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Goregasmic
07-19-2025, 07:16 PM
So I'm starting to be close to getting all the EC pieces I want and I'll get some SS MQs too for my "all around" gear set. Eventually I'll be ready to join a guild and raid some. I'll have to come up with a solid resist gear set too.

As an ench will they even let me raid as an ench? Outside C2/haste bitch from what I understand there's very little to do if you can't charm anything worthwhile. Do I really need to be within AE range as a chanter? From what I understand our nukes are mostly resisted due to the stun component and shamans have a better slow.

I never bothered with VOG because I just don't need it, I mostly solo. Do guilds have copies of that or it is critical I shell out the 12k for it?

And then what's the magic resist numbers to aim for unbuffed?

From what I understand the most critical is MR, then FR/CR, then PR/DR? How big of a deal is pr/dr? I noticed on most pieces it is either cr/fr or pr/dr, svALL being pretty rare.

Any other ench raiding advice is welcome.

Thanks.

PatChapp
07-20-2025, 04:27 PM
Depends on the engage. If all the shaman die you'll be going in to attempt slows on some mobs.
In fear youll be charming,and even a nearly naked enchanter is fine there since you can outrange the only ae mob in the zone.
Lots buffing,if your going to raids on an enchanter there's no reason not to have vog.
Get gift of pure thought(group c2) If yiu don't have it,saves a lot of time
Resists aren't super important for most stuff that we do,overall.
If you can hit 100+mr unbuffed you'll be okay,at least.

loramin
07-20-2025, 05:44 PM
So I'm starting to be close to getting all the EC pieces I want and I'll get some SS MQs too for my "all around" gear set. Eventually I'll be ready to join a guild and raid some.

You're doing it wrong. Join the guild first, and then you can get a full suit of SS armor for free (well, for the cost of showing up to a few raids).

Meanwhile, guilds don't care what items you have. Ok, that's not exactly true, some will want you to have raid gear, but no one will require raid gear to join (you'll just be limited in some way until you get raiding gear, eg. you won't be able to bid on the very best items).

kjs86z2
07-21-2025, 09:42 AM
So I'm starting to be close to getting all the EC pieces I want and I'll get some SS MQs too for my "all around" gear set. Eventually I'll be ready to join a guild and raid some. I'll have to come up with a solid resist gear set too.

As an ench will they even let me raid as an ench? Outside C2/haste bitch from what I understand there's very little to do if you can't charm anything worthwhile. Do I really need to be within AE range as a chanter? From what I understand our nukes are mostly resisted due to the stun component and shamans have a better slow.

I never bothered with VOG because I just don't need it, I mostly solo. Do guilds have copies of that or it is critical I shell out the 12k for it?

And then what's the magic resist numbers to aim for unbuffed?

From what I understand the most critical is MR, then FR/CR, then PR/DR? How big of a deal is pr/dr? I noticed on most pieces it is either cr/fr or pr/dr, svALL being pretty rare.

Any other ench raiding advice is welcome.

Thanks.

Guilds will have VoG. Its required.

I never bothered with special resist gear. Velious was beat in Kunark gear, you'll be fine.

Charm kills: Anything in Kael (required - best is Korakaz but Troopers are fine too, getting these druid snared helps a ton), PoG (required - Sprites are your charm targets), Fear (required - Irak Altil ideal but the imps are good too they backstab), Hate (required), Dain (maybe).

I used to charm whelps for a few ToV dragons like Eashen and Vyemm.

Since rooted dragons picture room "goaltending" is out, but you can goalie duty Vulak guards if people are still doing the wizard kite in trips room strat. You'd probably do more harm then good being up with the pull team without any experience but you can definitely do goalie work when crawling around on competitive engages.

From what I understand, tash and slow aggro isn't what it used to be, so this is probably outdated: but if you really want to shine on competitive high speed pulls in ToV you need to befriend a wizard and a mage. Be in their group. Get a TL box (of course you're bound outside ToV if you're a raider), every time a flurry drake is being pulled into camp run up to the pullers, tash, click your TL box, re-enter, and get coth'd back up. You can do this on all slowable bosses as well but it sounds like people aren't really that sweaty about it anymore.

Make sure your /yell or /gu slow macro specifies "ENC SLOW" so the shaman know to keep going with theirs.

Can always have a reaper ready to save a tank. Big on stuff like AoW.

Have a DA item / idol ready. AoE tash bomb + DA idol can buy a raid a bit of time on messy train aways. At the very least, bring a DA idol with you at all times and give it to someone competent if they've used theirs already.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some other niche / clutch things as its been 4 or 5 years since I raided but if you can do all this you're miles ahead of the average wall-licker enchanter warmbody.

Save all your DKP for Essence of Nature (FT5) from Tunare, then get other items after that. If your raid guild / force doesn't do Tunare, look for another one because you're wasting your time otherwise. FT5 is your single best piece of gear possible.

zelld52
07-21-2025, 10:31 AM
Enchanters dont need any gear on raids. I was in guild with an enchanter who had Braided Cinch Cord at level 60, and was the #1 Enchanter attendee at raids. He was very useful - because ENC primary role on raids is buffing.

now, if you wanna be more of a playmaker on raids, and charm kael giants for AoW, or tash and sieve ToV dragons or Zlandi, etc - resists will help dodge the AEs - but again best enc ive had on raids with me had shit gear at 60

kjs86z2
07-21-2025, 10:59 AM
Enchanters dont need any gear on raids. I was in guild with an enchanter who had Braided Cinch Cord at level 60, and was the #1 Enchanter attendee at raids. He was very useful - because ENC primary role on raids is buffing.

now, if you wanna be more of a playmaker on raids, and charm kael giants for AoW, or tash and sieve ToV dragons or Zlandi, etc - resists will help dodge the AEs - but again best enc ive had on raids with me had shit gear at 60

oh ya i forgot about sieves too

otherwise you're wrong...if all you do is buff as an enchanter you're a warmbody

can do everything i mentioned and buff np (hence why FT5 is single most important item, period)

PatChapp
07-21-2025, 01:57 PM
Lots of charming in kael for sure,but charm pets no longer attack tunare. But enchanters are very important otherwise for that engage.

Bvellos with vog+avatar does like 4 rogues worth of dps

kjs86z2
07-21-2025, 02:01 PM
but charm pets no longer attack tunare



sheeeeiiiiit

Goregasmic
07-21-2025, 02:36 PM
You're doing it wrong. Join the guild first, and then you can get a full suit of SS armor for free (well, for the cost of showing up to a few raids).

Meanwhile, guilds don't care what items you have. Ok, that's not exactly true, some will want you to have raid gear, but no one will require raid gear to join (you'll just be limited in some way until you get raiding gear, eg. you won't be able to bid on the very best items).

Yeah for sure but with my current RL situation I have limited play time so it is usually much easier for me to just farm a couple items for cash and buy a MQ than being on the exact time people raid HOT. So at this point I'm focusing on getting the best gear I can get my hands on so when I join I can just tag along and help with whatever is going on.

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, very informative.

kjs86z2
07-21-2025, 02:38 PM
Yeah for sure but with my current RL situation I have limited play time so it is usually much easier for me to just farm a couple items for cash and buy a MQ than being on the exact time people raid HOT. So at this point I'm focusing on getting the best gear I can get my hands on so when I join I can just tag along and help with whatever is going on.

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, very informative.

If you can't commit to a scheduled HoT session how are you ever going to raid?

Goregasmic
07-21-2025, 02:54 PM
If you can't commit to a scheduled HoT session how are you ever going to raid?

I can raid or help with whatever when I'm on but I will not often be able to make it to most scheduled events depending on timing. I'd really like to finish my epic but I don't think it is ever happening but still more chances for it to happen guilded than... unguilded. I've adjusted my expectations accordingly and I plan to be upfront about this. Worst case scenario I'll stay solo and end up with a zlandi heart and SS MQs which I'm fine with anyway.

PatChapp
07-21-2025, 02:58 PM
Most raiding on p99 isn't scheduled, so you will probanly be able to make some stuff. Assuming your around at all the day stuff is scheduled to pop.
I have like 2%raid attendance these days,lots of people just ho when it lines up for them

loramin
07-21-2025, 03:28 PM
Yeah for sure but with my current RL situation I have limited play time so it is usually much easier for me to just farm a couple items for cash and buy a MQ than being on the exact time people raid HOT. So at this point I'm focusing on getting the best gear I can get my hands on so when I join I can just tag along and help with whatever is going on.

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, very informative.

I don't mean this to sound condescending, but you sound to me like every other non-raider I've ever known ... myself included. We all imagine raiding to be bigger and harder than it really is.

(Proof: I farmed plat for Loramin's epic, and then asked the forum to help me (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1867013), back in 2015, so I wouldn't have to join a guild: that's how anti-raiding I was. Now I laugh at how naive I was.)

I guarantee that if you join a guild and start raiding, you will quickly realize that you were a fool for ever paying for anything you can get by just showing up to a raid. Why spend X hours to acquire something that you can get in a fraction of X? It makes no sense.

Goregasmic
07-21-2025, 05:14 PM
I don't mean this to sound condescending, but you sound to me like every other non-raider I've ever known ... myself included. We all imagine raiding to be bigger and harder than it really is.

(Proof: I farmed plat for Loramin's epic, and then asked the forum to help me (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1867013), back in 2015, so I wouldn't have to join a guild: that's how anti-raiding I was. Now I laugh at how naive I was.)

I guarantee that if you join a guild and start raiding, you will quickly realize that you were a fool for ever paying for anything you can get by just showing up to a raid. Why spend X hours to acquire something that you can get in a fraction of X? It makes no sense.

I've raided a fair bit back in 2001-2003 on live. I assume guilds in general would be a lot better at it today.

My only point is if I wanted a frostweaver embroidered cloak, it would be much faster for me to farm 18k than be there for the next dain kill assuming no one wants one and it drops first try. But point taken, unguilded I have zero opportunity to loot one... or all the no drop raid gear.

Duik
07-21-2025, 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by PatChapp
but charm pets no longer attack tunar

That would be a pet peave then?

loramin
07-21-2025, 07:30 PM
My only point is if I wanted a frostweaver embroidered cloak, it would be much faster for me to farm 18k than be there for the next dain kill assuming no one wants one and it drops first try.

I guess it depends. In my guild, the last one "sold" for 220 DKP. Each kill varies, but major targets (stuff like Dain, ToV dragons, etc.) are worth about 20 DKP, so you'd need about 11 such kills for a cloak.

I'd imagine you could attend eleven raids in a few weeks, then go to to Dain raids for a few weeks, faster than you can earn 18k (and find a seller) ... but maybe not if you are good at plat farming?

Also:

... or all the no drop raid gear.

There are a few better NO DROP options: https://wiki.project1999.com/Special:ClassSlotEquip/Enchanter/Back/AllItems. But also, there's the Shroud of the Dar Brood (https://wiki.project1999.com/Shroud_of_the_Dar_Brood). It has similar stats (but no Charisma), and it only "sold" for 20DKP at the last Zlandi.

You could join a major raid guild, go on just two raids (anything decent and Zlandicar ) and walk away with a cloak nearly as good as the Dain one.

kjs86z2
07-22-2025, 08:34 AM
If your raid guild doesn't target Tunare, don't bother. Find a new home. FT5 is the only item truly worth raiding for as an enchanter. The rest is pure gravy.

Goregasmic
07-22-2025, 07:40 PM
I guess it depends. In my guild, the last one "sold" for 220 DKP. Each kill varies, but major targets (stuff like Dain, ToV dragons, etc.) are worth about 20 DKP, so you'd need about 11 such kills for a cloak.

I'd imagine you could attend eleven raids in a few weeks, then go to to Dain raids for a few weeks, faster than you can earn 18k (and find a seller) ... but maybe not if you are good at plat farming?

Also:



There are a few better NO DROP options: https://wiki.project1999.com/Special:ClassSlotEquip/Enchanter/Back/AllItems. But also, there's the Shroud of the Dar Brood (https://wiki.project1999.com/Shroud_of_the_Dar_Brood). It has similar stats (but no Charisma), and it only "sold" for 20DKP at the last Zlandi.

You could join a major raid guild, go on just two raids (anything decent and Zlandicar ) and walk away with a cloak nearly as good as the Dain one.

Depends, been farming chardok lately. Sometimes I make like... 2-3k in a couple hours and sometimes like 15k depending on RNG. Did frenzy for 2h sessions a couple nights a week and made about 40k a few months ago, not bad for leveling money. I guess it really depends on the raid item you're going for. That FT5 earring is probably out of reach for a long time. But yeah, I picked the solo farming king class so it is a bit different for us.

Yeah I planed on scouting the wiki for the no drop stuff I should start looking for.

zelld52
07-23-2025, 09:02 AM
I've raided a fair bit back in 2001-2003 on live. I assume guilds in general would be a lot better at it today.


Yeah, the top tier raiders are. I think on the whole, the average raider has not improved since 2001.

WarpathEQ
07-23-2025, 09:38 AM
Simple guide to gearing a character...Full set of Skyshrine (HoT) Armor, 2x velium diamond rings, 2x velium BD bracelets, 2x Electrum Black Sapphire earrings.

Thats pretty much any toon I gear regardless of class, the main variety is shoulders, back, waist, primary, secondary, or range slots. The class page on the wiki has great lists of idea gear per era for these slots and you can target the best available/attainable items from there.

Jimjam
07-23-2025, 10:08 AM
Simple guide to gearing a character...Full set of Skyshrine (HoT) Armor, 2x velium diamond rings, 2x velium BD bracelets, 2x Electrum Black Sapphire earrings.

Thats pretty much any toon I gear regardless of class, the main variety is shoulders, back, waist, primary, secondary, or range slots. The class page on the wiki has great lists of idea gear per era for these slots and you can target the best available/attainable items from there.

Waist or back are usually haste dump slots too (probably not for enchanter admittedly) so that is another 1 less slot to worry about too!

Samoht
07-23-2025, 10:37 AM
Waist or back are usually haste dump slots too (probably not for enchanter admittedly)

https://wiki.project1999.com/Shroud_of_the_Dar_Brood
https://wiki.project1999.com/Spiked_Seahorse_Hide_Belt

laf

PatChapp
07-23-2025, 10:49 AM
As an aside,don't waste your money on a dain cloak.
You can buy the cards for a cloak of confusion for 20-25k, not a much bigger stretch and a massive upgrade.

kjs86z2
07-23-2025, 02:10 PM
if you dont have every single item on this magelo you have failed p99

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Zarza

Goregasmic
07-24-2025, 09:07 AM
As an aside,don't waste your money on a dain cloak.
You can buy the cards for a cloak of confusion for 20-25k, not a much bigger stretch and a massive upgrade.

Nice cloak, glossed over it I guess. Currently using hiero, nice cloak for the +75hp/mana but no resists. Finally reached 200int and 255cha so I'm kind of trying to consolidate stats on some high stat pieces so I can swap less interesting ones for more resist oriented ones.

Speaking of POM, there's 2-3 pieces of the ench armor that are kinda nice but am I wrong in thinking those quests look like a absolute hassle and very costly for a minor resist bump? Are they worth doing?

PatChapp
07-24-2025, 09:13 AM
Nice cloak, glossed over it I guess. Currently using hiero, nice cloak for the +75hp/mana but no resists. Finally reached 200int and 255cha so I'm kind of trying to consolidate stats on some high stat pieces so I can swap less interesting ones for more resist oriented ones.

Speaking of POM, there's 2-3 pieces of the ench armor that are kinda nice but am I wrong in thinking those quests look like a absolute hassle and very costly for a minor resist bump? Are they worth doing?
The armor is very expensive if you buy the thrones. Robe is worth it,but more expensive then the very similar ss robe. Cloak is 100% worth it. Let's you drop cha on other slots,and similar hp to hiero. Great resists.

kjs86z2
07-24-2025, 09:38 AM
Camp A4 for cloak. Do HoT for SS.

You don't have to buy anything.

Goregasmic
07-24-2025, 11:43 AM
Camp A4 for cloak. Do HoT for SS.

You don't have to buy anything.

Never been, wondered if the mobs dropping thrones were soloable and since you suggest camping it I guess so. I'll take a closer look and put that on the to do list.

PatChapp
07-24-2025, 11:50 AM
If your comfortable killing cliff golems a4 mobs are very similar.
Its a lottery camp and the throne cards are very rare,but if you've never done it, its good to experience

zelld52
07-24-2025, 11:53 AM
If your comfortable killing cliff golems a4 mobs are very similar.
Its a lottery camp and the throne cards are very rare,but if you've never done it, its good to experience

Ugh A4. I camped A4 for 3 days as a shaman. Was able to kill Twenty-Two A4 about 50% of the time (depended on reslow landing)

The twins and Twenty-Two were rough fights. Esp as shaman, having to keep one of the twins rooted while killing the other.

After all that jazz, about a dozen kills of each of the mobs - I got one Black Throne and that's it.

I guess A4 is good if you Work From Home and can keep the camp over the 72 minute spawn, but thats a pretty privelaged position to be in,

PatChapp
07-24-2025, 12:00 PM
Ugh A4. I camped A4 for 3 days as a shaman. Was able to kill Twenty-Two A4 about 50% of the time (depended on reslow landing)

The twins and Twenty-Two were rough fights. Esp as shaman, having to keep one of the twins rooted while killing the other.

After all that jazz, about a dozen kills of each of the mobs - I got one Black Throne and that's it.

I guess A4 is good if you Work From Home and can keep the camp over the 72 minute spawn, but thats a pretty privelaged position to be in,

Wow you got a throne. The worst throne,but better than I ever did.
22 is a pain but I never found the twins to be too bad,as an enchanter though. I remember some 22 fights where he resisted a mana bar full of slows.

loramin
07-24-2025, 12:11 PM
The twins and Twenty-Two were rough fights. Esp as shaman, having to keep one of the twins rooted while killing the other.

You don't have to fight both twins at once. Root one in the room, then lead the second one back to the rat room. Root him, camp, and come back.

Most of the time when you come back he'll have broken root and be on his way back to his original room, but if you agro him you can then fight him seperately in the hallway (or wherever he is).

As for 22, a lot of the time I didn't even bother doing him, but when I did the key was to run around a lot until slow landed.

Goregasmic
07-24-2025, 12:47 PM
You don't have to fight both twins at once. Root one in the room, then lead the second one back to the rat room. Root him, camp, and come back.

Most of the time when you come back he'll have broken root and be on his way back to his original room, but if you agro him you can then fight him seperately in the hallway (or wherever he is).

As for 22, a lot of the time I didn't even bother doing him, but when I did the key was to run around a lot until slow landed.

Did some tests in HS and it seemed like when you camp aggro they get stripped of root. I'd apply a fresh fetter (180sec), camp out and log in immediately and the mobs would be gone.

I guess if you pull them far enough you can catch them before they fully walk back but you can't bank on root staying on.

loramin
07-24-2025, 12:58 PM
Did some tests in HS and it seemed like when you camp aggro they get stripped of root. I'd apply a fresh fetter (180sec), camp out and log in immediately and the mobs would be gone.

I guess if you pull them far enough you can catch them before they fully walk back but you can't bank on root staying on.

Yeah. I think there might be a chance that the root stays a few seconds (I've never tested), but even if not, as I said there's enough room. I haven't been back to A4 in years, but I remember not even needing to get to the A3 hallway: if you just root him in Grink's (Gronk's? The rat's) room, then ...

when you come back he'll have broken root and be on his way back to his original room, but if you agro him you can then fight him seperately in the hallway (or wherever he is).

Maybe not 100% of the time; I think rarely I'd get back and he'd have made it into agro range with his buddy, so I'd have to do it all over ... but most of the time.

DeathsSilkyMist
07-24-2025, 12:58 PM
Did some tests in HS and it seemed like when you camp aggro they get stripped of root. I'd apply a fresh fetter (180sec), camp out and log in immediately and the mobs would be gone.

I guess if you pull them far enough you can catch them before they fully walk back but you can't bank on root staying on.

Yeah root breaks very often on camp. You usually need snare instead. On Shaman best bet is Spear of Constriction, but you need to raid VP for that. The Innoruuk necklace only lasts 6 ticks, so it will wear off once you finish camping.

Can also farm some of this item https://wiki.project1999.com/Ball_of_Burlap_Yarn since it isn't lore.

Goregasmic
07-24-2025, 03:06 PM
I don't want to argue over semantics but I'm not sure it breaks, pretty sure it just gets wiped because I did a couple tries of fetter on tashed and green trash and it never held, when it otherwise rarely breaks. Not sure if it is a root or debuff thing to prevent people logging onto another toon and benefit from debuffs. IIRC it holds when zoning (snaring near zoneline and zoneing out/in to split) but on camp, not sure.

zelld52
07-24-2025, 03:31 PM
I don't want to argue over semantics but I'm not sure it breaks, pretty sure it just gets wiped because I did a couple tries of fetter on tashed and green trash and it never held, when it otherwise rarely breaks. Not sure if it is a root or debuff thing to prevent people logging onto another toon and benefit from debuffs. IIRC it holds when zoning (snaring near zoneline and zoneing out/in to split) but on camp, not sure.

Snare holds when you camp but yes, root breaks when you camp. It happens 100% of the time. If you see a mob still at the root spot when you log back in, its just because it hasnt started pathing back yet.

It's kind of a fun game as a shaman trying to split mobs in Sebilis - root one in camp, root one around the corner, and root one in the kill spot. Log back in and hopefully the kill-spot mob hasnt pathed back into LoS of the others. If so, try again.

Shaman pacify doesnt work as well :D

loramin
07-24-2025, 04:00 PM
It's kind of a fun game as a shaman trying to split mobs in Sebilis - root one in camp, root one around the corner, and root one in the kill spot. Log back in and hopefully the kill-spot mob hasnt pathed back into LoS of the others. If so, try again.

Shaman pacify doesnt work as well :D

Doing it in PoM is mildly annoying: doing it in Seb is somewhat crazy. Respect :)

Goregasmic
08-09-2025, 10:36 AM
Update:

Ended up getting a insignia protector instead of orb of infinite void, also got a necklace of superiority until I get around to messing with dragons. Also replaced hiero cloak with a cloak of confusion. Really happy with the cloak since it puts me at 225cha unbuffed meaning I can swap both sarnak bracers of honor for something more useful, meaning I can also swap rings and bracers for resist gear while staying at ~255cha buffed if I need to... while staying over 200int.

Was thinking of farming for SS MQs and a zlandi heart but I think I'm going to take a farming break to tie up some loose ends on epic quest. There's also 2-3 POM armor pieces that are nice but at like 70k a pop for a minor stat bump it will wait, I think I'd like to gear some alts first.

PatChapp
08-09-2025, 02:07 PM
The ss bracers are really nice,works out to 52hp? Each with the +sta. They are on the cheaper side to

Goregasmic
08-09-2025, 08:47 PM
The ss bracers are really nice,works out to 52hp? Each with the +sta. They are on the cheaper side to

Yeah I'm getting at least one, if not two. I also want to get boots/gloves/arms/head.

Pants are not really worth the money compared to tanned iksar hide ones so very low priority. Robe I'm still debating spending 35k for it or shelling out the ~80k for the POM one. Right now I have the ice silk robe so not exactly naked either.

PatChapp
08-10-2025, 06:46 AM
Unless you really like the fashion,ss robe probably better with the more hp

Goregasmic
08-10-2025, 09:58 AM
Unless you really like the fashion,ss robe probably better with the more hp

Oh, POM robe is better for sure, not by a huge margin but facts are facts. I'm just debating if I'm going for it or if I'm fine not getting it for now.

POM robe price tag is basically the entire SS MQ set. The price difference between POM and SS robe is literally a fungi tunic and I feel like my alts would get much better QOL with that money than extra resists and 8 charisma. That or bringing me a third of the way toward a zlandi heart while still having a nice robe if we're honest.

The more I think about it the more I feel I'll just get it at the very end, when I don't really need anything else.

PatChapp
08-11-2025, 06:51 AM
Oh, POM robe is better for sure, not by a huge margin but facts are facts. I'm just debating if I'm going for it or if I'm fine not getting it for now.

POM robe price tag is basically the entire SS MQ set. The price difference between POM and SS robe is literally a fungi tunic and I feel like my alts would get much better QOL with that money than extra resists and 8 charisma. That or bringing me a third of the way toward a zlandi heart while still having a nice robe if we're honest.

The more I think about it the more I feel I'll just get it at the very end, when I don't really need anything else.

Honestly I think the skyshrine robe is better, I have pom because I really dont like the ss fashion but the more hp is very nice if you can stand to look at it.
I dont have a zlandi heart,if you dont have your epic on green the LR for vessel not that bad these days. Can probably get it for 50k or leas if you log in right after a quake.
Its also very diyable,just a lot of monks do it now and you cannot beat a instant engage monk.

Goregasmic
08-11-2025, 03:20 PM
Honestly I think the skyshrine robe is better, I have pom because I really dont like the ss fashion but the more hp is very nice if you can stand to look at it.
I dont have a zlandi heart,if you dont have your epic on green the LR for vessel not that bad these days. Can probably get it for 50k or leas if you log in right after a quake.
Its also very diyable,just a lot of monks do it now and you cannot beat a instant engage monk.

For fashion I almost prefere the SS robe I think. I don't feel like the POM looks so much better. I've settled for SS for now.

Yeah I didn't get my epic yet, still unguilded. I know everyone says don't even bother with epic if you didn't get VT/VD yet but in my situation I'm more worried about the hate/fear parts since those aren't soloable as far as I know. I think I'll tie up some loose end and join a guild that does both. From what I read hate isn't too popular due to the RMT crew.

What's the VT/VD situation nowadays, poopsocked by MTers? I'd like to try the VD kill because it looks like a fun challenge but I can't poopsock the 5 days window. No point in buying LR if I didn't get hate/fear pieces IMO.

Thanks for the advice btw.

loramin
08-11-2025, 04:12 PM
Yeah I didn't get my epic yet, still unguilded. I know everyone says don't even bother with epic if you didn't get VT/VD yet but in my situation I'm more worried about the hate/fear parts since those aren't soloable as far as I know. I think I'll tie up some loose end and join a guild that does both. From what I read hate isn't too popular due to the RMT crew.

What's the VT/VD situation nowadays, poopsocked by MTers? I'd like to try the VD kill because it looks like a fun challenge but I can't poopsock the 5 days window. No point in buying LR if I didn't get hate/fear pieces IMO.

Just join a guild already: what are you afraid of?

https://i.imgur.com/A4DxnWY.gif

PatChapp
08-11-2025, 05:03 PM
For fashion I almost prefere the SS robe I think. I don't feel like the POM looks so much better. I've settled for SS for now.

Yeah I didn't get my epic yet, still unguilded. I know everyone says don't even bother with epic if you didn't get VT/VD yet but in my situation I'm more worried about the hate/fear parts since those aren't soloable as far as I know. I think I'll tie up some loose end and join a guild that does both. From what I read hate isn't too popular due to the RMT crew.

What's the VT/VD situation nowadays, poopsocked by MTers? I'd like to try the VD kill because it looks like a fun challenge but I can't poopsock the 5 days window. No point in buying LR if I didn't get hate/fear pieces IMO.

Thanks for the advice btw.
Vessel is easy,you dont sock the window you just sock when your available and leave an afk tracker with a simple Gina trigger for when your not. The tracker just let's you know if you miss him. As stated before unless there's a monk socking it its very soloable and doable. Its a fun kill,I can run you through in more detail if you want, just dm me.
Verina is often up for multiple hours,cannot be solod by an enchanter. 3 enchanters,maybe 2. Enchanter/cleric. Enc/magician/magician works well

The hate piece is very soloable for a skilled 60 enchanter willing to die a few times. The fear piece can also be solod using irak as a pet but you do need a bard to kite for you.
Its more fun in a smal group though.

Goregasmic
08-12-2025, 10:17 PM
Just join a guild already: what are you afraid of?

https://i.imgur.com/A4DxnWY.gif

I was afraid of raiding/helping all the time and taking a lightyear to hit 60. And then I wanted to get geared up a bit because my gear was mostly junk. I think I got to a point I'm mostly happy with what I got so I'm actually going to start looking for one. I understand I could have raided in cloth armor but that isn't how I wanted to do it.

Vessel is easy,you dont sock the window you just sock when your available and leave an afk tracker with a simple Gina trigger for when your not. The tracker just let's you know if you miss him. As stated before unless there's a monk socking it its very soloable and doable. Its a fun kill,I can run you through in more detail if you want, just dm me.
Verina is often up for multiple hours,cannot be solod by an enchanter. 3 enchanters,maybe 2. Enchanter/cleric. Enc/magician/magician works well

The hate piece is very soloable for a skilled 60 enchanter willing to die a few times. The fear piece can also be solod using irak as a pet but you do need a bard to kite for you.
Its more fun in a smal group though.

Yeah I did my homework on a lot of those and it checks out. Still got a couple points I'm unsure about, I'm on a trip out of town right now, I'll dm you when I'm back. Thank you.