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Ciderpress
12-17-2025, 01:27 PM
Have been on both sides of this issue, as the seller of an MQ and the buyer of an MQ. People load up quest npcs with the easy-to-get items (like velious armor gems), then as soon as somebody comes along to do an MQ the seller gets the reward and loses his MQ, and the buyer gets nothing. The buyer is then forced to totally stiff the seller, or pay them anyway for nothing. It's just an awful situation for both parties.

I know they've stated in the past they don't get involved with MQs that go wrong, but it does seem like a pretty clear example of defrauding other players. You just aren't defrauding a specific player, but you're certainly removing an item from somebody under false pretenses.

I'm of two minds about MQs in general, I can see the arguments for and against. At this point in the server's life though they are often the only way to ever get certain items, especially for people like me who have somewhat of a real life and can't sock dragons like I used to.

Ciderpress
12-17-2025, 01:28 PM
And before somebody mentions it, no killing quest NPCs does not clear their inventory. Quest items are stored in a separate database. The only way to clear their quest inventory is to complete the quest or a hard server reset.

Cecily
12-17-2025, 01:58 PM
Rip SS chain legs.

WarpathEQ
12-17-2025, 03:00 PM
Yeah SS chain legs and multiple Skargus heads down the drain here. The worst part is even if you're doing turn ins for your own toon if this issue occurs CSR won't provide any support because someone else prior to you turned in a portion of the quest you're completing and therefore they deem it as an MQ.

Definitely should be research and a system of warning/ban/account termination for anyone involved in doing this proactively by CSR.

kjs86z2
12-17-2025, 03:10 PM
you know theres sickos out there purposefully sabotaging the npcs

Ekco
12-17-2025, 03:14 PM
this has been an issue forever, personally i admire the gatekeeping hustle

it's all this person has left, the casual alamo

fuck yo leggings

Duik
12-17-2025, 04:26 PM
This is hilarious.

Its like the guy hates (the concept of) MQ soooo much that she will pop a few quest gems on various Quest NPCs. He goes off to a corner of Norrath the snicker to herself.

Coincidentally completing more MQs than anyone else in the game!

Also. Its prolly a GM/CSR preventing mudflation (too laaaate).

Hannibal
12-17-2025, 04:40 PM
Man, if it was a GM/CSR that would make my entire year. SCUMMY practice, should be bannable, but MQ's are really a sort of a grey area anywho. I don't think the devs should waste time on them, so I'd rather see no changes here.

In a PERFECT world though, it would be nice if you could hail an NPC and get a list of what they're holding. That would be just ACES.

Jimjam
12-17-2025, 04:40 PM
This sucks. Sorry to hear about not being able to buy pixels. Maybe they should just disable MQ and let people do their own quests.

Ciderpress
12-17-2025, 10:16 PM
This sucks. Sorry to hear about not being able to buy pixels. Maybe they should just disable MQ and let people do their own quests.

Hey I would prefer everything was done the way I remember it being done too, but those aren't the cards we're holding here. Emergent behavior requires emergent solutions and that's been the case since the game launched in 1999. There's nothing unclassic about reluctantly intervening when necessary.

Ciderpress
12-17-2025, 10:44 PM
Yeah SS chain legs and multiple Skargus heads down the drain here. The worst part is even if you're doing turn ins for your own toon if this issue occurs CSR won't provide any support because someone else prior to you turned in a portion of the quest you're completing and therefore they deem it as an MQ.

Yeah I forgot to mention that about self mqs. I do lots of MQs to myself on other toons (sounds sexual) but luckily it's only been botched once during a qeynos badge turn in.

OriginalContentGuy
12-17-2025, 10:52 PM
(sounds sexual)

Hey how do I increase the drop rate of your pants?

Ciderpress
12-25-2025, 07:38 PM
Hey how do I increase the drop rate of your pants?

I like southern comfort!

This would be super unclassic, granted, but it would make a nice compromise if there could just be a simple in game command that would list the quest items a targetted npc is holding. Then you could at least know the MQ isn't going to work and not lose it, but you'd still have to wait for a proper server reset or somebody else to finish the quest to proceed with getting the item.

Wakanda
12-26-2025, 05:17 AM
MQs aren't classic. I mean they are, but not at the scale we see them here. You should feel bad for making this thread!

Jimjam
12-26-2025, 07:41 AM
MQs aren't classic. I mean they are, but not at the scale we see them here. You should feel bad for making this thread!

I think it is important we consider it from the NPC's perspective. They are looking for a certain combination of items, and once they have received the last of those, they are in a state of immediate gratitude, so substantiate their thanks to whoever was able to return the final, so presumably most difficult to obtain, piece.