Purge Green, Purge Blue, Start Fresh, Start Anew!

[ya.dingus]

Just purge everything and bring this project back to a fresh start.

Numbers will sky rocket again, and we'll be clear of the taint of the last 14+ years the project has accumulated.

[Ekco]

merge servers and bring back dark men of odus and i think shit will be pretty solid. will take a group effort but it's not terminal.

[Reiwa]

There will never be wipes but I think an Odus man guild could be permissible if the purpose were not to be disruptive.

[ya.dingus]

There will never be wipes but I think an Odus man guild could be permissible if the purpose were not to be disruptive.

Thank you massa for your permission. We try not to offend you again massa.

Get the hell outta here.

[sajbert]

IMO merge Green with Blue and send the server to the Luclin. Add a new fresh server that once sleeper is killed flushes all characters onto the Luclin-server and restarts.

Suggestion #2: On the Luclin (or otherwise eternal Velious server) unlock legacy item camps and spawns on a rotational original timeline schedule. E.g. every few years players get another shot at Manastone, Holgresh Elder Beads and Warder loot.

[questever]

IMO merge Green with Blue and send the server to the Luclin. Add a new fresh server that once sleeper is killed flushes all characters onto the Luclin-server and restarts.

Suggestion #2: On the Luclin (or otherwise eternal Velious server) unlock legacy item camps and spawns on a rotational original timeline schedule. E.g. every few years players get another shot at Manastone, Holgresh Elder Beads and Warder loot.

No.

[Zoolander]

i bet nilbog and rogean would do that in a heartbeat but then, there is also daybreak.

[Swish]

IMO merge Green with Blue and send the server to the Luclin. Add a new fresh server that once sleeper is killed flushes all characters onto the Luclin-server and restarts.

Suggestion #2: On the Luclin (or otherwise eternal Velious server) unlock legacy item camps and spawns on a rotational original timeline schedule. E.g. every few years players get another shot at Manastone, Holgresh Elder Beads and Warder loot.

There's a Luclin era server with a healthy population right now you can roll on/enjoy.

[Zoolander]

There's a Luclin era server with a healthy population right now you can roll on/enjoy.

i tried that one, its so terribadly coded i had to stop after an hour.

there is rly nothin compareable to p99, sadly.

[SUSUGAM]

you guys are so funny, you killed p99 by being unreasonable neckbeards; so people with lives just leave, it's literally nothing else

[ya.dingus]

you guys are so funny, you killed p99 by being unreasonable neckbeards; so people with lives just leave, it's literally nothing else

Yes, I'm sure that's it and not stagnation of the server.

[zelld52]

you guys are so funny, you killed p99 by being unreasonable neckbeards; so people with lives just leave, it's literally nothing else

entire guilds have moved to quarm because they cant take the daily grind of 40 year olds arguing over pixels. strangely, some people play this game for fun still. you wouldnt know that if you checked the UN

[chillybob]

people who raid on quarm 'poop sock' harder than a lot of p99ers..... except instead of FTE racing and finding some form of competition its 24/7 hitting every allotted instance they can upon lockout timers...

and the whole time their character is over there looking like this shit

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1001514699583655967/1407015848924807218/magik.png?ex=68a4911f&is=68a33f9f&hm=8e40ae10c0961e4017d171b11b6f374dc0901054d36ad8c abc4160679e88a08e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[ya.dingus]

people who raid on quarm 'poop sock' harder than a lot of p99ers..... except instead of FTE racing and finding some form of competition its 24/7 hitting every allotted instance they can upon lockout timers...

and the whole time their character is over there looking like this shit

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1001514699583655967/1407015848924807218/magik.png?ex=68a4911f&is=68a33f9f&hm=8e40ae10c0961e4017d171b11b6f374dc0901054d36ad8c abc4160679e88a08e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Preach

[Mcolaluca]

Reading old posts when talking about luclin and pop was real interesting. PoP without PoK....luclin without bazaar. But I don't think that is a thing anymore?

[Zoolander]

quarm is so terribadly coded, i dont understand why its a thing....

[Ransurian]

Honestly, if a merge isn't realistic, I'm down for a straight up wipe / refresh. The Velious raid grind is exhausting and I'm ready to retire my toons on Green. Looking back, things were a lot more enjoyable at 50 - at least you weren't constantly batphoning every five seconds in classic era in order to have halfway decent raid participation.

[sajbert]

There's a Luclin era server with a healthy population right now you can roll on/enjoy.

Sure, but Quarm is going to PoP. Luclin would give a ”Legacy” server its own distinct function and relevance when a fresh server is cycling through the content It would provide an eternal Luclin option to the community as well. I think Luclin is a good point for a low pop server too given how the spires help players get around themselves, bazaar helps trading and AA’s provide additional content to chip away at for ages.

I personally am not a big fan of Luclin but Ido think it makes sense for a merged server to go there should we get a cycling fresh server.

[Reiwa]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1001514699583655967/1407015848924807218/magik.png?ex=68a4911f&is=68a33f9f&hm=8e40ae10c0961e4017d171b11b6f374dc0901054d36ad8c abc4160679e88a08e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Does it actually look that bad in game on Quarm? He appears to have a melting disease on Quarm.

[chillybob]

Does it actually look that bad in game on Quarm? He appears to have a melting disease on Quarm.

yes, 1 like = 1 prayer... please help save grobb's trolls.... they even can all wear robes over there :(

[Swish]

yes, 1 like = 1 prayer... please help save grobb's trolls.... they even can all wear robes over there :(

https://i.imgur.com/LzlzdTP.png

Of all the things its a change I kind of like. Plus ogres and trolls went on to be wizards in EQ2 (lol)...

[cd288]

Sure, but Quarm is going to PoP. Luclin would give a ”Legacy” server its own distinct function and relevance when a fresh server is cycling through the content It would provide an eternal Luclin option to the community as well. I think Luclin is a good point for a low pop server too given how the spires help players get around themselves, bazaar helps trading and AA’s provide additional content to chip away at for ages.

I personally am not a big fan of Luclin but Ido think it makes sense for a merged server to go there should we get a cycling fresh server.

While I'd love to see some AAs implented to flesh out some of the classic classes (with corresponding mob boosts as needed of course), it will never happen on P99 as the devs believe Luclin was the point where EQ started going downhill (because it was).

[chillybob]

https://i.imgur.com/LzlzdTP.png

Of all the things its a change I kind of like. Plus ogres and trolls went on to be wizards in EQ2 (lol)...

eq what? sorry couldn't hear you over all this vomiting i'm doing

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/FnmTevE.png

[hatterene]

You can never cleanse this taint

[Swish]

I think Brad would have enjoyed seeing these :)

https://i.imgur.com/V4LPbsh.gif

[ya.dingus]

Only a purge can revive this project. Its average numbers dwindle every day, it's hard to watch.

I do not wish to play Quarm.

[Drueric]

Only a purge can revive this project. Its average numbers dwindle every day, it's hard to watch.

I do not wish to play Quarm.

Agreed. Why havent they done it yet?

[IzHaN80]

I guess they just want to have an excuse to shutdown this project? It's been running since 1999, that's a lot of years.

[chillybob]

I guess they just want to have an excuse to shutdown this project? It's been running since 1999, that's a lot of years.

l o l

:rolleyes:

[Zoolander]

daybreak says no.

[Ekco]

daybreak says no.

my father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate works at daybreak and he said they said it's fine

spin that thang up.

[chillybob]

my father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate works at daybreak and he said they said it's fine

spin that thang up.

i think we may have the same uncle brother... small world, big family

[JayDee]

i tried that one, its so terribadly coded i had to stop after an hour.

there is rly nothin compareable to p99, sadly.

It would cost millions of dollars to reproduce a server like p99 which is why daybreak has not tried

[Coridan]

It would cost millions of dollars to reproduce a server like p99 which is why daybreak has not tried

It would probably cost double Rogean and Nilbog's current salaries plus employment contracts. If Daybreak wanted to, they could probably hire them and get the P99 stuff as a bonus..

[IzHaN80]

quarm is so terribadly coded, i dont understand why its a thing....

I don't agree with you. Right now Quarm feels way smoother than P99, they did great including Zeal into Quarm, the camera is much better now compared to P99 and with a lot of Quality of Life stuff that we could only dream in P99.

[Trelaboon]

If you completely wiped the servers, so many people would get upset and bail it would be the final nail in the p1999 coffin. They absolutely need to merge green and blue though and launch a new server. It’s way past time.

[Ekco]

I don't agree with you. Right now Quarm feels way smoother than P99

Unless they've switched to a completely different client in the years since I tried it, this is going to be a personal preference thing. The Mac port client always felt exactly that to anyone with thousands of hours in the real client

a port, with everything that entails and depending on your levels of 'tism that's a non starter.

[shovelquest]

Maybe after THJ wins the lawsuit, p99 can put a donation for new servers button front and center and they can finally have the incentive to do the OP!

[sammoHung]

Maybe after THJ wins the lawsuit, p99 can put a donation for new servers button front and center and they can finally have the incentive to do the OP!

I don't think the suit will see a final verdict. The case will likely be moved to arbitration, and we can no longer snope and speculate on the results.

Ah, well. I suppose that's for the best, all things considered.

[putrid_plum]

A merge and a fresh server would be amazing, will it happen? probably not.

[Xer0]

There's a Luclin era server with a healthy population right now you can roll on/enjoy.

TAKP? is the client still janky? And it's a multibox server, yeah?

[Gustoo]

Alkabor is a robust community for a long time so I'd go there if not here.

Maybe shards of dalaya that was happening pretty good in 2012

[ya.dingus]

What's the chances that this server stagnates and dwindles down to red population?

[sajbert]

What's the chances that this server stagnates and dwindles down to red population?

100%

I mean. Everything dies eventually. Even if we did new servers and merges the servers would inevitably die. Eventually everyone who ever played actual Everquest will be dead. People are starting to die already.

Question is only how long it'd take and I wouldn't be surprised if p99 didn't have at least a small community of 50-500 concurrent players 10 years from now even if no fresh or merge.

[JayDee]

100%

I mean. Everything dies eventually. Even if we did new servers and merges the servers would inevitably die. Eventually everyone who ever played actual Everquest will be dead. People are starting to die already.

.

What i been saying. It is already dying most people just raid log every weekend. No custom content? No luclin? Then at least bring back some warders and give reason for people to play again?

[cd288]

What i been saying. It is already dying most people just raid log every weekend. No custom content? No luclin? Then at least bring back some warders and give reason for people to play again?

P99 itself isn't dying. If they merged and launched a new server tomorrow we'd probably have close to 2k people on it.

The servers are just old. They need to do what the plan has always been which is to release a new server every few years.

[chillybob]

take us to the moon on blue99 only

[Jimjam]

take us to the moon on blue99 only

Skip expansions from sol and pick them up again from Ldon and LoY. Those xpacs would be far better without ele/time gear carrying people.

[Ekco]

those two then Gates of Discord, good ending spots cause we'd prolly just bang our aheads agaisnt Ikkinz trials or Uqua forever and never get to those last zones.

[Jimjam]

[LoY/LdoN] then Gates of Discord, good ending spots cause we'd prolly just bang our aheads agaisnt Ikkinz trials or Uqua forever and never get to those last zones.

GoD, 60 cap. No time/ele gear. Nor Loose Lynne. That would be sick. We'd allow AA (not for donations though).

[loramin]

Skip expansions from sol and pick them up again from Ldon and LoY. Those xpacs would be far better without ele/time gear carrying people.

QFT. Both those expansions were far more classic than Luclin/PoP (even though I enjoyed both those expansions on live). Well, except that they use the new models :(

LoY could be added pretty much without modification (which could be key, as DBG doesn't seem to like customization). It basically just added more content, set in the old/classic world, for characters up to 60 (and then I think there were a few boss mobs that maybe were intended for 65s ... but the over-geared 60's on P99 should be able to tackle them just fine).

[shovelquest]

I never played LoY what's cool about it?

[loramin]

I never played LoY what's cool about it?

Pirates!

https://assets-cdn.daybreakgames.com/uploads/dcsclient/000/000/181/681.jpg?v=1.0

https://images.stopgame.ru/screenshots/7150/everquest_the_legacy_of_ykesha-35.jpg

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51Z7F0C64WL.jpg

https://images.stopgame.ru/screenshots/7150/everquest_the_legacy_of_ykesha-1.jpg

But seriously, I think most live players would have answered that it added frogloks as a playable race, and added lizard mounts ... and the rest of the expansion was garbage.

Live players were full of AA's from Luclin and were level 65 from PoP, so no one really wanted more < 61 content set in the old world. But that's exactly why I think it'd be perfect for P99 (modulo the new models): it was basically content for the P99 crowd.

We could leave out the lizards (since we don't even have horses), and also leave out the frogloks (and their revamp of Grobb into the Froglok hometown), and simply have more places for people to adventure in. As a bonus, that content would be very pirate-y, which I think is something P99 lacks (what few pirates we have, like the gnomish ones, aren't very pirate-y).

[cd288]

Never played LoY but this sounds like a great idea. Although I'd love to add the Frogloks as a playable race at least, would be cool and maybe cause some increase in lower level population as people level Froglok alts.

[loramin]

Never played LoY but this sounds like a great idea. Although I'd love to add the Frogloks as a playable race at least, would be cool and maybe cause some increase in lower level population as people level Froglok alts.

+1

I just thought our staff (with their hatred of moon cats) might be similarly opposed to playable frogloks, because they too are "new-style" models. But if they weren't opposed, I agree that they'd be a fun addition.

[Jimjam]

LoY had some nice new potion recipes too. Including racial illusion potions! Ooooh, so shiny and practical for faction, height change, +regen, slam button, etc!

[Coridan]

I'd be ok with LoY (though I don't like Froglok Grobb) but I wouldn't want LDoN's theme park instances. I'd prefer custom content. Make Kerra playable/Kerra Isle a starter zone and fill out Odus. Make Rujarkian Hills that connects Oasis and South Karana, make some of the other areas up north by Halas (maybe playable orcs?)

[Ekco]

just pick the best ldon instance zone map out of the stack for each of the instances and make it a static zone you just zone into from the Ldon zone in spot.(that's what Shards of Dalaya did to add a bunch of raiding zones)

and have each of the 5? dungeon themes it was (Guk,Mistmoore,Permafrost..etc) rotate the level ranges every month or so or just pick what level each of the ldon dungeons will be

[HalflingWarrior]

Part of the Daybreak "deal" was no custom content, and no new servers.

[loramin]

Part of the Daybreak "deal" was no custom content, and no new servers.

Source?

I'm pretty sure the agreement was released in that lawsuit, and I don't remember anything about "no custom content" being specified.

[shovelquest]

I think most live players would have answered that it added frogloks as a playable race, and added lizard mounts ...

https://i.imgur.com/TcEY7JQ.png

I'll be damned before i call that thing a froglok!

Or get on a filthy lizard like the dirty jedi.

https://i.imgur.com/ycWD7Tn.png

But pirates sounds fun.

I like the barbarian fishing village in the karanas.

The classicest large Bronze farm!

[Reiwa]

Part of the Daybreak "deal" was no custom content, and no new servers.

I don't tell you that you can't do that, I tell you in exact terms what you can do.

[MutinyLLC]

Ladder being updated every week gents.

[Duik]

Maybe after THJ wins the lawsuit, p99 can put a donation for new servers button front and center and they can finally have the incentive to do the OP!

Just lolocaust.