bc
09-13-2011, 03:35 PM
Just came back from a cheating suspension and is already 2-boxing.
God damn dude, is it that hard to just play the fucking game right?
If you don't have the patience to level your toon then you probably don't like leveling and this is the wrong game for you.
Is there anyone who can get this shit under control?
Reading these forums is very discouraging for a newish player (me) seeing that at the top multiple people are just cheating their balls off and no one gives a shit.
Feel the same way.
Recycled Children
09-13-2011, 03:42 PM
Rename server: Transatlantic Rampage.
Trakanon isn't popping.
Rogean broadcasts: Server going down for 5 minutes.
Server back up.
TR takes Trakanon down for the umpteenth time.
Ennoia
09-13-2011, 03:55 PM
Is there anyone who can get this shit under control?
One man can...
http://breadmasterlee.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/banhammer.jpg
mitic
09-13-2011, 03:59 PM
lets introduce instanced sebillis, soldungb, permafrost, karnors and every plane so all of this whining will STOP!
Bazia
09-13-2011, 04:01 PM
lets introduce instanced sebillis, soldungb, permafrost, karnors and every plane so all of this whining will STOP!
How about instead people act like fucking adults and resist the urge to be a douchebag.
Too hard?
mitic
09-13-2011, 04:15 PM
eq is, was, and will always be competitive. if you can not deal with your helplessness to compete, try irreverent on serverselect and solo some gods on your own
Bazia
09-13-2011, 04:19 PM
eq is, was, and will always be competitive. if you can not deal with your helplessness to compete, try irreverent on serverselect and solo some gods on your own
Uh I don't see what htis has to do about competing, there is just an obvious douchey individual and no one care he constantly cheats.
I don't care what guild he is a part of or whatever, I barely know the guilds here. Although it seems weird that no one in his guild cares, shit like this is why the progression server blows.
JayDee
09-13-2011, 04:21 PM
擦拭乾淨
deneauth
09-13-2011, 04:28 PM
擦拭乾淨
WIPE CLEAN
eq is, was, and will always be competitive. if you can not deal with your helplessness to compete, try irreverent on serverselect and solo some gods on your own
TR is blatantly cheating now. Officers are using hacks and 2 boxing, ect. Development could care less and have basically stopped enforcing the rules as they've been written since the server's inception.
This issue is way beyond your "Eq is a competitive game" crap
mitic
09-13-2011, 04:32 PM
TR is definately ruining everyones immersion by camping dragons 24 7 and killing bosses within 10 mins via batphone
lets instance those zones, NOW!
Bazia
09-13-2011, 04:41 PM
TR is definately ruining everyones immersion by camping dragons 24 7 and killing bosses within 10 mins via batphone
lets instance those zones, NOW!
WTF are you talking about I don't care about that fucking guild or raiding.
I think its retarded that this INDIVIDUAL is cheating his ass off, there is proof and no one gives a shit.
If you're not going to discuss the topic then go post in one of the billion "Raiding flame threads"
mitic
09-13-2011, 04:44 PM
WTF are you talking about I don't care about that fucking guild or raiding.
I think its retarded that this INDIVIDUAL is cheating his ass off, there is proof and no one gives a shit.
If you're not going to discuss the topic then go post in one of the billion "Raiding flame threads"
just read all the other posts in this thread an you will understand (or not)
Bazia
09-13-2011, 04:50 PM
just read all the other posts in this thread an you will understand (or not)
Ok so I'm going to assume he's in your guild, doesn't anyone care that he obviously cheats?
Maybe that's why people are flaming your guild.
Lack of shits given about the obvious cheater.
mitic
09-13-2011, 04:52 PM
i dont care if a caught cheater gets flamed. i do care if a whole guild gets involved, especialy the guild i played with
Bazia
09-13-2011, 04:54 PM
i dont care if a caught cheater gets flamed. i do care if a whole guild gets involved, especialy the guild i played with
May I rephrase it:
People are talking shit because no answers why your guild allows him to cheat and stay around.
I've asked it three times, you still have ignored it.
Does TR have no shame? What the fuck.
Bazia
09-13-2011, 05:02 PM
Probably guild policy, no acknowledging the obvious cheaters on the forums.
I think I can see why people talk shit about your guild. :(
mitic
09-13-2011, 05:12 PM
May I rephrase it:
People are talking shit because no answers why your guild allows him to cheat and stay around.
I've asked it three times, you still have ignored it.
TR will never make their internal affairs public. even uthgaard failed with his infiltration into transatlatics forums.
gnOme
09-13-2011, 05:13 PM
I don't understand what the staff is supposed to do. He was temp banned and de-leveled just like everyone else that was caught cheating recently. (the reason for leniency has already been addressed by the staff so I won't do it here)
As far as the accusations of his 2box'n I just don't see the "proof" your screaming of. Someone said he was on another char, while his char was logged in? So what? I'm gonna throw a situation into the mix that will explain a possible scenario that occurred....
Perun was caught cheating and de-leveled to 54, he decided a AE group was the best way to get this xp back. He has access to a friends character that will help but is the only one with access to it, he has another friend to log on his account while he plays the other character to help himself lvl.....
There are many variations of this situation that could be valid in this situation. The fact is the only way to know for sure if someone is 2 box'n is to have a GM/guide in game check to find out.....
Accuse the staff of whatever you like, but to pretend there is some kind of proof of 2 box'n in the OPs pic is a stretch.....questionable yes. Proof no..... It makes it sooo much harder on the staff when you guys blow stuff out of proportion or see some sort of "proof" that just isn't there....
If you see something questionable in game and feel something wrong is being done, Petition it. Regardless of what you might think the fact is that Rogean and Nilbog bust there ass to make sure things run as fairly as they can for EVERYONE who plays. The GM staff currently active are some of the most fair and attentive one's the server has ever had.....take advantage of that. Don't come on here with half truths and perceptions of what might have happened....Read into it if you must, but don't turn it into a witch hunt screaming of proof that doesn't exist.
Bazia
09-13-2011, 05:18 PM
I don't understand what the staff is supposed to do. He was temp banned and de-leveled just like everyone else that was caught cheating recently. (the reason for leniency has already been addressed by the staff so I won't do it here)
As far as the accusations of his 2box'n I just don't see the "proof" your screaming of. Someone said he was on another char, while his char was logged in? So what? I'm gonna throw a situation into the mix that will explain a possible scenario that occurred....
Perun was caught cheating and de-leveled to 54, he decided a AE group was the best way to get this xp back. He has access to a friends character that will help but is the only one with access to it, he has another friend to log on his account while he plays the other character to help himself lvl.....
There are many variations of this situation that could be valid in this situation. The fact is the only way to know for sure if someone is 2 box'n is to have a GM/guide in game check to find out.....
Accuse the staff of whatever you like, but to pretend there is some kind of proof of 2 box'n in the OPs pic is a stretch.....questionable yes. Proof no..... It makes it sooo much harder on the staff when you guys blow stuff out of proportion or see some sort of "proof" that just isn't there....
If you see something questionable in game and feel something wrong is being done, Petition it. Regardless of what you might think the fact is that Rogean and Nilbog bust there ass to make sure things run as fairly as they can for EVERYONE who plays. The GM staff currently active are some of the most fair and attentive one's the server has ever had.....take advantage of that. Don't come on here with half truths and perceptions of what might have happened....Read into it if you must, but don't turn it into a witch hunt screaming of proof that doesn't exist.
Valid points, I guess it could've been manipulated. I just think there is still a bad taste in peoples mouth about the banning situation (like me).
Guess I just need to get over it, and enjoy classic EQ. It was just the lack of cheating was about 95% of the appeal of this server to me, cosidering this game is basically destroyed everywhere else by rampant cheating.
jarshale
09-13-2011, 05:22 PM
Thread did not deliver
gnOme
09-13-2011, 05:37 PM
I assure you the staff has the same bad taste in their mouths. The fact is we have new procedures for catching cheaters and it's not something we take lightly. Things have been done and will continue to be done to try to ensure that we don't have this level of cheating on the server anymore.
I don't expect everyone to think things changed overnight or that we have it all figured out.
You don't have to agree with the decisions that were made or why they were made. But don't pretend like the staff is doing nothing or doesn't care. The fact is that a handful of people are trying to recreate and manage something an entire company (SoE) had issue's managing. On the whole I think the staff of p99 does a impressive job of maintaining this server and making it a fun place to relive old memories. Have a little faith, if you see something you don't agree with petition. If you feel like the staff could have handled a situation a better way, then explain your feelings in a rational manner. Don't flame or try to belittle the staff tho cause all that does is cause us to lose track of whatever valid points you may have...we are trying, we are not perfect. Neither are you.
Daldaen
09-13-2011, 05:44 PM
Why are you so concerned with this?
I've explained this a bajillion times. I have an assload of free time at work. When I'm done with homework and they've ran out of things for me to file, I browse teh internets. This is one of the sites I frequently peruse at work. You will hardly ever find me posting outside of bsns hours.
Was ment to be ironic. Why are you concerned with why the OP needed to make a new account for this post.
Ennoia
09-13-2011, 05:44 PM
IF the staff 'cares' they have a really odd way of showing it.
gnOme
09-13-2011, 05:55 PM
We police the server more then SoE EVER did on live, if anything we care too much. The fact is because the staff cares so much, players have become accustomed to having a GM to settle every petty argument.
On live players were held accountable by other PLAYERS, the community policed itself and GM's were little to no help.
If anything I would argue that the staff cares too much and the players don't care enough.....take that how you will.
(I'd also like to point out that I do not speak for the entire staff, but I damn sure have an opinion. I'm sure Nilbog will ask me later not to make these kind of post again as it just encourages you guys to troll me more)
Mardur
09-13-2011, 05:56 PM
I'll sum up TR in a timeline of random and true events:
-IB/TR policy: Anyone proven using third party cheating programs will be guild-removed.
-Burple applies, talks about using MQ in vent on every fucking raid until I tell him to knock it off. I vote no, he passes application and is still a member afaik.
- I'm banned for accusatory MQ use (which didn't happen).
- Promised position in TR as a leader of Pantheon during the guild merge.
- Denied at the last moment due to my past ban.
- Various members and officers of TR are caught cheating in the recent sting.
- They are welcomed back with open arms and subsequently PLed to 60.
I don't understand what the staff is supposed to do. He was temp banned and de-leveled just like everyone else that was caught cheating recently. (the reason for leniency has already been addressed by the staff so I won't do it here)
The staff was supposed to ban the accounts for hacking/using 3rd party programs. You're also forgetting the fact he was using these cheats as TR's raid leader and a integral part of their officer crew.
As far as the accusations of his 2box'n I just don't see the "proof" your screaming of. Someone said he was on another char, while his char was logged in? So what? I'm gonna throw a situation into the mix that will explain a possible scenario that occurred....
You're characterization of people's opinion on his 2 boxing is hyperbole.
Perun was caught cheating and de-leveled to 54, he decided a AE group was the best way to get this xp back. He has access to a friends character that will help but is the only one with access to it, he has another friend to log on his account while he plays the other character to help himself lvl.....
Which makes his punishment meaningless in the long term.
There are many variations of this situation that could be valid in this situation. The fact is the only way to know for sure if someone is 2 box'n is to have a GM/guide in game check to find out.....
I've stated previously that he'd be getting plvled by IB/TR as soon as his suspension was up and that's exactly what is happening. You're telling me a GM couldn't drop by and keep tabs on a known cheater after he had just been dlvled and has access to so many different high level characters? Incompetence.
Accuse the staff of whatever you like, but to pretend there is some kind of proof of 2 box'n in the OPs pic is a stretch.....questionable yes. Proof no..... It makes it sooo much harder on the staff when you guys blow stuff out of proportion or see some sort of "proof" that just isn't there....
Why wasn't a GM keeping tabs on him and checking IP logs. That SS is a huge red flag.
If you see something questionable in game and feel something wrong is being done, Petition it. Regardless of what you might think the fact is that Rogean and Nilbog bust there ass to make sure things run as fairly as they can for EVERYONE who plays. The GM staff currently active are some of the most fair and attentive one's the server has ever had.....take advantage of that. Don't come on here with half truths and perceptions of what might have happened....Read into it if you must, but don't turn it into a witch hunt screaming of proof that doesn't exist.
Nilbog and Rogean have zero credibility after the way they handled these suspensions IMO. They totally sold out the population that has always followed the rules and respected their server, to cater to the needs of an elite few who hold the rest of the server in disdain.
mitic
09-13-2011, 05:57 PM
get over it mardur, red is around the corner
Bazia
09-13-2011, 06:03 PM
The staff was supposed to ban the accounts for hacking/using 3rd party programs. You're also forgetting the fact he was using these cheats as TR's raid leader and a integral part of their officer crew.
You're characterization of people's opinion on his 2 boxing is hyperbole.
Which makes his punishment meaningless in the long term.
I've stated previously that he'd be getting plvled by IB/TR as soon as his suspension was up and that's exactly what is happening. You're telling me a GM couldn't drop by and keep tabs on a known cheater after he had just been dlvled and has access to so many different high level characters? Incompetence.
Why wasn't a GM keeping tabs on him and checking IP logs. That SS is a huge red flag.
Nilbog and Rogean have zero credibility after the way they handled these suspensions IMO. They totally sold out the population that has always followed the rules and respected their server, to cater to the needs of an elite few who hold the rest of the server in disdain.
I think this opinion is a little extreme, I believe they did what they thought was best. Even if I don't agree with it, I think they are doing what they believe to be the best for the server.
I think if players held each other accountable and shunned cheateres, we wouldn't have the issues we have. (That's what I meant by people not giving a shit in my earlier posts)
deneauth
09-13-2011, 06:07 PM
How would such a small population police itself? I can't even begin to think of how this server would end up if the community policed itself. Just playing devil's advocate right now.
Mardur
09-13-2011, 06:07 PM
get over it mardur, red is around the corner
Word, also can you stop being so whiny cause there was a time that I enjoyed leveling with you.
Envious
09-13-2011, 06:09 PM
The "BEST" would be to give it about 2-4 weeks, let all those people lvl back up to 60, then perma ban the accounts and all associated accounts.
gnOme
09-13-2011, 06:10 PM
Contrary to popular believe, the staff does not control what TR does, so don't talk to me about the fact he's still in TR.
As far as GMs watching him....are they supposed to be watching all the other 300+ accounts that came back too?
We need more staff......
Or we just need you to petition when you see something like this...
gnOme
09-13-2011, 06:12 PM
*belief
gnOme
09-13-2011, 06:13 PM
How would such a small population police itself? I can't even begin to think of how this server would end up if the community policed itself. Just playing devil's advocate right now.
Our avrg server population actually exceeds that of normal live servers during the same timeline.
deneauth
09-13-2011, 06:13 PM
Once again, just devil's advocate, but with the small staff many petitions go unanswered as well. It's nobody's fault, there are just not enough people to answer the petitions sometimes.
Bazia
09-13-2011, 06:14 PM
How would such a small population police itself? I can't even begin to think of how this server would end up if the community policed itself. Just playing devil's advocate right now.
Pretty easily, you know a member of your guild is a cheater.
Don't let him back in your guild.
Other people will see that and will be less likely to cheat out of fear of being booted.
People behave better and GM's can work on shit that matters.
But again that on the players.
deneauth
09-13-2011, 06:19 PM
Our avrg server population actually exceeds that of normal live servers during the same timeline.
I can't refute that comment. I can't remember how busy servers were prime time, I think Veeshan had over 1,000 during primetime but i could be wrong obviously.
Pretty easily, you know a member of your guild is a cheater.
Don't let him back in your guild.
Other people will see that and will be less likely to cheat out of fear of being booted.
People behave better and GM's can work on shit that matters.
But again that on the players.
Agreed, while most of the players on this server are pretty amazing, I have noticed that many players in the top two guilds generally don't care about the general population of the server. They are above us. Sorry to offend anyone :/
Fists
09-13-2011, 06:28 PM
Mitic, A. you suck, and will be laughed out of Red in 25 minutes. I corpse camped you until you logged in EC the other day, bet I don't see you flagging red at the tunnel anymore. Secondly, all these comments about "ohhh you just mad TR gets mobs.." How long has it been since TR got trak?
Shannacore
09-13-2011, 06:37 PM
Was ment to be ironic. Why are you concerned with why the OP needed to make a new account for this post.
If he felt the need to anon himself, the dramaz would probably have been better if it were posted on his normal account.
YendorLootmonkey
09-13-2011, 06:40 PM
eq is, was, and will always be competitive. if you can not deal with your helplessness to compete, merge with IB like my guild did.
Bubbles
09-13-2011, 07:05 PM
As much as i'd hate to contribute to a thread this worthless and bigoted...
The real screenshot you actually needed was Perun feigned in that exact same spot 8 hours later, as the only person in skyfire, which he was when i ran my cleric to OT from BW (thru skyfire) to res some poor druid in the wee hours last night.
And that, too, offers 0 proof of 2boxing, only the fact that a level 55 monk wasn't actively contributing to a AE skyfire group. Which..... would be completely expected anyways.
TBH i'd be far more worried about TR if they completely turned their back on their friend, in order to appease both solo forum trolls and guilds with the loudest forum trolls.
JenJen
09-13-2011, 07:08 PM
yendor done a good burn there 10/10
Xzerion has taken over the gnOme name. They faked his death so he could assume a new identity like the FBI.
Ennoia
09-13-2011, 07:29 PM
Word, also can you stop being so whiny cause there was a time that I enjoyed leveling with you.
I think Mitic is just incredibly bored and wants some Pee Vee Pee.
Contrary to popular believe, the staff does not control what TR does, so don't talk to me about the fact he's still in TR.
As far as GMs watching him....are they supposed to be watching all the other 300+ accounts that came back too?
We need more staff......
Or we just need you to petition when you see something like this...
Sup Trystych
Our avrg server population actually exceeds that of normal live servers during the same timeline.
I like your other posts. All valid points. This one tho, I will argue!
Veeshan had on average 1600 people during kunark, and it only dropped down to around 1000 when the server split.
cadiz
09-13-2011, 08:44 PM
paylasimınız güzel.
Can a mod please ban this account? It's spamming all the forums, it's especially annoying in Technical Discussion where people are trying to seek assistance.
I like your other posts. All valid points. This one tho, I will argue!
Veeshan had on average 1600 people during kunark, and it only dropped down to around 1000 when the server split.
got some shit on your nose pal
Feachie
09-13-2011, 10:34 PM
only the fact that a level 55 monk wasn't actively contributing to a AE skyfire group.
it's not boxing unless you're actively playing them both at the same time amirite?
Contrary to popular believe, the staff does not control what TR does, so don't talk to me about the fact he's still in TR.
As far as GMs watching him....are they supposed to be watching all the other 300+ accounts that came back too?
We need more staff......
Or we just need you to petition when you see something like this...
i find it amusing/shocking/sad that you're blindly defending perun, or maybe you're not blindly defending, maybe you're just smarter than xzerion and didn't make your dev name the same as your ingame TR character name.
the group composition in the screenshot is exactly as described in the /tell text (2 monks, acarer, etc). nobody has to ban him without proving he was boxing, to appease trolls, but an accusation against a known cheater with screens provided should be looked into. it's easy enough to tell who was on aleja, so if anything the screenshot should warrant one of the GM's to look into the matter further.
and petition if you see something like this? didn't you just get done saying the population policed itself on live? isn't that what the OP was attempting to do? but here you are flaming him for trying to bring the only evidence THAT HE CAN BRING to the public. he has no access to IP logs, all he can do is take screenshots, and you know this... so if you can't help the situation by checking logs why are you even posting? escalate the complaint like a good staff and shut the fuck up with your obvious attempts at deflection.
i'd also like to say that i'm glad i checked the forums before i got weak and logged into my character. this thread is ridiculous, and i'm not sure why a lot of people are still wasting their time on this server. obvious corruption is obvious.
p.s. ban me, busters :rolleyes:
SwordNboard
09-13-2011, 10:42 PM
it's not boxing unless you're actively playing them both at the same time amirite?
i find it amusing/shocking/sad that you're blindly defending perun, or maybe you're not blindly defending, maybe you're just smarter than xzerion and didn't make your dev name the same as your ingame TR character name.
the group composition in the screenshot is exactly as described in the /tell text (2 monks, acarer, etc). nobody has to ban him without proving he was boxing, to appease trolls, but an accusation against a known cheater with screens provided should be looked into. it's easy enough to tell who was on aleja, so if anything the screenshot should warrant one of the GM's to look into the matter further.
and petition if you see something like this? didn't you just get done saying the population policed itself on live? isn't that what the OP was attempting to do? but here you are flaming him for trying to bring the only evidence THAT HE CAN BRING to the public. he has no access to IP logs, all he can do is take screenshots, and you know this... so if you can't help the situation by checking logs why are you even posting? escalate the complaint like a good staff and shut the fuck up with your obvious attempts at deflection.
i'd also like to say that i'm glad i checked the forums before i got weak and logged into my character. this thread is ridiculous, and i'm not sure why a lot of people are still wasting their time on this server. obvious corruption is obvious.
p.s. ban me, busters :rolleyes:
/bye
Have fun on Fippy when you get 'weak' again.
Feachie
09-13-2011, 10:44 PM
did you realize there's an "outside?" it's fucking beautiful, just fyi.
Thatguy05
09-13-2011, 10:44 PM
it's not boxing unless you're actively playing them both at the same time amirite?
i find it amusing/shocking/sad that you're blindly defending perun, or maybe you're not blindly defending, maybe you're just smarter than xzerion and didn't make your dev name the same as your ingame TR character name.
the group composition in the screenshot is exactly as described in the /tell text (2 monks, acarer, etc). nobody has to ban him without proving he was boxing, to appease trolls, but an accusation against a known cheater with screens provided should be looked into. it's easy enough to tell who was on aleja, so if anything the screenshot should warrant one of the GM's to look into the matter further.
and petition if you see something like this? didn't you just get done saying the population policed itself on live? isn't that what the OP was attempting to do? but here you are flaming him for trying to bring the only evidence THAT HE CAN BRING to the public. he has no access to IP logs, all he can do is take screenshots, and you know this... so if you can't help the situation by checking logs why are you even posting? escalate the complaint like a good staff and shut the fuck up with your obvious attempts at deflection.
i'd also like to say that i'm glad i checked the forums before i got weak and logged into my character. this thread is ridiculous, and i'm not sure why a lot of people are still wasting their time on this server. obvious corruption is obvious.
p.s. ban me, busters :rolleyes:
Just delivered.
Swishahouse
09-13-2011, 10:51 PM
did you realize there's an "outside?" it's fucking beautiful, just fyi.
no u
deneauth
09-13-2011, 10:53 PM
no u
Crank dat Soulja boi
CaughtRyhdinDirty
09-13-2011, 10:55 PM
Guys stay on topic please. This thread has nothing to do with the staff or dev team. This thread only has to do with TR. There are rules against hacking, Perun has admitted to hacking. TR says they don't condone hacking and vow to remove hackers from their guild. They then allow those hackers to reapply and on a case by case basis they may rejoin the guild. By allowing them back in they essentially never removed them. As such their actions indicate they condone hacking despite their words saying the opposite. As an officer rather then a member i would expect breaking such a severe rule would be a more shameful thing then some random player/app and would call for a harsher punishment not a leaner one. Also if you believe that one case Perun admitted to was the only case then you are naive. The frustration he felt on that occasion i am sure was present at plenty of raids before that. If he gave into weakness once i am sure it happened more.
Swishahouse
09-13-2011, 10:58 PM
Crank dat Soulja boi
DOG!! You bounced with my precious DS potions! =P
gnOme
09-13-2011, 11:32 PM
I actually wasn't defending Perun, I was defending the staff against people claiming the staff doesn't care.
I also have nothing to do with the policing of the server other then to post here how I feel. I work in development, I have no access to logs or anything else. To be honest I probably have the least access out of any member and really me personally, I could careless about the day to day fighting that goes on.
But if people are taking the OP's picture and making blanket assumptions of the staff's role or feelings towards cheating and/or 2 boxing I have a right to voice my opinion. Feel free to twist whatever I say however you like but the majority of the server understands the point I was trying to get across. I'll leave the rest of this thread to you guys 8)
Feachie
09-13-2011, 11:37 PM
I actually wasn't defending Perun, I was defending the staff against people claiming the staff doesn't care.
I also have nothing to do with the policing of the server other then to post here how I feel. I work in development, I have no access to logs or anything else. To be honest I probably have the least access out of any member and really me personally, I could careless about the day to day fighting that goes on.
But if people are taking the OP's picture and making blanket assumptions of the staff's role or feelings towards cheating and/or 2 boxing I have a right to voice my opinion. Feel free to twist whatever I say however you like but the majority of the server understands the point I was trying to get across. I'll leave the rest of this thread to you guys 8)
what a joke, most of these points were covered in my post.
nobody twisted anything. you're here on one hand saying that people need to petition when they see this, and then on the other hand you're saying that there just isn't enough staff "why, back in my day, we used to police ourselves" and then turning around and bitching at him for not providing enough evidence.
Diggles
09-13-2011, 11:41 PM
feachie get the fuck out of here you quit already
twice
Feachie
09-13-2011, 11:42 PM
you obv mad somebody spying on your guildie. fgt. :eek:
Glitch
09-13-2011, 11:48 PM
feachie get the fuck out of here you quit already
twice
You can't talk to the wielder of Masamune like that
Fourthmeal
09-13-2011, 11:54 PM
/face
Diggles
09-14-2011, 12:07 AM
you obv mad somebody spying on your guildie. fgt. :eek:
/facepalm
If you think I'm in TR you're dumber than you seem.
gnOme
09-14-2011, 01:15 AM
Actually none of my comments were made towards the OPs post. His post has little meaning to me as I don't deal with in game issue's and he wasn't making comments about staff members...
They were in reply to others such as yourself who have twisted his post into an attack on the staff.
As far as you twisting what I'm saying....I stated that if people expected us to follow Perun and all the other 300+ people that were banned until they mess up again....were gonna need more staff not that we don't have the staff to handle it when petitioned appropriately....
I'm not getting upset and I have no issue with you using this thread as a means to try to roast another player from any guild, I do however have a issue that you guys keep trying to insist it's something the staff cares nothing about.
you obv mad somebody spying on your guildie. fgt. :eek:
thought u were dead.
Or was that just wishful thinking?
Francois
09-14-2011, 01:19 AM
This evidence is conclusive. Well done.
This is your reward.
http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/alwaysunny-jeanshorts.gif
Diggles
09-14-2011, 01:35 AM
This evidence is conclusive. Well done.
This is your reward.
http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/alwaysunny-jeanshorts.gif
cropped to hide MQ
Feachie
09-14-2011, 02:05 AM
Actually none of my comments were made towards the OPs post. His post has little meaning to me as I don't deal with in game issue's and he wasn't making comments about staff members...
They were in reply to others such as yourself who have twisted his post into an attack on the staff.
As far as you twisting what I'm saying....I stated that if people expected us to follow Perun and all the other 300+ people that were banned until they mess up again....were gonna need more staff not that we don't have the staff to handle it when petitioned appropriately....
I'm not getting upset and I have no issue with you using this thread as a means to try to roast another player from any guild, I do however have a issue that you guys keep trying to insist it's something the staff cares nothing about.
you're the only member of the staff being "attacked", and that's only because i also think your responses thus far have been nothing more than deflection. misusing the term "cheater" where "boxer" is the appropriate term, for example. yes, you have new spybot .dll's to catch cheaters, but boxers?
i apologize for twisting your words, but all 300+ accounts do not need to be suspect. only ones that need to be should be. if somebody /petitioned for this, wouldn't ss's be requested anyway? so what's the difference if they're posted in rnf or not? what happened to the community policing itself? or at least attempting to participate in it.
of course you can't investigate the accusation yourself, i realize that. that's why i don't understand why you're even talking shit to the rest of the thead. you're the only staff member that has posted in it so far, have you put a bug in a GM's ear so he can check it out? (or is that not your responsibility?) hell i'll log in and /petition it for the op if that's what it takes, but you're here so thankfully i don't have to.
i miss uthgaard, he investigated nekkro because he was a dickhead on the forums after he got suspended.
thought u were dead.
Or was that just wishful thinking?
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3812/dragonwarrior01.jpg
Hagglebaron
09-14-2011, 02:08 AM
Feach, you're back?
Feachie
09-14-2011, 02:13 AM
nah, just talking shit. :D
i'm playing wh40k space marine, pretty tough at higher difficulty. then again i don't normally play shooters on consoles very much.
tokkie
09-14-2011, 02:15 AM
They still answer petitions? lololololol what server are you playing on. One sec I gotta go to the supermarket and pick up a cake because my petition is going to be one year old tomorrow. Ya are all invited to its birthday party!!!!! =D
visage
09-14-2011, 02:42 AM
TR and TMO LIVE ACTION PORNO.... Just start sucking eachother off already. I'm sick of the cock teasing that is going on. You both are faggots with tons of flaming fans.
Seaweedpimp
09-14-2011, 02:45 AM
Sry guyz ill put feachie back in her cage now.
gnOme
09-14-2011, 03:07 AM
There's no way the staff is this blind, something's up.
Reading these forums is very discouraging for a newish player (me) seeing that at the top multiple people are just cheating their balls off and no one gives a shit.
These are two of the post that got me talking here, you are the only reason I'm still here...I like talking to you.
gnOme
09-14-2011, 03:15 AM
I don't have any issue with what people have said regarding there opinions of the screenshot or how they feel the staff should handle the situation. I could careless if you hang all the raiding guilds laundry out to dry and tear them apart. But when people are making accusations that the staff just doesn't care, or newer players are being led to believe that we don't. I will say something. I knew my comments would fall on deaf ears to the regulars to this forum who have nothing better to do then to pick a fight.
And honestly I don't feel that attacked either. I think more then anything you just like to argue, no matter what I say you will have a witty retort. It is the way of the internet. I only lose when I let ya get under my skin.
Ennoia
09-14-2011, 03:21 AM
These are two of the post that got me talking here, you are the only reason I'm still here...I like talking to you.
Well, at least it's more interaction than SOE ever had with their community. Still like talking to a brick wall, but at least you put the effort in to actually let people know you do read the forums.
Aenor
09-14-2011, 05:15 AM
How would such a small population police itself?
Well, the lead guild on the server appears to be receiving preferential treatment from the staff. Maybe this is just appearances, or maybe you're playing on a non-legit sandbox. I tend to give the staff the benefit of the doubt because if TR really is the admin sandbox guild, why wouldn't they just fail to disclose the hacking by members of that guild?
But it reminds me of my time on "A Certain EMU PvP Server." During my time on "A Certain EMU PvP Server," I noticed a trend of "A Certain Guild" always receiving preferential treatment from the server staff. In my direct PvP confrontations with "A Certain Guild," they hacked and exploited worse than anybody else on the server. But they were never punished for it, other than a one-time slap on the wrist.
Why? Probably because it was their sandbox. The slap on the wrist was likely self imposed and only for the sake of appearances. The guild I ran with was composed of people like myself with careers and family. I often had to take breaks from leading Hate raids to change diapers and make bottles. My guild had to make a decision. Do we continue to play in a sandbox where the dominant guild has insurmountable advantages? Or do we quit?
We decided that we enjoyed playing in a PvP environment, even on a non-legit server, enough so that we kept playing. We took down some raid targets when "A Certain Guild" didn't batphone and get to them first or arrive on the scene and train us with utter impunity. Mostly we enjoyed playing together, and "A Certain Server" was the only viable PvP environment with enough entertainment value to keep us together.
So how do you police your own server? Well, after TR showed its true hypocritical nature, going from derision toward hackers in other guilds to welcoming their own hackers back with open arms, you need to find a way to out poopsock and out batphone them. You need to hail Emperor Salty and say "I want to slay dragons."
Because you can cry GM favoritism all you want, but as long as TR is more active, organized and faster to target than all the rest of you put together, guess who is going to be keyed for VP? Cry more.
Estrang
09-14-2011, 05:25 AM
Join red99 a happy hack free environment with legit players and a true everquest experience that will resonate in your brain til you keel over and die at a ripe old age
Tamiah2011
09-14-2011, 05:31 AM
I don't understand what the staff is supposed to do. He was temp banned and de-leveled just like everyone else that was caught cheating recently. (the reason for leniency has already been addressed by the staff so I won't do it here)
As far as the accusations of his 2box'n I just don't see the "proof" your screaming of. Someone said he was on another char, while his char was logged in? So what? I'm gonna throw a situation into the mix that will explain a possible scenario that occurred....
Perun was caught cheating and de-leveled to 54, he decided a AE group was the best way to get this xp back. He has access to a friends character that will help but is the only one with access to it, he has another friend to log on his account while he plays the other character to help himself lvl.....
There are many variations of this situation that could be valid in this situation. The fact is the only way to know for sure if someone is 2 box'n is to have a GM/guide in game check to find out.....
Accuse the staff of whatever you like, but to pretend there is some kind of proof of 2 box'n in the OPs pic is a stretch.....questionable yes. Proof no..... It makes it sooo much harder on the staff when you guys blow stuff out of proportion or see some sort of "proof" that just isn't there....
If you see something questionable in game and feel something wrong is being done, Petition it. Regardless of what you might think the fact is that Rogean and Nilbog bust there ass to make sure things run as fairly as they can for EVERYONE who plays. The GM staff currently active are some of the most fair and attentive one's the server has ever had.....take advantage of that. Don't come on here with half truths and perceptions of what might have happened....Read into it if you must, but don't turn it into a witch hunt screaming of proof that doesn't exist.
Really they bust there asses to make sure everything is fair for EVERYONE? What about us player that were perma banned for 2 boxing? did we get a 2 week vacation~hell no we didnt.Your talking out your butt..
Tamiah2011
09-14-2011, 05:33 AM
I don't have any issue with what people have said regarding there opinions of the screenshot or how they feel the staff should handle the situation. I could careless if you hang all the raiding guilds laundry out to dry and tear them apart. But when people are making accusations that the staff just doesn't care, or newer players are being led to believe that we don't. I will say something. I knew my comments would fall on deaf ears to the regulars to this forum who have nothing better to do then to pick a fight.
And honestly I don't feel that attacked either. I think more then anything you just like to argue, no matter what I say you will have a witty retort. It is the way of the internet. I only lose when I let ya get under my skin.
THE STAFF DONT CARE~~THIS IS FACT. I still have a petition in forum that has not been answer in months and staff is fair?
karsten
09-14-2011, 05:35 AM
big knuckle brings some unexpected even keel wisdom to an otherwise faggoty thread
Autotune
09-14-2011, 07:04 AM
lol how did I miss this retarded thread.
If you didn't know that TR would kick perun (for absolutely no fucking reason at all) and then make him reapp (for absolutely no fucking reason at all) just so he could be automatically reinvited (for absolutely no fucking reason at all), you are just fucking stupid.
Fucking stupid like TR kicking Perun in the first place. You guys cheat, that's cool, your friend cheats, that's cool too. Why would you kick him, when you already know he's getting the tag back? That just boggles the shit out of me.
I'd of much rather seen you guys keep him guilded and give everyone the finger. Not half assed act like "omg he had to reapp and we had to see if he would make it thru the process again!" that's a joke.
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Wait, TR let Perun back in?
Their just giving up all their credability just like that?
Bubbles
09-14-2011, 07:49 AM
it's not boxing unless you're actively playing them both at the same time amirite?
lol it's not boxing at all if it's 2 separate IPs and one isn't actively doing squat, which is what would be the best educated guess of what was going on.
If you want to play detective further, the fact that he was still in the same spot hours later means he was probably just leeching xp while sleeping, which isn't a crime. If the group is cool with it, there's no victim.
Even the worst 'two-boxer' in the world boxing someone that much in the current public eye wouldn't leave them chilling solo in skyfire for an entire night. They'd clean up a 'wrongdoing' a littler better than that. Just use some common sense. ;)
Bubbles
09-14-2011, 07:51 AM
Wait, TR let Perun back in?
Their just giving up all their credability just like that?
a. ) he's not guilded anywhere atm.
b. ) Letting an admitted cheater back into your ranks if you like the guy and enjoy his company is far less of a crime than letting your retarded vocal minority run wild in RnF. 'Credibility' is a two-way street.
a. ) he's not guilded anywhere atm.
b. ) Letting an admitted cheater back into your ranks if you like the guy and enjoy his company is far less of a crime than letting your retarded vocal minority run wild in RnF. 'Credibility' is a two-way street.
Are you in TR?
mitic
09-14-2011, 09:29 AM
Are you in TR?
nice try, but you just failed
nice try, but you just failed
Are YOU in tr?
Hagglebaron
09-14-2011, 09:37 AM
Was Mitic busted for cheating or something? He's been pretty toolish as of late
mitic
09-14-2011, 09:51 AM
Was Mitic busted for cheating or something? He's been pretty toolish as of late
no, i only left the server due to the rampant cheating in the blue community and waiting now for red. as we all know, pvpers are all very skillfull players not in the need of 3rd party programs!
:D
Asher
09-14-2011, 12:32 PM
Are we trying to make all of the devs quit?
Please gn0me, just ignore these people and continue your good work. :)
Ignore RnF.
Asher
Tumdumm
09-14-2011, 01:15 PM
if its the same gn0me i think it is, gn0me is cool people and im just stopping by to blindly defend the aforementioned gn0me without reading any of the related posts
Resitance
09-14-2011, 01:37 PM
If you believe anything that is trolled in the rants and flames, then your just baited and wasting your time instead of playing.
Raavak
09-14-2011, 01:42 PM
Is there anyone who can get this shit under control?
Uthgaard. Oh well...
I heard I was two boxing so I had to come check out the thread.
Awesome work Rants and Flames, but you get a 0 for detective work. I had Papadacus sign into Perun during the Patriots game while I was playing Aleja.
Get new material, it's been two weeks. Send more creative hate tells this shit is old.
Convict
09-14-2011, 01:52 PM
trading undetectable compiled MQ2 for ton po's bo stick of understanding.
pls pm
I heard I was two boxing so I had to come check out the thread.
Awesome work Rants and Flames, but you get a 0 for detective work. I had Papadacus sign into Perun during the Patriots game while I was playing Aleja.
Get new material, it's been two weeks. Send more creative hate tells this shit is old.
You need to change your sig bro
The level is wrong
You need to change your sig bro
The level is wrong
Fixed.
Szeth
09-14-2011, 02:05 PM
I wanna come... =)
Asher
09-14-2011, 02:09 PM
Fixed.
a. ) he's not guilded anywhere atm.
This statement true? Perhaps another modification is in order.
Asher
Diggles
09-14-2011, 02:11 PM
guys leave perun alone he's been through enough
Glitch
09-14-2011, 02:20 PM
sup trax~
CaughtRyhdinDirty
09-14-2011, 02:47 PM
I heard I was two boxing
What i heard was you lost levels for cheating then made two legit players sit out of this group so you and a buddy could afk plvl your worthless ass. With the full support of your hypocrite guild mates who could give two fucks about what the actions of asswipes like you do to the server.
bluejam
09-14-2011, 03:33 PM
Step 1) Delete your characters.
Step 2) Delete your forum account.
Step 3) Tell the world via Facebook, Twitter, w/e about the P99 mafia.
Step 4) Go outside.
Step 5) Breath the fresh air and enjoy the sun. (optional)
Step 6) Hurl yourself in front of a bus.
Nazran
09-14-2011, 03:52 PM
Why are you so concerned with this?
I've explained this a bajillion times. I have an assload of free time at work. When I'm done with homework and they've ran out of things for me to file, I browse teh internets. This is one of the sites I frequently peruse at work. You will hardly ever find me posting outside of bsns hours.
If I had that much free time I would be masterbating... a lot! I mean.. like A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
Shannacore
09-14-2011, 04:07 PM
If I had that much free time I would be masterbating... a lot! I mean.. like A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
brb putting on my vibrating panties
Futor
09-14-2011, 04:32 PM
brb putting on my vibrating panties
pics or it did not happen
Seaweedpimp
09-14-2011, 04:53 PM
brb putting on my vibrating panties
Price check?
Autotune
09-14-2011, 05:47 PM
brb putting on my vibrating panties
Those are nothing compared to MANual stimulation.
Just sayin ;)
Shannacore
09-14-2011, 05:54 PM
Those are nothing compared to MANual stimulation.
Just sayin ;)
I'm at work, you sicko!!!
Messianic
09-14-2011, 06:40 PM
as we all know, pvpers are all very skillfull players not in the need of 3rd party programs!
:D
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Dirt McGirt
09-14-2011, 06:58 PM
Guineadick
REPORTED HAVE RESPECT FOR MODS THIS ISNT UR HOUSE IT IS THERES!!!!!!!!!!
YendorLootmonkey
09-14-2011, 07:03 PM
If I had that much free time I would be masterbating... a lot! I mean.. like A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
Careful dude... been there, done that. Now only little wisps of dust come out. :(
Tamiah2011
09-14-2011, 08:04 PM
Im very sure 100 percent OP is TMO member causing problems again with guild better then them...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loly Taa
I dropped out of highscool cause I straight up was sick of going. I'm sure I'm not the only one here who made the same choice
Autotune
09-14-2011, 08:07 PM
I'm at work, you sicko!!!
Psh, nothing wrong with a little co-worker action. Might make your, or his/her day :)
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