What was wrong with K&B?

[Rust1d?]

Had great incentive to pvp and it seemed that not too much was broken. Great dev support and allowed boxing. What went wrong?

[Misto]

Short answer: no1 wanted to level another toon with red99 around the corner.

Long answer: durp

[Buhbuh]

This thread, for starters.

[SearyxTZ]

People don't want to play on a custom server.

This should be like the first bullet point established before one line of code is even written, but it seems to baffle lots of people anyway.


WHY ISN'T THE SMALL AUDIENCE OF PLAYERS WHO SEARCHED FOR CLASSIC EMULATED EVERQUEST INTERESTED IN MY CUSTOM HARDCORE EZEXP BOX?

It doesn't matter if it's well done. There has to be demand for what you've created.

[fiegi]

Custom is shit, period.

[Deattas]

The server was doing pretty OK until VZTZ and Red69. These are what players wanted and headed for en masse, then subsequently abandoned in the same fashion.

I'm not sure what will be totally different this time around besides stricter policing of cheaters (I admit this is a big deal) and much, much slower leveling. I personally enjoyed the idea of "points" for PvPing, getting rewards, and feeling incentivized to do something besides traintraintraintrain. I think there are a lot of people that know classic EQ to a tee and have been playing it for several years (some for close to a decade), the idea of losing some of that edge is a turn off for them.

Also smashed your faces.

[Vile]

A custom server can be good (obviously P99 Red will trump anything...), they're just never done right imo.

[Doors]

Custom content servers suck imo.

[Amuk]

I think the most fun I had on KAB was training Shinaba on my naked cleric in BOT, or training whatever guild that was in hate on my pal.

Infact, with a corpse summoner that server - if anyone ever took it seriously, would have been way more lethal train wars.

I had fun on it for awhile, but my pal hitting for 90's with a 30 dmg weapon, epics out, my stuns landing always on a 200+ mr person, earth elemental roots landed 100% I mean I could literally make a novel of shitty stuff but it's pointless.

If you're playing to piss around that server is aight.

[Crenshinabon]

I'm not sure what will be totally different this time around besides stricter policing of cheaters (I admit this is a big deal) and much, much slower leveling. I personally enjoyed the idea of "points" for PvPing, getting rewards, and feeling incentivized to do something besides traintraintraintrain. I think there are a lot of people that know classic EQ to a tee and have been playing it for several years (some for close to a decade), the idea of losing some of that edge is a turn off for them.
Also smashed your faces.

I am pretty sure the longevitiy and playerbase of the server is what a lot of people are psyched about. There has not been a classic pvp server with classic xp like... ever. The fact that everybody who knows EQ pvp is probably going to try this server is also huge deal. None of that "I don't feel like leveling a character while I wait for a better server" This is going to be it. Real classic EQ pvp is going to happen with Red99 or never. Simple as that.

I am looking forward to the epic feeling of bad ass game accomplishment to come with leveling on Red99 along with "hopefully" lots of other people. There will be no max lvl in 2 days, camp every item in the game in the next week, get bored and quit with a 20 person population.

[georgie]

Short answer: no1 wanted to level another toon with red99 around the corner.

Long answer: durp

really cuz there was like 3 more boxes, saw like 35-70 max pop on all servers. whether or not it was boxing contradicts what you just posted

[solid]

K&B was fine for a custom pvp server, it just suffered from the same thing that a lot of custom pvp servers suffer from: GMs with god complexes.

I was 1st(mage) and 2nd(shaman) on the leaderboard, running a pvp stream on justin.tv, making fraps to help promote the server, and naturally picking up mad QQ from the server along the way. However, as soon as image banned (and then almost immediately revoked the ban) for nuking people in a zoneline fight after getting feared back there by the very same people, I knew it was as good as time as any to bolt on the server. Once a GM with a god complex shows his hand that it's in his head to ban you- you will be banned, just a matter of time.

Not gonna call out particular GMs from vztz, but I've had to deal with their god complex faggotry before too- and in the long run it's not worth it. Hopefully r99 GMs aren't pressured into action solely by the whims and QQ of their playerbase.

[juicedsixfo]

K&B owned. But you can't play with out a population unfortunately.

[Xareth]

For a custom server to work it needs to have at least as much content as EQ.

That being said, until there is enough content to sustain a hardcore playerbase: moot point on all the other variables.

[Deattas]

I don't think anyone besides 2FT ever cleared everything. Last boss in BoT dropped the best loot eva.

[Sniperfire]

Custom is shit, period.
the dedication to me is unreal that you got a generator just to respond to this post pal

[fiegi]

Ehehehehe

[Rust1d?]

If people like classic and hate custom, why do so many people cry about slow exp, no boxing, no leaderboards etc?people are going to get a reality check when it takes 6 months to get to 50.

[SearyxTZ]

what does boxing have to do with custom?


Leaderboards were on some live servers and it isn't a "custom" feature in the same vein as HAY WE QUADRUPLED XP CHANGED LOOT AROUND AND ZONES R CRAZY NOW

People will bitch about slow exp - correct. But they will keep playing anyway (and for much longer than they would if it was 99x exp).

[Amuk]

Retards seem to think boxing wasn't on live for some reason, it's beyond me. I boxed my war up to 60 in the hole on Live with my sham.

My guess is because p99 is one box only and these kids didn't play live? I'm not really sure.