Are druids any good?

[Dundrige]

Hello

looking to make an alt

i'm curious on druids, i never really grouped with them but there seems to be a lot of druids on the server

are they any good? what do they do? endgame are they powerful?

[Blueberrymuffin]

Yes, Druids are good!

[loramin]

Druids are amazing 1-59, and let you play the most different styles of any class. They can nuke. They can root/rot. They can charm (animals). They can quad kite. Teleport. SoW, Track, Invis ... you get the idea They can go wherever, have two very efficient leveling methods, and in groups they can help with anything except tanking.

At 60 they get an amazing buff, and they can teleport raiders to raids, so they are still wanted in guilds. However, they're one of the weaker classes in raid fights, as other classes heal/nuke better.

Soloing at 60, Druids can do some lower-end loot camps, but other classes dominate the better ones (eg. one of the few high end camps a Druid can do is A4 in PoM, by charming animals ... but others, eg. Shaman, can do the camp more easily). Because of this many 60 Druids still port, or cast PotG for donations instead. Also, 60 Druids can be amazing power levelers, so some sell those services or PL friends.

[Botten]

Hello

looking to make an alt

i'm curious on druids, i never really grouped with them but there seems to be a lot of druids on the server

are they any good? what do they do? endgame are they powerful?

Probably the most fun of all classes.

Best form of travel and often safest ports.

Amazing for power leveling.

Great for different types of soloing like charming, quad kiting, root rot or blast down.

A good tracker.

You may not group but you can for snare and patch heals but you won't often be picked over others. But this doesn't mean your buffs aren't helpful in group.

Not amazing on Raids but a lot of classes aren't.

Great epic weapon.

Go for it play it.

[Goregasmic]

Soloing at 60, Druids can do some lower-end loot camps, but other classes dominate the better ones (eg. one of the few high end camps a Druid can do is A4 in PoM, by charming animals ... but others, eg. Shaman, can do the camp more easily). Because of this many 60 Druids still port, or cast PotG for donations instead. Also, 60 Druids can be amazing power levelers, so some sell those services or PL friends.

Ports are laid back and zero risk but I wanted to add solid druids with good risk tolerance can still solo root rot velks frenzy and kill some named in chardok with charming. Basically anything that doesn't summon. A lot will chose to do stuff like jboots and peggy cloak instead, that works too.

That and shamans gonna shaman but druids can still be a viable duo partner with a melee depending on content. Could always hit NG, djarn or other dungeon camps depending on difficulty and which melee class/gear.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Hello

looking to make an alt

i'm curious on druids, i never really grouped with them but there seems to be a lot of druids on the server

are they any good? what do they do? endgame are they powerful?

Druids are great while leveling. At 60 they aren't going to be able to do as much solo content as something like a Shaman or Enchanter. In terms of whether you should roll a druid alt or not, I would say it mostly depends on what you want to do with your time.

If you just want to have some fun leveling a new character, a Druid would be good for that. If you want to do a bunch of endgame solo content, Druid is more limited

[Snaggles]

Solo - very powerful with dots, nukes, and charm. Not enchanter or shaman level but underrated. I farmed my dragonbane herb in SG with my Druid…it was fun and easy.

Group - Depends on the player but they add a lot of utility if you work hard and are smart. Mobility, charm pets in Chardok and some other areas. Damage shield adds up more than people assume. In a duo I find that can be mana neutral even at the high levels using ES legs to heal with.

Raid - A solid middle of the road class. Nuking Gore, charming pets on plane of fear, spot healing elsewhere. You don’t want them to be a large part of the composition but peppered about they are helpful.

Even if they average to be a B+/B- class, they are exceptionally easy to level and can port all over and cast SoW. It’s a perfect utility player on a server that you might not always find a porter waiting to pick you up. Tho, for a dedicated raider a wizard is far better 95% of the time.

[kjs86z2]

not really

[Crede]

druids are fun to level to 60 if you're willing to charm, it goes really quick. And it's worth it at 60 for having a POTG bot. so yes, everyone should have one imo.

[Nickelback8469]

When I was leveling my Druid, 1-39 was a breeze. I could group as a main healer, I had a sow, and I could charm or quad when soloing. Once you get into the 40's though Druid healing falls off a cliff and you'll have a much harder time grouping since a Cleric or Shaman is almost always going to be picked over you.

Getting through the 40's and 50's wasn't too hard, especially since I was able to pick up a Lumi Staff when I was able to click it and PL myself all the way to 52 in a couple of days, but it was a almost all solo, which for me is a pretty big downside. In the mid-late 50's your charming options are severely limited since there's not many high level animals, but it was a fun way to mix things up when I was falling asleep from quadding. The most fun I had XPing on a higher level druid was with a duo or a small group; Druids are great partners for Necros and there were several times I was carrying the group's DPS with a hasted charm pet in Chardok.

As others have said, it's raiding where Druids really fall off, so them being "good" or not really comes to how important that is to you. If you want a porter and really like to raid, go Wizard. If you want a flexible, independent class that can buff the hell out of any newbies, go Druid.

[Snaggles]

You can easily charm to 60 in the Everfrost bear pits or Chardok. Quadding in TD (raptors) or WL (suites). Dot rot anywhere else.

If you are trying to keep up with a group that can’t keep aggro on a single person, and that person is flimsy, it can be rough. ES legs heal 200hps in 12 seconds which is the equivalent of 6.5 fungis, with regrowth that’s 7.5 fungi’s on the main tank. Considering people solo geos in the high 50’s that’s certainly enough healing for a group that knows what it’s doing (especially with PoTG, c2, a bard, etc).

I don’t buy that any class is a bad raid or group class, some compositions work better, some classes scale without diminishing results, and some classes bring little to nothing for specific fights. If 10% of your raid force in ToV is Druid’s that’s not ideal but it’s better than 10% shamans in Kael. If you have no Druids in PoF charming monkeys that’s rather silly. Moderation is everything, if it doesn’t make sense swap to something that does or play a class nobody will criticize having more of (clerics and rogues).

[kjs86z2]

Turning off the rain in growth $$$

Also, there is that awkward point in charming where bear pits is still too high. Go to Karnors and offer to pull. I did that for a few levels. Was a hoot. Hardly ever used harmo unless i was sneaking down and grabbing pawbuster room / splitting hands.

[Crede]

Turning off the rain in growth $$$

Also, there is that awkward point in charming where bear pits is still too high. Go to Karnors and offer to pull. I did that for a few levels. Was a hoot. Hardly ever used harmo unless i was sneaking down and grabbing pawbuster room / splitting hands.

unfortunately not many druids are this proactive. last druid i saw in kc was just chillin soakin xp occasionally casting their lumi staff in lcy.

[Jimjam]

unfortunately not many druids are this proactive. last druid i saw in kc was just chillin soakin xp occasionally casting their lumi staff in lcy.

KC druids refuse to cast regen as they need to save mana for heal.

[Goregasmic]

unfortunately not many druids are this proactive. last druid i saw in kc was just chillin soakin xp occasionally casting their lumi staff in lcy.

And monk/rangers apparently refuse to pull. I think a lot of people just want to get to 60 with minimal effort.

[kjs86z2]

unfortunately not many druids are this proactive. last druid i saw in kc was just chillin soakin xp occasionally casting their lumi staff in lcy.

yeah because most druid players are shitters

[Nickelback8469]

yeah because most druid players are shitters

It's really disappointing how little effort most Druid players are willing to put into groups. Yes mana can be an issue for the class but over half of the Druids I've encountered in PUGs have refused to cast a 25 mana snare on fleeing mobs or broken charm pets and make no effort to get everyone in the AE for Pack Chloro or such. When there's no Enchanter to mez everything Druid is one of the better alternative CC classes, and in any outdoor zone Druids are one of the best pullers. But the amount of Druids I see stuck on their ass medding 90% of the time only casting Chloroblast on the 4.5k hp tank is overwhelming.

[kjs86z2]

It's really disappointing how little effort most Druid players are willing to put into groups. Yes mana can be an issue for the class but over half of the Druids I've encountered in PUGs have refused to cast a 25 mana snare on fleeing mobs or broken charm pets and make no effort to get everyone in the AE for Pack Chloro or such. When there's no Enchanter to mez everything Druid is one of the better alternative CC classes, and in any outdoor zone Druids are one of the best pullers. But the amount of Druids I see stuck on their ass medding 90% of the time only casting Chloroblast on the 4.5k hp tank is overwhelming.

I had a blast in KC on mine pre bear pits. Had to convince groups to take me, but once I got in and took over pulls it was lights out on any negative stigma. Lots of "best druid I've ever seen" type comments.

I was a menace, though....and geared to the tits so I had a ton of AC/HP to take some whacks. The competing groups did not like me one bit.

Some basics:
- pull macro, please for the love of god tell your group how many mobs are coming

- actively track for warlords (T staves) / named mobs - er'body loves named mobs

- poach everything you can get away with from all other competing camps, especially warlords...nobody expects the druid to be a mob sniper

- only harmo the big pulls like full hands pop or pawbuster room...if you're looking at at a 4 mob pull just snare 1 and scoot, if you can 360noscope fast-cast-root a 2nd on the way back to camp, great...or just body pull and let the chaos ensue in camp its fun this way

- get a feel for how quick mobs are dying, spawn timers, and where mobs are popping next...you want the next 2-4 mobs coming into camp when there are 1-2 left

- snare the damn enchanter pets

- wear your fungi you have stashed away on an alt, swap to SS BP for clicky regen

- dont waste mana on healing the tank, save it for all your utility, or top yourself off before going to collect more merbs

[Mortdecai99]

- snare the damn enchanter pets

Please don't snare my pet

[Jimjam]

A lot of what makes rangers godmode in KC druids have too (or better).


Please don't snare my pet

Np, rooting instead.

[kjs86z2]

Please don't snare my pet

It will be snared and you will like it, pleb.

[Cecily]

If you wanna be extra helpful, ensnare all the Hate mobs at zone in if your guild is wiping.

[Ripqozko]

Druids can do a lot they just never do in raids. they can do all the pet pulling (doze initial, LTK initial, gozzrem initial, PR, doze lanes, etc). They can double DA and push quads. I just never see Druids put forth any effort hardly so most just sow outside on raids and that’s about the limit.

[Duik]

Druids can do a lot they just never do in raids. they can do all the pet pulling (doze initial, LTK initial, gozzrem initial, PR, doze lanes, etc). They can double DA and push quads. I just never see Druids put forth any effort hardly so most just sow outside on raids and that’s about the limit.

Sorry you dont got seeing druids do good things in raids.

[Naethyn]

druid ds is like 1 less

also effective at reducing dps removing all the r10 buffs

[PatChapp]

Druid is fun in fear,fun piloting a dog in kael. Great buffs. Druids just don't stack well,a couple and a whole raid is set.

[BradZax]

Sorry you dont got seeing druids do good things in raids.

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[Duik]

Sorry THJ cuck. Aint nobody (with a brain) watching dat shite.