Oops, TMO's/Taken mistake.

[Rais]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14667

Q: What about raid mobs that are spawned by a combination of other mobs?
A: In the case of a raid mob that is spawned by clearing an area (Example: Azarack Island in Plane of Sky), the guild that did the clearing has the same consideration as above; That is, 20 Minutes to engage and 1 attempt. In the case of multiple guilds contributing significantly to the spawn of the mob, the mob is first to engage by any of those guilds.

[Labyrrinth]

True, but once you log so that you don't wipe it's null and void :)

[Rais]

My bad. I guess it would be classified under this one


Q: What rules pertain to raid mobs that are triggered spawns?
A: If a raid mob is triggered to spawn by killing a single mob before it (Example: Statue -> Idol -> Avatar of War), the guild that spawned the mob has 20 minutes to engage it. The mob is open to any other guild on a first to engage basis once the first guild has either wiped or not engaged within the time limit.

Moral of story? TR has first shot at it within 20 mins. So instantly attacking a mob when it spawns before the other guild can pull it is ok? Don't think so. Sorry my dear.

Can't spin this one.

[Ektar]

True, but once you log so that you don't wipe it's null and void :)

Your argument was strong, my logic was weak. I hate you!

[Maze513]

TR petitions to get any kind of loot... film at 11

[Rais]

Holy fuck with the tags. I couldn't even get my own on my own thread.

[Kassel]

moar background infos please

[Lazortag]

What's this thread about?

[Labyrrinth]

LOL tags are awesome!! I feel the <3

[Alarti0001]

My bad. I guess it would be classified under this one




Moral of story? TR has first shot at it within 20 mins. So instantly attacking a mob when it spawns before the other guild can pull it is ok? Don't think so. Sorry my dear.

Can't spin this one.

Not on separate isles....u lose

[Alarti0001]

Holy fuck with the tags. I couldn't even get my own on my own thread.

Bisch tired of VD again trying to lick balls to app TR?

[bluejam]

http://cheezburger.com/View/5112077312

[bluejam]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/20/5ebf4e73-5443-4ca0-9f78-e5c5f2ea4757.jpg

[Rais]

Noble Djorn spawns Overseer of Air. It's how it works. That is a spawn Progression like Avatar of War cycle. No difference where the mob spawns. To try and deflect this into thinking I'm some nut sucker makes me laugh.


I lick no one balls. I jump on anyone who break server rules and flaunt their skill with 60+ people per mob,while being douche bags to the rest of the server.

You will never see me in TR, and I won't ever be in TMO. I "lived" the life of a hard core raider. Never again.



[Thu Aug 04 00:36:43 2011] Perun tells you, 'BLOW ME CAPTAIN FANTASTIC'

TR won't take me.

ps. Seems I am right.

[Tiggles]

Hey guys I was out watching Conan with my friends. Whats going on in this thread?

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Bisch, since you seem to be the investigative journalist who wasn't even there ask this question for me. Is TR pro-poopsock now?

[Tiggles]

OK I read the tags and now I'm caught up

India apparently you are terrible and TMO can't break fear.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Jesus H. Christ... I spend all week in another thread trying to talk TR out of being douchebags for sniping shit from other guilds, and now TMO/Taken are pulling the same shit?

You knew you didn't spawn OoA, why'd you snipe it? Someone needs to draw the line and be the better person.

It's like all of you want the raid scene to be as miserable as fuck. Quit defecating an endless cycle of shit into each others' mouths.

[Moonface]

My bad. I guess it would be classified under this one




Moral of story? TR has first shot at it within 20 mins. So instantly attacking a mob when it spawns before the other guild can pull it is ok? Don't think so. Sorry my dear.

Can't spin this one.

why so fucking cry?

[Rais]

Bisch, since you seem to be the investigative journalist who wasn't even there ask this question for me. Is TR pro-poopsock now?

I think they are Pro killing. They have lower numbers than TMO, and the only way they can beat a mass of people is to beat them to the punch. Just like you and Taken were sitting at Overseerer of Air ready to tag him as soon as he spawned.

Personally TMO and Taken should be raid suspended for 2 weeks. Blatant disregard to server rules (This, and Winterfresh training TR on Trak kill) and Taken Exploiting naggy(with level 52+ casting on him), and now this breaking server rules.

The simple fact that the exploration of Naggy by Taken, nor the indent with Winterfresh training with Fraps on a raid hasn't been dished out is puzzling.

That I find funny, because server rules were stated by TR before Noble spawned/killed.

Here in first picture is TR stating server rules on mob spawns like this.

The second picture is TMO telling you all to get ready to tag since Noble is about to die.

So no only did you all know the rules, disregard them, and still decided fuck the server rules. We're going to do this how we want.

If people can't see the issue that's going on that TMO, TR, and now Taken are apart of fighting over mobs/pulling/leapfrogging, and how bad it is with the server. I just don't understand.

[Tiggles]

Jesus H. Christ... I spend all week in another thread trying to talk TR out of being douchebags for sniping shit from other guilds, and now TMO/Taken are pulling the same shit?

You knew you didn't spawn OoA, why'd you snipe it? Someone needs to draw the line and be the better person.

It's like all of you want the raid scene to be as miserable as fuck. Quit defecating an endless cycle of shit into each others' mouths.


Ok Yendor this is what happened*

Guild A Spawns triggered mob but is about to wipe so they log out.
Guild B Seeing that guild A is logging out/wiping moves in to kill mob.
Guild B Kills mob because technically guild A wiped.

Just because they spawned the mob doesnt mean they get infinite attempts on it unmolested. They had time to engage and they had their shot.




*I don't know what really happened.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

You missed the start of it all in Sky Yendor and what led to this post. Speaking on something you only heard about and weren't there for. Make up your mind on whether it is their behavior you want to stop or their sniping mobs from other guilds.

[Tiggles]

I think they are Pro killing. They have lower numbers than TMO, and the only way they can beat a mass of people is to beat them to the punch. Just like you and Taken were sitting at Overseerer of Air ready to tag him as soon as he spawned.

Personally TMO and Taken should be raid suspended for 2 weeks. Blatant disregard to server rules (This, and Winterfresh training TR on Trak kill) and Taken Exploiting naggy(with level 52+ casting on him), and now this breaking server rules.

The simple fact that the exploration of Naggy by Taken, nor the indent with Winterfresh training with Fraps on a raid hasn't been dished out is puzzling.

That I find funny, because server rules were stated by TR before Noble spawned/killed.

Here in first picture is TR stating server rules on mob spawns like this.

The second picture is TMO telling you all to get ready to tag since Noble is about to die.

So no only did you all know the rules, disregard them, and still decided fuck the server rules. We're going to do this how we want.

If people can't see the issue that's going on that TMO, TR, and now Taken are apart of fighting over mobs/pulling/leapfrogging, and how bad it is with the server. I just don't understand.


Why do you crop your pictures like that? Don't want someone to see your blatant MQ usage? Its common knowledge you talk about it in VD vent all the time.

[Rais]

exploration is suspose to be exploitation.

Also don't get me started Shaere. The simple fact you have the major players who were using Showeq in Trans are now officers in your guild. Shows how much integrity you have.

[God-King Abacab]

No probs brews I got this covered

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/Postorofpictures/EQ000076.jpg

[Rais]

Why do you crop your pictures like that? Don't want someone to see your blatant MQ usage? Its common knowledge you talk about it in VD vent all the time.

So you can't spin shit, so you throw it on the wall hoping it sticks? I'm not Taken, nor like TMO who won't say anything in guildchat and only in vent due to a chance of having a gm listen in.

The tin foil hats in your guild are large and in charge.

[Rais]

Guild A Spawns triggered mob but is about to wipe so they log out.
Guild B Seeing that guild A is logging out/wiping moves in to kill mob.
Guild B Kills mob because technically guild A wiped.

Guild A(TR) spawns triggered mob.
Guild C(TMO) tells Guild B(Taken) to attack the Overseerer. Breaking Server Rules, and making OoA summon Guild A's pullers,while trying to get the kill.
Guild A camps off mob summoning them to other Island.
Guild C decides to get kill.

This is how it happened.

God I want school to start. I'm so bored.

[Daltheb]

Ok Yendor this is what happened*

Guild A Spawns triggered mob but is about to wipe so they log out.
Guild B Seeing that guild A is logging out/wiping moves in to kill mob.
Guild B Kills mob because technically guild A wiped.

Just because they spawned the mob doesnt mean they get infinite attempts on it unmolested. They had time to engage and they had their shot.




*I don't know what really happened.
Just for the vision impaired. At least you're being honest brew. Should add that disclaimer to all your posts though just to keep it real.

[Tibador]

Seriouslly you WE DID NOT exploit nagafen we found out it was not banishing from the 5 people we had there above 52 and one of them was me we had already bound ready for the banish so we could run back in and help we even said in TS for the whole guild to hear so get your spies handy that why have we not been banished yet so we made sure it was not working by having one of the necro's go in and cast directly on Naggy he did not get banished by that time he was dead and we reported the issue so cry me a river.

[Glitterati]

Well the 2 guilds that were there first had a very nice compromise in place about who would get which mob when they spawned, clearly playin nice with each other and going to different islands, TMO killed the Eye again tonight, big gratz on that kill guys. But then TR came up and sat the whole raid on Djorns spawn point and left 2 guilds who had worked together and wanted to play nice with each other, well, it left them rather upset to say the least. Which leads us to this lovely little thread. I'd like to gratz Zeelot and his TMO crew on their sky kills and quest completions, Glitterati owes you all beers.

[Ektar]

I decided to give asia to my pal bob and europe to my pal billy, but when I went to set my flags in their soil they were like no wtf mate?

weird.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Bisch you're blind and a fool. You want the server to change have them change what they are doing to create these situations. You think you hear from Sodapop or whomever what the situation is and you come here preaching? Instead of creating situations where conflict and petitions and flame come from how about play with a little bit of common sense and courtesy. And Bisch don't get you started or what? You going to bail on another guild and then try coming back to bail again? Or is just the latest propaganda ploy, Jabroni asked to train, your initiation is this? Laugh. Don't get you started, chuckle. I'm shaking in my boots. We exploited Naggy Vox? The only time you guys hear about these bugs is when I petition, the only reason you types are mad is because I brought it to light and now the true exploiters can't continue to use it. Try some new material, the same stuff is tired. We all are cheaters and exploiters if we get near a raid mob TR wants. Check. Transcendence was full of cheaters, and now Taken is hack city! Did you forget the part where Virt went to IB? Or YOU left also?

Just come clean about what it is you are doing, and have the balls to not hide behind the 'what is right' stance. You're kissing ass, if you really wanted change you would have been villifying their behavior for months here. But let anyone mess with TR and here you come! They can exploit things forever and a day, but let someone else come across the bug, and OMG light it up! The fact is none of you really want change because until I spoke out (and a bit more then I wanted to originally) you all just stuck to the shadows and didn't have the guts to stand up for it. By going along with all the petty little shit for how many months now you have helped perpetuate what exists now. You pick and choose what 'rule' you want to stand up for and when, yet not once have any of you sheep stood up for raid nice play nice. Or being courteous and respectful, don't be a douchebag and on and on.

What kind of server do you want, a server where you can go raid a plane, and work out something with any other guilds and share mobs or a server where everyone goes to a place other guilds are at and then camps out 40 some people under a spawn point for hours to days.

[God-King Abacab]

is suspose to be exploitation.

Also don't get me started Shaere. The simple fact you have the major players who were using Showeq in Trans are now officers in your guild. Shows how much integrity you have.

When I was in Trans, we didn't use showEQ but everyone else still cried because big Abacab pickpocked raid targets of all the gems and words before the opposing guild could drop it.

When the server cried that Abacab was ruining friendliness I formed Boyz N'Tha Hood which was a crew of about 8 people composed of rogues, mages, and druids and we ported up to hate and out-DPS'd every mob an opposing guild pulled.

Did I give a fuck? No. Did my guild give a fuck? No.

We did that because every other guild on the server we're too busy pplaying rules lawyer and we just came to the conclusion that if we really wanted something we took it.

By the end of the whole ordeal I had bags full of blue diamonds and sapphires, and illegally collected several pieces of planar by fucking over other guilds, my guild and I were so fucking rich that we needed to take it to the new level...


So we trained DA and stole tranix and ran him to the zone line to train out everyone so we could pick him off... Killed 45 DA members in the process. We then decided to ninjaloot Nagafen to which I took his entire loot table right in front of Rogean... Did Boyz give a fuck? No.

We were the baddest fucking guild on the block and we took no shit

[Glitterati]

And seriously, the first time we've gotten our hands on Nagafen in over a year and we were lead to believe by the top guild that it's banishing now so we think it's working as intended. The first time! In a Year! First time! Since the nerf! And now we're a bunch of dirty exploiters. Fuck you guys!

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

It is also a fact our guildchat is watched and monitored so to prevent other people from taking that information to cause us harm or give another guild an advantage we moderate it. The tin foil part would come into play if we thought people were watching our guildchat and they weren't. If they are, it isn't a theory, it is fact. The fact you know about it and seem upset could be attributed to you having nothing as a result. But yes, for the masses at large we avoid saying anything in guildchat because we don't trust the staff.

And I am still waiting for your 'Don't start with me'.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Yeah Glitter what is more likely, the fact he just didn't banish and we knew and exploited it to a tune of 1 naggy kill in a year or the people killing him every week in that year knew. There is another option but I'm sure it just started not banishing because I am sure we would've heard about it on the forums before now if he hadn't. Laugh

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Just workin my post count now, was Petros in that guild Abacab?

[TR Spokesman]

Psh, VD is just sticking up for us because we are "in talks" about a possible merger.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Ah, my apologies then TR_Spokesman. Preach on Bisch.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Just because they spawned the mob doesnt mean they get infinite attempts on it unmolested. They had time to engage and they had their shot.

You're right, they don't. They get 20 minutes, per the raid rules posted above. The same 20 minutes they would need to let you have if the roles were reversed, and you spawned OoA, and you would be here bitching about it if they sniped OoA on you after you killed Dojorn.

So again... when does it fucking end? How is this not blatantly pissing TR off so the next chance they get, they will continue to pull dick moves on you, and then the next thread begins...

You guys want it this way, through your own actions towards each other. No one truly wants change, or this shit would stop.

Start the timer when OoA spawns. Engage it at 20:01 if they wipe or it's not engaged by then. Pretty simple stuff for the rest of us, you know?

[Diggles]

retard thinks he gets post count in RnF

[Alarti0001]

Well the 2 guilds that were there first had a very nice compromise in place about who would get which mob when they spawned, clearly playin nice with each other and going to different islands, TMO killed the Eye again tonight, big gratz on that kill guys. But then TR came up and sat the whole raid on Djorns spawn point and left 2 guilds who had worked together and wanted to play nice with each other, well, it left them rather upset to say the least. Which leads us to this lovely little thread. I'd like to gratz Zeelot and his TMO crew on their sky kills and quest completions, Glitterati owes you all beers.

Ya we try to play nice, even offered eye loot to a taken player, since it was rotting.

Not to mention they put 15 on spawn and tried to play the poopsock game.... which Uth said was over.... yes we have screens

[Waedawen]

Lovin' this thread.

Anarchy raid rules plz.

[Rais]

Bisch you're blind and a fool. You want the server to change have them change what they are doing to create these situations. You think you hear from Sodapop or whomever what the situation is and you come here preaching? Instead of creating situations where conflict and petitions and flame come from how about play with a little bit of common sense and courtesy. And Bisch don't get you started or what? You going to bail on another guild and then try coming back to bail again? Or is just the latest propaganda ploy, Jabroni asked to train, your initiation is this? Laugh. Don't get you started, chuckle. I'm shaking in my boots. We exploited Naggy Vox? The only time you guys hear about these bugs is when I petition, the only reason you types are mad is because I brought it to light and now the true exploiters can't continue to use it. Try some new material, the same stuff is tired. We all are cheaters and exploiters if we get near a raid mob TR wants. Check. Transcendence was full of cheaters, and now Taken is hack city! Did you forget the part where Virt went to IB? Or YOU left also?

Just come clean about what it is you are doing, and have the balls to not hide behind the 'what is right' stance. You're kissing ass, if you really wanted change you would have been villifying their behavior for months here. But let anyone mess with TR and here you come! They can exploit things forever and a day, but let someone else come across the bug, and OMG light it up! The fact is none of you really want change because until I spoke out (and a bit more then I wanted to originally) you all just stuck to the shadows and didn't have the guts to stand up for it. By going along with all the petty little shit for how many months now you have helped perpetuate what exists now. You pick and choose what 'rule' you want to stand up for and when, yet not once have any of you sheep stood up for raid nice play nice. Or being courteous and respectful, don't be a douchebag and on and on.

What kind of server do you want, a server where you can go raid a plane, and work out something with any other guilds and share mobs or a server where everyone goes to a place other guilds are at and then camps out 40 some people under a spawn point for hours to days.
__________________


Why so angry at me? The fact I can point the finger and say YOUR guild did everything I said it did? You don't have a leg to stand on for staying with those who cheated, and now part of your guild leadership.

I'll break it down for you barnie style.



Are you talking about Trans or VD? I left Trans knowing what was going on in that guild. My friends from Trans decided to join TR. I decided to go the casual play type. If you're talking about VD. You have no idea what happen, why I had left, or why I came back. And trust me, it has no resemblance to "bailing" on them.

Or is just the latest propaganda ploy, Jabroni asked to train, your initiation is this? Laugh. Don't get you started, chuckle. I'm shaking in my boots. We exploited Naggy Vox? The only time you guys hear about these bugs is when I petition, the only reason you types are mad is because I brought it to light and now the true exploiters can't continue to use it.

What the fuck are you talking about? Who is Jabroni? What does he have anything to do with this?

Taken exploited Naggy by having lvl 53+ cast on him till he was dead. There are active screenshots that show this. On classic a lvl 53+player was banshied as soon as you were on their agro list. Being inside naggy/vox agro range=being on their list. No ways around that. So your excuse is " We were rushed by TR being dickheads trying to leapfrog us (I agree, pretty shitty move) so well use anything to win." Yea, good going on that one.Then you turn around and petition it. Hey pat on the back for you for finding this bug, and I hope if other guilds exploiting this before that kill are punished as well.

Transcendence was full of cheaters, and now Taken is hack city! Did you forget the part where Virt went to IB? Or YOU left also?

I reported every single person in Trans. I even reported Virt. Everyone who 2boxed or used ShowEq. So what if Virt went to IB,something happened between him and the staff for him to become a guide shortly after. I left Trans. Period. I was guildless for a month, and joined VD. What does this have to do with anything?

The fact is none of you really want change because until I spoke out (and a bit more then I wanted to originally) you all just stuck to the shadows and didn't have the guts to stand up for it. By going along with all the petty little shit for how many months now you have helped perpetuate what exists now. You pick and choose what 'rule' you want to stand up for and when, yet not once have any of you sheep stood up for raid nice play nice. Or being courteous and respectful, don't be a douchebag and on and on.

Are you kidding me? Go back though any of my posts saying I support how this server is being treated by the major guilds. I just point out the stupid shit that you all do, and what it does to the servers health. You want to thump your chest saying " ME WORK IT OUT. ME SMART, WE GET ALONG", but you're full of shit.

2weeks ago VD was in sky setting up for noble. You port in from clearing Hate or Fear. You didn't send one tell to ask if we will be pulling or anything. You clicked up to island 1.5 to pull noble from me. So don't try and pretend you're the savior of the server to work things out. You and Acerer are the only 2 pullers/raid leaders who never worked with me as I pulled any planes. DA(Durison) and TR(Perun/Kins) always worked with me.

What kind of server do you want, a server where you can go raid a plane, and work out something with any other guilds and share mobs or a server where everyone goes to a place other guilds are at and then camps out 40 some people under a spawn point for hours to days.

Just by your actions tonight shows what kind of server you want. Have you seen VD sit and wait for a spawn? Have you seen us leapfrog? Are we perfect? No we have our issues, but we haven't gone down to the level of other guilds on this server.

So before you make another 1000 word paragraph, rethink your thoughts and ask why you are upset. It's it because I told the truth, and calling people on it? Or are you upset I'm slaying super model pussy, even while I'm typing this?

You have nothing on me. You're guild has been shown to exploit, now engaging other peoples spawns and has SEQ users. Oh, I'm not in TR. So stop using your rage and use your brain.

[TR Spokesman]

Have you seen VD sit and wait for a spawn?


pretty sure i have seen them do this

[YendorLootmonkey]

I'm slaying super model pussy, even while I'm typing this?

It's true, he just sets his laptop on her ass and types out pwnage while he's banging it. I also suspect this is how he pulls planes, too.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Bisch pulling Fear for us this morning:

http://www.techdigest.tv/couple_in_bed_with_laptop.jpg

[Alarti0001]

2weeks ago VD was in sky setting up for noble. You port in from clearing Hate or Fear. You didn't send one tell to ask if we will be pulling or anything. You clicked up to island 1.5 to pull noble from me. So don't try and pretend you're the savior of the server to work things out.




Ooops we found the real problem with truegem here

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Not that simple Yendor. It ends when they quit acting like they do. It isn't our actions that caused them to do anything, they chose to do this from the start. It is fallacy to say anyone else is the cause of any of this. You don't want this nonsense, they can quit creating the situation. We planned sky around Noble Dojorn spawn time with the intent of pulling him when he spawned. TMO arrives on scene and tell us their intent, we work a compromise. To avoid sitting a raid on a spawn point like a 8 year old and saying 'MINE". TR ports up, sits 40 some people on Dojorns spawn then informs us all they're taking Dojorn OOA and Hand so there ya go. And sit there for 3 or 4 hours.

The 'rule' was made because guilds couldn't cooperate and ganked each other's KoS or PoS or whatever. So two guilds decide to work together in the spirit of fair play and common sense and not play the game like some 5th graders and you know, I suggested to Kinsawt perhaps we could take dojorn and they could take OOA and the answer was 'MINE'. So what you are telling me is you would rather have this leapfrogging sniping poopsocking state that exists rather then risk angering TR? Fuck TR. Everyone wants change except TR, what don't you get. They force people into situations by acting like dicks. If They REALLY wanted change they would have either not zoned up when they saw both us guilds there, or worked out a compromise where each guild got one of the efreeti, or a chance at them.

It baffles me you cannot see this, their actions and the actions of others created the situation that created the rules. The 'rules' that only serve to enable the same behavior.

[Alarti0001]

So before you make another 1000 word paragraph, rethink your thoughts and ask why you are upset. It's it because I told the truth, and calling people on it? Or are you upset I'm slaying super model pussy, even while I'm typing this?

You have nothing on me. You're guild has been shown to exploit, now engaging other peoples spawns and has SEQ users. Oh, I'm not in TR. So stop using your rage and use your brain.


You aren't slaying super model pussy. You are 5'5" irl and you get obsessed over girls irl, and then get pissed when they get married without consulting you... god I have to go dig up these screenshots now

[Alarti0001]

You aren't slaying super model pussy. You are 5'5" irl and you get obsessed over girls irl, and then get pissed when they get married without consulting you... god I have to go dig up these screenshots now

BTW IRL

[Rais]

If it count's I'm 5'5.7

[Alarti0001]

If it count's I'm 5'5.7

it doesnt count its like saying your are 14 and 1/4 yrs old

[YendorLootmonkey]

Not that simple Yendor...

I know the fact that they plop right down on Dojorn's spawn point and poopsock him for 3-4 hours sucks, but how does it make you in the right to then break the rules and snipe OoA from them?

I don't claim to have an answer for the poopsocking. We have been told time and time again that "if you want the kill, you gotta put in the time." It sounds like you made the decision to do the rest of Sky at the opportunity cost of leaving Isle 1.5 open for TR to come in and sit at the spawn point.

But what I don't understand is how you can say the things you say in the other thread when we were asking them to stop being douchebags all the time, then you go decide that two wrongs make a right, stoop to their level, and blatantly snipe their spawned mob?

What is the point of having some semblance of raiding rules so people know what the expectations are, if no one fucking follows them nor gets held accountable for not following them? The GMs have better shit to do, I'm sure. Like turning me into a unicorn.

[TR Spokesman]

so when are we doing this VD/TR super-merger?

[Alarti0001]

I know the fact that they plop right down on Dojorn's spawn point and poopsock him for 3-4 hours sucks, but how does it make you in the right to then break the rules and snipe OoA from them?

I don't claim to have an answer for the poopsocking. We have been told time and time again that "if you want the kill, you gotta put in the time." It sounds like you made the decision to do the rest of Sky at the opportunity cost of leaving Isle 1.5 open for TR to come in and sit at the spawn point.

But what I don't understand is how you can say the things you say in the other thread when we were asking them to stop being douchebags all the time, then you go decide that two wrongs make a right, stoop to their level, and blatantly snipe their spawned mob?

What is the point of having some semblance of raiding rules so people know what the expectations are, if no one fucking follows them nor gets held accountable for not following them? The GMs have better shit to do, I'm sure. Like turning me into a unicorn.

The raid rules get changed to suit purposes.....15 man spawn pt camping is supposed to be done according to a GM, and also according to an agreement between TR and TMO... cause really who wants to poopsock.

But then a gm broadcasts that rules are as posted on forums, and that gm never changed the rules on the forums.... what are we supposed to follow. Rules are brought up and bandied about anytime TR wants a loot. TMO just wants to play FTE.

[YendorLootmonkey]

so when are we doing this VD/TR super-merger?

As soon as hanging out by a batphone all day/night until we get the call to log in for 10 minutes to snipe a dragon from another guild, or getting ordered to sit around Trak's lair spam-clicking Target Nearest NPC/Range Attack for hours and hours sounds one bit appealing to us.

Yeah, no thanks.

[TR Spokesman]

The raid rules get changed to suit purposes.....15 man spawn pt camping is supposed to be done according to a GM, and also according to an agreement between TR and TMO... cause really who wants to poopsock.

But then a gm broadcasts that rules are as posted on forums, and that gm never changed the rules on the forums.... what are we supposed to follow. Rules are brought up and bandied about anytime TR wants a loot. TMO just wants to play FTE.

TMO has more members than TR

TR fears FTE because TMO has better odds at landing FTE in sock fests

TR will continue to petition for loot until all other guilds bow to it's needs.

GTFO our raidscene.

[TR Spokesman]

As soon as hanging out by a batphone all day/night until we get the call to log in for 10 minutes to snipe a dragon from another guild, or getting ordered to sit around Trak's lair spam-clicking Target Nearest NPC/Range Attack for hours and hours sounds one bit appealing to us.

Yeah, no thanks.

you'd poopsock DA idol for days, but not trakanon for a few hours?

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Bisch it is because you are full of it and putting a spin on everything you can to make TR the good guys and us the bad guys. just muddy it all up enough so no one can tell who is dirty or not? What your blind monkey ass didn't see when we ported up to sky was the fact we waited until you pulled and wiped. Your tr fanboy ass saw us port up and assumed we were there to ks when all we did was set up in case you wiped. You didn't get a tell from us because I wasn't talking to you kid. When you wiped we let the mob reset, and pulled. And I can't believe your bullshit about us 'exploiting' Nagafen. I saw the exploit, I reported it. We didn't go in knowing about the possibility and didn't use it as part of our strategy in which we logged all the lvl 52 plus and logged on alts. The real question is how long other people knew and didn't say shit and how some people were there watching for said exploit or bug to happen. if they didn't know, how were they there cameras ready? Guild knows there is an exploit so when another guild gets there and unwittingly finds it they have the cameras out to 'catch' them in the act.

You're full of shit. Everything you say is a lie or the distortion of the truth. You would have everyone sit back and let TR have everything and do what they want, act how they want because conflict is bad for the server health! And anytime anyone tries to stand up to their bullying it creates conflict and the server health is in danger! Right now it just looks like you are kissing their ass and begging for table scraps. You are a spineless gutless coward who we only now see poke their head now because it has apparently been stuck up TR ass for so long. Let me summarize all of this with a simple

Fuck you.

p.s. Why did VD go to hate when Dojorn was due? I could swear every Dojorn for the past month had VD there.

[Spoodowg2000bc]

this sounds like a cool server. hopefully i can get high enough level to beef this hard. classic EQ.

[Alarti0001]

TMO has more members than TR

TR fears FTE because TMO has better odds at landing FTE in sock fests

TR will continue to petition for loot until all other guilds bow to it's needs.

GTFO our raidscene.

TR has more 60's just be happy with Gorenaire ! lolz

[TR Spokesman]

TR has more 60's just be happy with Gorenaire ! lolz

will do. Lemme know if you want to join us some time, we might be able to even let you get SS while looting her corpse.

[YendorLootmonkey]

you'd poopsock DA idol for days, but not trakanon for a few hours?

Trak's loot can't make a ranger invincible for 18 seconds.

[TR Spokesman]

Trak's loot can't make a ranger invincible for 18 seconds.

but it can port you to some gay place where level 60 rangers can solo.

[Knuckle]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14667

Q: What about raid mobs that are spawned by a combination of other mobs?
A: In the case of a raid mob that is spawned by clearing an area (Example: Azarack Island in Plane of Sky), the guild that did the clearing has the same consideration as above; That is, 20 Minutes to engage and 1 attempt. In the case of multiple guilds contributing significantly to the spawn of the mob, the mob is first to engage by any of those guilds.

rais for u any mob that pops u get a shot at i promise

[Rais]

You're full of shit. Everything you say is a lie or the distortion of the truth. You would have everyone sit back and let TR have everything and do what they want, act how they want because conflict is bad for the server health! And anytime anyone tries to stand up to their bullying it creates conflict and the server health is in danger! Right now it just looks like you are kissing their ass and begging for table scraps. You are a spineless gutless coward who we only now see poke their head now because it has apparently been stuck up TR ass for so long. Let me summarize all of this with a simple

Fuck you.

p.s. Why did VD go to hate when Dojorn was due? I could swear every Dojorn for the past month had VD there.

Show anything I said was a lie about your guild. You can't because it's the truth.Take the blinders off and know you're part of the problem. Back it up with facts. There are Screenshots of your guild doing this. Lostprofits posted how to use Showeq/Admitted it in TS during raids in Trans. You knew this. Is he not a officer of your guild?

You are a spineless gutless coward
You can't even shake a stick at the stuff I've been though. So you can kindly back the fuck off.

[Alarti0001]

Show anything I said was a lie about your guild. You can't because it's the truth.Take the blinders off and know you're part of the problem. Back it up with facts. There are Screenshots of your guild doing this. Lostprofits posted how to use Showeq/Admitted it in TS during raids in Trans. You knew this. Is he not a officer of your guild?


You can't even shake a stick at the stuff I've been though. So you can kindly back the fuck off.

Summary: If I say I am telling the truth... then I can't be lying. Also, unless you sit around like a fool with logs and screenshots with 3 years of history than I am also right. Not that I have screenshots to back me up or anything.
amirite?

[Eabon]

This is the first time I've ever posted on a thread like this, and I'm quite positive I'm going to regret it.

Taken went up to Sky at around 7 or 8PM EST; TMO went up to Sky at around 8 or 9PM EST. As it turns out, both guilds had planned to raid their usual haunts in Sky in anticipation of the Noble spawning and then make a move for the Noble cycle. As soon as TMO arrived in Sky, we talked with Taken to find out what their aims were, and shared with them our own. We talked through it a little bit, and came to an agreement as to how we could divy out the Efreeti's.

I'm not saying in any way that the fact that TMO and Taken had made an agreement automatically prohibits any other guild from expressing interest in the mobs, I'm merely demonstrating that diplomacy can work, and that there are options besides showing up, sitting around expectantly, and insisting that your guild gets all the mobs and all the loot. Different guilds have different capabilities and different goals. Very often if you just put just a little bit of effort into talking like adults, everybody wins.

Approximately an hour after TMO and TR have come to an understanding, some time between 9 and 10PM EST I believe, TR enters the zone and proceeds to Isle 1.5 where they place their entire raid force outside/inside Noble's tower (I wasn't there, so I have no idea where exactly they camped). A short time after this, Kinsawt expresses in OOC his intent to claim all three Efreeti's (Noble Dojorn, Overseer of Air, The Hand of Veeshan).
So, there we have it. In the space of 30-60 minutes Plane of Sky goes from hosting an amicable agreement between two competitive guilds to hosting a pretty intense poopsocking session. All talks with Kinsawt break down. Clearly, as is abundantly evidenced by the Uthgaard-Kinsawt-Zeelot logs, he is not prepared to compromise. I send him a tell, making the observation that there are three guilds here and three efreetis. I then go on to make the obvious suggestion that perhaps it's going to be the best situation for all involved if each guild had a single Efreeti? I get nothing but a nonsensical non-answer back.

TR is the guild who has said that they want above anything to avoid poopsocking.
TR is the guild who has said that in order to prevent poopsocking they are all for talking and coming to agreements before things get messy

All actions displayed by TR today blatantly contradict these prior positions.

[Alarti0001]

Eabon.. you are doing it wrong... this is RnF

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Yendor if they wanted change we would've had it. Long before now. The GMs do have better things to do, and the solution Yendor is a simple one. Have the guild leaders sit down and work something out. It has always been that way since day 1, yet never happened. You want change? This was a perfect example but the conversation went like this "We are poopsocking Dojorn and lay claim to all the rest of the efreetis. You are on ignore now that I have delivered this message."

Don't start the history lesson at me. This has been going on for a while Yendor you know it and we all know it. Long before I got into this mess or TMO went for Trakanon. There is a system in place that serves them and them only and as long as no one else wants anything peace exists. When someone else comes up to raid mobs, instead of an arrangement or agreement worked out they try to destroy you no matter what. You have 700 people on the server playing by a ruleset only 100 want max. That makes sense.

[Spoodowg2000bc]

if i level up which winning argument can i be part of? THIS IS AWESOME

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Is he not a officer of your guild?

No he isn't an officer.

But you know everything, right?

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

And back me off little man.

[YendorLootmonkey]

TR is the guild who has said that they want above anything to avoid poopsocking.
TR is the guild who has said that in order to prevent poopsocking they are all for talking and coming to agreements before things get messy

All actions displayed by TR today blatantly contradict these prior positions.

Not saying it wasn't a dick move by TR, but you would have a lot more ground to stand on from a moral perspective if you didn't snipe the OoA they spawned. Instead, it was just immature retaliation. "Well, they didn't want to come to an agreement so we just took what we thought was ours, F them."

Please help me understand how two wrongs make a right in this situation?

[Alarti0001]

You have 700 people on the server playing by a ruleset only 100 want max. That makes sense.

60 or so really

[Spoodowg2000bc]

hey guyz

[Spoodowg2000bc]

i wanna keep playing on this server, eq is best game cause it's all about beef

[G13]

When I was in Trans, we didn't use showEQ but everyone else still cried because big Abacab pickpocked raid targets of all the gems and words before the opposing guild could drop it.

When the server cried that Abacab was ruining friendliness I formed Boyz N'Tha Hood which was a crew of about 8 people composed of rogues, mages, and druids and we ported up to hate and out-DPS'd every mob an opposing guild pulled.

Did I give a fuck? No. Did my guild give a fuck? No.

We did that because every other guild on the server we're too busy pplaying rules lawyer and we just came to the conclusion that if we really wanted something we took it.

By the end of the whole ordeal I had bags full of blue diamonds and sapphires, and illegally collected several pieces of planar by fucking over other guilds, my guild and I were so fucking rich that we needed to take it to the new level...


So we trained DA and stole tranix and ran him to the zone line to train out everyone so we could pick him off... Killed 45 DA members in the process. We then decided to ninjaloot Nagafen to which I took his entire loot table right in front of Rogean... Did Boyz give a fuck? No.

We were the baddest fucking guild on the block and we took no shit

I love how Abacab will use any reason to talk about the adventures of Big Abacab

Much respect bro

[YendorLootmonkey]

Yendor if they wanted change we would've had it. Long before now. The GMs do have better things to do, and the solution Yendor is a simple one. Have the guild leaders sit down and work something out. It has always been that way since day 1, yet never happened. You want change? This was a perfect example but the conversation went like this "We are poopsocking Dojorn and lay claim to all the rest of the efreetis. You are on ignore now that I have delivered this message."

Shaere, you know what you're dealing with in terms of TR. It should be no surprise to anyone at this point. If you want Noble Dojorn, then put your raid force at 1.5 and be FTE.

Your night in Sky went to hell when you didn't plan for another guild coming up for Dojorn, thinking your agreement with TMO took care of who got what. And just your luck, the third guild that showed up was TR. You could have came down to play the FTE game with them on 1.5 if you wanted. TMO could have, too.

Instead, someone decided it would just be easier to ignore the rules and wait for a shot at OoA as soon as the opportunity arose.

I FULLY AGREE it was a dick move by TR. However, knowing TR's M.O., it was something you should have safeguarded against if you wanted Dojorn. And then if you got FTE on Dojorn and TR tried to gank OoA on you after you spawned it, you would most likely have a rock solid case here because the raid rules would be in your favor. But in the reverse scenario, they are not... so sniping OoA doesn't exactly promote "making things better" either, and makes everyone involved who supposedly wants to "make things better" a bit hypocritical.

[Diggles]

If this server was Red we could poopsock TMO members

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

We didn't think what you said. We thought our agreement with TMO was between just us. It didn't guarantee us anything as far as other guilds. The only way as you say to, "safeguard" against what we know their M.O. to be is sit our guild on the spawn point for however many hours and fore go our sky raid? Isn't that precisely what you do if you don't want change? They act a certain way, and get what they want. Like children or animals, if you continue to reward them for acting a certain way they will continue to act a certain way. If they get what they want from doing certain things they will continue to act that way. We didn't decide to ignore anything and try sniping anything.

We could have sat our raid force on the spawn and acted like that and how would that change anything? You all want change step up. No one who can affect any positive change has over the past year, and you still want to rely on them to do so? Stand up to the bullying and affect change. Sticking up for yourself is not the same as going and picking on someone weaker then you. They are bullies who think they are entitled. Every time we raid we work something out with whatever other guild is planning it, or is where we chose to raid. The ONLY guild that refuses to do so is the guild you defend.

[vitalious]

Shaere/Taken, TR, TMO, and every other guild in this thread is responsible for the server's current raid scene. Instead of pointing fingers at each other laying blame on them for causing the current clusterfuck, how about you look at yourself in the mirror. It's been shown in this thread that you're all too busy blaming each other. You cant worry about what the other guilds are doing. You either make a conscious choice to change the way YOU behave, or you become part of the problem. The way other people play should have no affect on how you want to behave in game, whether it be on a personal level or a raid level.

"But they did it first, so we're doing it too." Is the most childish bullshit I've ever heard. This is directed right at you Shaere, you posted almost this exact statement a few posts back. Learn to have conviction and standards instead of caving to utter immature bullshit behavior.

[Iondera]

Ok so I've been lurking for awhile here's what I've seen from here and other R&F posts.

TR wants raid mobs.
TR doesn't want to poopsock but if put in a situation where if they don't sock it they won't get the mob then they sock it.
TR does not what to share anything with Taken. (Could be simplified to TR does not what to share anything, but it has been known to happen).

TMO and Taken were in Sky counting their chickens before they hatched. TR ported in and claimed camp before them. TMO and Taken offered to share the mobs they had talked about splitting, but no longer had claim on to in hopes TR would accept and everyone could walk away with something. TR knowing by server rules it was all theirs now said no. TMO and Taken think it's bullshit and snipe OoA anyway after TR had to camp due it summoning their pullers to another island because they engaged and shouldn't have. TMO and Taken come to R&F and explain they work together, and why what they did was justified. Ok so maybe just Taken trying to justify it there.

I love R&F it's given me lots to read and laugh about. I think the justification of pulling a mob because it would have been theirs had they planned better made me laugh the most. Well no, more the fact that every week it changes who the bad guy is makes me laugh the most. OMG TR petitioned and got loot FU, OMG TMO trained TR FU, OMG Taken exploited FU. Lulz for reals, keep it up guys.

[Alarti0001]

If this server was Red we could poopsock TMO members

I seem to remember us poopsocking ur corpses

[YendorLootmonkey]

The ONLY guild that refuses to do so is the guild you defend.

Right, because I was totally defending them in this thread (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=45073) all last week. You have a short memory.

I'm calling out the bullshit, regardless of which guild does it. I'm not defending TR so much as I'm calling out Taken/TMO for sniping a mob. Especially when I just got done calling TR out for doing the same thing last week. Notice a trend here?

But, Vitalious said it better and more succinctly than I have been doing:

You cant worry about what the other guilds are doing. You either make a conscious choice to change the way YOU behave, or you become part of the problem.

[Lazortag]

Given how good Taken, TMO and TR are at dispute resolution, I'm surprised the UN hasn't asked them to solve the israeli-palestinian conflict yet!

[Zereh]

GTFO our raidscene.

[Diggles]

Given how good Taken, TMO and TR are at dispute resolution, I'm surprised the UN hasn't asked them to solve the israeli-palestinian conflict yet!

Training doesn't work as well irl

[JenJen]

Yendor and bischy takin out the trash

[Eccezan]

Not that simple Yendor. It ends when they quit acting like they do. It isn't our actions that caused them to do anything, they chose to do this from the start. It is fallacy to say anyone else is the cause of any of this. You don't want this nonsense, they can quit creating the situation. We planned sky around Noble Dojorn spawn time with the intent of pulling him when he spawned. TMO arrives on scene and tell us their intent, we work a compromise. To avoid sitting a raid on a spawn point like a 8 year old and saying 'MINE". TR ports up, sits 40 some people on Dojorns spawn then informs us all they're taking Dojorn OOA and Hand so there ya go. And sit there for 3 or 4 hours.

The 'rule' was made because guilds couldn't cooperate and ganked each other's KoS or PoS or whatever. So two guilds decide to work together in the spirit of fair play and common sense and not play the game like some 5th graders and you know, I suggested to Kinsawt perhaps we could take dojorn and they could take OOA and the answer was 'MINE'. So what you are telling me is you would rather have this leapfrogging sniping poopsocking state that exists rather then risk angering TR? Fuck TR. Everyone wants change except TR, what don't you get. They force people into situations by acting like dicks. If They REALLY wanted change they would have either not zoned up when they saw both us guilds there, or worked out a compromise where each guild got one of the efreeti, or a chance at them.

It baffles me you cannot see this, their actions and the actions of others created the situation that created the rules. The 'rules' that only serve to enable the same behavior.

QFT

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Vitalious said nothing right. You are naive to think the raid scene was fine before Taken or TMO went for raid mobs. We go for what 6 or so raid mobs and all of a sudden yes, it is Taken who is responsible! They created this mess in a whole week! The only reason it is an issue is because guilds go for mobs TR thinks are theirs by right and then you miscreants think that we must have created the problem. And what I said was more along the lines of we won't stoop to their level but if they come in and try this behavior we won't cave. Your look the other way and don't get involved mentality equates to letting them do what they want and always have done and will continue to do. We don't go race up to hate when we see a guild there and sit on Innoruuks spawn point. We talk to other guilds about raids and intentions and plan so as not to interfere or make the best of a situation if we both go at the same time. So when they port up and tell us to leave the mobs are theirs and we say no, we are stooping to their level?

Think more along the lines of a bully walking into a room and he shoves someone. And another person. And another. One day someone stands up to them. What was that idiot doing stooping to that level? How can he hope to affect change by not letting himself get shoved? Your remark would be more accurate if TR was waiting for Dojorn and we clicked up to snipe OOA. Or my analogy to someone standing in line at the DMV waiting for turn. Someone else comes in at the last minute and pushes to the front, and you have 2 choices. Do nothing or do something. It isn't stooping to their level it's fucking standing up for it.

You don't want these situations to occur then maybe they should quit creating them. Ever think about that? if they hadn't come up to sky swinging their dicks and telling everyone all the mobs were theirs now that they arrived maybe there would have been no situation? But no, you keep on ignoring that. You are sheep. This server has been in this state with whatever guilds for how long? Can you name some guilds that are no longer really part of the server? Raid guilds who were pretty much good people but just couldn't take the bs? Like Divinity? Seen any other guilds who are losing people and raiding less or having the ability to raid diminish? Quit laying down mewling about changing the way you behave all you want. While I agree in principle I, as most people do, behave accordingly. If you hit me, I hit you back. You kill my brother, I kill your whole fucking family. You can worry about what other guilds are doing because you have a system in place that only 70 or so out of 700 people on this server want. One guild wants the current rules in place, every single other just wants to play eq and have fun and re-live some of the nostalgia. And all your sniveling about just let them do what they want is merely serving them. Or sit on the sidelines and do nothing. Milk toast motherfuckers.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

QFT

Fuck you too.

[Diggles]

Fuck you too.

Unless that was internet sarcasm, you're a fucking idiot.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

This the guy that has done nothing other then to try recruit active members and hurt this guild?

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Either way I could give a shit he was a fucking idiot to say that to me. He burned that bridge the instant he posted.

Fuck you.

[Diggles]

Angry at 4 in the morning
nothing better

[Diggles]

And don't even get me started, you've been feeding off the teat of better guilds the moment you decided to send the petition to start your shit guild.

[JenJen]

shaere you are the most dramatic person on p99. kill your brother, kill my family, wut? this is a video game.

i remember you being v similar on Tunare , always crying. to be fair you look like you can handle yourself irl, why not just chill out and enjoy yourself for once? its summer time !

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Make a speech in anger and make the best speech you'll ever regret. Internet just makes it worse, no? Thing is I don't necessarily think it is a bad thing, it is how I feel.

[Diggles]

rage posts

better than drunk posts

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I was making an analogy, what was it from, the Godfather? It meant if you fuck with me I fuck with you back, you poke me I poke you harder? In other words, bleh nm. I am not crying, I am angry and I think the internet term you use is raging? So fuck your cying comment.

[TR Spokesman]

Training doesn't work as well irl

idk, 99% of ever train vs _____ video, usually has the train as the victor.

Juz sayeen

[Diggles]

KILL MY CAT, ILL BURN DOWN YOUR GOD DAMN ANIMAL FARM

[JenJen]

each to their own i guess

its really just the wrong server to try enjoy high end raiding. unless you adhere to "if you cant beat them join them."

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

KILL MY CAT, ILL BURN DOWN YOUR GOD DAMN ANIMAL FARM

This.

[Diggles]

idk, 99% of ever train vs _____ video, usually has the train as the victor.

Juz sayeen

There aren't very many zone lines IRL and feign death has like a 75% fail rate

[quido]

Wow Shaere I can't believe you. You would actually ninja-engage TR's mob? Who the FUCK do you think you are?! I can't believe you would stoop to this level.

If you help fifty old people cross the street and you kill one baby you're still a baby murderer. There is no grey here - just black and white! If you seek friendly play overall but break the rules even once, it doesn't matter - you are a rule breaker, an unjustified piece of soulless shit. You can try and spin it however you want; you are clearly the spawn of Satan.

[Diggles]

TR would kill the old people and blame it on the baby.

then petition for the baby's outfit

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Allow me to go for the obvious.

Fuck you. Enjoy TR.

[Fraggle]

Hot air and bluster.

Thanks for shaere.

[Fraggle]

Wow Shaere I can't believe you. You would actually ninja-engage TR's mob? Who the FUCK do you think you are?! I can't believe you would stoop to this level.

If you help fifty old people cross the street and you kill one baby you're still a baby murderer. There is no grey here - just black and white! If you seek friendly play overall but break the rules even once, it doesn't matter - you are a rule breaker, an unjustified piece of soulless shit. You can try and spin it however you want; you are clearly the spawn of Satan.

Jeremy has just won this thread. Shaere, you're no better than those you claim to be morally superior to. Suck it up limp dick.

[Bardalicious]

Jeremy has just won this thread. Shaere, you're no better than those you claim to be morally superior to. Suck it up limp dick.

Lol Shaere owned in RnF yet again.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Grats TR then? Because if Jeremy wins, TR wins. Either way fuck you.

[Diggles]

No, fuck you.

[Bardalicious]

Grats TR then? Because if Jeremy wins, TR wins. Either way fuck you.

I don't really see it as "if Jeremy wins, TR wins". I see it more as "If Shaere loses, we all win".


What I'm really getting at here though, is, fuck you guy.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

If Jeremy wins, Taken removes itself from the equation. Meaning TMO can have fun with TR unless some other guild is.. no? Like I said grats TR.

[Motec]

Popcorn.

Thanks for shaere

[Diggles]

If Taken removes themselves, it wouldn't really matter because Taken is already pretty fuckin' nonexistant.

[Motec]

If Taken removes themselves, it wouldn't really matter because Taken is already pretty fuckin' nonexistant.

[quido]

Shaere you are a fickle creature.

[Diggles]

Shaere fuck you

fixed

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Perhaps. Either way it removes the possibility now doesn't it? A server with one guild and 200 people. Laugh.

[Diggles]

We'll replace you with VD, it's k

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Good luck.

[Fraggle]

Good luck.

Bye. You and your band of MacroQuesting Transcendence jizzgobblers will be greatly missed. Oh wait, no - you won't.

[Diggles]

I'd ask for your stuff before you left the door but I'm not sure if I'd want that

[TR Spokesman]

Taken's mob gets took (again)

TMO cleans up (again)

TR petitions (again)


letz do it all again next week!?

[TR Spokesman]

Taken's mob gets took (again)

TMO Petitions (again)

TR Cleans up(again)


in anticipation of next week!?

I think so!

[Diggles]

Agreed!

[TR Spokesman]

Also, VD feels left out of the loop and seeing how they can't get in on the drama of actually raiding, they stir it up with guilds that actually are in the raid scene.

+++

Way to go VD, the server almost forgot about you... almost ( twas a nice dream while it lasted )


Taken would have better luck if it didn't have a guild name that describes what happens to them ( Taken got taken to the cleaners... etc ) pretty demoralizing.


TMO = Too Many Overlords. How the fuck can you have too many overlords, that's just badass imo.

TR = Transgender Rumpragers? (sure the are others). aka TR = You're gonna get fucked no matter if you are a dude, chick, old person, baby and it's gonna be anal. (also because we have the most diverse timezone guild, we can ass rape you when you least expect it)


GTFO our raidscene.

[Koota]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jWNhyMUpjSE/SmjJ-dWQblI/AAAAAAAAELA/JxlZOznSHYA/s400/kitty.jpg

[Bardalicious]

LOL CLASSIC POPCORN CAT THX 4 SHARE

[Maze513]

Inb4Hasbin

[Kruel]

So wait.. how does this effect KOS trigger...? Can build A go to island 4 trigger KOS and any guild just pull him? Srs?

[Misto]

You're all faggots.

[Bubbles]

For the first time in RnF history, i think we've actually had the thread improve in entertainment level on each page.

Cliff notes for those late to the party : The raiding scene on p99 has always sucked. It is continuing to suck. Shaere needs a hug, Bisch is nailing supermodels with a stepladder, Yendor is bored at work, Jeremy is wasting energy using logic, and still far, far, too many people hiding behind fake accounts in RnF.

Seriously though, I think Tiggles has proven RnF is harmless yet amusing fun. Why in heavens name would anyone feel the need to flame anonymously?

[Fazlazen]

[QUOTE=Bubbles;370116] Bisch is nailing supermodels with a stepladderQUOTE]

[aerokella]

This was one entertaining qq read before work.

[to0p]

Holy shit you guys cry and whine... thank god you never played on Rallos Zek on live - try dealing with a guild wiping YOU in the planes before taking your mob, and at the same time taking your main tank(s) CoF(s).

Seriously, quit bitching, if you dont like the rules go make your own server ;)-~

[to0p]

Visit http://www.PeacePipeGuild.com for more information.

[to0p]

We're recruiting raiders who dont whine, complain, and can enjoy a relaxed atmosphere ... oh wait im in the wrong thread.

[Tiggles]

For the lonest time I thought VD and BDA where the same guild on the forums.

I also thought Yendor was a cool guy but he's just another casual retard who talks shit on stuff he has no business discussing.

Why doesnt VD go back to farming isle1/2 and clearing hate and leave the content to the people who don't suck at this game.

Also, Sowing people and holding a shovel in EC doesnt make you a superhero it makes you the equivalent to my bank alt.

[Feachie]

so what you're saying is, you were cool with yendor until he started bashing you guys too? cool story

[to0p]

What Im saying is:
http://peacepipeguild.com/img/hgh4.jpg

[Jarnauga]

For the lonest time I thought VD and BDA where the same guild on the forums.

I also thought Yendor was a cool guy but he's just another casual retard who talks shit on stuff he has no business discussing.

Why doesnt VD go back to farming isle1/2 and clearing hate and leave the content to the people who don't suck at this game.

Also, Sowing people and holding a shovel in EC doesnt make you a superhero it makes you the equivalent to my bank alt.

Thanks for reminding me why i would never be in TMO.

[JenJen]

lol tiggles. you are bashing the wrong type of person when you have a fine collection of retards/unemployed "gamers" to choose from (who actually think they ARE good at this game - and want the same things you desire) yendor im afraid doesnt give two shits about raiding "full time" (last i heard he was dating multiple women and holds down a job)

[Tiggles]

lol tiggles. you are bashing the wrong type of person when you have a fine collection of retards/unemployed "gamers" to choose from (who actually think they ARE good at this game - and want the same things you desire) yendor im afraid doesnt give two shits about raiding "full time" (last i heard he was dating multiple women and holds down a job)

Yendor knows I love him, I just wanted to be apart of this thread.

Yendor you are a lvl 47 ranger who's only use was to give me a sky quest item your guild mooched when DA was carrying you in sky.

[JenJen]

me and yendor technically both have boss server firsts under our belt (eye of veeshan) so that makes us like uber cool (80 mages ftw whilst me and yendor kind of stood and watched)

[Stibe]

lol tiggles. you are bashing the wrong type of person when you have a fine collection of retards/unemployed "gamers" to choose from (who actually think they ARE good at this game - and want the same things you desire) yendor im afraid doesnt give two shits about raiding "full time" (last i heard he was dating multiple women and holds down a job)

Tiggles is one of, if not the, worst rnf posters.

[JenJen]

is that the same Toop who has posted numerous crying/bitching threads - including one regarding a mere FG raid in sol b - calling everyone else whiny bitches?

hi toop.

[Stibe]

is that the same Toop who has posted numerous crying/bitching threads - including one regarding a mere FG raid in sol b - calling everyone else whiny bitches?

hi toop.

"OMG ROGEAN PULL NAGGY OUT OF THE WALL FOR IB! CHEATERS! HAX!"

Then procedes to link me naggy loot saying real guilds get dragons.


How those dragons going there toop?

[Bubbles]

For the lonest time I thought VD and BDA where the same guild on the forums.

I also thought Yendor was a cool guy but he's just another casual retard who talks shit on stuff he has no business discussing.

Why doesnt VD go back to farming isle1/2 and clearing hate and leave the content to the people who don't suck at this game.

Also, Sowing people and holding a shovel in EC doesnt make you a superhero it makes you the equivalent to my bank alt.

/giggle.

So you're saying we totally missed the bus by not merging with DA?

We were already clearing isle 5 + SL with just VD before we even made the pre-kunark-man-we're-bored-enough-to-do-this-team-jobaber-form!-skyplane-farm temp alliance with DA. You know, back when TMO was sitting in north freeport holding guild meetings discussing Droga Raid strats... And clearing isles 1 and 2, coincidentally..

people in grass houses shouldn't stow thrones.

[Tiggles]

Tiggles is one of, if not the, worst rnf posters.

See, Now i'm in the thread

[to0p]

"OMG ROGEAN PULL NAGGY OUT OF THE WALL FOR IB! CHEATERS! HAX!"


Hahaha if i post the screenshots of IB allgedly cheating and the GM's on their alts telling me to be quiet ill get banned...

It's okay, like i said, go make your own server if you dont like the rules. ;)

[Alarti0001]

, Bisch is nailing supermodels with a stepladder,

Wow that was awesome

[Alarti0001]

Thanks for reminding me why i would never be in TMO.

you taking RnF serious reminds us why you would never get in =)

[Bardalicious]

You know, back when TMO was sitting in north freeport holding guild meetings discussing Droga Raid strats... And clearing isles 1 and 2, coincidentally..

Bubbles, you always make me laugh. :D

[Harrison]

Hahaha if i post the screenshots of IB allgedly cheating and the GM's on their alts telling me to be quiet ill get banned...

It's okay, like i said, go make your own server if you dont like the rules. ;)

lol peacepipe

[Diggles]

lol peacepipe

[to0p]

lol peacepipe

Much <3 :)

[to0p]

-> http://www.peacepipeguild.com <-

[YendorLootmonkey]

For the lonest time I thought VD and BDA where the same guild on the forums.

Different names = different guilds, brainiac. :)

I also thought Yendor was a cool guy but he's just another casual retard who talks shit on stuff he has no business discussing.


I raid and play on the server too, so I have some business discussing it. If the guilds at the top are making the raid scene miserable, that ruins the health of the server and indirectly impacts EVERYONE. We ALL have a stake in this. Just because I don't go full retard over pixels and stoop to TR's level to gank a mob from them because they do it to you doesn't mean I have any less business here than the people going full retard.

You say you want change, then change. Don't worry about what the other guild does. Be the better guild first. Oh wait, that won't get you the phat lewts... my bad.

[Tiggles]

Different names = different guilds, brainiac. :)



I raid and play on the server too, so I have some business discussing it. If the guilds at the top are making the raid scene miserable, that ruins the health of the server and indirectly impacts EVERYONE. We ALL have a stake in this. Just because I don't go full retard over pixels and stoop to TR's level to gank a mob from them because they do it to you doesn't mean I have any less business here than the people going full retard.

You say you want change, then change. Don't worry about what the other guild does. Be the better guild first. Oh wait, that won't get you the phat lewts... my bad.



Think of it like 2 guys holding guns at each other, each person shouting down the other to put down the gun.

No guild is going to put down the gun unless the other one does as well so we keep the guns pointed at each other.

TMO has said time and time again we would agree to a play nice policy if TR would agree to the same terms but it does not so we do not.

What this server needs is Denzel Washington to come and negotiate this stand off.

[Harrison]

lol DA/fishbait/tmo

[Speedling]

/giggle.

So you're saying we totally missed the bus by not merging with DA?

We were already clearing isle 5 + SL with just VD before we even made the pre-kunark-man-we're-bored-enough-to-do-this-team-jobaber-form!-skyplane-farm temp alliance with DA. You know, back when TMO was sitting in north freeport holding guild meetings discussing Droga Raid strats... And clearing isles 1 and 2, coincidentally..

people in grass houses shouldn't stow thrones.

GG HF.

[Barkingturtle]

What this server needs is Denzel Washington to come and negotiate this stand off.

What this server needs is an enema.

Ban TMO and TR, imo.

[Diggles]

Ban fags

so ban everyone but TR

[TR Spokesman]

What this server needs is an enema.

Ban TMO and TR, imo.

then you'd have even more retards take their place.


VD and Taken would be the new TMO and TR and you'd all be in this drama first hand instead of jerking off to the smallest hint of TMO/TR.


You should be fucking grateful we kill these god damn dragons!

GTFO of our Raidscene.

[Tiggles]

/giggle.

So you're saying we totally missed the bus by not merging with DA?

We were already clearing isle 5 + SL with just VD before we even made the pre-kunark-man-we're-bored-enough-to-do-this-team-jobaber-form!-skyplane-farm temp alliance with DA. You know, back when TMO was sitting in north freeport holding guild meetings discussing Droga Raid strats... And clearing isles 1 and 2, coincidentally..

people in grass houses shouldn't stow thrones.

Your guild does not kill ANYTHING RELEVENT

You cannot say you are a casual guild who doesnt care about the raid scene in one post then try and make fun of another guild when they where sitting in NFP and you in sky.

[JenJen]

i think hes just poking fun that tmo were outside the top 5 guilds on the svr until they merged with DA.

[JenJen]

dont shoot the translator yo'

[Tiggles]

Jenjen out of all the P99 women that post here I find you the most attractive. You remind me of an old girlfriend who allowed me to play video games while she sat and watched contently. I get that kind of vibe from you

I have an associate going to London on business september 7-9th and i'm thinking of trying to tag along.

Are you Single?

[Bardalicious]

Your guild does not kill ANYTHING RELEVENT

You cannot say you are a casual guild who doesnt care about the raid scene in one post then try and make fun of another guild when they where sitting in NFP and you in sky.

Don't get mad at Bubbles for speaking the truth. You missed the entire point of the post.

Don't fool yourself into thinking this game takes any semblance of skill. You throw enough retards at a single target and you win, gg. You're stooping to talking shit about casual guilds now and it's pretty fucking sad pal, especially since TMO was in the same boat before they merged and gained enough members to zerg targets. Number of players combined with real life hours wasted = anyone can raid classic EQ.

TMO on Fennin Ro was never this retard-strong. What happened Zeelot?

[Diggles]

Tiggles, I lol'd SO HARD

Tiggles, JJ = DG, pizzaman

[Bubbles]

Your guild does not kill ANYTHING RELEVENT

You cannot say you are a casual guild who doesnt care about the raid scene in one post then try and make fun of another guild when they where sitting in NFP and you in sky.

I can and i just did.

I'm sure you can appreciate the artistry of valiantly holding the higher ground until I was attacked directly.

In layman's terms i didn't say anything until you literally described TMO pre-kunark in attempting to describe VD. /yawn. You joined the devil, you're dealing with the consequences. And you're right, we could could fucking care less about your plight, outside of entertaining bathroom reading material on the laptop. :)

And here's the other difference: we never made fun of anyone and/or even bragged when we doing 'big things' (tm). Which is why people actually like us and jump to our defense in the rare instance we're actually involved in these little scrums.

I don't feed trolls. You feed trolls to slay dragons. Jump through your hoops, i'm all tapped out in the 'care' department.

[Werlop]

TMO on Fennin Ro was never this retard-strong. What happened Zeelot?

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0809/retard-strength-retard-strength-demotivational-poster-1221603161.jpg

[JenJen]

i can only dream of being one and the same as Tiggles, sadly ;(

tigs i could possibly watch you kill trak np's but i couldnt watch the poopsock!! although im sure we could think of things to do

ohhh how we have harmless fun in rnf.

[Diggles]

sex while he poopsocks

[bigswol]

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srz business on p99

[Tiggles]

i can only dream of being one and the same as Tiggles, sadly ;(

tigs i could possibly watch you kill trak np's but i couldnt watch the poopsock!! although im sure we could think of things to do

ohhh how we have harmless fun in rnf.

Lets eat fish and chips and watch Doctor Who.

Are you Single?

[Alarti0001]

outside of entertaining bathroom reading material on the laptop. :)


This is even worse than poopsocking

[Tiggles]

Who brings their laptop in the bathroom with them?

[Feachie]

nasty fuckin people who like shit on their keyboard obviously

[JenJen]

Lets eat fish and chips and watch Doctor Who.

Are you Single?

of course im single. i post on this forum dont i? :)

doctor who i dont like! in fact i have always hated it enough to switch over if it comes on next.

fish and chips is good, but not really romantic.

i fear we arent a good match after all Tigs :(

[Tiggles]

nasty fuckin people who like shit on their keyboard obviously

Or people too poor for a smartphone

[Tiggles]

of course im single. i post on this forum dont i? :)

doctor who i dont like! in fact i have always hated it enough to switch over if it comes on next.

fish and chips is good, but not really romantic.

i fear we arent a good match after all Tigs :(

Won't know until we try

[druziil]

i heard Tiggles was fat

[wrxBRAH]

make raidzones pvp. problem solved.

[Feachie]

make raidzones pvp. problem solved.

awesome idea imo :eek:

[Diggles]

Feachie, would you tap Trak

[Feachie]

my heart belongs to zlandicar

[YendorLootmonkey]

This is even worse than poopsocking

At least the poop is going into the right place.

[Anger]

You dumb bro?

[deakolt]

I think they are Pro killing. They have lower numbers than TMO, and the only way they can beat a mass of people is to beat them to the punch. Just like you and Taken were sitting at Overseerer of Air ready to tag him as soon as he spawned.

Personally TMO and Taken should be raid suspended for 2 weeks. Blatant disregard to server rules (This, and Winterfresh training TR on Trak kill) and Taken Exploiting naggy(with level 52+ casting on him), and now this breaking server rules.

The simple fact that the exploration of Naggy by Taken, nor the indent with Winterfresh training with Fraps on a raid hasn't been dished out is puzzling.

That I find funny, because server rules were stated by TR before Noble spawned/killed.

Here in first picture is TR stating server rules on mob spawns like this.

The second picture is TMO telling you all to get ready to tag since Noble is about to die.

So no only did you all know the rules, disregard them, and still decided fuck the server rules. We're going to do this how we want.

If people can't see the issue that's going on that TMO, TR, and now Taken are apart of fighting over mobs/pulling/leapfrogging, and how bad it is with the server. I just don't understand.

an intelligent man who invests a little too much of himself in EQ

[Tiggles]

Was told you guys need more monks. Is this true?

Direct quote from the TR recruitment thread.

Stop sucking TR dick because you want an App tag.

[Seaweedpimp]

Bisch is probably the only person on these forums that annoys me.

[Diggles]

I want to annoy Seaweed.

How do I go about doing this

[JenJen]

try this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cVlTeIATBs&feature=related

[Ektar]

I hear he walks up and down the streets every night salting the sidewalks. Maybe he's just trying to be nice? No way. That garbage can full of salt? That's where he keeps his victims. The salt turns the bodies... into mummies.

idk work with that

[JenJen]

lulz

[Rais]

Direct quote from the TR recruitment thread.

Stop sucking TR dick because you want an App tag.

I guess you didn't get the joke of making fun of them for using monks use whirlwind to tank everything?

[JenJen]

i know why bischy has no desire to join tmo or tr!!

[Tiggles]

I guess you didn't get the joke of making fun of them for using monks use whirlwind to tank everything?

Kinsawt in KC last night said you are talking his ear off about appling but you don't want to leave your guild for bla bla bla bla

[Silentone]

Wow...i made it to the end of the thread..do i win?

[Ektar]

no... nobody wins.

[Ektar]

in fact an angel dies every time someone reaches the end of an rnf thread

[deakolt]

angels are false prophets anyways so fuck em

[vitalious]

/giggle.

So you're saying we totally missed the bus by not merging with DA?

We were already clearing isle 5 + SL with just VD before we even made the pre-kunark-man-we're-bored-enough-to-do-this-team-jobaber-form!-skyplane-farm temp alliance with DA. You know, back when TMO was sitting in north freeport holding guild meetings discussing Droga Raid strats... And clearing isles 1 and 2, coincidentally..

people in grass houses shouldn't stow thrones.

I laughed so hard when i read this.

[deakolt]

me 2

[Ele]

If you want to court-of-equity to rule in your favor, then you need to come to the table with clean hands.

[Feachie]

i <3 engrish

[Ele]

the*

curse the un-editable forum!

[Trax]

[Thu Aug 04 00:36:43 2011] Perun tells you, 'BLOW ME CAPTAIN FANTASTIC'

Bisch is father time. He personally blew Furor once, ask him to tell you the story.