What QoL changes would you like to see in a remaster?

[onmove_broke]

It seems like remastering games is all the rage and I would not be opposed to EQ getting a remaster if it was done correctly by a competent group of people and not purple haired freaks.

So what , if any, QoL changes would you like to see in a remaster? I would love to see bottle necks removed from the game where one person could hold down the camp forever like Stormfeather or Hate minis.

I would also like to see some dungeons get adjusted to make them more viable, like the loot tables in say Runnyeye or CT etc.

[BradZax]

Thj

[feniin]

So what , if any, QoL changes would you like to see in a remaster? I would love to see bottle necks removed from the game where one person could hold down the camp forever like Stormfeather or Hate minis.


Bottlenecks are what makes (this version of) this game so engaging and re-playable. You should not have equal access to every item in the game if you're not willing to put in the same amount of time and effort as the next person.

[Rygar]

Single 12 slot backpack for inventory , allow a wrist pouch and belt pouch and that is it.

Immersion is broken visualizing an enchanter or rogue fighting with 8 backpacks on their body

[Belambic]

The raid interface would be nice

[Kaia]

The charm of EQ isn't in pristine graphics or streamlined gameplay, it’s in the friction.

That said, some things could be addressed without fundamentally altering the core experience. The bottlenecks you mentioned – Stormfeather, Hate – are valid points. A system that allowed for faster rotations or some kind of timer to prevent indefinite camping would be a welcome change, not a compromise. It would alleviate frustration without necessarily reducing the challenge.

Runnyeye and CT loot tables… yeah, those could use a look. Not necessarily a complete overhaul, but a little nudge to make them feel a bit more rewarding for the time invested. It's less about making them easy and more about ensuring the effort feels proportionally rewarded. A little more variety in drops would be good too.

Beyond that, I’d be cautious about sweeping changes. The real problem with a lot of modern remasters is they try to “fix” things that weren’t broken, or were just different for the time. Things like a more robust in-game map would be nice, though. Something beyond the basic representations.

It's a delicate balance. You want to address genuine pain points, not sanitize the experience into something unrecognizable.

[druidbob]

Single 12 slot backpack for inventory , allow a wrist pouch and belt pouch and that is it.

Immersion is broken visualizing an enchanter or rogue fighting with 8 backpacks on their body

Just imagine you are playing in a Rob Liefeld comic.

[Belambic]

Single 12 slot backpack for inventory , allow a wrist pouch and belt pouch and that is it.

Immersion is broken visualizing an enchanter or rogue fighting with 8 backpacks on their body
You can roleplay that for yourself, you don't need to inconvenience everyone else to do that.

[loramin]

Just imagine you are playing in a Rob Liefeld comic.

https://static0.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/wm/2023/09/rob-liefeld-character-the-pouch-in-bloodstrike-comic.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=825&dpr=1.5

[aaezil]

I would refuse to play that unless it was coded by someone with purple hair

[BradZax]

Single 12 slot backpack for inventory , allow a wrist pouch and belt pouch and that is it.

Immersion is broken visualizing an enchanter or rogue fighting with 8 backpacks on their body

Eq survival extraction mode.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

https://i.imgur.com/LhzrYnH.jpeg

[roks1]

The charm of EQ isn't in pristine graphics or streamlined gameplay, it’s in the friction.

That said, some things could be addressed without fundamentally altering the core experience. The bottlenecks you mentioned – Stormfeather, Hate – are valid points. A system that allowed for faster rotations or some kind of timer to prevent indefinite camping would be a welcome change, not a compromise. It would alleviate frustration without necessarily reducing the challenge.

Runnyeye and CT loot tables… yeah, those could use a look. Not necessarily a complete overhaul, but a little nudge to make them feel a bit more rewarding for the time invested. It's less about making them easy and more about ensuring the effort feels proportionally rewarded. A little more variety in drops would be good too.

Beyond that, I’d be cautious about sweeping changes. The real problem with a lot of modern remasters is they try to “fix” things that weren’t broken, or were just different for the time. Things like a more robust in-game map would be nice, though. Something beyond the basic representations.

It's a delicate balance. You want to address genuine pain points, not sanitize the experience into something unrecognizable.

That's great but I'll just interject and say that is tertiary compared to the evidence EQ has provided us for 15 years. The nature of it's draw is the sandbox manner in which you can engage the game. Look at how raiding evolved here outside of the Courts with the lawyers. There's no way a single person that originally raided into velious would recognize anything that goes on in the raiding scene, because the nature of pressure. The unorthodox use of any clickable item to any advantage was spinal tapped to 11 here, the nature of the beast continued to evolve... sure mechanics aren't classic here or there, but it is funny to watch trash mobs be whipped around while the zerg hordes burn down bosses etc.

If this game was on rails like WoW and whatever else god awful modern mmos are still running, come on. killing the same shit for 15 years only works because sometimes it gets mixed up.

[Dajeeem]

DOT tick dmg text,
right click spell drop down menu w/ saved spell sets
in game mail system for item transfer
auction house
raid group ui
light blue cons
blue xp bar

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/LhzrYnH.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/d3i0qUm.gif

[sammoHung]

The game is perfect. The people playing the game suck.

[Ennewi]

Not so much QoL as fleshing out what was intended but left out for one reason or another.

More customizability because fashionquest > all else.

Additional face options. Also a rework of illusions for facial features to better match each other; certain ones are clearly modified versions of the same face type but only a few actually share a resemblance.

Improvements to NPC classes... Rogues that pickpocket coin, apply poisons, etc. Bards that play songs, including selos indoors. Mages that coth random allies to them in combat for help or out of combat to save their lives.

[Swish]

Project M included in the main game.

[onmove_broke]

I do think the Soulbinder is a good QoL change so melee can just bind in a city w/o having to find someone.

Rotating ZEM would be nice in order to shake up the status quo.

Coin not having weight w/o having to get that coin purse would be nice. More beneficial for lower level toons. Or maybe an earlier item that reduces coin weight by a %

Add in way more quests for armor/weapons etc. Can be added through Sol Ro or something

I know people do not like it but I think places like Fear/Hate should be instanced. Too many people fucking up epics by camping minis etc is just plain bad. Make it so you have to wait 24 hours or 48 hours to get in once you been there

[feniin]

Guild Management Tool is all we're missing.

[Wakanda]

I would like to explore ideas or ways to make the over-all leveling experience less pipe-lined. To try and mimic the original EQ experience. Make places like Permafrost, Runnyeye, Upper Guk, Dalnir etc. competitive with Unrest. Make Lake of Ill Omen a zone that's teeming with life and low level players running everywhere.

I can honestly think of several ways to do this too. When I'm playing WoW with my friends, we don't usually just run a random Mythic dungeon because we like that dungeon... we run it because someone has a key for it. You could give players a weekly potion that when used, grants their entire group experience for the next several hours, but can only be used in certain zones etc.

[Wakanda]

Single 12 slot backpack for inventory , allow a wrist pouch and belt pouch and that is it.

Immersion is broken visualizing an enchanter or rogue fighting with 8 backpacks on their body

My Enchanters never carry 8 backpacks. We don't really have the strength to carry that much stuff, and being encumbered as a squishy class that is habitually one charm break or root away from dying can be super scary. Also have all the clickies, and OT hammer etc.

[kjs86z2]

nocondomjoe admits he has 0 tink bags

[plonkster]

I would like to explore ideas or ways to make the over-all leveling experience less pipe-lined. To try and mimic the original EQ experience. Make places like Permafrost, Runnyeye, Upper Guk, Dalnir etc. competitive with Unrest. Make Lake of Ill Omen a zone that's teeming with life and low level players running everywhere.

I can honestly think of several ways to do this too. When I'm playing WoW with my friends, we don't usually just run a random Mythic dungeon because we like that dungeon... we run it because someone has a key for it. You could give players a weekly potion that when used, grants their entire group experience for the next several hours, but can only be used in certain zones etc.

A custom P99 server with WoW mythic key progression would be the best thing in the world since sliced bread. It will also never happen because it would require the admins to commit time and effort of cosmic scale.

[kjs86z2]

A custom P99 server with WoW mythic key progression would be the best thing in the world since sliced bread. It will also never happen because it would require the admins to commit time and effort of cosmic scale.

That would be pretty cool. Full 6 man teams racing from dungeon entrance to another point.

Unfortunately it would wind up just being 6x enchanter teams.

[kjs86z2]

Or you could just play Fellowship.

[onmove_broke]

I would like to explore ideas or ways to make the over-all leveling experience less pipe-lined. To try and mimic the original EQ experience. Make places like Permafrost, Runnyeye, Upper Guk, Dalnir etc. competitive with Unrest. Make Lake of Ill Omen a zone that's teeming with life and low level players running everywhere.

I can honestly think of several ways to do this too. When I'm playing WoW with my friends, we don't usually just run a random Mythic dungeon because we like that dungeon... we run it because someone has a key for it. You could give players a weekly potion that when used, grants their entire group experience for the next several hours, but can only be used in certain zones etc.

They need to remove indoor zone restrictions like no sow/harmo etc. Also dungeons are cramped unless you get to a spot like in SolA (I forgot the area but it is nice and open) Large races have big problems indoors. I kinda do not understand the design choice of places like SolA/B for trolls and ogres. They literally cannot get around. Maybe a questable shrink item at lv 10 would work...

[magnetaress]

ww3dkp

[Ella`Ella]

Thj

Fact.

[Duik]

Fact.

Thj fucked alot of things for alot of people.
Fact.

It is not the solution you are looking for.

[realsubtle]

better character art, perhaps inspired by the iconic box art from classic, kunark, and velious. absolutely no instancing or world shards or whatever the fuck modern theme park MMOs are doing. less fucky line of sight mechanics.

[onmove_broke]

Fact.

I worked for a company back in 2011. We were part of a pretty large company but was a subsidiary of it, so much of what we did flew under the radar when it came to special perks.

I remember one of the women telling me that they used to have a program where if you made a finalist round you would get like a $100 bonus and if you won the business you would get like $500. The VP would pay it right out of his own pocket too.

One of the new hires, some old woman grandma complained about it at some point to HR and they ended up axing that program.

It is pretty much what THJ did to the EMU community. We were flying under the radar until it came to light that THJ was profiting off their server kinda like D2JSP does with Forum gold.

So now we will probably not even get a new server or a merge now that DBG is looking closely at everything going on in the EMU community

[usmcjdking]

Key ring.

Materials bank would be lovely.

But key ring should be in this game. Want to explore to craft cool stuff, you need keys! Great now you can't even hold the fucking mats anymore because 25 keys.

[Ella`Ella]

I worked for a company back in 2011. We were part of a pretty large company but was a subsidiary of it, so much of what we did flew under the radar when it came to special perks.

I remember one of the women telling me that they used to have a program where if you made a finalist round you would get like a $100 bonus and if you won the business you would get like $500. The VP would pay it right out of his own pocket too.

One of the new hires, some old woman grandma complained about it at some point to HR and they ended up axing that program.

It is pretty much what THJ did to the EMU community. We were flying under the radar until it came to light that THJ was profiting off their server kinda like D2JSP does with Forum gold.

So now we will probably not even get a new server or a merge now that DBG is looking closely at everything going on in the EMU community

What does any of this have to do with QoL changes I would like to see in a remaster? THJ seemed to be exactly what I and 4500 other concurrent players were looking for. A population that the cumulative of p99 servers has never seen.

[Foxplay]

Keyring (LOL SKY, save bag space)
items stackable up to 100 , (again bag space)

Rechargeable item combine recipes + recharge merchant (Simply put have items that are APPROVED to be rechargeable for a set cost (Mana batteries) and a merchant other than sky, that sells a recharge box (that isn't consumed) and mana batteries. Items too powerful can remain non-rechargeable and remove the vendor recharge trick. Other rechargables that need to not be spammed can remain using the box of the void (that goes away after you combine)

[sammoHung]

So now we will probably not even get a new server or a merge now that DBG is looking closely at everything going on in the EMU community

And on top of that, if any new servers pop up they are limited to 800 players, or 400 players if they have custom content added.

Fuck those THJ grifters. Glad people enjoyed something that destroyed the freedom of EQEmu as a whole. Selfish pricks.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Keyring (LOL SKY, save bag space)
items stackable up to 100 , (again bag space)

Rechargeable item combine recipes + recharge merchant (Simply put have items that are APPROVED to be rechargeable for a set cost (Mana batteries) and a merchant other than sky, that sells a recharge box (that isn't consumed) and mana batteries. Items too powerful can remain non-rechargeable and remove the vendor recharge trick. Other rechargables that need to not be spammed can remain using the box of the void (that goes away after you combine)

The NPC's that do quest turn ins spawn and despawn.

If we want to restore a bit of sauce, all the rechargeables should come back in game, but the vendor NPC's that handle recharging can be AI Game Designed™ in a strategic and non-OP'ing way.

Rechargeables are fun and why not return all of them, and then AI Game Design™ how recharges work?

[BradZax]

Project M included in the main game.

would be cool if someone in the emu community went hard on a project m server

[Belambic]

Just bring back Rubicite.

[Reiwa]

Pitch: a server that is identical to p99 but before April 2015.

[Jimjam]

I think a bigger sock. Maybe a stocking would be best qol.

[wuanahto]

trim down the classes down to war, cleric, enchanter and rogue
warriors get skills to hold agro better
cleric can get the other priests quirks
enchanter can get a little more wizardy
rogue can learn monk stuff

[Crede]

Bring back dot damage text.
Druids get torpor and shamans get something like natures touch
Wizards get clarity line and aoe stun line from enchanters.
Nerf monk dps. Monks should not be heavy dmg dealers - they are monks

No other changes needed really rest is fine

[Crede]

Bring back dot damage text.
Druids get torpor and shamans get something like natures touch
Wizards get clarity line and aoe stun line from enchanters.
Nerf monk dps. Monks should not be heavy dmg dealers - they are monks.

That fixes the 3 broken classes and gives Druids / wiz a purpose in groups.

No other changes needed really rest is fine

[sammoHung]

druids getting torpor doesnt make any sense -- bears go into torpor not wolves

[branamil]

I'm fine with keeping the unforgiving nature of original EQ, but the UI / Client is trash.

There's no reason these crappy graphics should lag and crash so much. And so many creatures fall through the floor or walls.

As long is starts fast, runs smooth, it has modern mouse and keyboard commands, and doesn't have absurdly buggy glitches I think it would do well.

[Reiwa]

Druids get torpor and shamans get something like natures touch

Druids get a new spell - Natural Communion.

Your attunement with the natural world enables sharing your mana with others.

Single target buff, all spell costs split between linked characters. 4 minute cooldown, TBA duration.

[Jimjam]

I'm fine with keeping the unforgiving nature of original EQ, but the UI / Client is trash.

There's no reason these crappy graphics should lag and crash so much. And so many creatures fall through the floor or walls.

As long is starts fast, runs smooth, it has modern mouse and keyboard commands, and doesn't have absurdly buggy glitches I think it would do well.

I think a qol I would appreciate is some consistency in when you can / can’t perform certain actions. Like you can’t use a macro to bind wounds while inspecting a merchant inventory, but you can use a hotkey or button from the actions window to do so.

[Crede]

druids getting torpor doesnt make any sense -- bears go into torpor not wolves

it doesn't have to be called torpor. it's just too strong of a spell w/ the shaman toolkit.

[Infectious]

Project M included in the main game.

You were the worst enchanter on red. Wtf you going to do on a level 6 orc? Lol

[Duik]

druids getting torpor doesnt make any sense -- bears go into torpor not wolves

Can only cast torpor when bear companion is summoned. He communes with you offering you his shared experience.

[Jimjam]

Can only cast torpor when bear companion is summoned. He communes with you offering you his shared experience.

A bear guide would be called Tourpaw.

[Pootle]

A bear guide would be called Tourpaw.

LOL

Your skill in 'Dad Jokes' has increased.

[Duik]

A bear guide would be called Tourpaw.

Kudos my good man.

[sammoHung]

Kudos my good man.

For the longest time I've been trying to place your avatar. Is that Paul F. Tompkins?

[Pootle]

For the longest time I've been trying to place your avatar. Is that Paul F. Tompkins?

Its David Lister from Red Dwarf.

British SciFi comedy show.

[Pootle]

oh, and if you using Chrome, just right-click the picture and select [Search this image with Google Lens]

Bingo Bango the information is there...