More proof that server is going to hell

[Jameshpulse]

http://pastebin.com/ZeEmdGYH


read it fast

[Slathar]

WIPE IT CLEAN LONG LIVE MAGRISTRATE UTHGAARD

[Chanur]

Yeah based on reading this I would say Uth is pissed he didn't get his way and there is no proof of anything except he was testing and providing valuable feedback according to the developer. Oh shit string him up. Rabble rabble rabble!

[Slathar]

Yeah based on reading this I would say Uth is pissed he didn't get his way and there is no proof of anything except he was testing and providing valuable feedback according to the developer. Oh shit string him up. Rabble rabble rabble!

this is a TR propagandist btw (he was banned for hacking)

[purist]

WIPE IT CLEAN LONG LIVE MAGRISTRATE UTHGAARD

[Ring]

28.09[23:11] <Uthgaard> i'm just really not interested in having this argument, because i know where it's going to lead. you will not be satisfied with any evidence i give you, and even when i do give you his ass on a silver platter, you continue to justify it. why argue it? it's pointless

Laughing at this. I GIVE YOU EVIDENCE AND YOU DEBUNK IT WITH "FACTS", NILBOG. WHY DO I EVEN BOTHER? HE'S GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uthgaard, you leaking private information (on investigations, personal conversations, bannings) makes you look like a jackass. I know you think you're playing some chess match with Rogean and Nilbog in the court of public opinion, but no, anyone intelligent can see you're a conniving shithead angry he doesn't get his way and is lashing out.

[Moonface]

#ban Xzerion, save this server.

[Hasbinbad]

[23:08] <nilbog> i don't think you should be taking measures like that against staff for no reason. the guide book thing you were convinced he made is an exact copy and paste from my veeshans peak thread

--

lol

[Tyen01]

uthgaard mad jelly of xzerion

[purist]

above poster is Getsome, TR propagandist

[purist]

by that I meant Ring

[Tyen01]

<nilbog> of all the things you should know i care a fucking lot about, is the database.

Holy fuck, then release the source for fucks sake

[purist]

the TR batphone for this thread go out yet? gotta do that damage control

[Slathar]

28.09[23:11] <Uthgaard> i'm just really not interested in having this argument, because i know where it's going to lead. you will not be satisfied with any evidence i give you, and even when i do give you his ass on a silver platter, you continue to justify it. why argue it? it's pointless

Laughing at this. I GIVE YOU EVIDENCE AND YOU DEBUNK IT WITH "FACTS", NILBOG. WHY DO I EVEN BOTHER? HE'S GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uthgaard, you leaking private information (on investigations, personal conversations, bannings) makes you look like a jackass. I know you think you're playing some chess match with Rogean and Nilbog in the court of public opinion, but no, anyone intelligent can see you're a conniving shithead angry he doesn't get his way and is lashing out.

This person is a TR member who was suspended for hacking.

[Slathar]

Notice how the only people insulting the evidence of a corrupt developer are from the guild he leads?

I find this interesting.

[Hasbinbad]

^fat

[Deuces]

That makes me wanna log in and play.

[Ring]

77.09[23:40] <Uthgaard> you don't listen to me when it matters. you bend to pressure from guilds and forum idiots. you canned me with less evidence. i've given this server more than anyone else has, and it's been over a year, and still get treated like i'm some sort of an outsider. rogean tries to make every twat that pays him attention a gm, and is so far out of touch he didn't even realize that tmo was da until i told him. you're out of touch as well, i'm one of your biggest resources, but you never contact me. go ahead and make your generalizations that i'm rude and disrespectful. the half the staff that isn't trying to use the server for its own benefit will give you a different story.

86.09[23:50] <Uthgaard> this server went to shit the month i backed off. you lost a lot of players until i came back and started handling issues

92.09[23:51] <Uthgaard> you know what? i had this discussion with rogean when he made the same accusation
93.09[23:51] <Uthgaard> he walked away from that argument humbled

144.09[00:12] <Uthgaard> what i'm trying to tell you is that i understand group psychology very well. i know what i'm doing and i do what i do with a reason

Uth has issues. I can't believe he'd release that chatlog. It didn't help him.

[Slathar]

77.09[23:40] <Uthgaard> you don't listen to me when it matters. you bend to pressure from guilds and forum idiots. you canned me with less evidence. i've given this server more than anyone else has, and it's been over a year, and still get treated like i'm some sort of an outsider. rogean tries to make every twat that pays him attention a gm, and is so far out of touch he didn't even realize that tmo was da until i told him. you're out of touch as well, i'm one of your biggest resources, but you never contact me. go ahead and make your generalizations that i'm rude and disrespectful. the half the staff that isn't trying to use the server for its own benefit will give you a different story.

86.09[23:50] <Uthgaard> this server went to shit the month i backed off. you lost a lot of players until i came back and started handling issues

92.09[23:51] <Uthgaard> you know what? i had this discussion with rogean when he made the same accusation
93.09[23:51] <Uthgaard> he walked away from that argument humbled

144.09[00:12] <Uthgaard> what i'm trying to tell you is that i understand group psychology very well. i know what i'm doing and i do what i do with a reason

Uth has issues. I can't believe he'd release that chatlog. It didn't help him.

Holy shit, do you work as a campaign manager for the fucking Tea Party? Way to take things completely out of context. But hey, you're a member of TR and want to cling to your best-guild fantasy so more power to you.

[purist]

Ring = Getsome ingame, TR member and confirmed douche bag to the community

[Deuces]

lol what would we do w/o you purist?

[Dravingar]

I heard that Daltheb guy was banned, read it here on RnF so I know for a fact its true.

[Slathar]

I heard that Daltheb guy was banned, read it here on RnF so I know for a fact its true.

are you insinuating that the log is fabricated?

another member of TR (dravingar) on damage control (his guild cheats)

[Dravingar]

I'm not insinuating anything, just find it hilarious how much misinformation gets thrown around as fact.

[Bardalicious]

If this fucks over Red 99 release I'M GONNA GO APESHIT UP IN THIS MOTHER

[Autotune]

Deny deny deny.

[Bardalicious]

P.S. GO GO GADGET WIPE-IT COMMITTEE

[john_savage1982]

Yet another reason I don't play this game anymore. When is everybody going to learn that it's a few players in with the devs that get whatever they want. Then the fanbois go on about how it's not true when it's so incredibly obvious. Why would anybody want to play a game in such a sad state of affairs. Yall all are ominously obsessed with everquest.

[purist]

#ban Xzerion, save this server.

[visage]

Wow..... I see valid points on both sides. However, to say Uthgaard has issues is funny. Uthgaard is Uthgaard. He isn't fake and won't be fake clearly. The politics of the matter Uthgaard can't seem to adjust too. Because he is infact Uthgaard. Obviously you wouldn't want to step on peoples toes above you especially when the majority of the higher up disagree with his point of view. This is why I like Uthgaard he just doesn't give a shit. The fact of the matter is this issue wasn't going to go anywhere. All it did was start drama. However, it comes to show how much everyone cares for the server. If Uthgaard is willing to go over batt just for this server. He really does care about the project. Infact I think he cares about it so much he is willing to sacrafice his own job and any dignity he had with players and staff. For that I admire Uthgaards persistance. Case in point this crap needs to be let go. It's not going anywhere and all it's doing is causing more turmoil all around the server. It's not just Xzerion's rep that got damaged here now. The entire staff is hurt in regards to rep. That isn't a good thing. It's going to take a lot of time and focus to bring the public's perception and trust back into the staff of P99. If anything IMO the rants and flames and the forums need to be patrolled. Personally these forums have done more harm than good. Not just for players , but for staff too. So having Uthgaard around when you have forums and players voicing out garbage was a good thing. Get rid of the forums or patrol it more I think drama will lesson. If people need a rants and flames or a place to talk crap they can do it on their own forums. Just my opinon and 2 cents. Damn shame this crap is going on still , a damn shame...

[Mezzmur]

<nilbog> he has given us more 'this shit is too easy' reports than anyone else. from the beginning. you are jumping to wild conclusions about a coworker, ill say that again. expansion DEVELOPER. so much for that cohesive unit
206.09[00:48] <Uthgaard> his 'this shit is too easy' is biased around giving them the advantage
207.09[00:49] <Uthgaard> has he given you a 'this shit is too easy' about the spot they're using to heal on trak from? puts the healers at zero risk
208.09[00:49] <Uthgaard> the threads in their forum confirm their motives. they tell you about it once tmo adopts it and start beating them at it. their forums confirm that whole ivandyr hoop thing being to fuck tmo over
209.[00:50] <nilbog> if you do not understand how doing this in the manner that you did is detrimental to developer/staff relations, then you are blind as fuck.


I lol'd.

[Diggles]

221.09[00:53] <Uthgaard> he's not one of my co workers
222.09[00:53] <Uthgaard> he doesn't develop anything
223.[00:53] <nilbog> neither do you
What the fuck?

[Aenor]

Uth has issues. I can't believe he'd release that chatlog. It didn't help him.

My highest char on P99 blue is lvl 11 so I have no position on the high end politics of the server. But from an outsider's perspective I agree with this. Uthgaard is not winning the public relations battle here. His central argument is that everything he does is for the health of the server but compromising internal staff deliberations is an attack on the integrity of the server, and thus the opposite.

[Flavor]

136.09[00:09] <Uthgaard> when we disagree it's infuriating because you take what i've said apart, take nothing from the points i try to raise, and it accomplishes nothing

Pretty much sums up 90% of whats in there. Not excusing Uth even though he's inflammatory, but line after line of browbeating is far less irritating than watching you flail around trying to make your point, but getting stuck on shit that's petty and irrelevant when you consider whats at stake here. You're having a crisis of legitimacy. Just getting this out there for your benefit if you ever read this.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is the part where I spell it all out and you faggots reply with
tl;dr
Here we go.

185.[00:41] <nilbog> don't presume to think i do not understand psychology. there aren't any nilbog hate threads, i play the role i want to play on p99.

Nilbog proves Uth's point here by more or less admitting to undermining (intentionally or unintentionally, doesn't matter) the "OMGthoughguy Strategy" with CSR decisions by failing to recognize the role he needed to take in the scheme. The question is how well did Mr. Uthgaard communicate what he was doing to Nilbog and Rogean, if at all? If he did and everybody was cool with it, Nilbog certainly didn't realize that allowing this to be successful meant he'd need to cede a large portion control over CSR decisions to Uthgaard. (90% to be exact, the percentage Uth outlined in that linked post near the top, the appeals process being the 10% Nilbog and Rogean were to arbitrate)

If the case is that Uth did not let on to the rest of the staff what it was he was doing, there's a solid argument to be made that he was out of line based on the necessary gives and takes required to make it all work. You could say that, by putting on that " IM THE FUCKIN' LAW UP IN HURR' " mask, Uth was imposing a regulatory system upon the entire server, staff included. Authority is ripe to be undermined if that initial communication didn't take place. Now we could get into a philosophical discussion as to whose idea of "Law and Order" is better, but let's not. It's all pretty clear at this point that Nilbog and Rogean are content to let the top end of the server fall into chaos and illegitimacy based on the trajectory of things. The problem with the current set of rules is that it's dated, irrelevant, and easily used to retroactively justify lawless behavior especially when the appeals process is willing accept to complaints that come to the door with sufficient rabblerousing.

Part of the reason arbitration in the civilized world actually works is that NOT EVERY APPEAL IS HEARD AND CONSIDERED BEYOND ITS INITIAL STAGES; IN FACT, MOST ARE NOT. If you're going to take it upon yourselves to decide something, Nilbog and Rogean, don't fucking use how loud the noise is as a criterion in whether to get involved, but rather what issue is being raised. Yeah, its not easy, but that's your incentive to just leave shit alone and expect people to live with your inaction knowing that it's not that you don't care about it, it's that arbitrating that dispute does nothing to promote the well-being of the server; its just toxic and is best left alone.

The reason the server began going to shit is because that ideal 10% of appeals was VASTLY inflated to become, percentage wise, the primary avenue of figuring out disputes over dagrons. Raiding has become a fucking Casey-Anthony-style-court-drama* with lower standards of evidence in the current dynamic. You can understand how allowing this situation to exist is beyond unhealthy for the server's community, its absolutely toxic.
*RNF trolls play the part of Nancy Grace in all of this. You're welcome.

Big Boss guys, I can arrive at no other conclusion other than that you are both at fault and that your ineptitude created a NEED for Uthgaard to step in, regardless of whether he was right or wrong to step on toes. He chose to act in the best interest of the server, which ironically, you are opting to ignore based on the fact that he is either right or you are surprisingly corrupt. You can replace a developer, you cannot replace credibility once it's lost. In all scenarios you two are on the wrong side of the issue and the server will suffocate and die (eventually) as a result of your collective hubris. I'd venture to say the reason why it hasn't already is that the interest in what you're doing is high enough that players are entering and leaving P99 at about the same rates. This would be astonishing to me given the timeline of this brewing shitstorm encompasses the entire life of the server.

<----If you made it this far into the post having read it thoroughly, you get a gold star and my gratitude.

[Nyrod]

holy fuck! i read that whole thing omg...

i agree alot with visage and aenor.

reading it gave me alot of respect for both uthgaard and nilbog. the reality is they need like marriage counseling or something lol shit reminds me of conversations with my wife, we both want the same thing but are like ready to murder each other because we disagree.

i havent been here long either but from the little i have heard about uthgaard it was like 90% bad about how much of a dickhead he is and then reading what he says around this part

161.09[00:19] <Uthgaard> i dont like the idea of banning someone who's innocent

i can totally agree with how he did his CSR and mad props for sticking to it. those that deserve it get the wrath of god, those that dont, mercy of god.

[Vidrata]

18.18.09[23:03] <Uthgaard> no. this has been the same argument since zianlo

Ill be honest, this makes me happy that I played some part in his leaving and my forum account ban wasnt in vain. Its annoying to use my g/f's account to post. =P

[Smedy]

Didn't read the entire thing but my only care is that this doesn't fuck with p99 red release.

[Flavor]

My highest char on P99 blue is lvl 11 so I have no position on the high end politics of the server. But from an outsider's perspective I agree with this. Uthgaard is not winning the public relations battle here. His central argument is that everything he does is for the health of the server but compromising internal staff deliberations is an attack on the integrity of the server, and thus the opposite.

Promoting lawlessness through neglect is contrary to the health of the server. Go read up on why VZTZ kept collapsing, the laws (in that case the laws of fair PvP) were being ignored via GM favoratism and 3rd party programs. Exact same core issue is in play here.

[superapan]

The whole VP-Xzerion deal is some real messed up stuff, the worst I've seen so far. I wholeheartedly support Uthgaard.

[Aenor]

Didn't read the entire thing but my only care is that this doesn't fuck with p99 red release.

R99 cancelled like the NBA season Big Smed =(

[Cyrano]

You guys who say the server is going to shit are ridiculous. The ONLY thing that matters on this server is that development continues. Everything else is ancillary, if Nilbog came out tomorrow and said, "Hey we're no long releasing new content ever. But you can continue to play in the current state," that would be the server going to shit. Dev's having to waste time putting up with the petty bullshit between forum trolls and this pseudo server perception takes away from development.

So far as I can tell the server is plenty healthy, we have plenty of more content to be released, and the CSR team is more than capable with or without Uthgaard. We're all here because we love playing EQ, the drama is derived from a minority on the server and one GM amplifying those complaints has allowed it to go to an entire new level.

[Aenor]

Promoting lawlessness through neglect is contrary to the health of the server. Go read up on why VZTZ kept collapsing, the laws (in that case the laws of fair PvP) were being ignored via GM favoratism and 3rd party programs. Exact same core issue is in play here.

This is all true, but it doesn't change my point, which is that if Uthgaard's only concern was the health of the server, why did he just permanently and irrevocably compromise its integrity? He could have continued to work from the inside to combat the abuses he perceived.

There's an operative term for what's happening here.

Rage quitting.

Somebody mad?

[purist]

Cyrano = TR member and well known douche to the community

[Flavor]

http://www.papercut.gr/forum/images/smilies/icon_mtg_tap.png four plains for...

http://static.starcitygames.com/sales/cardscans/MAG4TH/angry_mob.jpg

[Nedala]

the biggest problem this server has is the forum. Shut down RnF, heavily mod server chat and we are golden :)

[Tyen01]

the biggest problem this server has is the forum. Shut down RnF, heavily mod server chat and we are golden :)

you are retarded

[Diggles]

the biggest problem this server has is the forum. Shut down RnF, heavily mod server chat and we are golden :)
fucking idiot

[Autotune]

the biggest problem this server has is the lack of censorship. Shut down RnF, heavily mod server chat and we are golden on censorship :)


aye, let us all play where we can't speak out on anything.

Great idea.

[Diggles]

we don't do things like you wankers in the old world of shitbags and incest.

there's an opt out button, use it

[purist]

the biggest problem this server has is the forum. Shut down RnF, heavily mod server chat and we are golden :)

Nedala, confirmed TR member and mouth breathing mongoloid to the community

[Autotune]

Nedala, confirmed idiot.

fixt.

[Diggles]

Nedala, confirmed to have lower IQ than Harrison

[Nedala]

lol look at you faggots, tmo propaganda squad keep up the good work, you mad brews? bet every single xzerion tag is from tmo, lmao.

The forum is what makes the server look bad, when you come on these boards all you see is a bunch of TMO members spewing their bullshit, and a few forum whores. I dont even know how many people you guys drove away already, if anything kills this servers its you, jelly guys ;)

[Tyen01]

Nedala confirmed homo basher

[Tyen01]

The forum is what makes the server look bad

You are messed up in the head.

[purist]

Nedala were you mentally deficient before joining TR or were you programmed to having a single-digit IQ

[Autotune]

lol look at you faggots, tmo propaganda squad keep up the good work, you mad brews? bet every single xzerion tag is from tmo, lmao.

The forum is what makes the server look bad, when you come on these boards all you see is a bunch of TMO members spewing their bullshit, and a few forum whores. I dont even know how many people you guys drove away already, if anything kills this servers its you, jelly guys ;)

out of all the people that called you an idiot/retard/stupidfuck/cunt.

only one of them was in TMO

me.

You need more Deflector shields me thinks.

[Smedy]

the biggest problem this server has is the forum. Shut down RnF, heavily mod server chat and we are golden :)

Nedala confirmed hacker and scumbag to the community.

[Dravingar]

You are messed up in the head.

Tyen approved.

[JayDee]

Nedala confirmed hacker and scumbag to the community.

[Planet]

I agree Uthgaard sound pissed because he dosnt get his way and want to control the lives of players and guides, instead of doing what he should be doing running the game.I think Uthgaard should be demoted to player status and flagged red so we can kick his ass all over EQ land.Uthgaard has been nothing but a prick from day 1...

[visage]

I agree Uthgaard sound pissed because he dosnt get his way and want to control the lives of players and guides, instead of doing what he should be doing running the game.I think Uthgaard should be demoted to player status and flagged red so we can kick his ass all over EQ land.Uthgaard has been nothing but a prick from day 1...

You are a decaying skeleton. Don't make me 1 shot you with my wang.

[Tyen01]

Nedala confirmed hacker and scumbag to the community.

why u no on aim

[Moonface]

the biggest problem this server has is the forum. Shut down RnF, heavily mod server chat and we are golden :)

why don't you and your little TR fag buddies go play on your own emulated server? you guys have the DB already so go fuck off already.


You guys who say the server is going to shit are ridiculous. The ONLY thing that matters on this server is that development continues. Everything else is ancillary, if Nilbog came out tomorrow and said, "Hey we're no long releasing new content ever. But you can continue to play in the current state," that would be the server going to shit. Dev's having to waste time putting up with the petty bullshit between forum trolls and this pseudo server perception takes away from development.

So far as I can tell the server is plenty healthy, we have plenty of more content to be released, and the CSR team is more than capable with or without Uthgaard. We're all here because we love playing EQ, the drama is derived from a minority on the server and one GM amplifying those complaints has allowed it to go to an entire new level.

you really must be the biggest fucking retard ever. your guild leader is the reason this server is fucking going down the drain.


with that said, we all know Xzerion is using inside info to keep TR alive. TMO can suck my fucking cock too, 20% of the people here hating on Xzerion are from TMO, the rest are general population who FINALLY get to see what the fuck you guys have been up to.

Fuck TR, if you guys want this server to keep going #ban Xzerion, #ban Cryano just cause he is so fucking retarded, and #ban Nedala the worst player on the server.

[Nyrod]

rofl love the pic of salty in traks lair gd too perfect LOLOLOLOL

[Moonface]

saying this all as a former member of IB, the shit they pull is fucking disgusting.

[Flavor]

saying this all as a former member of IB, the shit they pull is fucking disgusting.

The Real Truth comes out... errr wait.

[Goraxx]

Big respect to Uthgaard. That VP shit is fucked up.

[Bubbles]

Tyen approved.

lol awesome. so awesome.

The last 48 hours have been nuts. I actually agree with Nedala for once -- just fucking shut down RnF forever. We lose nothing outside of being able to kill time at work. It's detrimental to server health.

There's not a single person who habitually posts in RnF that's a decent fucking human being. Period.

-------

I think the parallel everyone is missing here on Uthgaard is in regards to the banning. TMO/TR has so much to lose face-wise being involved in the SEQ/MQ2 bannings they basically have to eject and burn ties with anyone involved in the cheating. Or else there's really no point in claiming to be the authentic 'good guys'.

Perhaps Uthgaard simply felt the same way about Xzerion. The Whitest-Knight way of looking at it is he'd rather eject Xzer from the project and sacrifice himself in the process than be involved in something that was just unhealthy and corrupt.

Either that, or he just saw Xzerion as the guy not pulling his weight at work, the guy who steals food out of the break-room fridge, calls his long-distance girlfriend on company time, and loads his car up with staplers and ball-point petns on the way out the door. /shrug.

As for 'ZOMG ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS CONTENT DEVELOPEMENT' arguemkent. Lol, fuck off already! If that was even remotely true, those overseeing the project would have ejected every person banned for cheating from ever being to log into p99 again, and sent Salty directly to their house to kick them in the nuts. There would be no leniancy, project integrity the only thing that would matter. That's not the case, so that's obviously not the top priority.

[Aenor]

...ejected every person banned for cheating from ever being to log into p99 again, and sent Salty directly to their house to kick them in the nuts.

I support this.

[deneauth]

:)

[Slathar]

lol awesome. so awesome.

The last 48 hours have been nuts. I actually agree with Nedala for once -- just fucking shut down RnF forever. We lose nothing outside of being able to kill time at work. It's detrimental to server health.

There's not a single person who habitually posts in RnF that's a decent fucking human being. Period.


yes, this log coming out is detrimental to the server. lets just keep playing while one guild cheats and uses insider information so others cannot compete.

solution? censor everyone! idiot.

[Sniperfire]

the biggest problem this server has is the forum. Shut down RnF, heavily mod server chat and we are golden :)



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[Tarathiel]

Oooo the plot thickens

[Kruel]

so its obvious uthgaard leakd this because we know nilbog didnt. Also WTF is this were GMs are hacking or reading(without permision) a raid guilds private forum. Guess now we know were tmo gets all there knowledge.

[Deuces]

So glad i donated two weeks ago.

[Slathar]

so its obvious uthgaard leakd this because we know nilbog didnt. Also WTF is this were GMs are hacking or reading(without permision) a raid guilds private forum. Guess now we know were tmo gets all there knowledge.

This person is in TR, btw. The continual denial and attacks on Uthgaard coupled with the cries of innocent are only coming from TR members. Interesting, I wonder if there is a bias.

Also, learn the difference between their and there.

[mitic]

86.09[23:50] <Uthgaard> this server went to shit the month i backed off. you lost a lot of players until i came back and started handling issues

well, is there anything else to say about this person?

whats his toons/guilds name? i want to know it now

[midgetzebra]

lol.. jesus christ just shut it down then

[Supreme]

All of this drama is because of 1 GM.

It isnt because of Xzerion,Nilbog or Rogean. Xzerion has been here from the start and the issue of "trust" is not going to be questioned. Xzerion will always have the benefit of the doubt because he has been a contributing member of the project since before it was released.

Now i do not like Xzerion (my reasons are other) but Uthgaard is and has always been OVER THE LINE. Never ,on live or a emu, have I seen so much disrespect/insubordination coming from a subordinate GM/Dev as i have seen with Uthgaard. He seemed to write his own policy on how to handle things then wonders why he catches feedback from the Server Admins?

I say good riddance. In time your drama will fade and people will either decide to keep playing or not. Regardless of what people are "suspected" of doing.

[mitic]

you really must be the biggest fucking retard ever. your guild leader is the reason this server is fucking going down the drain.

with that said, we all know Xzerion is using inside info to keep TR alive.

please provide evidence cause i dont see any in above post.

protip:
1.) go to server select
2.) double klick irreverent
3.) lvl 70 in one or two days (depends on class)
4.) go to vp (dont need key there) and slay dragons 24/7 till you know the zone by heart

also,
when i actively raided in TR for months, i havent seen xzerion leading a raid once. added to that, xzerion was maybe on 20% of the time we raided stuff. and on top of that, as a ranger, i was mainly in charge tracking stuff while we raided and it was me who called the spawns and not some 3rd party programm

besides that,

http://askanatheist.tv/files/2011/07/500x_tin-foil-hat.jpg

all iam seeing on this forums lately is this:
1. my guild is not organized enuf to coordinate raids upon spawns
2. QQ
3. read forums and see ppl accusing TR to cheat
4. "that must be the reason!"
5. join the witchhunt

[Deuces]

Was that before they started using hacks and didnt need rangers to track anymore?

[mitic]

Was that before they started using hacks and didnt need rangers to track anymore?

stop flattering me ;). its not like iam the only ranger on the server (besides druids and bards or feign shk/monks/necs on spawnpoints)

besides that it helps when u know when a boss was killed last, ya know

[superapan]

This person is in TR, btw. The continual denial and attacks on Uthgaard coupled with the cries of innocent are only coming from TR members. Interesting, I wonder if there is a bias.
It doesn't help their case that they continue to post 'anonymously' without presenting their true affiliation, it further raises the suspicion. Thanks for the heads up in this thread, Slathar.

[Daldolma]

This person is in TR, btw. The continual denial and attacks on Uthgaard coupled with the cries of innocent are only coming from TR members. Interesting, I wonder if there is a bias.

Also, learn the difference between their and there.

Then let me fix that. I'm not in TR, never have been, and never will be. I have a lot more friends in TMO than TR, and honestly, don't like most TR members I run across in-game. That being said, the reason for Project 1999's success is the level of professionalism brought to it by Nilbog. He is the one and only difference between P99 and EQClassic, or any of the other failed emulated attempts. The server was a success before Uthgaard, and it's still a success after him. He had a distorted image of his own station.

If you're an adult, you've interacted with people like this. People that are hard-working and well-intentioned, but ultimately undone by their ego and lack of respect. Ego is the important thing here. Uth clearly felt he didn't get enough credit from Nilbog and Rogean. He felt undermined. He felt that minimal contributors like Xzerion were afforded equal status, and that bothered him. So what's the biggest wave Uth could possibly make? How does he assert himself as the third leg of a Nilbog-Rogean tripod? By taking down another Dev who happens to be an officer/leader of the #1 raiding guild on the server. That's the big-dick move. It makes him top dog. But he ran into a couple problems. #1, his evidence was CLEARLY insufficient. He had a developer looking into some basic facts of a yet-to-be released raid zone. Not exactly damning. And he had some info from TR's site that suggested they had created an exact-replica of P99's VP. Except Nilbog has the database secured and KNOWS that not even Xzerion could access that information -- meaning the claim was essentially braggadocio. TR's info was garden variety fact collection. The fact that they nerded-up their own server for practice is embarrassing, but not illegal. Is it possible that Xzerion was abusing his position? Sure. It's been a source of speculation for years. But there still isn't any evidence, and given his level of access, it wouldn't be as easy for him to gain an unfair advantage as most seem to believe.

Uth did a lot of good for this server, but he was all wrong on this. It's reverse scientific method. He made his conclusion, then found facts to fit the narrative. He's made posts in the past asking for Xz to choose between GL and Dev status -- it was clearly something that bothered him. He presented the information in a highly inappropriate manner, was disrespectful to his superiors, and eventually leaked information that harmed the server in order to exact his own punishment on Xzerion, regardless of Nilbog and Rogean's opinions. It was poor form. I hope bridges can eventually be rebuilt, because there's no question Uthgaard was a net-positive for the server. He was all wrong on this, though, and he owes the entire staff -- Xzerion most of all -- a big apology.

[YendorLootmonkey]

He had a developer looking into some basic facts of a yet-to-be released raid zone.

The developer who happens to be guild leader of the guild that is presumed to be the ones in that raid zone first, who would stand to benefit most from their guild leader knowing how VP works on P99 (since damage formulas, AC, resists, etc, are all 'approximated' from Live and therefore the guides that already exist out on the Internet.) Perception is 90% of reality. Why not send a different developer to do that checking to avoid the potential drama?

Is it possible that Xzerion was abusing his position? Sure. It's been a source of speculation for years. But there still isn't any evidence, and given his level of access, it wouldn't be as easy for him to gain an unfair advantage as most seem to believe.

I thought the entire point of Uthgaard's accusations was that Xzerion was on the version of the P99 Veeshan's Peak, after not having done any dev work in a year, running GM commands to glean information from that zone -- information that could be used to fine-tune TR's version of the VP server they are using "to practice" on?

Is there absolute proof that those were the intentions, or that the communication of that data back to whoever's managing the DB for the "practice" server ever took place? No, of course not. That is the "beauty" of it... the only people who can prove it are the ones allegedly doing it, if that was in fact what was taking place -- and they would know that. So all Uthgaard is left with is speculation, and then there's the perception of what's going on behind the scenes that the rest of us are considering 90% reality, because... come on... can anyone make this look more suspicious if they actually tried?

You got a dev who also has a play character. Fine.

That character also happens to be guild leader of a guild. Eh, okay.

That guild also happens to be the guild that gets most of the raid targets on the server. Come on now.

The dev was poking around in VP and there is news of a "guild practice VP server" going up for that guild. Seriously?!?!?

Whatever the true story is... someone has GOT to understand how this looks to the rest of the server.

[YendorLootmonkey]

(since damage formulas, AC, resists, etc, are all 'approximated' from Live and therefore the guides that already exist out on the Internet do not completely reflect what will be the case on P99, necessarily.)

FIFM

[Glitch]

You know, I'm seeing a lot of posts about people wanting to quit p99 because of cheating and GM corruption. It actually makes me want to come back and play. :(

[Waedawen]

All the Uthgaard fanboys didn't even play server when he wasn't a guide.

There is so many bullshit topics going around right now and most of them involve one key thing: him. Ever since he joined the team this whole "lawbringer" attitude has done nothing but agitate unhealthy competition between guilds and unhealthy resentment towards "the authority" which, in my mind, no doubt led to an increase in SEQ etc.
They want to down the Target as fast as they can so they do not have to deal with any bullshit that Uthgaard and his new self-imposed policy has to bring.

There used to be at least 80 people in Fear or Hate on any given night, back in the day, and you'd only hear about it if something -truly- hilarious went down. Now, any time TR and TMO are in the same Zone together, somebody's cheating and somebody's in the wrong.

Healthy competition is replaced by unhealthy competition (cheating) on the development of unnecessary regulation. Nilbog has a point with his, "there are no Nilbog Hate Threads" statement because a laissez-faire policy on end-game raiding is, QUITE OBVIOUSLY, the correct route. Obviously, as Nilbog said 'security cameras' are necessary but an 'armed guard' would do everything but promote fair play.

It was much better without him, it will be much better without him.

[nalkin]

Why is it even allowed for a developer to be a guild leader? Should be only one or the other... not both.

[yaaaflow]

Anyone who can read that log and not be glad that Uthgaard is gone... I just don't get. This is and always has been Nilbog's project, and without his development work and Rogean's hosting this server would be roughly as successful as the dozen other attempts at remaking classic EQ. Uthgaard on the other hand just alienates the playerbase and powertrips at every possible opportunity. Good developer, terrible GM.

[Daldolma]

I thought the entire point of Uthgaard's accusations was that Xzerion was on the version of the P99 Veeshan's Peak, after not having done any dev work in a year, running GM commands to glean information from that zone -- information that could be used to fine-tune TR's version of the VP server they are using "to practice" on?

That's not accurate. Xz does Dev work -- he's just an infrequent contributor. The contention is that he's only doing Dev work on raid zones, which even if true, is not any type of infraction. He's been a major contributor to the development of this server over the years. If at this point he chooses to only help develop zones that interest him, I'd say he's earned that right.

More importantly, the list of commands he used were pretty innocuous. You cite things like damage formulas, AC, resists -- but they know what he looked at, and it wasn't that. He checked pretty simple things. Everything he learned via Dev-commands was already posted in Nilbog's VP post. You say perception is everything, but the perception of this situation is highly skewed because the person releasing all the information is inextricably biased.

We have all read the log. Both Nilbog and Rogean don't think Xzerion was guilty of anything significant. So either Nilbog, Rogean, and Xzerion are all so biased that they're intentionally handing the server to TR and even covering it up when found out, or Uthgaard is way out of line. I just don't believe you get a server like this with people that irresponsible in charge. Everything leads me to believe that Nilbog, for one, values server integrity over all else. And anyway, if the two heads of the server wanted TR getting every raid mob, there are a lot better ways for them to do that than letting Xzerion have minimal developer powers to check HP counts and aggro radius on raid mobs.

[Messianic]

1) Shutting down RNF will be negative to the server's health.

If there isn't a place for people to be frank and let out all their garbage, it will be let out everywhere else. Mods can just barely control things as it is - eventually they'll get overrun by bullcrap. RnF threads do no harm to the server at all which wouldn't have happened anyway - I don't see the difference between massive, supposedly detrimental garbage being posted here and it being posted anywhere else, except that moderators will have a crapton more work to do.

2) Cyrano claimed that the only thing that matters is development of the server. This is absolutely wrong.

Development will be of limited value if hacking persists or gets worse. Unless hacking is dealt with (with an iron hand, and hopefully those who are behind it are smart enough to keep up with the hackers), it will be enough of a drag on the server to cause substantial harm, regardless how well the server is developed.

While i'm disappointed with the punishment rendered during the most recent hacker bust, I hope Rogean is true to his word (I've found he is) in having no mercy for anyone caught in the future.


Uthgaard never alienated the player base. He alienated a lot of people compared to others, but even that population was mostly a very tiny collection of scumbags that needed it. I'm sure he erred a couple times, but nearly every single one of his hardass moves I've agreed with.

[YendorLootmonkey]

I just don't believe you get a server like this with people that irresponsible in charge. Everything leads me to believe that Nilbog, for one, values server integrity over all else.

I agree... because they could have just as easily had Xzerion stage a "stepping down" from his dev role "for the health of the server", and then re-invited him back under a different dev persona and no one would have been the wiser. But they didn't -- they put restrictions on his access in place, how actively he could participate in leading raids, etc, which does speak volumes for doing the right thing and "playing the hand one is dealt" instead of taking the easy route and trying to do something underhanded.

However, I think they underestimated the perceptions created by the following train of thought:


You got a dev who also has a play character. Fine.

That character also happens to be guild leader of a guild. Eh, okay.

That guild also happens to be the guild that gets most of the raid targets on the server. Come on now.

The dev was poking around in VP and there is news of a "guild practice VP server" going up for that guild. Seriously?!?!

[Slathar]

Anyone who can read that log and not be glad that Uthgaard is gone... I just don't get. This is and always has been Nilbog's project, and without his development work and Rogean's hosting this server would be roughly as successful as the dozen other attempts at remaking classic EQ. Uthgaard on the other hand just alienates the playerbase and powertrips at every possible opportunity. Good developer, terrible GM.

This person was in IB and also was in TR, btw. I believe his name is Magicflow a magician in TR. More bias.

[Bodeanicus]

77.09[23:40] <Uthgaard> you don't listen to me when it matters. you bend to pressure from guilds and forum idiots. you canned me with less evidence. i've given this server more than anyone else has, and it's been over a year, and still get treated like i'm some sort of an outsider. rogean tries to make every twat that pays him attention a gm, and is so far out of touch he didn't even realize that tmo was da until i told him. you're out of touch as well, i'm one of your biggest resources, but you never contact me. go ahead and make your generalizations that i'm rude and disrespectful. the half the staff that isn't trying to use the server for its own benefit will give you a different story.

86.09[23:50] <Uthgaard> this server went to shit the month i backed off. you lost a lot of players until i came back and started handling issues

92.09[23:51] <Uthgaard> you know what? i had this discussion with rogean when he made the same accusation
93.09[23:51] <Uthgaard> he walked away from that argument humbled

144.09[00:12] <Uthgaard> what i'm trying to tell you is that i understand group psychology very well. i know what i'm doing and i do what i do with a reason

Uth has issues. I can't believe he'd release that chatlog. It didn't help him.

And there we have it: My pussy hurts because you guys won't let me hang out, so I'm going to take it out on the players. What a crybaby cunt.

[Daldolma]

Why is it even allowed for a developer to be a guild leader? Should be only one or the other... not both.

Because obviously his contributions are valued, but he wants to play. If he's removed from Dev duty, the whole server loses out on his work and you pile more onto the plates of other Devs. But from everything I can tell, his status as guildleader is completely overblown. He was instrumental in the forming of IB but if you speak to any TR member about him, he never leads raids and his attendance is pretty low. A lot of members don't even know him. He's basically an honorary officer -- he's not the lead man like Bumamgar was in WI.

[yaaaflow]

This person was in IB and also was in TR, btw. I believe his name is Magicflow a magician in TR. More bias.

True story, I've never tried to hide my identity on here anyone could find that out with a 2 minute look at my post history. I've got nothing to hide bro, can you say the same?

[Daldolma]

However, I think they underestimated the perceptions created by the following train of thought:

I don't think they underestimated it so much as they can't do anything about it. I think they would hate to lose Xz's contributions as a Dev, and they don't want to be dishonest about anything because they feel the truth is that there actually is no unfair advantage for Xz and thus they have nothing to hide. How do you solve those problems without losing Xz as a Dev? You'd either have to have Xz lie about his play-character or switch Dev names -- neither of which actually changes anything. It would be dishonest.

And FWIW, I don't think the fact that he's an officer matters. That cat is already out of the bag. If he gets demoted to member, nobody will think any differently about him or his role, fair or not.

[mitic]

However, I think they underestimated the perceptions created by the following train of thought:

You got a dev who also has a play character. Fine.

That character also happens to be guild leader of a guild. Eh, okay.

That guild also happens to be the guild that gets most of the raid targets on the server. Come on now.

The dev was poking around in VP and there is news of a "guild practice VP server" going up for that guild. Seriously?!?!


u are long enuf on the server to know different. srsly, why are YOU jumping on the bandwaggon...

[Autotune]

I don't think they underestimated it so much as they can't do anything about it. I think they would hate to lose Xz's contributions as a Dev, and they don't want to be dishonest about anything because they feel the truth is that there actually is no unfair advantage for Xz and thus they have nothing to hide. How do you solve those problems without losing Xz as a Dev? You'd either have to have Xz lie about his play-character or switch Dev names -- neither of which actually changes anything. It would be dishonest.

And FWIW, I don't think the fact that he's an officer matters. That cat is already out of the bag. If he gets demoted to member, nobody will think any differently about him or his role, fair or not.

I don't know Xz, dunno how active he is as a developer. However, after reading the Uth-Nil convo log and seeing some of the TR members and people that supposedly know him say he doesn't develop very often/much, how is his contribution that great?

Supposedly by Uthgaards words "Xz doesn't develop shit" and nilbog doesn't disagree. Other's have said he only develops when it is of interest to his guild. So how is his contribution that great? Especially when only his guild and TMO will even be in VP for quite some time.

I dunno, maybe it's just me, but I don't see how you can get shit talked about you slacking as a Dev and then have such great contributions that you are a great asset. Unless you are a TR member or TMO member, why would anyone care about VP currently.

Correct me if i am wrong, but how many other guilds even give a flying fuck about VP atm with the current raid scene? I'm thinking only 2.

[Chanur]

I don't know Xz, dunno how active he is as a developer. However, after reading the Uth-Nil convo log and seeing some of the TR members and people that supposedly know him say he doesn't develop very often/much, how is his contribution that great?



Exactly you don't know shit. One of the main developers and owners said he has contributed greatly. So stop running your cock holster about shit that has been addressed you worthless moron.

[Daldolma]

It's not that his contributions are "so great". It's just that they're contributions. I don't know anything about developing, but I'd imagine that when you find a capable Dev who has proven himself with years of work, you don't want to lose him as a Dev -- even if he isn't nearly as active as Uthgaard was.

And with regards to VP, I don't think there's any question that Xz was focusing on developing areas that interest him. But I don't think that's necessarily unreasonable.

[Papa]

So it comes down to who you trust:

Nilbog and Rogean... or Uthgaard.

Let's see... someone who jumps to conclusions, gains access to and leaks selective/partial info from only one guild website to mislead and misinform. Has ego issues. Thinks saying something over and over again will make it true although both his superiors say otherwise...

Or the creator of the project, the lead developer, the server administrator, lead programmer.

Hm, tough choice.

[Autotune]

Exactly you don't know shit. One of the main developers and owners said he has contributed greatly. So stop running your cock holster about shit that has been addressed you worthless moron.

222.09[00:53] <Uthgaard> he doesn't develop anything
223.[00:53] <nilbog> neither do you


seems Nilbog didn't disagree.

[YendorLootmonkey]

u are long enuf on the server to know different. srsly, why are YOU jumping on the bandwaggon...

I have enough experience with the history of shady shit going down 11+ years ago back on Xegony to have a certain perception of the way things go here, just like the rest of everyone else that is not TR, Mitic. Do you think you're going to merge with IB as part of Darkwind and they're just going to be like "Hey new Darkwind friends, here's what we've got going on, just so everyone knows..."

When I first started the server, it was like "Oh cool... fellow Xegony players! Haha, oh shit... they used to be in Inner Circle! Surely things have changed over the years!" and now it's like "Mmmm hmmm."

http://vbulletin.venatorsapentia.com/showpost.php?p=63406&postcount=6

http://www.venatorsapentia.com/showpost.php?p=63452&postcount=15

http://forums.clant2k.com/showpost.php?p=526676&postcount=182

[Spud]

http://pastebin.com/ZeEmdGYH


read it fast

It took me about 5 min to read do I win a prize?

88.[23:50] <nilbog> you can talk to rogean about players. i like npcs. you know this. i don't even like people.

Sig worthy haha

[Knuckle]

I have enough experience with the history of shady shit going down 11+ years ago back on Xegony to have a certain perception of the way things go here, just like the rest of everyone else that is not TR, Mitic. Do you think you're going to merge with IB as part of Darkwind and they're just going to be like "Hey new Darkwind friends, here's what we've got going on, just so everyone knows..."

When I first started the server, it was like "Oh cool... fellow Xegony players! Haha, oh shit... they used to be in Inner Circle! Surely things have changed over the years!" and now it's like "Mmmm hmmm."

http://vbulletin.venatorsapentia.com/showpost.php?p=63406&postcount=6

http://www.venatorsapentia.com/showpost.php?p=63452&postcount=15

http://forums.clant2k.com/showpost.php?p=526676&postcount=182

oh shit, yendor gravedigger with the hat trick.

[nalkin]

Because obviously his contributions are valued, but he wants to play. If he's removed from Dev duty, the whole server loses out on his work and you pile more onto the plates of other Devs. But from everything I can tell, his status as guildleader is completely overblown. He was instrumental in the forming of IB but if you speak to any TR member about him, he never leads raids and his attendance is pretty low. A lot of members don't even know him. He's basically an honorary officer -- he's not the lead man like Bumamgar was in WI.

It doesn't matter how much he plays. Personally I don't think a developer should be playing at all. It has to much potential to corrupt, you either do one or the other. There is a reason if you play D&D you don't play DM and a player.

Regardless of what Xzerion's real intentions were, if he didn't play the game (especially in the lead guild) then none of this speculation would have happened at all, because you would know his intentions were only to develop.

I would rather have a slower release of content then a chance that the server is corrupted by people who have power and who play the game.

[Daldolma]

It's really as simple as this: Xzerion doesn't have the ability to do what he's being accused of. He didn't have access to the DB, which would be the only way to recreate VP as it is on P99. At most, if you actually believe Xzerion was doing what he did in VP for TR info, he got them the same information that Nilbog had already posted on the P99 forums. This was confirmed by both Nilbog and Rogean, who say he did nothing wrong. It's silly to believe Nilbog and Rogean are in on some kind of conspiracy to recreate test servers for TR.

[Spud]

You got a dev who also has a play character. Fine.

That character also happens to be guild leader of a guild. Eh, okay.

That guild also happens to be the guild that gets most of the raid targets on the server. Come on now.

The dev was poking around in VP and there is news of a "guild practice VP server" going up for that guild. Seriously?!?!?

Whatever the true story is... someone has GOT to understand how this looks to the rest of the server.

QFT

Nilbog and Rogean must realize how this is perceived by other raid guilds. Nilbog says he looked at Xzerion's work and there appears to be nothing shady going on. We will just have to take his word for it.

But at long as a dev is a raid leader of the top raid guild there will always be speculation...

[Daldolma]

It doesn't matter how much he plays. Personally I don't think a developer should be playing at all. It has to much potential to corrupt, you either do one or the other. There is a reason if you play D&D you don't play DM and a player.

Regardless of what Xzerion's real intentions were, if he didn't play the game (especially in the lead guild) then none of this speculation would have happened at all, because you would know his intentions were only to develop.

I would rather have a slower release of content then a chance that the server is corrupted by people who have power and who play the game.

Right, but it's not up to you and that's not really a reasonable request. Developing is a ton of work, and Xzerion is proven aid. The development team obviously feels they need his help, and that's all that matters.

The potential for corruption is mostly paranoia. He doesn't have access to GM ability or the database, and even his developer abilities are abridged. He's probably monitored more closely than anyone on P99. There's no real risk, which is why all the claptrap about Xz is largely swept aside by Nilbog and Rogean. They KNOW he's not using his position to his advantage, because they've made it so he can't.

[Daldolma]

But at long as a dev is a raid leader of the top raid guild there will always be speculation...

He's not even a raid leader, though.

[Uaellaen]

It's really as simple as this: Xzerion doesn't have the ability to do what he's being accused of. He didn't have access to the DB, which would be the only way to recreate VP as it is on P99. At most, if you actually believe Xzerion was doing what he did in VP for TR info, he got them the same information that Nilbog had already posted on the P99 forums. This was confirmed by both Nilbog and Rogean, who say he did nothing wrong. It's silly to believe Nilbog and Rogean are in on some kind of conspiracy to recreate test servers for TR.

i think nilbog said it over and over again, he wants to recreate the classic experience, he doesnt care about TR or TMO or Divinity or whatever, he cares about bugs, exploits and developement ...

[Autotune]

He's not even a raid leader, though.

honestly wouldn't matter if he was or not.

If Xz was/is abusing his position some how, all he would have to do is inform raid leaders of various bugs and so on.

[Uthgaard]

Right, but it's not up to you and that's not really a reasonable request. Developing is a ton of work, and Xzerion is proven aid. The development team obviously feels they need his help, and that's all that matters.

The potential for corruption is mostly paranoia. He doesn't have access to GM ability or the database, and even his developer abilities are abridged. He's probably monitored more closely than anyone on P99. There's no real risk, which is why all the claptrap about Xz is largely swept aside by Nilbog and Rogean. They KNOW he's not using his position to his advantage, because they've made it so he can't.

You are incorrect, but stating this as fact. You should stop. 250 status on the development server was all that was necessary to gather that information. You can do this by using certain commands. Coincidentally. those commands were used, and in sufficient volume to get that information. No others, none of benefit to any development, none in any capacity that was not of direct interest to raiding. With 250 status, you can get hard values for everything, except the pathing. Coincidentally, the clone was touted as an exact copy, minus the pathing. Those are the facts.

[Spud]

He's not even a raid leader, though.

well officer / former raid leder / former leader of IB / a guy with ton of knowledge about raiding in EQ.

He doesn't have to lead every raid just share whatever knowledge he has about raid bosses or how certain mobs path.

[Glitch]

It all makes sense now. Rogean and Nilbog, you think you can hide the truth forever, but I know now what the media is afraid to say: Xzerion used dev codes.

First of all, prior to 9/11, fire has never caused any steel frame building to collapse. The sudden, vertical, total collapse of the Twin Towers at near freefall speed can only be explained by the use of GM commands.

Furthermore, the WTC steel, if fully examined could have revealed the effects of explosives, which was quickly shipped oversees and melted down. Nice cover-up, Rogean. Deleting Xzerion's command logs was a violation of federal crime scene laws.

[Ring]

You are incorrect, but stating this as fact. You should stop. 250 status on the development server was all that was necessary to gather that information. You can do this by using certain commands. Coincidentally. those commands were used, and in sufficient volume to get that information. No others, none of benefit to any development, none in any capacity that was not of direct interest to raiding. With 250 status, you can get hard values for everything, except the pathing. Coincidentally, the clone was touted as an exact copy, minus the pathing. Those are the facts.

And coincidentally all that information could have been gathered without Xzerion's help since it was hit point / damage / abilities. Which is all over the place (with links in Nilbog's VP thread on these forums). You don't have to steal P1999's data to recreate a copy if you're both using the same sources.

[Autotune]

You are incorrect, but stating this as fact. You should stop. 250 status on the development server was all that was necessary to gather that information. You can do this by using certain commands. Coincidentally. those commands were used, and in sufficient volume to get that information. No others, none of benefit to any development, none in any capacity that was not of direct interest to raiding. With 250 status, you can get hard values for everything, except the pathing. Coincidentally, the clone was touted as an exact copy, minus the pathing. Those are the facts.

http://static.tumblr.com/tsnibuz/r0Plpoywd/78533.jpg

[yaaaflow]

It all makes sense now. Rogean and Nilbog, you think you can hide the truth forever, but I know now what the media is afraid to say: Xzerion used dev codes.

First of all, prior to 9/11, fire has never caused any steel frame building to collapse. The sudden, vertical, total collapse of the Twin Towers at near freefall speed can only be explained by the use of GM commands.

Furthermore, the WTC steel, if fully examined could have revealed the effects of explosives, which was quickly shipped oversees and melted down. Nice cover-up, Rogean. Deleting Xzerion's command logs was a violation of federal crime scene laws.

Confirmed giant Erudite wearing a CRoA knocked down da towers.

[Spud]

The WTC steel was exposed to high octane jet engine fuel for hours which burned much hotter than any fire the structural engineer's could have ever imagined!

[Orruar]

QFT

Nilbog and Rogean must realize how this is perceived by other raid guilds. Nilbog says he looked at Xzerion's work and there appears to be nothing shady going on. We will just have to take his word for it.

But at long as a dev is a raid leader of the top raid guild there will always be speculation...

Except that they deal with favoritism by staff rather harshly. Just ask (former) GM Cyrius what happens when a staff member attempts to use their power for their own purposes.

[Knuckle]

Why in the world would P99 let staff have active accounts in game while their on development or Gms etc. that's just a bad idea.

[mitic]

QFT

Nilbog and Rogean must realize how this is perceived by other raid guilds. Nilbog says he looked at Xzerion's work and there appears to be nothing shady going on. We will just have to take his word for it.

But at long as a dev is a raid leader of the top raid guild there will always be speculation...

lets go deeper would we?

who pasted that conversation into pastebin and for what purpose?

why keeps uthgaard pestering the whole staff with accusations about a guildleader for ages?

why does uthgaard say that without him the server would go down the tube?

maybe because uthgaard wants to climb up to the management level?

who knows who knows

[Airdefier]

Tyen approved.


this wins life.

[Twopair]

Wish I had quoted that Uthgaard, they are hiding!

[Eternal-Elf]

Wish I had quoted that Uthgaard, they are hiding!

dude I saw that shit too.

Why was it removed within 60 seconds?????

[deneauth]

Yeah i missed my oppertunity to read it. Saw he posted it and it was gone when i clicked on the link.

[Twopair]

dude I saw that shit too.

Why was it removed within 60 seconds?????

I wonder......

[Twopair]

I really hope you guys are more clever than I, and SS'd the post.

[Daldolma]

You are incorrect, but stating this as fact. You should stop. 250 status on the development server was all that was necessary to gather that information. You can do this by using certain commands. Coincidentally. those commands were used, and in sufficient volume to get that information. No others, none of benefit to any development, none in any capacity that was not of direct interest to raiding. With 250 status, you can get hard values for everything, except the pathing. Coincidentally, the clone was touted as an exact copy, minus the pathing. Those are the facts.

I understand what you're saying, and I don't mean to spout misinformation, but were the hard values he accessed any more comprehensive than those posted in Nilbog's VP thread? And you say he didn't do anything of developmental value, but didn't you say in the log that he made entries on the days you saw him in VP? So he had to have had something he was working on. If what he accessed was privileged information sufficient to recreate VP, and he was working on nothing relevant to that information, and TR actually recreated a correct P99-clone VP, how could Nilbog and Rogean ignore that? It doesn't add up. Something is missing, whether the information wasn't actually privileged, wasn't sufficient to recreate VP, or the hard values used by TR were incorrect (and thus not provided by Xz).

[Glitch]

dude I saw that shit too.

Why was it removed within 60 seconds?????

Nilbog and Rogean cover-up. The entire thing was an inside job to begin with as a plot to rob us of our liberties and now it's being covered up.

VPTruth.net

[mitic]

hypothesis:
even IF TR was raiding on a VP clone, what does it help else than wiping one or two times less than without having this "advantage" ?

everyone of you can start a char on irreverent and test VP out whenever you want
hypothesis

now back to live P99: TRs strenght are those nolifers in guild that keep tracking/camping stuff 24/7 getin things done. if thats a reason to be guilty so be it!

the only accomplishment of uthgaard the last days was feeding the trolls in here, gratz on that.

[purist]

Where did Uthgaard's post go

[Spud]

lets go deeper would we?

who pasted that conversation into pastebin and for what purpose?

why keeps uthgaard pestering the whole staff with accusations about a guildleader for ages?

why does uthgaard say that without him the server would go down the tube?

maybe because uthgaard wants to climb up to the management level?

who knows who knows

not sure, obviously someone leaked the convo and its more likely to be Uthgaard than Nilbog. Uthgaard was not without his faults as we all know but he definitely cared. Maybe cared TOO much. Surprised the pastebin link is still up but I guess the GMs figure the cat's out of the bag and it will be discussed somewhere.

anyway, time to go outside and get some fresh air. I wonder what will or will not be on RnF when I get back...

[Twopair]

hypothesis:
even IF TR was raiding on a VP clone, what does it help else than wiping one or two times less than without having this "advantage" ?

everyone of you can start a char on irreverent and test VP out whenever you want
hypothesis

now back to live P99: TRs strenght are those nolifers in guild that keep tracking/camping stuff 24/7 getin things done. if thats a reason to be guilty so be it!

the only accomplishment of uthgaard the last days was feeding the trolls in here, gratz on that.

What about testing Sky?

[Bodeanicus]

You are incorrect, but stating this as fact. You should stop. 250 status on the development server was all that was necessary to gather that information. You can do this by using certain commands. Coincidentally. those commands were used, and in sufficient volume to get that information. No others, none of benefit to any development, none in any capacity that was not of direct interest to raiding. With 250 status, you can get hard values for everything, except the pathing. Coincidentally, the clone was touted as an exact copy, minus the pathing. Those are the facts.

And... nobody gives a shit, Mary Martyr. Wash the sand out of your vagina, smoke a joint, get laid, or whatever it is you do for enjoyment besides abusing people who have no path for recourse, and get the fuck over it. Or better yet, start your own fucking server where you'll be able to abuse the player base as you see fit. Jesus, you're a pussy.

[YendorLootmonkey]

And coincidentally all that information could have been gathered without Xzerion's help since it was hit point / damage / abilities. Which is all over the place (with links in Nilbog's VP thread on these forums). You don't have to steal P1999's data to recreate a copy if you're both using the same sources.

No, but it sure helps to know the differences in advance to know how to use them to your advantage until another guild gets in there and tries to do the same thing.


206.09[00:48] <Uthgaard> his 'this shit is too easy' is biased around giving them the advantage
207.09[00:49] <Uthgaard> has he given you a 'this shit is too easy' about the spot they're using to heal on trak from? puts the healers at zero risk
208.09[00:49] <Uthgaard> the threads in their forum confirm their motives. they tell you about it once tmo adopts it and start beating them at it. their forums confirm that whole ivandyr hoop thing being to fuck tmo over

[Glitch]

We want truthful answers to questions such as:

Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked raid zones not followed that day?

Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Veeshan's Peak not activated during the incident?

Why hasn't a single person been banned, suspended, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?

Why haven't authorities published the results of multiple investigations into chatlogs and GM command logs that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the Veeshan's Peak incident, resulting in tens of millions of platinum in gains?

Why has Perun/Trax, a former TR Raid Leader who claims to have knowledge of advance warnings, been publicly silenced with a gag order requested by Attorney General Rogean and granted by a Nilbog-appointed judge?

How could Xzerion, who is reportedly "250 level", have had access to damage tables, mob scripts, and pathing data for 40 minutes without being detected by the Uthgaard's radar or the even superior radar possessed by Rogean and Nilbog?

What happened to the over 20 documented forum posts given to Rants and Flames by Uthgaard?

Why did the Rogean administration cover up the fact that the head of the Transatlantic Rampage was in CSHome the week of the VP Incident and reportedly had 100,000 plat wired Perun/Trax, considered the ringleader of the hackers?

Why did the VP Commission fail to address most of the questions posed by the families of the victims, in addition to almost all of the questions posed here?

VP WAS AN INSIDE JOB

[Uthgaard]

We want truthful answers to questions such as:

Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked raid zones not followed that day?

Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Veeshan's Peak not activated during the incident?

Why hasn't a single person been banned, suspended, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?

Why haven't authorities published the results of multiple investigations into chatlogs and GM command logs that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the Veeshan's Peak incident, resulting in tens of millions of platinum in gains?

Why has Perun/Trax, a former TR Raid Leader who claims to have knowledge of advance warnings, been publicly silenced with a gag order requested by Attorney General Rogean and granted by a Nilbog-appointed judge?

How could Xzerion, who is reportedly "250 level", have had access to damage tables, mob scripts, and pathing data for 40 minutes without being detected by the Uthgaard's radar or the even superior radar possessed by Rogean and Nilbog?

What happened to the over 20 documented forum posts given to Rants and Flames by Uthgaard?

Why did the Rogean administration cover up the fact that the head of the Transatlantic Rampage was in CSHome the week of the VP Incident and reportedly had 100,000 plat wired Perun/Trax, considered the ringleader of the hackers?

Why did the VP Commission fail to address most of the questions posed by the families of the victims, in addition to almost all of the questions posed here?

VP WAS AN INSIDE JOB

rofl

[mitic]

What about testing Sky?

sky is also accessible on irreverent and can be tested within a day after you leveled up there.

besides that, i was active when we did sky and i can assure you that there was no hack involved and actually, i was in charge to track all the nameds for the raids i was in up there. xzerion wasnt even there most of the time... guess he was busy coding kunark to make it possible for you r&f-guys to experience nostalgia, this asshole.

[Twopair]

sky is also accessible on irreverent and can be tested within a day after you leveled up there.

besides that, i was active when we did sky and i can assure you that there was no hack involved and actually, i was in charge to track all the nameds for the raids i was in up there. xzerion wasnt even there most of the time... guess he was busy coding kunark to make it possible for you r&f-guys to experience nostalgia, this asshole.

Sir, you must have missed the logs that Uthgaard posted.
I am sure you guys never "hacked" during raids except your cheating pullers.
However, Xzerion testing sky alone on a GM account, then being able to raid it with his guild.. Out of line.

[Chanur]

222.09[00:53] <Uthgaard> he doesn't develop anything
223.[00:53] <nilbog> neither do you


seems Nilbog didn't disagree.


Just to show you are a fucking moron.

67.[23:27] <nilbog> there is not evidence in those logs to suggest xzerion was building vp for anyone. it looked like he was testing ours. which he used to do, with me, every day. he was a dumbass for making his in game name the same as his developer name.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I take it further Nalkin. It doesn't matter if the developer is guild leader or guild member. They could still abuse information and it just comes down to whether or not they can be trusted. Heck they could not even play a character here and the end result would be the same. What I read into it is the same as always.


Warden Samuel Norton: I have to say that's the most amazing story I've ever heard. What amazes me most is that you were taken in by it.
Andy Dufresne: Sir?
Warden Samuel Norton: It's obvious this fellow Williams is impressed with you, he hears your tale of woe and naturally wants to cheer you up. He's young, not terribly bright, it's not surprising he wouldn't know what a state he put you in.
Andy Dufresne: Sir, he's telling the truth.
Warden Samuel Norton: Let's say for the moment this Blatch does exist. You think he'd just fall to his knees and cry: "Yes, I did it, I confess! Oh, and by the way, add a life term to my sentence."
Andy Dufresne: You know that wouldn't matter. With Tommy's testimony I can get a new trial.
Warden Samuel Norton: That's assuming Blatch is still there. Chances are excellent he'd be released by now.
Andy Dufresne: Well they'd have his last known address, names of relatives. It's a *chance*, isn't it.
[Norton shakes his head]
Andy Dufresne: How can you be so obtuse?
Warden Samuel Norton: What? What did you call me?
Andy Dufresne: Obtuse. Is it deliberate?
Warden Samuel Norton: Son, you're forgetting yourself.
Andy Dufresne: The country club will have his old time cards. Records, W-2s with his name on them. Sir, if I ever get out, I'd never mention what happens here. I'd be just as indictable as you for laundering that money.
[Norton slaps the table]
Warden Samuel Norton: Don't you ever mention money to me again, you sorry son of a bitch! Not in this office, not anywhere!

Whether or Uthgaard is coarse or rubs his peers the wrong way or is insubordinate is a seperate issue and that is what seemed frustrating. Nilbog is right is a lot of what he said but it seemed to Uthgaard he was avoiding the real issue. I understand he looked at it and determined it was only circumstantial evidence existed but as Uthgaard says the only way to prove it is to find a record of Xzerion saying he did it or confessing now. The circumstances surrounding players on this server having access to information they shouldn't have is what matters. They cannot know they have an exact copy unless they have seen he original. Or someone that has tells them this. Is it just another coincidence? It almost seemed like amongst that double speak and sidetracking there was Uthgaard being told to take off his tin foil hat and I wish the meat of the matter was what was being dealt with. Guy doesn't 'develop' for a year but all of a sudden he is testing VP mobs as his raid guild has access to an exact copy of VP as well as him testing RoS mobs? Just another coincidence.

Just because someone says Xzerion is guilty does not make it so but on the other hand just because Uthgaard is insubordinate does not mean he is wrong. Perhaps one should look at the passion and how strongly he believes in what he is saying. If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck, and walks like a duck it is a fucking duck. If a known bank robber is casing a bank the week before it gets robbed is it just coincidence? One can say he was just looking into the best bank for his money but how weak does that sound? In real life it may not be enough to send him to jail but they certainly ask things like if they have motive. And if someone has the resources, is tied to the location, has the motive, has shown a history of a certain behavior, and their guild reaps the benefits repeatedly in game I'm not looking to send them to jail but it would be enough for me here. And at the very least it looks shady. All the things Xzerion does to remove himself from the in-game aspects to avoid such perceptions can seem transparent and hollow now. Coincidence about Vox lair, sky, and what else? The fact TR knew a month before I was flamed for exploiting the non-banishing of Nagafen when we stumbled upon it by happenstance? That they do sky encounters immediately after the encounters are changed? Or know what do in VoxLair as regards to pathing?

Spare me the talk about skill and dedication because as you talk about cheating here and the integrity of the server it appears there is much worse then macroquest and showeq involved. I don't question Nilbog or his integrity but I can honestly say Uthgaard's integrity was never in question also. Just his personal dealings with people is all. I think common sense needs to apply. Evidence is required for certain actions but this ain't the world court. What is TR going to know next before the rest of the server and use to stay on top?

Make me a fucking GM. I'll pass off guild leadership and bring these wankers into line.

[Ring]

No, but it sure helps to know the differences in advance to know how to use them to your advantage until another guild gets in there and tries to do the same thing.

The log quote is incorrect though. TR doesn't use any spot where their healers don't get hit by Trakanon's AE. I've seen their Trakanon kills (and so have 80+ other people in the lair from TMO and various guilds, if there was such a spot it would have been made public). Seb isn't exactly a private zone, especially when Trak is about to spawn. TMO started using Ivandry's Hoops long before TR, by the way.

Regardless of the above, Uthgaard's charges against Xzerion were that he was using his dev status to recreate a copy of VP. Can we agree that the evidence he showed isn't enough to support his claim? You can keep jumping to new corruption claims against Xzerion, but let's do them one at a time.

I think Xzerion is a faggot by the way. I think his holier-than-thou act is old and trite and the fact that TR is letting its members who were caught cheating reapp (Perun is going to get turned down? Really? Why even bother with this farce) makes anything he has to say about integrity suspect.

[wrxBRAH]

ya'll *****s take this game too seriously.

[Uthgaard]

The log quote is incorrect though. TR doesn't use any spot where their healers don't get hit by Trakanon's AE. I've seen their Trakanon kills (and so have 80+ other people in the lair from TMO and various guilds, if there was such a spot it would have been made public). Seb isn't exactly a private zone, especially when Trak is about to spawn. TMO started using Ivandry's Hoops long before TR, by the way.

http://i54.tinypic.com/25s4cif.jpg

That's because you are behind. It's new. This is part of their discussion of it.

Regardless of the above, Uthgaard's charges against Xzerion were that he was using his dev status to recreate a copy of VP. Can we agree that the evidence he showed isn't enough to support his claim? You can keep jumping to new corruption claims against Xzerion, but let's do them one at a time.

This isn't an isolated incident. This isn't a ragequit over a single exoneration. This is frustration over banging my head against the same wall over and over. I haven't even tipped my hand to show the mountain of logs and evidence. You all have seen a few things that people have shared around, but not everything by a long shot.

[Glitch]

http://oi53.tinypic.com/33kgm6t.jpg

[YendorLootmonkey]

sky is also accessible on irreverent and can be tested within a day after you leveled up there.

Really? Then why was it broken for so long here where you could just pet down Hand and Eye of Veeshan with 30 mages/necros? Oh, until another guild aside from TR did it... then all the pet/aggro changes (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27887) got made to shut that down real quick.

If you could just get all this info on how P99 works somewhere else, why was the beta test (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11234) for Plane of Sky needed, Mitic?

When stuff is added to P99 and it goes Live, there is stuff that is broken. You cannot dispute this fact. Examples that come to mind:

Plane of Sky
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=211431&postcount=93
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=211463&postcount=103

Trakanon being super easy
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=262198&postcount=21

Howling Stones aggro radius was too low
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26176

History here shows that if you have access to how stuff works in a zone on P99 beforehand, it puts you at an advantage because you know all of these "broken things" that aren't quite like the way they work on Live... then they have a history of magically coming out into the open after they have already been taken advantage of by the first guild using them and another guild starts benefiting. Here, there is simply no incentive to post bug reports about something you can benefit from as a guild until another guild gets a chance to do it, due to the cutthroat nature of the raid scene here.

THAT is why people are in an uproar about TR having the potential ability to know in advance how P99 VP is going to work prior to being released, due to information potentially able to be gleaned from GM commands run in that zone by Xzerion.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Yendor just is wearing a tin foil hat. You can't take ALL of those situations and chalk it up to coincidence. The fact that they will continue to have these advantages is just proof it is only coincidence obviously. If there was something to it, we would know by now.

[bluejam]

http://i54.tinypic.com/25s4cif.jpg
nonesense
Grasping at straws now?

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/9382/postion.png

We've never fought him in a different spot than the lair itself. We've only recently (check the dates) decided to move our ledge prep spot closer to the lair. Check the various fraps posted in RNF/petition forum and see where our clerics are.

Don't twist innocent tactic changes into evidence for your agenda.

[quido]

To set the record straight, Ring, TR started the hoop game before TMO; they were just better at keeping it on the down-low. I don't have a screenshot to prove this but I know I saw TR hooping mobs before TMO ever did.

[Uthgaard]

Don't twist innocent tactic changes into evidence for your agenda.

http://i51.tinypic.com/vravi9.jpg

How innocent?

Would you like me to keep going? I can dig this hole as deep as you like.

[mitic]

i gained unauthorized access into private section of tr-boards

so what are you trying to prove with the above else than confirming what kind of person you are?

http://www.mobfd.biz/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/You-Paranoid.jpg

[johnny ringo]

http://i51.tinypic.com/vravi9.jpg

How innocent?

Would you like me to keep going? I can dig this hole as deep as you like.

maybe you and loly could get a group rate on some counseling to deal with these paranoia issues?

[Kinsawt]

Am I the only person that's seen Oceans 12?

[bluejam]

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5493/quotedw.png

Not sure what this demonstrates except Kinsawt rightfully suspects their board is compromised.

[Loly Taa]

maybe you and loly could get a group rate on some counseling to deal with these paranoia issues?

Paranoia issues? It sounds like you want him to tell us more about all the corruption ;p

[Friday]

Holy FUCK this is THE strangest online community I have *ever* seen in all my professional years of surfing the internet.

@ Uthgaard,

I don't even...

[mitic]

Holy FUCK this is THE strangest online community I have *ever* seen in all my professional years of surfing the internet.

@ Uthgaard,

I don't even...

obv u missed vztz

[Moonface]

Holy FUCK this is THE strangest online community I have *ever* seen in all my professional years of surfing the internet.

@ Uthgaard,

I don't even...

sup guild hopper? who did you ever sell Jiece, that wood elf ranger, to?

[purist]

entire server opinion on one side

TR propagandists on the other

[yaaaflow]

If the entire server believes Nilbog and Rogean to be corrupt I don't see why they'd still be playing here.

Oh wait thats just the talk of a TMO propagandist at work never mind.

[Gwence]

I miss the IB/DA clashes, at least they were entertaining.


This is just... boring.

[purist]

the entire server believes Xzerion to be corrupt

FTFY

[yaaaflow]

Ok, starting with the assumption that Xzerion is corrupt then. Uthgaard gathers evidence proving this. Rogean and Nilbog look at this evidence and decide that Xzerion has not done anything wrong in this case because?

a) they're dumb
b) they're corrupt
c) they looked at the evidence provided by Uthgaard and came to the conclusion that Xzerion wasn't acting inappropriately.

I think we can rule out a) pretty easily.

b) or c)?

[Daldolma]

entire server opinion on one side

TR propagandists on the other

Prime opportunity for a joke about TMO guildsize.

In all seriousness, I think the majority of the server -- TR and TMO excluded -- doesn't really care that Xzerion plays and is an officer of TR. The conspiracy theories are mostly sour grapes from competitors. The vast majority of people on here trust Nilbog and when he says Xzerion isn't breaking the rules, that's good enough for most.

[inyane]

If the entire server believes Nilbog and Rogean to be corrupt I don't see why they'd still be playing here.

Oh wait thats just the talk of a TMO propagandist at work never mind.

Well, we'll all go play on that other classic server. Oh, wait, there is none.

So, even though the majority of players know the server is fucked, that TR gets special considerations, that cheating is widespread...we all just bow our heads and hope it doesn't affect us too much.

[Labyrrinth]

Ok, starting with the assumption that Xzerion is corrupt then. Uthgaard gathers evidence proving this. Rogean and Nilbog look at this evidence and decide that Xzerion has not done anything wrong in this case because?

a) they're dumb
b) they're corrupt
c) they looked at the evidence provided by Uthgaard and came to the conclusion that Xzerion wasn't acting inappropriately.

I think we can rule out a) pretty easily.

b) or c)?

or perhaps

d) Xzerion provides just enough value that Rogean and Nilbog decide it's better to not look to closely at possible indiscresions, that way they don't have to boot him and find a replacement.

So not necessarily corrupt, but definitely a weighted view.

[yaaaflow]

No that would definitely fall under b) corrupt

[Razdeline]

http://i51.tinypic.com/vravi9.jpg

How innocent?

Would you like me to keep going? I can dig this hole as deep as you like.

Uthgaard getting trolled by our own boards.

[Diggles]

e) Xzerion pays them to be a dev


IT'S POSSIBLE

[Bodeanicus]

entire server opinion on one side

TR propagandists on the other

Normal people who don't give a fuck about bullshit guild drama on a 12 year old game.

Crazy, OCD, Asperger's afflicted idiot constantly spouting the same line verbatim for 3 days on the other.

[Ring]

or perhaps

d) Xzerion provides just enough value that Rogean and Nilbog decide it's better to not look to closely at possible indiscresions, that way they don't have to boot him and find a replacement.

So not necessarily corrupt, but definitely a weighted view.

You know Uthgaard contributed more than Xzerion ever did. If we follow your reasoning wouldn't they try to placate Uthgaard??????????????

I want to see whatever you have on TR, Uthgaard. This situation is already a mess, there's no reason to hold back. If TR / Xzerion is as guilty as you say, let's see it.

[Skope]

or perhaps

d) Xzerion provides just enough value that Rogean and Nilbog decide it's better to not look to closely at possible indiscresions, that way they don't have to boot him and find a replacement.

So not necessarily corrupt, but definitely a weighted view.

it isn't the first time they've looked away and totally fucked it up. If any of you date back to last year's database compromise and how a couple guilds were showing up to spawns literally right before the mobs popped you'd also remember that only 8 people were banned and though the names were never given, the guilds that took advantage were never punished whatsoever. let's say that pill was difficult to swallow, especially when you've spent countless hours tracking (apparently something that 365 dumbasses refused to do) only to have a guild gather up outside and start clearing with just enough time for it to spawn "randomly."

Now 365 accounts are given a welcome mat after what can only be considered a stern talking to and players like myself, and the majority of the legit playerbase is asked to swallow that pill yet again. honestly, the both of them have to be absolutely fucking retarded to think that stripping the bank of plat and losing a few levels is somehow a just punishment. with that .dll they had opportunity to clean the server of 365 accounts who took advantage for who knows how long to gain an edge over the rest of us who decided to, and obviously quite wrongly, play fair. they could have not only said that this server is free but it also has fewer cheaters than fippy. But no, they fucked it up and balked.

I played here under the notion that the few hours i have a week i can spend here knowing that, though i won't be wearing the leetest of pixels, i'll be having fun with some great folks and that at least the sandboxes rules will apply to all equally. I was a fool.

Whatever the talk of VP and xzerion is, frankly it doesn't matter. I can't stand the notion that a week from now those who got practically a free pass will come back and that the direction of the server from that judgment alone is along the lines of the shitheads of VZTZ. That's why i'm done here.

[Diggles]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l81dioAsAe1qd7zlgo1_400.jpg

[Kruel]

Uthgaard it shows the quality of the person, when you leak personal information about a competitive raid guild on the server you were a GM for a couple days ago. I would wonder when someone came to you with a way for you to see private information that you shouldnt have the access to.. what made you agree to this? Its like seeing a ATM spew out cash and you take the cash and run while being a police officer on duty.

You sir are the biggest two faced peice of garbage on this server. The toon you made in EC should of been of a homosexual Barbarian.

[Harrison]

Normal people who don't give a fuck about bullshit guild drama on a 12 year old game.

Crazy, OCD, Asperger's afflicted idiot constantly spouting the same line verbatim for 3 days on the other.

It disgusts me to agree with this useless old fuck.

[Diggles]

Uthgaard it shows the quality of the person, when you leak personal information about a competitive raid guild on the server you were a GM for a couple days ago. I would wonder when someone came to you with a way for you to see private information that you shouldnt have the access to.. what made you agree to this? Its like seeing a ATM spew out cash and you take the cash and run while being a police officer on duty.

You sir are the biggest two faced peice of garbage on this server. The toon you made in EC should of been of a homosexual Barbarian.

idiot monk is fuckin' mad

[Flavor]

idiot monk is fuckin' mad

Hey, don't call him mad... why punish him for something he can't control?

[wrxBRAH]

Uthgaard it shows the quality of the person, when you leak personal information about a competitive raid guild on the server you were a GM for a couple days ago. I would wonder when someone came to you with a way for you to see private information that you shouldnt have the access to.. what made you agree to this? Its like seeing a ATM spew out cash and you take the cash and run while being a police officer on duty.

You sir are the biggest two faced peice of garbage on this server. The toon you made in EC should of been of a homosexual Barbarian.

and I thought I made horrible analogies.

[purist]

butthurt, emotional wall of text any and every time Uthgaard's name is mentioned

but I'm not repetitive and don't give a fuck about a 12 year old game I swear.

[Uthgaard]

You wanted more evidence, here's another chunk that's been ignored, while forum trolls crying about getting nixed for spamming threads get responded to instantaneously:

This is Xzerion developing.
7934410 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 21:59:31 Command #grid add 286 3 2 1
7934411 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 21:59:38 Command #wp add 286 10 1 1
7934412 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 21:59:44 Command #wp add 286 10 2 1
7934413 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 21:59:48 Command #wp add 286 10 3 1
7934414 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 21:59:53 Command #wp add 286 10 4 1
7934415 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 22:00:01 Command #gassign 286 1
7934416 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 22:00:19 Command #npcstats 1
7934417 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 22:01:23 Command #repop 1
7934418 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 22:01:35 Command #wpinfo 1
7934419 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_scalebone004 2010-06-30 22:09:14 Command #npcstats 1
7934420 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_scalebone004 2010-06-30 22:11:22 Command #zone hateplane 1
7934421 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:12:36 Command #grid max 1
7934422 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:12:46 Command #grid add 113 3 2 1
7934423 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:12:55 Command #wp add 113 10 1 1
7934424 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:00 Command #wp add 113 10 2 1
7934425 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:05 Command #wp add 113 10 3 1
7934426 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:13 Command #wp add 113 0 4 1
7934427 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:22 Command #wp add 113 7 5 1
7934428 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:36 Command #gassign 113 1
7934429 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:41 Command #npcstats 1
7934430 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:17:38 Command #repop 1
7934431 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee005 2010-06-30 22:17:45 Command #wpinfo 1
7934432 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee005 2010-06-30 22:17:47 Command #wpinfo 1
7934433 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee005 2010-06-30 22:17:49 Command #wpinfo 1
7934434 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee005 2010-06-30 22:24:48 Command #zone fieldofbone 1
7934644 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:04 Command #wpinfo 1
7934645 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:11 Command #grid max 1
7934646 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:19 Command #grid add 287 3 2 1
7934647 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:26 Command #wp add 287 0 1 1
7934648 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:31 Command #wp add 287 0 2 1
7934649 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:34 Command #wp add 287 0 3 1
7934650 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:39 Command #wp add 287 0 4 1
7934651 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:48 Command #gassign 287 1
7934652 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:42:07 Command #repop 1
7934653 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup018 2010-07-01 08:42:29 Command #wpinfo 1
7934654 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup033 2010-07-01 08:46:45 Command #grid max 1
7934655 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2010-07-01 08:46:48 Command #wpinfo 1
7934656 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2010-07-01 08:46:56 Command #repop force 1
7934657 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:01 Command #wpinfo 1
7934658 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:07 Command #wpinfo 1
7934659 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:08 Command #wpinfo 1
7934660 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:23 Command #grid add 288 3 2 1
7934661 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:31 Command #wp add 288 10 1 1
7934662 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:39 Command #wp add 288 10 2 1
7934663 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:46 Command #wp add 288 10 3 1
7934664 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:55 Command #wp add 288 10 4 1

This is not.
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:30:35 Command #zone airplane 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:33:40 Command #heal 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Xzerionn 2011-02-02 21:33:43 Command #heal 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Xzerionn 2011-02-02 21:33:52 Command #flymode 1 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bzzazzt001 2011-02-02 21:34:19 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn #Bazzzazzt001 2011-02-02 21:34:28 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn #Bazzzazzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:31 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bizazzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:33 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bizazzt001 2011-02-02 21:34:35 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bzzazzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:38 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn ###Bazzzazzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:41 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bzzzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:43 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bazzt_Zzzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:46 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Sirran_the_Lunatic000 2011-02-02 21:34:49 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bzzazzt002 2011-02-02 21:34:53 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn ##Bazzzazzt002 2011-02-02 21:34:55 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn ##Bazzzazzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:58 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn ##Bazzzazzt001 2011-02-02 21:35:00 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:35:16 Command #damage 12 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:36:14 Command #repop 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:36:24 Command #damage 1 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:36:33 Command #repop 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:36:42 Command #search midnight mallet 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:36:46 Command #si 10081 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Xzerionn 2011-02-02 21:39:27 Command #findspell gmroot 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:39:39 Command #freeze 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:40:38 Command #flymode 1 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:40:40 Command #flymode 0 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:40:42 Command #gm off 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:41:04 Command #repop 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:41:06 Command #flymode 1 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:41:27 Command #flymode 0 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:42:29 Command #repop 1

When did midnight mallets come into use? When did Eye get killed first? Eye wasn't content under development in Feb.

[Diggles]

Damn, Uth gets stripped and more evidence comes out

[Eternal-Elf]

You wanted more evidence, here's another chunk that's been ignored, while forum trolls crying about getting nixed for spamming threads get responded to instantaneously:

This is Xzerion developing.
7934410 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 21:59:31 Command #grid add 286 3 2 1
7934411 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 21:59:38 Command #wp add 286 10 1 1
7934412 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 21:59:44 Command #wp add 286 10 2 1
7934413 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 21:59:48 Command #wp add 286 10 3 1
7934414 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 21:59:53 Command #wp add 286 10 4 1
7934415 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 22:00:01 Command #gassign 286 1
7934416 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 22:00:19 Command #npcstats 1
7934417 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 22:01:23 Command #repop 1
7934418 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_skeleton000 2010-06-30 22:01:35 Command #wpinfo 1
7934419 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_scalebone004 2010-06-30 22:09:14 Command #npcstats 1
7934420 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn greater_scalebone004 2010-06-30 22:11:22 Command #zone hateplane 1
7934421 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:12:36 Command #grid max 1
7934422 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:12:46 Command #grid add 113 3 2 1
7934423 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:12:55 Command #wp add 113 10 1 1
7934424 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:00 Command #wp add 113 10 2 1
7934425 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:05 Command #wp add 113 10 3 1
7934426 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:13 Command #wp add 113 0 4 1
7934427 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:22 Command #wp add 113 7 5 1
7934428 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:36 Command #gassign 113 1
7934429 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:13:41 Command #npcstats 1
7934430 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee008 2010-06-30 22:17:38 Command #repop 1
7934431 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee005 2010-06-30 22:17:45 Command #wpinfo 1
7934432 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee005 2010-06-30 22:17:47 Command #wpinfo 1
7934433 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee005 2010-06-30 22:17:49 Command #wpinfo 1
7934434 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scorn_banshee005 2010-06-30 22:24:48 Command #zone fieldofbone 1
7934644 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:04 Command #wpinfo 1
7934645 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:11 Command #grid max 1
7934646 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:19 Command #grid add 287 3 2 1
7934647 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:26 Command #wp add 287 0 1 1
7934648 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:31 Command #wp add 287 0 2 1
7934649 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:34 Command #wp add 287 0 3 1
7934650 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:39 Command #wp add 287 0 4 1
7934651 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:41:48 Command #gassign 287 1
7934652 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup026 2010-07-01 08:42:07 Command #repop 1
7934653 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup018 2010-07-01 08:42:29 Command #wpinfo 1
7934654 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_scaled_wolf_pup033 2010-07-01 08:46:45 Command #grid max 1
7934655 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2010-07-01 08:46:48 Command #wpinfo 1
7934656 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2010-07-01 08:46:56 Command #repop force 1
7934657 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:01 Command #wpinfo 1
7934658 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:07 Command #wpinfo 1
7934659 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:08 Command #wpinfo 1
7934660 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:23 Command #grid add 288 3 2 1
7934661 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:31 Command #wp add 288 10 1 1
7934662 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:39 Command #wp add 288 10 2 1
7934663 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:46 Command #wp add 288 10 3 1
7934664 Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn a_decaying_skeleton021 2010-07-01 08:47:55 Command #wp add 288 10 4 1

This is not.
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:30:35 Command #zone airplane 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:33:40 Command #heal 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Xzerionn 2011-02-02 21:33:43 Command #heal 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Xzerionn 2011-02-02 21:33:52 Command #flymode 1 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bzzazzt001 2011-02-02 21:34:19 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn #Bazzzazzt001 2011-02-02 21:34:28 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn #Bazzzazzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:31 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bizazzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:33 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bizazzt001 2011-02-02 21:34:35 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bzzazzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:38 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn ###Bazzzazzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:41 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bzzzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:43 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bazzt_Zzzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:46 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Sirran_the_Lunatic000 2011-02-02 21:34:49 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Bzzazzt002 2011-02-02 21:34:53 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn ##Bazzzazzt002 2011-02-02 21:34:55 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn ##Bazzzazzt000 2011-02-02 21:34:58 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn ##Bazzzazzt001 2011-02-02 21:35:00 Command #kill 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:35:16 Command #damage 12 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:36:14 Command #repop 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:36:24 Command #damage 1 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:36:33 Command #repop 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:36:42 Command #search midnight mallet 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:36:46 Command #si 10081 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Xzerionn 2011-02-02 21:39:27 Command #findspell gmroot 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:39:39 Command #freeze 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:40:38 Command #flymode 1 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:40:40 Command #flymode 0 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:40:42 Command #gm off 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:41:04 Command #repop 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:41:06 Command #flymode 1 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn None 2011-02-02 21:41:27 Command #flymode 0 1
Xzerion19 454 250 Xzerionn Eye_of_Veeshan000 2011-02-02 21:42:29 Command #repop 1

When did midnight mallets come into use? When did Eye get killed first? Eye wasn't content under development in Feb.

Whoa

[Friday]

Hey wheres my VIP / Contributor title

[Skope]

Whoa

both #5 and #6 were bugged as hell when sky started. i recall us being the first to petition both SL's loot table (which btw is still bugged), the respawn on SL being tied to guardian (broken for almost a year) and that the instaspawn trash mobs were supposed to be tied to vanqs, which they weren't.

the notion that an exact copy of a VP dev server is available to any guild willing to undertake that project is absolutely dreaming

[Friday]

All I see from that text is a dev testing bee cycle / eov and checking tables / damage.

Nothing insidious lol.

[JayDee]

and Xzerion + his cohorts are still allowed to play on p99?

lol

[Skope]

All I see from that text is a dev testing bee cycle / eov and checking tables / damage.

Nothing insidious lol.

midnight mallets have absolutely nothing to do with bees or posky until way later. that's an attempt at seeing just how well they'd work aggro-wise on that isle.

[Friday]

or if they'd get straight out resisted

or...

or...

Drawing conclusions from snippets of information (which is OBV~ biased) amounts to getting your news from FOX.

[Estrang]

shut your faggot face faggot

[Ring]

or if they'd get straight out resisted

or...

or...

Drawing conclusions from snippets of information (which is OBV~ biased) amounts to getting your news from FOX.

Above text is from former Taken / TR member Friday. Suspended SEQ user.

[Skope]

or if they'd get straight out resisted

or...

or...

Drawing conclusions from snippets of information (which is OBV~ biased) amounts to getting your news from FOX.

nope! he was just curious even though it's a spell that casts a disease counter in which each counter produces a set amount of aggro, but he felt the need to spawn and use the item (which coincidentally anyone can use) instead of knowing that the spell is the same from the item or the spell and thus transfers the same amount of hate as chaincasting the spell 5x would.

so it's not only useless in doing so (because it's the same aggro everywhere for each time its cast) but also pretty fucking stupid

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

If Ring is a getsome, there is the new TR leader. Quit saying former Taken member he like all of them jumped ship for loot.

[Twopair]

If Ring is a getsome, there is the new TR leader. Quit saying former Taken member he like all of them jumped ship for loot.

Taken is a respectable guild, deserve to be at the top.

[Smyd]

Jesus..... too many politics for a fucking game.
When will people stop taking shit so seriously omg.

Kiss you all.

[Tulvinous]

All posts that are the premise of the "server's downfall" should be removed. This dumb BS is only stirring the pot. Figure out something else to bitch about that is more constructive.

Oh...and yes all cheaters should be banned period. Take some common sense and ownership for screwing up and not turning off and switching out clients/3rd party programs.

[Kevlar]

Only question I have, is Uthgaard like 5' tall and 130lbs in real life?

Dude has the worst case of little man syndrome I have ever seen.

[Uthgaard]

Lol.

[Tamiah2011]

Only question I have, is Uthgaard like 5' tall and 130lbs in real life?

Dude has the worst case of little man syndrome I have ever seen.

I was thinking he was more likw 210 and 5'0'", much time he spends sitting on his ass

[Kruel]

I was thinking he was more likw 210 and 5'0'", much time he spends sitting on his ass

Watch it... cant make fun of Uthgaard.. unless you dont have a job or anything in your RL he can go after.

[Dirt McGirt]

days later, dude's still posting "lol" to let you know he's reading

how's quitting going dude? You any busier irl? meet anyone?

[Ennoia]

WIPE IT CLEAN LONG LIVE MAGRISTRATE UTHGAARD

[Motec]

Watch it... cant make fun of Uthgaard.. unless you dont have a job or anything in your RL he can go after.

No, just dont let other people know about your job or your RL so they can trade a favor to uthgaard for the info.

I know, because im motec bro.

[Slathar]

AN ATTACK ON MAGISTRATE UTHGAARD IS AN ATTACK ON COUNT SLATHAR

WIPE IT CLEAN. REBUKE IT IN THE NAME OF CHRIST.

[Ennoia]

AN ATTACK ON MAGISTRATE UTHGAARD IS AN ATTACK ON COUNT SLATHAR

WIPE IT CLEAN. REBUKE IT IN THE NAME OF CHRIST.

[Twopair]

Taken is a respectable guild, deserve to be at the top.

But they need to stop talking about me in TS..
:rolleyes:

[PureLo]

77.09[23:40] <Uthgaard> you don't listen to me when it matters. you bend to pressure from guilds and forum idiots. you canned me with less evidence. i've given this server more than anyone else has, and it's been over a year, and still get treated like i'm some sort of an outsider. rogean tries to make every twat that pays him attention a gm, and is so far out of touch he didn't even realize that tmo was da until i told him. you're out of touch as well, i'm one of your biggest resources, but you never contact me. go ahead and make your generalizations that i'm rude and disrespectful. the half the staff that isn't trying to use the server for its own benefit will give you a different story.

Form your own conclusions on who Amelinda actually is yet again :)

[Tamiah2011]

Watch it... cant make fun of Uthgaard.. unless you dont have a job or anything in your RL he can go after.

Uthgaard needs to really get RL job and get his fat butt off the puter.

[Zenlina]

TMO wasnt DA btw uth, you got that part wrong. I see where you assumed it was though. Its all good.

[Uthgaard]

http://i54.tinypic.com/4r400j.jpg

LOL. Here, now you can all finally put a face to the persona. This was from a bbq last month. As you can see, I'm clearly short, fat and balding.

[Skope]

http://i54.tinypic.com/4r400j.jpg

LOL. Here, now you can all finally put a face to the persona. This was from a bbq last month. As you can see, I'm clearly short, fat and balding.

holy shit, it's travis from reno 911.

http://www.comedycentral.com/press/images/reno911/Season6_Junior_0084_PRESS.jpg

[john_savage1982]

wow this fight has continued this long. All of you...see a therapist ASAP.

[Tamiah2011]

http://i54.tinypic.com/4r400j.jpg

LOL. Here, now you can all finally put a face to the persona. This was from a bbq last month. As you can see, I'm clearly short, fat and balding.

well short,fat and nerdy where was I wrong? look like a campus cop.

[Slathar]

well short,fat and nerdy where was I wrong? look like a campus cop.

let me translate this for everyone: hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[xshayla701]

http://i54.tinypic.com/4r400j.jpg

LOL. Here, now you can all finally put a face to the persona. This was from a bbq last month. As you can see, I'm clearly short, fat and balding.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqm189r1971qexs0p.gif

[Autotune]

http://i54.tinypic.com/4r400j.jpg

LOL. Here, now you can all finally put a face to the persona. This was from a bbq last month. As you can see, I'm clearly short, fat and balding.

looks like he is into soccer or something with lots of running involved.

also doesn't look overweight or short.

aka. Normal.


Where Tamiah, no matter what you look like, you're still the biggest retard on p99.

far above Visage, Harrison, (insert other retards)

[mimixownzall]

In Japan, I'm tall.

[Tamiah2011]

looks like he is into soccer or something with lots of running involved.

also doesn't look overweight or short.

aka. Normal.


Where Tamiah, no matter what you look like, you're still the biggest retard on p99.

far above Visage, Harrison, (insert other retards)



If you say so...God I hate fat and ugly

[YendorLootmonkey]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqm189r1971qexs0p.gif

^^ Tamiah???

[Diggles]

aye

[Diggles]

charms = bigger faggot

seriously, get the fuck out of here with your shit fatty.

[Harrison]

looks like he is into soccer or something with lots of running involved.

also doesn't look overweight or short.

aka. Normal.


Where Tamiah, no matter what you look like, you're still the biggest retard on p99.

far above Visage, Harrison, (insert other retards)

I'm not sure whether you're insulting tamiah, or complimenting me...

I'll take both.

[visage]

http://i54.tinypic.com/4r400j.jpg

LOL. Here, now you can all finally put a face to the persona. This was from a bbq last month. As you can see, I'm clearly short, fat and balding.

Oh Uthgaard....... You sill.

[Pico]

pork it

[visage]

Hey you all shocked?

[SyanideGas]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqm189r1971qexs0p.gif

I lol'd my ass off looking at that gif.

[CooloToon]

I lol'd my ass off looking at that gif.

Lol SyanideGas nice pic lolol

[trix]

You know what I think? I think none of us are in charge of shit.

I think this server is great, and those in charge are doing a great job.

Beyond that, the conversation linked in the OP, and the staff drama in general, aren't really any of our fucking business.

I'm going to go play. I recommend others to stop acting like old gossipy ladies and do the same.

Have a nice day.

[JayDee]

keep brown nosing while getting shit on