View Full Version : Did Illusionists stone get nerfed/removed
Tobius
11-25-2025, 08:23 AM
https://wiki.project1999.com/Illusionists_Stone
Is in the list of legacy items, but that stuffs removed items right, what happened to this? Is it a mistake, is it gone? Or did it used to be better and got nerfed?
Also does anyone know the recharge cost post the devs breaking recharges to be non classic?
This still drops, but the spawn mechanic takes a bit to learn. Recharge cost is very cheap. Usefulness is somewhat limited
Lambparade
11-26-2025, 08:52 PM
This makes me wanna farm this item to show off in my sky raid
Cecily
11-27-2025, 10:40 AM
It's for Fear raids.
Tobius
11-27-2025, 02:46 PM
It's for Fear raids.
What role does it play there?
Tobius
11-27-2025, 02:52 PM
This still drops, but the spawn mechanic takes a bit to learn. Recharge cost is very cheap. Usefulness is somewhat limited
You don't just hunt and kill the PH's?
Cecily
11-28-2025, 06:08 PM
What role does it play there?
Angering literally everyone in camp.
Lambparade
12-03-2025, 12:25 PM
I've been camping this for the last day and have not gotten Old Dimshimmer to spawn once. Cleared the PH discussed in the wiki. Maybe its just bad luck. I'll post back here if I ever see a spawn.
Tobius
12-08-2025, 04:59 AM
I've been camping this for the last day and have not gotten Old Dimshimmer to spawn once. Cleared the PH discussed in the wiki. Maybe its just bad luck. I'll post back here if I ever see a spawn.
Thanks, come to think of it, is there a way to search the patch notes all at once, ctrl f the mob or the item?
Lambparade
12-08-2025, 01:41 PM
I don't believe old dimshimmer doesn't spawn any more or that the item doesn't drop. I have had people they told me they saw him up recently. Multiple people. I've heard from guildmate druids that have seen this item and were aware of it. The last one was on the EC market in Feb 2025.
I have camped him for about 16 hours. Not one spawn. For the first 14 hours I farm all the hatching lings near the place holders. I also tried just sitting at 0,0 just clearing that section.
near hour 14 I started to believe the hatchlings aren't the place holders or there are more mobs in the spawn group.
I decided to take a look at https://www.takproject.net/allaclone/ datebase it shows more possible PH.
a_fae_drake (40%)
a_fae_drake_hatchling (20%)
a_mist_wolf (15%)
a_wasp_soldier (10%)
a_giant_spider (10%)
Old_Dimshimmer (5%)
I know the tak project is technically out of sync with p99... but its the closest open reliable date source.... considering its locked in Planes of Power era.
I got a little extra nerdy and spun up my own tak database and the data above matched.
I will find this item or my family won't have a Christmas.
Lambparade
12-08-2025, 02:00 PM
https://wiki.project1999.com/Illusionists_Stone
Is in the list of legacy items, but that stuffs removed items right, what happened to this? Is it a mistake, is it gone? Or did it used to be better and got nerfed?
Also does anyone know the recharge cost post the devs breaking recharges to be non classic?
At the top of the legacy item list:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Category:Legacy_Items
it says:
'Legacy items are items that were originally introduced to the game as normal items, but then (because the Verant developers realized that they were overly-powerful, or otherwise game-breaking), they were either changed to no longer drop or "nerfed" (ie. had their power lowered). '
So I don't think this item was removed but their could of been something nerfed about the effect.
Tobius
12-14-2025, 04:43 AM
I don't believe old dimshimmer doesn't spawn any more or that the item doesn't drop. I have had people they told me they saw him up recently. Multiple people. I've heard from guildmate druids that have seen this item and were aware of it. The last one was on the EC market in Feb 2025.
I have camped him for about 16 hours. Not one spawn. For the first 14 hours I farm all the hatching lings near the place holders. I also tried just sitting at 0,0 just clearing that section.
near hour 14 I started to believe the hatchlings aren't the place holders or there are more mobs in the spawn group.
I decided to take a look at https://www.takproject.net/allaclone/ datebase it shows more possible PH.
a_fae_drake (40%)
a_fae_drake_hatchling (20%)
a_mist_wolf (15%)
a_wasp_soldier (10%)
a_giant_spider (10%)
Old_Dimshimmer (5%)
I know the tak project is technically out of sync with p99... but its the closest open reliable date source.... considering its locked in Planes of Power era.
I got a little extra nerdy and spun up my own tak database and the data above matched.
I will find this item or my family won't have a Christmas.
Gods work mate shame my bard isn't high enough to highsun I could help ya.
flaris
12-22-2025, 12:35 PM
If it's useful, I can confirm that Old Dimshimmer was still spawning and dropping this (on Blue, at least) as of this summer. I killed him several times in the process of camping Braided Ivy Cords and items for the Tunare Symbols a few months back.
Tobius
12-28-2025, 12:57 PM
Im unsure why this and small scarab breastplate were on this list to begin with then but dont feel confident enough to take em off
Was curious - can confirm still spawns and drops stone as of today
[Sun Dec 28 09:40:23 2025] You have slain Old Dimshimmer!
[Sun Dec 28 09:40:23 2025] Your faction standing with Skytalons got worse.
[Sun Dec 28 09:40:26 2025] You receive 1 gold, 11 silver and 9 copper from the corpse.
[Sun Dec 28 09:40:28 2025] --You have looted a Bottle of Drake Breath.--
[Sun Dec 28 09:40:29 2025] --You have looted a Illusionists Stone.--
As for learning the underlying spawn mechanics - I can provide a hint that this is one of very few spawns that is unchanged from a stock eqemu install - and the tak project appears to have changed it.
Tobius
12-28-2025, 04:45 PM
Was curious - can confirm still spawns and drops stone as of today
Are you selling them or you have plans for them? I'd really like to know how the illusion compares to others for faction.
Like the barbarians don't like wolf form and the warriors/guards don't like earth elemental. I always wanted to get two of these and recharge them.
Tobius
12-28-2025, 05:04 PM
I'd be curious to know how tree form (ench and druid if different) affect the halas guards specifically.
bcbrown
12-28-2025, 07:05 PM
As a wood elf Tunare druid who I don't think has ever done anything to affect any barb faction, against Garn McMarrin I went from Dubiously to Apprehensively with treeform.
Tobius
12-28-2025, 07:35 PM
As a wood elf Tunare druid who I don't think has ever done anything to affect any barb faction, against Garn McMarrin I went from Dubiously to Apprehensively with treeform.
wow this might be the missing link then for faction questing the cities, places that hate wolf AND earth elemental can use this.
I know like Skelly form can benefit you more than wolf form for like outpost of FV.
it would be good to outline which cities are opened up by which illusions (unless FV/Barbs are the only ones)
I really need to get a pair of these.
wow this might be the missing link then for faction questing the cities, places that hate wolf AND earth elemental can use this.
I know like Skelly form can benefit you more than wolf form for like outpost of FV.
it would be good to outline which cities are opened up by which illusions (unless FV/Barbs are the only ones)
I really need to get a pair of these.
Just to clarify, you know you are rooted while in this illusion right? :p
bcbrown
12-29-2025, 01:06 AM
Just to clarify, you know you are rooted while in this illusion right? :p
Hahaha good point. Another interesting thing: someone was hailing me while I was porting out after testing the illusion, and I tried to duck my port so I could talk to them. Turns out you can't duck to cancel spells while in treeform. Also, you can have treeform and potg, but you can't (iirc) have spirit of oak and potg.
Tobius
12-29-2025, 02:55 AM
Just to clarify, you know you are rooted while in this illusion right? :p
Yeah handing in gnoll fangs for example would work if aggro change is instant.
I'd need wolf form, and probs the two npcs harmoed.
Unless id have to click off wolf to cast illusion and hand in lady kills me
Tobius
12-31-2025, 02:09 PM
As a wood elf Tunare druid who I don't think has ever done anything to affect any barb faction, against Garn McMarrin I went from Dubiously to Apprehensively with treeform.
That tracks only a small penalty for being a wood elf you were probs high dubious by default 900 more points benefit for an iksar who already did some factioning.
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