Hasbinbad betrays RnF

[JenJen]

Hasbinbad, rants and flames very own golden child and chief poster and bumper of flame threads regarding GM decisions, has now turned his back on the rnf forum in order to put a stop to the current "ban TR's cheaters" threads.
Hasbinbad has the sheer nerve to preach to the community as a whole to stop ranting and flaming, and to put an end to the constant bumping of flame threads regading GM decisions.

More news of this hypocrite at 11.

[Swishahouse]

Thesaurus.com must be down obv~

[Csihar]

There's 2 dudes making out in your avatar.

[Dirt McGirt]

Hasbinbad, rants and flames very own golden child

lol no

[Spud]

First rants n flames gets shutdown for a night, next it looses it's tags, now Hasbinbad turns his back on it? Poor RnF is having rough week.

[Hasbinbad]

Oh I am not turning my backs on you sweetlings, I'm trying to get RnF back on track and away from this mob mentality which is putting the server in possible jeopardy. Continue on flaming TR etc., just quit it with the attacks on staff, calls to destroy all the work that has been done, and attacks on staff decisions. It is silly and you guys need to take a step back and count to ten.

[JenJen]

move along nothing to see here

[Appollo]

[J]ust quit it with the attacks on staff, calls to destroy all the work that has been done, and attacks on staff decisions. It is silly and you guys need to take a step back and count to ten.

Well said.

[Pico]

hasbinbad probably the least funny, most useless poster on the forums quote this if u agree

[purist]

hasbinbad probably the least funny, most useless poster on the forums quote this if u agree

[Yinaltin]

no

[Swishahouse]

no

[Ennoia]

Oh I am not turning my backs on you sweetlings, I'm trying to get RnF back on track and away from this mob mentality which is putting the server in possible jeopardy. Continue on flaming TR etc., just quit it with the attacks on staff, calls to destroy all the work that has been done, and attacks on staff decisions. It is silly and you guys need to take a step back and count to ten.

No, you're trying to misdirect people's attention from a guild full of cheaters.

Ban Xzerion. Ban Perun. LONG LIVE UTHGAARD!!!

[G13]

Well said.

Your hypocrisy is disappointing

After all you were the one who spoke with Nilbog and Rogean during DA's raid suspension. You, more than anyone, understand the reasons why DA was a given raid suspension. A member in a position of leadership (Officer/raid leader/ect) was caught using a 3rd party hack during a competitive raid. Perun was caught and has admitted to using a 3rd party hack during a competitive raid. This is beyond refute.

These are the rules. All the emotional arguments and TR/IB trolling/hand wringing are irrelevant and have nothing to do with the server rules.

Why TR/IB hasn't at the very least been raid suspended yet for 2 weeks is a slap in the face to the community by development. Rogean you need to do the right thing and hand down the proper punishment to TR/IB please.

Clearly TR/IB has met the exact same criteria previously met by DA that warrants a raid suspension, yet we have Appollo are agreeing with Hasbinbad? /boggle

[Dirt McGirt]

hasbinbad probably the least funny, most useless poster on the forums quote this if u agree

[Skope]

This is RnF, Hasbin. You're not new here. You've got to be crazy to expect everyone to be reasonable and produce coherent thoughts and ideas. This is RnF. Hell, even in general chat you've got to sift through the bullshit to find something worth reading.

Discrediting legitimate concerns because there's a bunch of idiots around here? What the hell happened to the real hasbinbad?

[Autotune]

What the hell happened to the real hasbinbad?

[Enygma]

Oh I am not turning my backs on you sweetlings, I'm trying to get RnF back on track and away from this mob mentality which is putting the server in possible jeopardy. Continue on flaming TR etc., just quit it with the attacks on staff, calls to destroy all the work that has been done, and attacks on staff decisions. It is silly and you guys need to take a step back and count to ten.

Because it involves how shitty your guild is and how it has been shown favoritism since day 1. Gluck TR in doing anything by themselves without GM support.

/vote to have universal punishments across the board. /qq Hasalwaysbinabad.

GG.

Sworen

[Enygma]

No, you're trying to misdirect people's attention from a guild full of cheaters.

Ban Xzerion. Ban Perun. LONG LIVE UTHGAARD!!!

Much agree.

Sworen

[Daldolma]

I don't really understand the discussion of double standards. Koota's ban and the resulting raid ban was an isolated incident. This ban occurred in the midst of 365 account suspensions, all of which were granted leniency. If fairness is the goal, then the least fair outcome would be to grant some leniency while holding others to past precedent. Either everyone is banned and TR is raid suspended, or everyone is suspended and TR is left alone. Either scenario is fair -- but you can't pick and choose.

At least that's my opinion.

[G13]

I don't really understand the discussion of double standards. Koota's ban and the resulting raid ban was an isolated incident. This ban occurred in the midst of 365 account suspensions, all of which were granted leniency. If fairness is the goal, then the least fair outcome would be to grant some leniency while holding others to past precedent. Either everyone is banned and TR is raid suspended, or everyone is suspended and TR is left alone. Either scenario is fair -- but you can't pick and choose.

At least that's my opinion.

What other raiding guild had an officer suspended for using a 3rd party hack?

Secondly the idea of there being "fairness" in regards to cheaters is a ridiculous premise. The fair thing to do would be to ban all accounts permanently. Those are the rules. Hack/cheat = ban.

The irony here is this is indeed an isolated incident in regards to guild leadership being caught hacking. TR/IB was the only guild that has their raid leader/officer suspended for using a 3rd party hack. He even admitted to using it during a competitive raid.

The rules are the rules and past precedent has already been set. As Nilbog stated previously, officers/raid leaders and leadership of guilds in general are held to a higher standard by development than the regular players, which is why Nilbog and Rogean's lack of action concerning this matter is perplexing.

Guild leaders certainly can't police every member, but they better be able to police themselves. Either Xzerion knew about this and allowed to happen, or he's too stupid to realize his hand picked officers are cheating.

[Enygmad]

Whole lotta QQ'ing.

Sworen

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[Enygmad]

The usual played out Bronson rhetoric.

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[Pico]

aren't you the one who just made the giant whiny thread?

[Enygmad]

aren't you the one who just made the giant whiny thread?

Yes.

Thanks,

Sworen

[Dark Knight]

There's 2 dudes making out in your avatar.

[Knuckle]

tags: updog

[Appollo]

Your hypocrisy is disappointing

After all you were the one who spoke with Nilbog and Rogean during DA's raid suspension. You, more than anyone, understand the reasons why DA was a given raid suspension. A member in a position of leadership (Officer/raid leader/ect) was caught using a 3rd party hack during a competitive raid. Perun was caught and has admitted to using a 3rd party hack during a competitive raid. This is beyond refute.

These are the rules. All the emotional arguments and TR/IB trolling/hand wringing are irrelevant and have nothing to do with the server rules.

Why TR/IB hasn't at the very least been raid suspended yet for 2 weeks is a slap in the face to the community by development. Rogean you need to do the right thing and hand down the proper punishment to TR/IB please.

Clearly TR/IB has met the exact same criteria previously met by DA that warrants a raid suspension, yet we have Appollo are agreeing with Hasbinbad? /boggle

I respectfully disagree with your assessment of my "hypocrisy". Let me set something straight that was apparently misinterpreted: I agree with you wholeheartedly that the punishment was not befitting for what happened and is not congruent with precedent set by the server staff. Something more should have been done, i.e. 1 week raid suspension for the entire guild.

However, do not mistake my agreement with Hasbinbad as anything more than an agreement with his assessment of the forums.

Nevertheless, I do not view Rants and Flames as the proper forum to bring that disagreement. I would prefer to speak with Rogean and Nilbog personally on the matter and voice my concern through that avenue. Not the least of which because it will yield results, whereas posting in here will inevitably fall on deaf ears. I long ago gave up on attempting to accomplish anything of value in a forum entitled "Rants and Flames", I figure the title of the forum should lend some credence as to what to expect.

[Enygma]

lawl... he made a forum troll in my honor. My work here is done :)

I provided enough hard evidence that he raged irl and said "i know I'll troll him".

GG. THX.

I retire as winner of RnF.

Bai,

Sworen

[G13]

I respectfully disagree with your assessment of my "hypocrisy". Let me set something straight that was apparently misinterpreted: I agree with you wholeheartedly that the punishment was not befitting for what happened and is not congruent with precedent set by the server staff. Something more should have been done, i.e. 1 week raid suspension for the entire guild.

However, do not mistake my agreement with Hasbinbad as anything more than an agreement with his assessment of the forums.

Nevertheless, I do not view Rants and Flames as the proper forum to bring that disagreement. I would prefer to speak with Rogean and Nilbog personally on the matter and voice my concern through that avenue. Not the least of which because it will yield results, whereas posting in here will inevitably fall on deaf ears. I long ago gave up on attempting to accomplish anything of value in a forum entitled "Rants and Flames", I figure the title of the forum should lend some credence as to what to expect.

Then we are in agreement and I was wrong for calling you a hypocrite. I apologize.

[visage]

Eh hes full of fail. I remember he use to be a hell of a troll. Now he is just a whiney cry baby that will report you in a heart beat. Frikken low class baby. Quite frankly it's just sad to see someone go from being a class act to being a class hybrid penis vagina.

[Eternal-Elf]

hasbinbad probably the least funny, most useless poster on the forums quote this if u agree

[Flavor]

Oh I am not turning my backs on you sweetlings, I'm trying to get RnF back on track and away from this mob mentality which is putting the server in possible jeopardy. Continue on flaming TR etc., just quit it with the attacks on staff, calls to destroy all the work that has been done, and attacks on staff decisions. It is silly and you guys need to take a step back and count to ten.

Hasbinbad, or you other young pseudo-intellectuals (wtb tag), go read the book Exit, Voice, and Loyalty by Albert Hirschman. It's short but it'll give you some perspective as to why anyone whose touched the raid scene outside of TR is so hell bent on blowing shit up.

Also I would tell you to just wikipedia it, except the article's analysis sucks balls. Just go read it, it's only 100 pages.

[Chippy]

hasbinbad probably the least funny, most useless poster on the forums quote this if u agree

[Anger]

Your hypocrisy is disappointing

After all you were the one who spoke with Nilbog and Rogean during DA's raid suspension. You, more than anyone, understand the reasons why DA was a given raid suspension. A member in a position of leadership (Officer/raid leader/ect) was caught using a 3rd party hack during a competitive raid.

You're an idiot. When Appollo talked to Nilbog, it was when Tubban was using MQ in a completely unrelated zone, for a reason completely non-related to raiding (suspension #2). And Koota wasn't using SEQ during a "competitive raid". He was using it during off-hours to track Draco (suspension #1).

Learn your facts before you come spouting off nonsense bullshit.

[Swishahouse]

#shockthemonkey