imagine

[Ekco]

getting in a camp dispute, in karnors, on a server with 200 people in the year of our lord 2025

https://i.imgur.com/nBZE9rb.png

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Verix Kylox was my last piece, Ekco. It was unfair and you know it. I've invested so much time, so, so much time. But no. Someone else wanted the piece too. "We have to be impartial" you said.

You might laugh but I play this game by blowing on a tube. So congratulations Ekco. You crushed the dreams of Cancer Boy last night.

[Ekco]

i'm just a humble war correspondent nuterual and uninvolved

i haven't zoned into karnors since getting VS staff this libel and slander regarding Verix will not stand, the dude does not abide

[wuanahto]

people laughed when keys stopped being required on live

look at where we are now

[Rygar]

What the hell am I missing in that screenshot? I see no angry dispute or name and shame details. 0/10 so far

[Ekco]

no it's the fact 4 human begins can't be in karnors without having to petition a GM about it, that's the joke my guy.

maybe i'm wrong but isn't there literally more camps than 4?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

no it's the fact 4 human begins can't be in karnors without having to petition a GM about it, that's the joke my guy.

maybe i'm wrong but isn't there literally more camps than 4?

Maybe there's more to you, Mr. "I love life because I'm free and easy."

[shovelquest]

Look we have to take what we can get when it comes to camp disputes on this server this day and age :p

[sammoHung]

I was grouped with a friend in Sol A on Green last week. In just 2 hours, we had to fend off 3 separate level 55+ toons that wanted to roll through our measly camp (pred / foreman) and clear all the spawns in zone.

I got exceptionally frustrated with one player because that camp is a DEAD END, and we (my friend, me and the 55+ toon) were the only 3 toons in the zone. I said, "hey, we are camping this spot" and he said, "which spawn?"

Bro fuck off. The whole zone was empty, and he came to the dead end route to steamroll through the 6 mobs we were camping.

Late stage p99 indeed

[Ekco]

see, thread is improving.

better than talking about THJ some more.

[loramin]

see, thread is improving.

better than talking about THJ some more.

Don't give Shovel any ideas ;)

[Wakanda]

I didn't even know Verix Kylox was that rare. Whenever I did a basement group on my Shaman I remember him spawning fairly frequently and people not even wanting the loot etc. I guess this was also during a time period where the basement was camped at all times and getting a group in that spot 50-60 was super common.

[Jimjam]

see, thread is improving.

better than talking about THJ some more.

I was fighting xp on an ice goblin at the zone in to perma and someone just came in and killed it mid fight. Needless to say I communicated “F U” (i.e situation was ‘fully understood’) and logged off for a while.

[WarpathEQ]

I didn't even know Verix Kylox was that rare. Whenever I did a basement group on my Shaman I remember him spawning fairly frequently and people not even wanting the loot etc. I guess this was also during a time period where the basement was camped at all times and getting a group in that spot 50-60 was super common.

He's not super rare but not common either and with the repop timer being 27 mins in the zone it can take many hours to get him to spawn. Have spent 10-12 hours there plenty of times just to see him.

Verix is probably the most contested thing outside of VS in the zone, which probably contributes to over half of all camp disputes on the server so its not surprising.

I've personally never had a petition/GM involved but I've absolutely been sniped multiple times and have sniped multiple verix's in return. Its a volatile fight and a lot of people go down there trying to solo it which can easily go sideways and result in death.

People (myself included) tend to get pretty fired up when they spend hours to spawn a named mob, finally get it, then die, and then someone else snipes it but that's all within the rules of the game so I just congratulate them and move on and explain to the people that I snipe that I've been in their shoes plenty of times too.

[sammoHung]

I just congratulate them and move on and explain to the people that I snipe that I've been in their shoes plenty of times too.

pretty reasonable. respectful and respectable. however, did you realize that the content on these servers is not going anywhere, and you could check for Verix every 27 minutes until the servers shut down?

not just verix, but any camp. and i totally get it - the thrill of "winning" is a big part of why a lot of us play here. but you could easily break the cycle and mindset of "snipe or be sniped" by giving a grace period after a wipe for the person to recover and try again. maybe 5 minutes before you give it a shot. especially on servers where the last new content drop was 4 years ago.

Otherwise, as I've seen, the server meta devolves into a shitty version of EQ where lawyer-questing and "um actually" become the normal, over camps that will respawn in less than 30 fuckin minutes, from now until infinity (for all intents and purposes). or raids for that matter.

these days, unless the person was a dick about it - id help the person recover, help them down Verix, and let them loot the medallion.

but i think i just play differently than most people - because while i enjoy winning - i also dont want to propagate the idea that lawyerquesting and generally being overly competitive on a dead server are worthwhile endeavors.

maybe its because even without a single character who has a single BiS item, I feel like I've seen and done it all on the server. the only reason i play these days to socialize with people who also enjoy my favorite game of all time.

what's more fun than "winning" a spawn or camp or loot is dragging a group of inexperienced casual players deep into a dungeon they've never seen before, and carrying them through the expedition. hearing players say "wow ive never been this deep in Dalnir before" or "20 years later i still find new areas that are so much fun". spreading love for EQ, not breeding hatred for it.

[sammoHung]

fwiw, as i said - being respectful about it is a good step in the right direction.

when new people come to p99 - they are excited to play the game... and then they get sniped, or get trained by a vindictive player, or have a bullshit camp dispute and then they leave and stop logging in. and the population gets smaller.

makes you think: one of the aspects made THJ successful was that there was none of that. there was no false sense of scarcity. people just logging in to enjoy EQ and do things they never were able to when they were 13 in 1999.

[Prismaticshop]

just merge it already sean

put blue out of its misery

[Duik]

Getting *loot* on THJ was like ya sisters easybake oven. Sure, she'd make you food all day but it was playdoh or rolled up cheese cloth.

[OriginalContentGuy]

Yeah loot on p99 is rough. Like your momma who's so rough she'll eat wrought iron and shit out a BMW.

[OriginalContentGuy]

Shitty Elf Racecars

[Duik]

How is THJ anyways? Still a loot piñata or a 404 piñata?

[kjs86z2]

T staff camped pls exit zone

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

He's not super rare but not common either and with the repop timer being 27 mins in the zone it can take many hours to get him to spawn. Have spent 10-12 hours there plenty of times just to see him.

Verix is probably the most contested thing outside of VS in the zone, which probably contributes to over half of all camp disputes on the server so its not surprising.

I've personally never had a petition/GM involved but I've absolutely been sniped multiple times and have sniped multiple verix's in return. Its a volatile fight and a lot of people go down there trying to solo it which can easily go sideways and result in death.

People (myself included) tend to get pretty fired up when they spend hours to spawn a named mob, finally get it, then die, and then someone else snipes it but that's all within the rules of the game so I just congratulate them and move on and explain to the people that I snipe that I've been in their shoes plenty of times too.

Some here understand that damn camp. Make sure all your medications are fully stocked and double dose the anti-angry German kid pills.

[Wakanda]

I was grouped with a friend in Sol A on Green last week. In just 2 hours, we had to fend off 3 separate level 55+ toons that wanted to roll through our measly camp (pred / foreman) and clear all the spawns in zone.

I got exceptionally frustrated with one player because that camp is a DEAD END, and we (my friend, me and the 55+ toon) were the only 3 toons in the zone. I said, "hey, we are camping this spot" and he said, "which spawn?"

Bro fuck off. The whole zone was empty, and he came to the dead end route to steamroll through the 6 mobs we were camping.

Late stage p99 indeed

That's not actually how the system works BTW. You probably could have reported the person and had a GM scold them, although I probably wouldn't waste their time with it. In indoor dungeons you aren't relegated to camping a single mob the way you are outdoors.

Maybe someone can explain it better than me, but from what I understand each number listed on the map here:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solusek%27s_Eye

Is a camp. If you are camping one of those numbers, the entire camp is yours etc.? This may be inaccurate though because I just looked at the pyramid in CT and they are listing it as one camp, but in reality I was in a group who got scolded for being at the top of the pyramid in CT and pulling the lizards from the lower half of the Pyramid.

But yeah either way I don't think a player can tell you you are limited to camping a single mob. But this is also a problem in Lower Guk. To me Lower Guk is one of the most fun leveling dungeons in EQ, but on P99 the rules are so strict that you really are extremely limited by the number of mobs you're allowed to pull, making it more of a solo / afk zone than a spot where low levels can go and really grind as a group etc. Kind of wish they would lift that for the first few months on a new server. Not to encourage stealing named mobs, but to encourage people going to supp room and pulling mobs from down below without fear of getting banned for encroaching on someone elses camps etc.

[JayDee]

Arguing and getting upset is a sign that someone cares. Which can be seen as a good thing depending on how you look at it.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

https://i.imgur.com/GH12gFg.gif