Level 46 is too low for Scout Charisa

[zelld52]

Cmon - level 46?! It's so damn easy to get to level 46. At least with level 55, it takes a little effort to get a toon to 55 - but there will be new rollers showing up daily with a level 46 requirement.

[cd288]

Didn't there used to be like no level requirement? Seems like an improvement

[Naethyn]

Can you imagine going 46 levels with no bracer?

[kjs86z2]

Cmon - level 46?! It's so damn easy to get to level 46. At least with level 55, it takes a little effort to get a toon to 55 - but there will be new rollers showing up daily with a level 46 requirement.

46 is the standard alt park level for access to tov

who levels beyond 46 with nearly full bis anymore?

[kjs86z2]

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[zelld52]

This video has it all

Level 19 with a surname
Getting people to roll early
Killed by the real scout
Crash on zone

[kjs86z2]

scoup chorizo

[zelld52]

Seriously though - what good is a level 46 going to do at the fight? The only class that could help would be a 46 cleric, that will go OOM after a few CHeals - because thats a tough fight against the captain.

So many people show up to that roll, and have NO IDEA how a dirty / clean tag mechanic works. One week I showed up to 6 rolls, and there were wipes on 4 of them.

It's bad enough as it is on Green - and it's about to get way worse.

[Naethyn]

Scout should have no level requirement outside of what the quest has. You should not be required to help either. Roll on pop if you win its yours. If you can do this for your level 5 you should be able to. The problem isn't level 46's showing up who can't contribute. The problem is a flawed player agreement that entices people to show up who can't do this event for themselves.

[loramin]

The Scout fight should be done by guilds and groups of friends ... just like it was on live (and just like everything else in the game).

Socialist pixels aren't classic.

[zelld52]

Scout should have no level requirement outside of what the quest has. You should not be required to help either. Roll on pop if you win its yours. If you can do this for your level 5 you should be able to. The problem isn't level 46's showing up who can't contribute. The problem is a flawed player agreement that entices people to show up who can't do this event for themselves.

Either there's an agreement that you have to help, and mimimum level

Or no agreement and its a DPS race

[zelld52]

Also though - the bracer is only very marginally better than a Silver Chitin Wristband until melees start getting more HP per point of stamina.

So why would you waste your time rolling on one for a level 5 toon, when you'll get only a marginally improved version of a copiously available droppable item?

[Naethyn]

Either there's an agreement that you have to help, and mimimum level

Or no agreement and its a DPS race

Why? If you win the roll the spawn is yours and that's it. Get your friends together and beat the event.

[Naethyn]

Also though - the bracer is only very marginally better than a Silver Chitin Wristband until melees start getting more HP per point of stamina.

So why would you waste your time rolling on one for a level 5 toon, when you'll get only a marginally improved version of a copiously available droppable item?

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Gladimir

I had bracer on this character at level 5. Before rolls you could just run up and turn in the quest. I also had a full set of SS gear, yelinak talisman, and craslith. The server is big enough to support all play styles and if someone wants to super twink to the extreme they should be able to.

[Ennewi]

The general idea isn't bad, but it comes years after the fact, too the point of being needless, much like the restriction on bards kiting indoors. The time to consider a scout level requirement came and went after the early years of SoV, when 46+ characters were still gearing and competition for lesser mobs remained. Now, most every main and alt on blue has at least one scout reward or better. Raid geared alts are what keep the xp zones populated, even if that's accomplished through soloing/duoing.

[Goregasmic]

The general idea isn't bad, but it comes years after the fact, too the point of being needless, much like the restriction on bards kiting indoors.

I'd wager at this point if they even bothered it is most likely because it was a fair number of petitions still.

[Jimjam]

The captain is easily tankable on a level 46, honestly a small raid of 46s should be able to handle the encounter so I see no valid reason why they should be gatekept from a level appropriate (in terms of attainability) item.

[Jimjam]

The captain is easily tankable on a level 46, honestly a small raid of 46s should be able to handle the encounter so I see no valid reason why they should be gatekept from a level appropriate (in terms of attainability) item.

Actually, I may have been thinking 52 - I have definitely done it on SK and Warrior at these levels, but it was so trivial, it may be doable earlier as above, though I can't even recall if I have actually done it. I think I did on my green war though.

[Cecily]

I can't believe you guys are still doing commie scoufs. I liked it when people would win and sell it for 15k. And then you could go live your life on a regular timer. That rotating 10 hour window was impossible to keep up with in my experience. This and Spirit Wracked made these servers uniquely awful to play on.

[kjs86z2]

Socialist pixels aren't classic.

So whats your take on draft weeks and bag limits?

[Ennewi]

IIRC Whisperwing handed over shrine keys initially, to avoid a bottleneck and resulting disputes/petitions.

Game's also free, with unlimited accounts, instead of $9.89/mo.

[Goregasmic]

I can't believe you guys are still doing commie scoufs. I liked it when people would win and sell it for 15k. And then you could go live your life on a regular timer. That rotating 10 hour window was impossible to keep up with in my experience. This and Spirit Wracked made these servers uniquely awful to play on.

Sometimes you can just skip the hassle and settle for second best in slot.

[zelld52]

The captain is easily tankable on a level 46, honestly a small raid of 46s should be able to handle the encounter so I see no valid reason why they should be gatekept from a level appropriate (in terms of attainability) item.

Well yeah - if you win the roll and you can gather your own force - who cares what level... But that's not how scout has typically worked on Green. Typically it's a rag-tag group of level 55-60s that can barely handle the kill as is.

[loramin]

So whats your take on draft weeks and bag limits?

Unclassic of course.

But the difference is, they're an unclassic solution to an unclassic problem (we've got a much more top-heavy and active-raider server than live ever had). Scout is just needlessly unclassic server self-own.

[kjs86z2]

Unclassic of course.

But the difference is, they're an unclassic solution to an unclassic problem (we've got a much more top-heavy and active-raider server than live ever had). Scout is just needlessly unclassic server self-own.

its all the same

socialist pixels, as you said it so elegantly

[Reiwa]

The captain is easily tankable on a level 46, honestly a small raid of 46s should be able to handle the encounter so I see no valid reason why they should be gatekept from a level appropriate (in terms of attainability) item.

I dunno he kicked my 60 rangers ass kinda hard.

[zelld52]

its all the same

socialist pixels, as you said it so elegantly

Especially if we're talking about bringing a level 46 who doesn't bring a small group to kill captain.

What a terrible rule. Either 55+ and everyone stays to help - or no level restriction on the roll and you are on your own killing the Captain.

[Cecily]

I dunno he kicked my 60 rangers ass kinda hard.

It's a bad class that doesn't benefit from AC gains. A well-geared 39 rogue would probably do as well.

[Naethyn]

One of the best lessons everquest teaches is the need of other people. It doesn't matter how powerful you are individually, you will never be as powerful as a group of friends working together. The greed of pixels ultimately drives you to the correct choice.

[Ekco]

One of the best lessons everquest teaches is the need of other people. It doesn't matter how powerful you are individually, you will never be as powerful as a group of friends working together. The greed of pixels ultimately drives you to the correct choice.

2 deep 4 me.

[Cecily]

Alternatively, one of the best lessons Everquest teaches is the need of other people.

“Selfish, adj. Devoid of consideration for the selfishness of others.”
― Ambrose Bierce, The Unabridged Devil's Dictionary

[Swish]

Did this thread change anything yet?

[Goregasmic]

Did this thread change anything yet?

Yeah, made me glad I don't have to suffer through this shit camp as a caster.

[Cecily]

Did this thread change anything yet?

We're still in the middle of the raising awareness stage before we tentatively decide whether we go ahead with the non-violent West Freeport protest or not. However, we do suspect we'll have promising results with community members making tepid comments vaguely directed at decision makers on the forums.

[Reiwa]

DMO need some milkies?

[Ciderpress]

Scout roll isn't socialist pixels because you can fail it and he despawns. For pixels to be socialist they have to carry a guarantee.

I agree that people have no idea how to dirty\clean tag though, but it's kind of funny when all the giants come running back and just fuck the whole thing up.

[loramin]

Scout roll isn't socialist pixels because you can fail it and he despawns. For pixels to be socialist they have to carry a guarantee.

You have a very limited understanding of history: socialist governments have long made promises they can't deliver on.

[Ennewi]

history: governments have long made promises they don't deliver on.

[Reiwa]

The socialism: Please Stay and help. This is not required but more of a courtesy. It's a 5-10 minute ordeal, help the people who are one day going to help you in return.

[shovelquest]

You have a very limited understanding of history: socialist governments have long made promises they can't deliver on.

lol

[zelld52]

Scout roll isn't socialist pixels because you can fail it and he despawns. For pixels to be socialist they have to carry a guarantee.

I agree that people have no idea how to dirty\clean tag though, but it's kind of funny when all the giants come running back and just fuck the whole thing up.

It's very funny. The tank will tag off of the kite, and then go low HP and all the giants will come stomp everyone. Scout despawns, people wait for 20 minutes for a rez, nobody wins.

Let's make that better by lowering the required level to a level well below being able to help in the encounter...

I only have 1 shaman remaining to get the range slot, but the Othmir Prexus Totem is looking better every day. (255 STA with Rioutous health with that thang)

[kjs86z2]

scoop chorizo

[Jimjam]

It's very funny. The tank will tag off of the kite, and then go low HP and all the giants will come stomp everyone. Scout despawns, people wait for 20 minutes for a rez, nobody wins.

Let's make that better by lowering the required level to a level well below being able to help in the encounter...

I only have 1 shaman remaining to get the range slot, but the Othmir Prexus Totem is looking better every day. (255 STA with Rioutous health with that thang)

Sorry you didn’t tank kromcap :(