Funniest dick moves on Live

[onmove_broke]

I'll admit I was an asshole at times on live. I used to grab every single undead in SK and run them to KFC and train people. I would invis myself and run by people sitting and watch like 20 mobs train on someone.

I also used to grab all the SG in Oasis and run them to the shore. Fun times.

What was the biggest dick move you did on Live?

[shovelquest]

Banged your mom.

[wuanahto]

on live i used to beat the fuck out of sand giants in oasis to like 30% health
bard speed/invis song whos name i forget now because its been like 10 or 15 years
and just run around with the giant following me.

some of my favorite moments was trying to align myself with the pillars in the oasis to scare the fuck out of people

You know that pillar next to the gypsy camp? i would get the giant "behind" the pillar and book it to P1 to make it seem like its popping out of no where and just stand up the P1 pillar as it ran to me. watched players scatter. and when a player cried out for help i would goto the center of the zone and do a few laps in the water until said high level goes away. then i would sneak it into the ocean for some aquatic jumpscares

[Domo]

Ive put high level posion on rusty rapiers and daggers and gave them to orcs in nro and Commonlands. Then I watched noobs die.
To bad youtube was not a thing back then :/

[Cecily]

I don't think poison ever worked liked that. Why would you go on the Internet and just tell lies?

[Jimjam]

On Tallon Zek I set /surname Ld on my brother's rogue. Poor guy was constantly getting attacked by people going "Lol, this guy is LD, lets kill him!"

[Jimjam]

(LD meaning Link dead)

[Ekco]

>What was the biggest dick move you did on Live?

swapped out my SMR for a Oracle robe before joining a AM group in Lguk to say i needed it instead of rolling.

[Tethler]

I druid charmed the EC griffon and gave it sow and thorns and zoned it off when i was bored. Then zone back in an follow it around invis seeing how many people it killed. No escaping a sow'd griffon lol.

This one was a high school buddy. Back on the live servers during Kunark before item linking was added, you used to have to put items into the trade window to inspect them. He would ask people to look at their Wurmslayers, knowing they were giant items. After closing trade, if the person didnt have a giant capacity bag, the wurmslayer would drop on the ground and he'd quickly pick it up. Think he sold 4 or 5 in EC after stealing them from people. Same guy got guild kicked for selling a green scale in EC that his guild awarded him (he was a warrior).

[WarpathEQ]

Fungi tunic scam, someone got me with it (which is how I learned about it) and then I did it to a bunch of people.

Auction to sell your Fungi Tunic at a realistic but slightly below market price to get solid demand and eager buyers. Put your fungi tunic in the window, they put their plat in the window, wait til they confirm the trade. Then hit cancel instead of trade, act like it was an accident.

Open a new trade window, usually let them do it so the money goes in first. Toss a cloth tunic in there. Hit trade, they already confirmed it was a fungi tunic the first time so they hit trade and give you ~40k for a cloth tunic. Immediately log off to avoid conflict.

Think I did it 4-5 times successfully. Back on live staff was spread thin and slow to react so if someone petitioned it would just get lost in the queue and by the time they got to it you weren't online, then it went back to the back of the queue and forgotten about as more new petitions came in.

Eventually I got too bold and stopped logging off and a GM caught me online during a short queue. I ate a couple of days of ban and lost the plat from 1 transaction. I think I stopped after that because I shared an account with my brothers and they were pretty annoyed at the ban, didn't want to get a permanent one that lost their characters.

[nostalgiaquest]

My personal dickhead triumph was ninja looting a white scale off Gorenaire for my bard epic. Was the last thing I needed for months, and the guild I was in wasn't interested in doing Gore. I took my brother's old account he wasn't playing anymore and ran an Iskar from Cabilis all the way to DL and parked him near the zoneline where most guilds killed gore.

I waited until a school mate's guild was going to kill Gore. As soon as she went down I snuck in while the raid group was ressing and another naked iksar wouldn't look out of place. A good portion of the raid had died and I was able to take advantage of the chaos. Got my body positioned perfectly so I could sit inside the corpse without being seen. Then started spamming /loot hotkeys

I knew the guild leader would tell the raid not to open the corpse until he had a chance to be the first to see the loot, and if I remember right there wasn't any visible timer for when you could loot, just said you weren't allowed to yet.

I sat there hiding and spamming /loot until I got in. I saw the scale, looted it, and then camped out like my life depended on it.

Logged onto my bard and asked my school mate how the kill went and his response was "bad luck, no book or scale" and I'm like "awww bummer mate", all while jumping around in my bedroom excited as hell. Biggest adrenaline rush I ever felt playing the game lol, and somehow I had gotten away with it.

To be safe I waited a few weeks before transferring it over to my Bard. Still no heat and no one the wiser. Then made up some lame story to my guild about how I had bought it from an old player who was clearing out his account and wanted plat. And just like that, I had my Bard epic :D

This must have been in early 2001 (pre luclin) on the Prexus server, and the guild I stole from was Domus Divinae. Sorry guys!

[shovelquest]

God damn thats worse than anything Ive ever done in real life!

[onmove_broke]

Lots of these make what I did pretty tame lol! I mostly would KS etc as there were no rules really back in classic. I used to make tons of use of bad pathing and my druid, especially early on in CB. I used to train the entire castle and just DoT Dvinn. The entire zone would run from the entrance and and forth to where the elves are to turn in the screaming mace. If you went to the other side of the hill, the train would path all the way back to the entrance, and if you hopped back over, it would turn around and run all the way around the castle...picking up mobs as it moved.

We used to sell the daggers for like 100pp a piece and split the $$. Made good bank that way at like lv 18. Best part was nobody really knew why they were running. Once we killed dvinn we would loot and zone, leaving 30+ orcs smashing everyone on the way back.

[Naethyn]

Waiting for the day Sokaran Furyfists shows up here. https://forums.legacyofsteel.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19269&p=157221

[cd288]

My personal dickhead triumph was ninja looting a white scale off Gorenaire for my bard epic. Was the last thing I needed for months, and the guild I was in wasn't interested in doing Gore. I took my brother's old account he wasn't playing anymore and ran an Iskar from Cabilis all the way to DL and parked him near the zoneline where most guilds killed gore.

I waited until a school mate's guild was going to kill Gore. As soon as she went down I snuck in while the raid group was ressing and another naked iksar wouldn't look out of place. A good portion of the raid had died and I was able to take advantage of the chaos. Got my body positioned perfectly so I could sit inside the corpse without being seen. Then started spamming /loot hotkeys

I knew the guild leader would tell the raid not to open the corpse until he had a chance to be the first to see the loot, and if I remember right there wasn't any visible timer for when you could loot, just said you weren't allowed to yet.

I sat there hiding and spamming /loot until I got in. I saw the scale, looted it, and then camped out like my life depended on it.

Logged onto my bard and asked my school mate how the kill went and his response was "bad luck, no book or scale" and I'm like "awww bummer mate", all while jumping around in my bedroom excited as hell. Biggest adrenaline rush I ever felt playing the game lol, and somehow I had gotten away with it.

To be safe I waited a few weeks before transferring it over to my Bard. Still no heat and no one the wiser. Then made up some lame story to my guild about how I had bought it from an old player who was clearing out his account and wanted plat. And just like that, I had my Bard epic :D

This must have been in early 2001 (pre luclin) on the Prexus server, and the guild I stole from was Domus Divinae. Sorry guys!

This is a great one haha

Posting this guy's Reddit thread here. He has some good ones if I recall, from back when EQ mechanics were much more janky and things were getting figured out and then patched out. The super interesting story he has which I don't remember being a thing was NPCs being able to take their own faction hits.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gametales/comments/1cy607/everquest_old_stories_and_ama_by_popular_request/

[Reiwa]

A gnome warrior stole the quest scythe from my Grimrot I asked him for help with.

I'm the schlamozzle.

[Wakanda]

My friend group is the reason they added a box to the game asking if you are sure you want to drop an item on the ground. We would make gnomes and ask to see an item in trade window etc. Usually an item someone was wearing, that way when we saw it disappear from being equipped on them, we knew they had it on their cursor and were about to open trade with us and then we would move, and when the item dropped to the ground, we would pick it up and steal it. Remember you could also disarm players in duels and steal their weapon after it fell to the ground. Got an executioner axe this way back when they were a big deal.

I remember one of my friends binding someone we didn't like to the Plane of Hate during a huge pull, and the person had no idea. The next day he cast gate, ended up in PoHate and got stuck in an insane death loop, lost a ton of levels, never saw him again etc.

I feel like trains were pretty standard / classic. On P99 getting intentionally trained is pretty rare. On live getting trained was a normal part of the game for a multitude of reasons, but often times, for fun. I remember if I died because a guard was dead, I would create a level 1 character, and then pull all the gate guards to the person killing said guard so they would die etc.

I remember realizing elves are KOS in the evil part of Ak Anon, and luring elves there after they asked for directions to a specific location, and then offering to pull their corpse for them. After they consented me I would just steal all of their items.

And no, I'm nothing like this as an adult. People on EQ actually say they feel guilty because I don't loot much or even roll on coveted items. I was just an evil ass little kid, but it was made way worse because my friends and I fed off of each other's energy.

I could actually name a lot of other messed up things I did over the years, but I think people forget that people weren't as friendly on EQ in 1999-2003'ish. The game actually felt more like PVP than modern WoW does since groups were constantly fighting over content. I don't remember high level characters doing drive-by buffs, or giving lowbies free items etc. like they do on P99. I think the more hostile environment made us more callous towards other players because odds are most of us had been regularly trained, KS'd, player hated on etc.

[Wakanda]

Also IDK If yall remember this, but if you went linkdead, your character would turn into a killing machine. Whenever we got the exe axe, we loved challenging higher level players to duels and then typing /q once the duel started because the damage cap would be removed and suddenly your level 10 character is now wielding an exe axe like he's a level 50 npc. I really don't know if anyone remembers this, but this was so hilarious. There was no Discord back then, so I remember being on the phone with my friend asking what happened after I typed /q and them LOL'ing that my character just decimated a much higher level player.

[Cecily]

Ive put high level posion on rusty rapiers and daggers and gave them to orcs in nro and Commonlands. Then I watched noobs die.
To bad youtube was not a thing back then :/

You never clarified why you made this story up. Obviously you're aware that poison poisons your main hand slotif there's a piercing weapon equipped, correct? And it triggers on your first melee attack. Back on live, you could apply poison and then unequip your dagger and then punch something with poison. Obviously this wouldn't work if you passed the item to a mob, so I ask again:

Why are you lying on the Internet?

[Rygar]

Definitely cybered with a guy's wife when I was a hormone high 18yr old, he even caught one of my dirty tells on her screen and logged off in a panic in the middle of our raid, determined never to play again to face him (he also played EQ, both in our guild).

She emailed me that she explained it away (no idea how, it was a bad tell) and convinced me to log back on. He never said anything somehow.

Then a different gal I was into gave me her account info so I could corpse recover her toon. I knew this other guy was into her and he messaged her, I said something like "aww you're so cute, plz cyber with me ;)" and he jumped right in it, seemed like a total kid saying things like "don't worry I know how to find the tube" and shit like that, he ripped off 3 tells before I could finish my message that I wasn't her and was just kidding. I squelched his boner so hard and he never spoke to me again.

[cd288]

My friend group is the reason they added a box to the game asking if you are sure you want to drop an item on the ground. We would make gnomes and ask to see an item in trade window etc. Usually an item someone was wearing, that way when we saw it disappear from being equipped on them, we knew they had it on their cursor and were about to open trade with us and then we would move, and when the item dropped to the ground, we would pick it up and steal it.

RecondoJoe on your ban evasion account: Your small group isn't the reason SOE added this feature to the game lol. Not only were you not the only people doing this, but the main reason it was added was quite literally QOL for players lol.

The way this guy's mind works is boggling haha

[Meeper]

I could actually name a lot of other messed up things I did over the years, but I think people forget that people weren't as friendly on EQ in 1999-2003'ish. The game actually felt more like PVP than modern WoW does since groups were constantly fighting over content. I don't remember high level characters doing drive-by buffs, or giving lowbies free items etc. like they do on P99. I think the more hostile environment made us more callous towards other players because odds are most of us had been regularly trained, KS'd, player hated on etc.


That is a totally opposite experience to the one I had playing EQ during that time. My experience was that people were overall helpful and friendly, with only the occasional encounter with a dickhead.

[cd288]

That is a totally opposite experience to the one I had playing EQ during that time. My experience was that people were overall helpful and friendly, with only the occasional encounter with a dickhead.

Yup. Maybe not giving away free items as much, but that's because the servers weren't mudflated yet.

People were very helpful overall. And RecondoJoe always makes these statements that there was mass griefing everywhere, which wasn't the case in my experience whether as a player or as CSR in era.

[Jimjam]

. And RecondoJoe always makes these statements that there was mass griefing everywhere, which wasn't the case in my experience whether as a player or as CSR in era.

Projection 1999

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

What I did is in my sig. Back before there were raid chats, and if a raid was made up of non-guildies, people would use /shout for raid instructions.

During the early first Trakanon kills, I /shout WAVE ONE GO GO GO

And they apparently went. I was in disco grinding.

[kjs86z2]

RecondoJoe on your ban evasion account: Your small group isn't the reason SOE added this feature to the game lol. Not only were you not the only people doing this, but the main reason it was added was quite literally QOL for players lol.

The way this guy's mind works is boggling haha

nocondomjoe mad over paisley still

[shovelquest]

My friend group is the reason they added a box to the game asking if you are sure you want to drop an item on the ground. We would make gnomes and ask to see an item in trade window etc. Usually an item someone was wearing, that way when we saw it disappear from being equipped on them, we knew they had it on their cursor and were about to open trade with us and then we would move, and when the item dropped to the ground, we would pick it up and steal it.

lol damn gnomes.

[loramin]

And RecondoJoe always makes these statements that there was mass griefing everywhere, which wasn't the case in my experience whether as a player or as CSR in era.

Well, from the sound of it there was griefing everywhere he went ... because he was doing the griefing ;) And this was my experience on live also: overall everyone was helpful and friendly, but (just like anywhere IRL) there were a few loser sociopaths having fun by trying to ruin everyone else's.

I think this was even more true for the PvPers; a griefer I knew (IRL) would use any exploit he could to get a kill on whichever Zek he played on (I forget which, but I want to say Rallos?). However, on the "Blue" servers, the troublemakers usually got put in their place by the GMs before bothering folks too much.

[Toncilek]

When my server was down I made a new char on other servers and pulled Rinna the GM cleric to Nro. Killing all the evil mules in EC when she pathed back. stupid but fun times

[tycohunden]

I once joined Drelzna group in Najena, basically no chance of getting Jboots 6th in line.
Then right before D died she stunned me and I was spinning so I tried to counterspin and clicked the corpse, which had J boots on it. Quickly realized this was my only shot and bagged em, quickly departed afterwards.
Ran around in butcherblock like a king spamming my new boots then logged out.
Came back to read a patch note:
A loot notice had been implemented so group could see everything that was looted and Jboots was now a quest.
That and just an ungodly amount of kill stealing, usually from whole groups until they changed that too. The power of Wizards were clearly too much for 14 year old me....

[Ephirith]

My friend group is the reason they added a box to the game asking if you are sure you want to drop an item on the ground. We would make gnomes and ask to see an item in trade window etc. Usually an item someone was wearing, that way when we saw it disappear from being equipped on them, we knew they had it on their cursor and were about to open trade with us and then we would move, and when the item dropped to the ground, we would pick it up and steal it. Remember you could also disarm players in duels and steal their weapon after it fell to the ground. Got an executioner axe this way back when they were a big deal.

Reminds me of the old dropping cash on a torch big (feature?), where if you had the cash on your cursor and clicked a torch or brazier, you wouldn't get the confirmation box and it'd just drop to the ground. And it got used to rob people :D

[Wakanda]

i know a lot of people claim that eq wasnt a toxic experience, but ive also seen a lot of people say similar things on here and on reddit lol

i had great experiences, im still friends with some of the people i met on EQ in 1999...

but it definitely felt like a hostile environment

i have a lot of wow friends who ask me about eq and talk about how they prob wouldnt like it because there was no pvp... bro the pve in eq was the pvp. people were constantly being cutthroat and fighting over camps or items. in wow pvp doesnt even feel personal, someone might kill you and then you chit chat with them afterwards and become friends.

in eq it felt like other groups were constantly training you or steal your mobs. and things got really hostile. we had blacklists for a reason.

i think its a wild larp to pretend it didnt exist because i saw the same type of behavior frequently on p99 green. on 3 different occasions when green was new i had a gm show up because of groups trying to steal each others camps (pyramid area in CT was really bad for this, but also a lot of groups in UR stealing mobs from fireplace, high levels skipping passed basement groups to try and get dwarven work boots etc).

this problem was hella worse in 1999, especially on my server. i played on the most populated server in the entire game, they tried to split it twice but it didn't work. i actually went with the original split but it sucked so bad (drinal felt dead) that i went back to tunare and leveled a new character all over again.

also you still see these same problems on TLPs. TLPs have a lot of nice players, ive had complete strangers spend real life money to use a potion to give me an exp bonus on multiple occasions, have made friends on TLP, but without the PNP, KS'ing and sniping is the meta. That's because it always was, lol. Nothing has really changed.

[Wakanda]

actually i forgot a GM had to show up in mistmoore once too. I was camping dhamp with an entire group. i saw a corpse there, and realized the person was online. i asked our cleric to resurrect him because i knew how hard it would be for him to get his corpse. we rez him, heal him up etc. and then we step out from the little area dhamp is in and start killing the mobs in that garden area.... suddenly the guy we rezzed claims dhamp camp is his because we left the camp (were like 10 feet away).... people start getting heated, and are like no, this is our camp SO HE CALLS THE GM'S ON US. keep in mind he's only even alive in the zone because we went out of our way to rez him etc.

Before the GMs even get there, dhamp spawns, harm touches and kills him almost instantly. He still is arguing with me through /tells that the camp is his etc.

Never met someone that autistic before.

[Reiwa]

i know a lot of people claim that eq wasnt a toxic experience, but ive also seen a lot of people say similar things on here and on reddit lol

i had great experiences, im still friends with some of the people i met on EQ in 1999...

but it definitely felt like a hostile environment

i have a lot of wow friends who ask me about eq and talk about how they prob wouldnt like it because there was no pvp... bro the pve in eq was the pvp. people were constantly being cutthroat and fighting over camps or items. in wow pvp doesnt even feel personal, someone might kill you and then you chit chat with them afterwards and become friends.

in eq it felt like other groups were constantly training you or steal your mobs. and things got really hostile. we had blacklists for a reason.

i think its a wild larp to pretend it didnt exist because i saw the same type of behavior frequently on p99 green. on 3 different occasions when green was new i had a gm show up because of groups trying to steal each others camps (pyramid area in CT was really bad for this, but also a lot of groups in UR stealing mobs from fireplace, high levels skipping passed basement groups to try and get dwarven work boots etc).

this problem was hella worse in 1999, especially on my server. i played on the most populated server in the entire game, they tried to split it twice but it didn't work. i actually went with the original split but it sucked so bad (drinal felt dead) that i went back to tunare and leveled a new character all over again.

also you still see these same problems on TLPs. TLPs have a lot of nice players, ive had complete strangers spend real life money to use a potion to give me an exp bonus on multiple occasions, have made friends on TLP, but without the PNP, KS'ing and sniping is the meta. That's because it always was, lol. Nothing has really changed.

The elitism of live EQ was a different animal than what we have on the emu servers.

[Jimjam]

The elitism of live EQ was a different animal than what we have on the emu servers.

The guilds would rather be very exclusive on who they invite and be limited on what/when they could raid rather than have a raid force ready to go 24/7. Seeing as how much more often bosses would stay up I feel this elite attempt to ringfence pixels cost them more than it benefited.

[Wakanda]

The guilds would rather be very exclusive on who they invite and be limited on what/when they could raid rather than have a raid force ready to go 24/7. Seeing as how much more often bosses would stay up I feel this elite attempt to ringfence pixels cost them more than it benefited.

I think also that people just had no clue how to do kill some mobs. I remember when someone finally killed venril sathir... i legitimately couldnt believe it. on my server that dude was up all of the time and getting trained to the zone in KC. Same with trakanon. in 2025 its not a mystery or puzzle how to kill either of these mobs. back in the day though people could have the numbers and would still get rekt by them.

also i remember it beign the meta to run through dreadlands and get killed by gorenaire, similar to how faydedar haunted the oceans. i dont think its that guilds werent big enough, they just werent organized or educated enough on how to deal with these types of mobs etc.

i dont disagree with what you said though, i remember how ridiculous guilds could be back in the day, and a lot of times the people in their guild weren't even good at their class or the game, but for whatever reason, were part of said guild etc.

again, i actually saw this on p99 green when it launched... had an enchanter friend who was obsessed with trying to get into seal team. was rejected. meanwhile due to a shortage of SKs and Rogues, I saw some of the worst people in the game.... players I actually shadow banned from my groups... joining seal team lmao.

[Jimjam]

VS is one of those few bosses in EQ where operation human wave is massively detrimental to success. It's one of my favourite fights due to this - small coordinated strike force does best.... even though I do love the concept of 200 people rushing dragons too! The devs did really well with the vibe and execution of the VS fight. More like an assassination of a top target than a battle.

[cd288]

I love how RecondoJoe acts like there is such a thing as being bad in a group on P99 for an SK or a Rogue lol

[Jimjam]

I love how RecondoJoe acts like there is such a thing as being bad in a group on P99 for an SK or a Rogue lol

I like casting IVU on the enchanter.

[cd288]

I like casting IVU on the enchanter.

lol

[shovelquest]

VS is one of those few bosses in EQ where operation human wave is massively detrimental to success. It's one of my favourite fights due to this - small coordinated strike force does best.... even though I do love the concept of 200 people rushing dragons too! The devs did really well with the vibe and execution of the VS fight. More like an assassination of a top target than a battle.

Took me like 12 VS raids to ever even find VS. :cool:

[Cecily]

Got my wizard epic from a 6-man 3 AM VS. That was pretty fun.

[Wakanda]

I love how RecondoJoe acts like there is such a thing as being bad in a group on P99 for an SK or a Rogue lol

SK pulled the entire zone of CT to the top of the pyramid, feign deathed and let the group die and began shit talking the group as we're dying and he lay there in FD that the pull of 30+ mobs is somehow our fault. I gave him a free pass the first time. When we recovered our bodies and got our camp set up, it happened again 20 minutes later. Decided I can't play with this person anymore because I'm losing too much experience.

Rogue used an SBD, which isn't really toxic, but he kept pulling aggro and was causing me to go completely OOM at fireplace in UR. Our group was actually sitting at like 80% mana before he joined, so we somehow got worse by having him in the group. Was this enough to get him canceled?

Nope. A few weeks later, someone told me they found a rogue to join our group at Kobold Royals. After waiting for an hour I ask for the name of the Rogue so I can message him to see if he's really coming. Same Rogue. He's sitting in West Commons, saying he can't come to Sol B until he finds a teleport to Lavastorm or Nektulos forest. He could have easily ran there in like 5 minutes, no exaggeration.

Dude finally shows up 2 hours late, and refuses to pull. We have an ogre warrior who can't pull due to lack of shrink. The entire reason they were looking for a melee dps was so we would have a puller. I ended up having to pull for the group as the Cleric. And this is true classic. You run into mana issues really fast even if you're sitting there meditating. While this same rogue we just spent hours waiting on is sitting there twiddling his thumbs.

After both of those experiences I decided I don't want to play with him anymore. I could add almost any other player to my group and have a positive experience. BTW I still know his name and he still plays. Ironically I ran into the same player on his Enchanter and he was a really nice person. I'm not saying he's a bad guy or anything, but when his Rogue is in my group, the experiences have been so bad that I don't want to play with him anymore.

I'm not an elitist either, I regularly insist we invite players to our group even if we don't need them and it means we will be getting less experience. But those are 2 out of the 3 players I remember grouping with and the experience being so toxic I don't want to play with them anymore. It's extremely rare for that to happen on a community like P99.

[Wakanda]

I like casting IVU on the enchanter.

if you really want to rile them buff the magic resist on they pet.

[Jimjam]

if you really want to rile them buff the magic resist on they pet.

This is why I come to the forums - to learn.

[cd288]

SK pulled the entire zone of CT to the top of the pyramid, feign deathed and let the group die and began shit talking the group as we're dying and he lay there in FD that the pull of 30+ mobs is somehow our fault. I gave him a free pass the first time. When we recovered our bodies and got our camp set up, it happened again 20 minutes later. Decided I can't play with this person anymore because I'm losing too much experience.

Rogue used an SBD, which isn't really toxic, but he kept pulling aggro and was causing me to go completely OOM at fireplace in UR. Our group was actually sitting at like 80% mana before he joined, so we somehow got worse by having him in the group. Was this enough to get him canceled?

Nope. A few weeks later, someone told me they found a rogue to join our group at Kobold Royals. After waiting for an hour I ask for the name of the Rogue so I can message him to see if he's really coming. Same Rogue. He's sitting in West Commons, saying he can't come to Sol B until he finds a teleport to Lavastorm or Nektulos forest. He could have easily ran there in like 5 minutes, no exaggeration.

Dude finally shows up 2 hours late, and refuses to pull. We have an ogre warrior who can't pull due to lack of shrink. The entire reason they were looking for a melee dps was so we would have a puller. I ended up having to pull for the group as the Cleric. And this is true classic. You run into mana issues really fast even if you're sitting there meditating. While this same rogue we just spent hours waiting on is sitting there twiddling his thumbs.

After both of those experiences I decided I don't want to play with him anymore. I could add almost any other player to my group and have a positive experience. BTW I still know his name and he still plays. Ironically I ran into the same player on his Enchanter and he was a really nice person. I'm not saying he's a bad guy or anything, but when his Rogue is in my group, the experiences have been so bad that I don't want to play with him anymore.

I'm not an elitist either, I regularly insist we invite players to our group even if we don't need them and it means we will be getting less experience. But those are 2 out of the 3 players I remember grouping with and the experience being so toxic I don't want to play with them anymore. It's extremely rare for that to happen on a community like P99.

Those people aren't "bad" (read: unskilled/unknowledgeable) players, they're assholes. There's a difference.

Given that it happened multiple times, the SK was probably intentionally training you guys for fun under the cover of a bad pull.

[Cecily]

This is why I come to the forums - to learn.

Tell them you gave their pet a pair of +13 MR rings. Doesn't matter if you did or not.

[loramin]

Those people aren't "bad" (read: unskilled/unknowledgeable) players, they're assholes. There's a difference.

Given that it happened multiple times, the SK was probably intentionally training you guys for fun under the cover of a bad pull.

... if any of his story is even true. This is RecondoJoe/Wakanda/fifty other sock puppet accoutns talking.

[Wakanda]

Those people aren't "bad" (read: unskilled/unknowledgeable) players, they're assholes. There's a difference.

Given that it happened multiple times, the SK was probably intentionally training you guys for fun under the cover of a bad pull.

IDK, I think I would consider them bad. I think the Rogue said he didn't know Sol B and thus, couldn't even attempt to pull etc. I can't remember what his reasoning was. At the same time I've seen his Enchanter solo'ing some pretty dangerous stuff, in dangerous areas of the game, so it's hard to know.

I also think that the SK had a reputation, IE. when I complained about him wiping the group two times in a row with ridiculous shenanigans, other people pointed out that he always does this etc.

Just felt surreal to see people I considered fairly skilled / favored people to group with get rejected by Seal Team, and then see these types of people get in. But at the same time Seal Team's website was talking about how they had a shortage of SK and Rogues, so I think they actually just lowered the standards for these people etc.

[Wakanda]

... if any of his story is even true. This is RecondoJoe/Wakanda/fifty other sock puppet accoutns talking.

It's a true story. Those actually are ... some of the only instances where a player triggered me enough by my group experience with them that I still remember them years later. There was other people who were blatant boxers and what not. I remember avoiding them out of fear I could get in trouble etc. I didn't really know how to use OBS or Twitch back then, but if there's ever another new version of P99 I plan on streaming the entire time just so I have recordings of the cheaters, because some of it was pretty blatant.

Also I'm not a smurf account. I have at least 3 high level characters on this account, but a lot of times I like to spread my characters out on other accounts because in my experience it's faster to swap characters that way. Also I've never been banned before, but I know someone who got banned, and then continued playing on their other account like nothing even happened etc. So it could be an extra layer of security, but I don't really get in trouble on P99. Pretty rare for me to even group with another player these days :-\

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Does anyone remember the Asian guilds during classic?

They would take the silliest names and in general, not give a fuck about chaos events wherever they went. Over time they all got banned.

Dragons of Asia was a big one on Quellious. But these were not normal players. Of course, what's normal? Exactly. Thre isn't any normal.

I miss the circus days, and part of that was the international player base. My best guild leader was this rich guy from Pakistan who I think just did a shitton of meth. Biffins, was his name I believe.

[onmove_broke]

That is a totally opposite experience to the one I had playing EQ during that time. My experience was that people were overall helpful and friendly, with only the occasional encounter with a dickhead.

I know a few people I played with and others that got black listed for KSing, taking camps etc. That was one of the things I liked about old school live is that you could actually Roleplay an "evil" character by doing stupid shit to others like training, KSing etc. without a GM shitting the place up with rules.

[Naethyn]

If Flowers of Happiness ever finds us….

[onmove_broke]

Does anyone remember the Asian guilds during classic?

They would take the silliest names and in general, not give a fuck about chaos events wherever they went. Over time they all got banned.

Dragons of Asia was a big one on Quellious. But these were not normal players. Of course, what's normal? Exactly. Thre isn't any normal.

I miss the circus days, and part of that was the international player base. My best guild leader was this rich guy from Pakistan who I think just did a shitton of meth. Biffins, was his name I believe.

Wow...You played on Quellious? Holy shit I remember Dragons of Asia. I sold a swarmcaller to a ranger who was in their guild. He gave me a Sarnak Battle Shield and like 8k pp. I played a druid named Prhyme Tyme

[shovelquest]

good name

[Sirban]

I exploited a bug and tricked people into dropping their gear on the ground.
I would then snag that shit.
Soon they made it so your cursor can hold infinite items

[Wakanda]

Does anyone remember the Asian guilds during classic?

They would take the silliest names and in general, not give a fuck about chaos events wherever they went. Over time they all got banned.

Dragons of Asia was a big one on Quellious. But these were not normal players. Of course, what's normal? Exactly. Thre isn't any normal.

I miss the circus days, and part of that was the international player base. My best guild leader was this rich guy from Pakistan who I think just did a shitton of meth. Biffins, was his name I believe.Tunare had a guild called <Star> that was really shaking things up. Top guilds like Talisman were completely shook when they logged in and all of the mobs in the Plane of Hate were dead etc.

Tunare at the same time was a weird guild because it didn't feel like you had to be in a guild, but obviously there was at least one established guild during classic who was ahead of us all.

[Wakanda]

Tunare had a guild called <Star> that was really shaking things up. Top guilds like Talisman were completely shook when they logged in and all of the mobs in the Plane of Hate were dead etc.

Tunare at the same time was a weird guild because it didn't feel like you had to be in a guild, but obviously there was at least one established guild during classic who was ahead of us all.

But yeah, Star was a China guild. Some dude ended up fall in love with a member and marrying them despite a huge language barrier. Would be curious what ever happened with those two honestly.

[cd288]

It's a true story. Those actually are ... some of the only instances where a player triggered me enough by my group experience with them that I still remember them years later. There was other people who were blatant boxers and what not. I remember avoiding them out of fear I could get in trouble etc. I didn't really know how to use OBS or Twitch back then, but if there's ever another new version of P99 I plan on streaming the entire time just so I have recordings of the cheaters, because some of it was pretty blatant.

Also I'm not a smurf account. I have at least 3 high level characters on this account, but a lot of times I like to spread my characters out on other accounts because in my experience it's faster to swap characters that way. Also I've never been banned before, but I know someone who got banned, and then continued playing on their other account like nothing even happened etc. So it could be an extra layer of security, but I don't really get in trouble on P99. Pretty rare for me to even group with another player these days :-\

Ok RecondoJoe. I still remember when you recorded yourself deleting your character and ranted about how you were leaving an never coming back yet here you are

[Wakanda]

ok "cd288"

[nostalgiaquest]

Does anyone remember the Asian guilds during classic?

They would take the silliest names and in general, not give a fuck about chaos events wherever they went. Over time they all got banned.

Dragons of Asia was a big one on Quellious. But these were not normal players. Of course, what's normal? Exactly. Thre isn't any normal.

I miss the circus days, and part of that was the international player base. My best guild leader was this rich guy from Pakistan who I think just did a shitton of meth. Biffins, was his name I believe.

The first raid guild I join was a Korean guild on the Prexus server called "Souls of Mir". It was great because I'd get home from school at like 4pm and the raid was already started and clearing trash. Raid would wrap up around 8-9pm and i'd get a good night's sleep before school the next day. And I was popular in the guild cuz I was the crazy american.

[Penish]

remember when you could drop gold, peppridge farm remembers

[cd288]

ok "cd288"

Odd response to put my name in caps as though it's a ban evasion account like yours. Never been banned and my join date was 7 years ago.

What ban are you on now? Like 3 or 4? Maybe 5?

And got all pissy at the staff and said you were never coming back, yet here you are crawling back to the server lol

[cd288]

In quotes*

[shovelquest]

rallos zek had <Peace of Formosa>

They were such dicks, and dominated everything when they appeared lol

They always sayd la~ at the end of everything an they would never answer your questions

"Hi im LFG got any room?"
"I play this game for 2 weeks already beat it la~"

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

gan la~

[Ciderpress]

Intentionally telling people incorrect respawn times for the glacier bear placeholders in everfrost for totemic helm. They'd show up, not see anything, and think "shucks somebody else must have gotten it".

Also training people in dreadlands by getting a bunch of mobs and then running to KC really high in the air using lev with the mobs trailing, and nobody who got trained had any idea who did it. It's like training with invis, without the risk of somebody having see invis on.

[Ciderpress]

Prior to eq I came from playing UO, which was the ultimate playground for a griefer 13 year old prior to the felucia \ trammel split, but in EQ you had to get more creative.

[Wakanda]

Odd response to put my name in caps as though it's a ban evasion account like yours. Never been banned and my join date was 7 years ago.

What ban are you on now? Like 3 or 4? Maybe 5?

And got all pissy at the staff and said you were never coming back, yet here you are crawling back to the server lol

again, i literally have no clue what youre talking about
youve been harassing me for months, and i have zero clue who you are, but frequently see you going from thread to thread harassing other people too.

ive legitimately never been banned from p99 or even had a warning. ive actually never even gotten into a fight with another player on this game and mostly have had positive experiences :eek:

unfortunately i dont even really play p99 anymore, but love to discuss everquest with people

ill prob log in for the xmas bonus and not again until july 4th :eek:

you have this weird obsession that im someone im not and im going around and getting banned and causing all this trouble for people and in reality im almost always logged into WoW

https://i.ibb.co/xqK03pqC/lom-rez.png

whatever enemy you think you have, or whoever wronged you, they aren't me and i would genuinely appreciate it if you left me alone. i dont follow you from thread to thread harassing you even though youre extremely obnoxious and annoying. please return that favor in kind.

[Xer0]

My friend group is the reason they added a box to the game asking if you are sure you want to drop an item on the ground. We would make gnomes and ask to see an item in trade window etc. Usually an item someone was wearing, that way when we saw it disappear from being equipped on them, we knew they had it on their cursor and were about to open trade with us and then we would move, and when the item dropped to the ground, we would pick it up and steal it. Remember you could also disarm players in duels and steal their weapon after it fell to the ground. Got an executioner axe this way back when they were a big deal.

I remember one of my friends binding someone we didn't like to the Plane of Hate during a huge pull, and the person had no idea. The next day he cast gate, ended up in PoHate and got stuck in an insane death loop, lost a ton of levels, never saw him again etc.

I feel like trains were pretty standard / classic. On P99 getting intentionally trained is pretty rare. On live getting trained was a normal part of the game for a multitude of reasons, but often times, for fun. I remember if I died because a guard was dead, I would create a level 1 character, and then pull all the gate guards to the person killing said guard so they would die etc.

I remember realizing elves are KOS in the evil part of Ak Anon, and luring elves there after they asked for directions to a specific location, and then offering to pull their corpse for them. After they consented me I would just steal all of their items.

And no, I'm nothing like this as an adult. People on EQ actually say they feel guilty because I don't loot much or even roll on coveted items. I was just an evil ass little kid, but it was made way worse because my friends and I fed off of each other's energy.

I could actually name a lot of other messed up things I did over the years, but I think people forget that people weren't as friendly on EQ in 1999-2003'ish. The game actually felt more like PVP than modern WoW does since groups were constantly fighting over content. I don't remember high level characters doing drive-by buffs, or giving lowbies free items etc. like they do on P99. I think the more hostile environment made us more callous towards other players because odds are most of us had been regularly trained, KS'd, player hated on etc.

I dont suppose you expect anyone to believe t hat, do you? I'm sure you guys probably exploited it. But it is almost a certainty you weren't the first to do so. It was probably a common issue

[Xer0]

in wow pvp doesnt even feel personal, someone might kill you and then you chit chat with them afterwards and become friends.


Unless things have changed THTA drastically since I've played (Legion was the last time I played I think?) then this is B.S. In WoW PVP is almost exclusively between factions (arena aside) and you literally cannot even speak the language of the opposing factions in game. Unless you're like "real-id" friends with someone who is playing on the opposing faction, there was just no means of communication.

That's why it was never personal. Becuase you couldn't talk or commuicate. ut that doesnt mean people werent brutal about it. You'd get camped, locked out of a quest region etc, for hours at a time sometimes.

And after several deaths you start having multiple minute delays on your resurrection. starts with no delay. Then a few seconds. then 30 seconds. then a minute. then 3 minutes. I cant remember if it went further than that. But it sucked.

[Reiwa]

https://i.ibb.co/xqK03pqC/lom-rez.png

If that's the inn I think it is on the server I think it is, you're in big trouble mister demon wings.

[Duik]

The first raid guild I join was a Korean guild on the Prexus server called "Souls of Mir". It was great because I'd get home from school at like 4pm and the raid was already started and clearing trash. Raid would wrap up around 8-9pm and i'd get a good night's sleep before school the next day. And I was popular in the guild cuz I was the crazy american.

On Prexus I was in Southern Armada the big guild that eventually did time and my IRL friends guild called An Sli Amach.
Our mage mate who started beforenall of us was in ELON.

[Wakanda]

Unless things have changed THTA drastically since I've played (Legion was the last time I played I think?) then this is B.S.
Things have changed drastically.

1) x-faction is a thing now. horde and alliance can be in the same guild as each other now. they can queue for content together, and easily speak with one another.

2) as an alliance player, most of the time I queue for PvP I end up getting placed on horde teams. I don't know why, but it's actually true.

3) Discord - this one is probably the main thing. Most WoW realms have super active Discord servers (think of all the P99 discord servers and then multiply it by 100). Because you have top players from both factions in the same Discord, friendships naturally form.

My closest friend on my current server is an Alliance Rogue... who also has a Horde Rogue who he logs onto to gank Alliance players for lulz - including me. Game is not divided at all when it comes to faction in 2025.

[Wakanda]

If that's the inn I think it is on the server I think it is, you're in big trouble mister demon wings.
no comment ngl :eek:

[Wakanda]

I dont suppose you expect anyone to believe t hat, do you? I'm sure you guys probably exploited it. But it is almost a certainty you weren't the first to do so. It was probably a common issue

I dont care if anyone believes it. You know what's funny is I had so many real life friends who played EQ, but haven't seen any of them in over 20 years. I have them added on facebook, but we don't talk regularly. If there's ever a real-life meet up, I do want to ask them if they remember doing all of that crazy stuff back in the day on EVERQUEST. I would never even mention to any of them that I play p99 in 2025 because it would be kind of embarrassing. Even though some of them were more into EQ than I was back in the day, I feel like they out-grew it before I did. IDK if any of them would still long for it the way I do. Most of them have wives and kids now etc.

[cd288]

I dont care if anyone believes it. You know what's funny is I had so many real life friends who played EQ, but haven't seen any of them in over 20 years. I have them added on facebook, but we don't talk regularly. If there's ever a real-life meet up, I do want to ask them if they remember doing all of that crazy stuff back in the day on EVERQUEST. I would never even mention to any of them that I play p99 in 2025 because it would be kind of embarrassing. Even though some of them were more into EQ than I was back in the day, I feel like they out-grew it before I did. IDK if any of them would still long for it the way I do. Most of them have wives and kids now etc.

Most nonsensical response from RecondoJoe

[boromn]

While not just me directly, this event is easily the worst thing I was ever involved in during live. Our guild (Veil of Shadows) had a feud with Strategeme. During PoP, RZ was the obvious bottleneck to getting into the elemental planes.

If I recall, Strategeme would often go and hold the place holders for the event with really no actual ability to down them and just sit there for long periods of time. Well, we said F that and decided to break their mez which in turn set off a couple hours long event of each guild training the other, eventually leading to the whole zone crashing and a whole bunch on non-guilded people getting really Fed over in the process.

Each guild had a "pocket GM" which were called in and made things crazier (I can't recall exactly but it was something with respawning mobs and such). In the end, both guilds got banned for a week since this was the culmination of other instances like this happening. Pretty sure one of the GM's got fired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dq2Yi4wjV0&list=PLcm0rCyW2Z0qs-SgPQfJEGXJhEQr3N7cJ