Stop telling me how to play my f-ing class...

[kudos.dude]

I played an Enchanter on live... I wrote the book on this f-ing class...

EVERY GOD DAMN TIME I enter a group, people can't stfu about "make sure to root your mez" or "you should tash before you charm" or "C PLZ OMFG RIGHT THE FUCK NOW IT LITERALLY JUST STARTED FADING"

bitch plz... I'm spinning 12 mofuking plates...

Hey Pally-tank, why ain't you yaulping? Hey DPS, why you got aggro? Hey druid, are you even f-ng there?

Stay in your lane :D

[Samoht]

Yeah, just like real life, you're going to encounter a lot of control freaks, know it alls, and pure autists in game. Just deal with them the same way you do in real life: ignore it. Just let it roll of your back and avoid escalation. If they realize they're pestering you, they may increase their criticism to make you angrier. And even if you successfully knock them down with banter, they're never going to acknowledge it. It's best just to let it roll off your back and move on.

[kudos.dude]

Yeah, just like real life, you're going to encounter a lot of control freaks, know it alls, and pure autists in game. Just deal with them the same way you do in real life: ignore it. Just let it roll of your back and avoid escalation. If they realize they're pestering you, they may increase their criticism to make you angrier. And even if you successfully knock them down with banter, they're never going to acknowledge it. It's best just to let it roll off your back and move on.

This post is way too practical... kinda love it

Playing EQ in 99 was about grouping, fun and trying your best... playing P99 feels like I'm playing WoW again

[zelld52]

I can be guilty of the same - usually never with Enchanters though.

Mostly with shaman, because I've played 3 shaman now. But grouped with a shaman that keeps casting Greater Healing on me, the warrior tank with 3k HP, when I'm at 70% HP - but never slowing a single mob. And then that shaman saying "Can you hold pulls, im oom"

Yeah, i might nudge them and say "If you slowed the mobs and healed me less, maybe you'd have more mana, wanna give that a shot?"

[kudos.dude]

sounds like youre being nice... this isn't aimed at you

[Ekco]

c plz

[Samoht]

Yeah, it's unfortunate. And I honestly don't read most group chat until it becomes worth reading and interacting.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

I started my first character on Green back in.... November? I didn't want to SSF, so I got a lot of help from old friends from Blue and Red to gear my Ranger. Efficiently soloing ended around level 40, so I've been doing anything from duo's to full-groups since then (57 now).

Solo and Group Enchanters are two different skill-sets. That being said, the number of shitty Enchanters I've seen who can't lock down a multi-pull in an outside zone shocks me still. I don't remember seeing so many mechanically-poor players on Blue or Red. Also knowledge-poor -- half the ones I've grouped with are using super expensive spells (high level mezzes, fascination etc..) for locking down mobs that die in 30 seconds. Then they're always OOM...

I'm convinced 40% of the player-base still uses the default arrow keys to move instead of WASD.

80% of you keyboard-turn and run backwards, directly into mobs and at half-speed, making things worse than if they just used a spell.

I'm positive around 80% of the playerbase uses their mouse for nearly every action, not hot keys. For those that do hot key, it seems a decent amount just do it to locate the button in a more convenient place to be mouse-clicked.

Default Everquest plays like complicated flight sim, if you let it. Play it like any other game, including learning the smaller mechanics and it becomes a lot easier.

[kudos.dude]

c plz

:mad:

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

I can be guilty of the same - usually never with Enchanters though.

Mostly with shaman, because I've played 3 shaman now. But grouped with a shaman that keeps casting Greater Healing on me, the warrior tank with 3k HP, when I'm at 70% HP - but never slowing a single mob. And then that shaman saying "Can you hold pulls, im oom"

Yeah, i might nudge them and say "If you slowed the mobs and healed me less, maybe you'd have more mana, wanna give that a shot?"

Healing, outside of CH and Torpor, is one of the worst uses for mana in the game. Damage >>> Healing.

Almost every spell in the game that can be used to reduce/eliminate incoming damage , either by way of faster kills or ranging, will be factors more potent than healing.

[kudos.dude]

I guess to be clear, if someone is completely blowing their class and not doing half the things they should be doing, a gentle reminder is fine...

But if someones performing 95% of their class duties (especially an intense class like Enc), please don't comment on the 5%

[zelld52]

Enchanter can be brutal sometimes, solo or grouped. When I played Necromancer I had to spell swap often, but as an Enchanter in a group you have to spell swap like twice per fight

[kjs86z2]

sounds like op is a shitty enchanter

[kudos.dude]

sounds like op is a shitty enchanter

c plz

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Enchanter can be brutal sometimes, solo or grouped. When I played Necromancer I had to spell swap often, but as an Enchanter in a group you have to spell swap like twice per fight

Agreed. But thatÂ’s also what makes it fun, busy and engaging. Classes werenÂ’t created equal, to do disadvantage those that canÂ’t do more.

Spell swapping is a huge bottleneck and something easy to improve, if you learn to use hot keys.

I use a $50 Corsair mouse with 2 extra buttons on the side. One is set to click my GCD and the other is simply “alt”. Alt + #1-8 casts your spells. Alt + #1-8 also mems your spells into that gem when you’re in your spellbook. Can you can also turn pages without clicking them.

Clean up your spellbook and group your spells by use. Totally useless and overwritten spells to the back of the book. Everything else to the front, between pages 1-4.

Right click to forget spell.
Left click on new spell.
Alt+# to mem spells using keys into empty gem.

Mouse moves 6” across the screen, once, and you’re cycled. Simple as.

[Cecily]

I played an Enchanter on live... I wrote the book on this f-ing class...

EVERY GOD DAMN TIME I enter a group, people can't stfu about "make sure to root your mez" or "you should tash before you charm" or "C PLZ OMFG RIGHT THE FUCK NOW IT LITERALLY JUST STARTED FADING"

bitch plz... I'm spinning 12 mofuking plates...

Hey Pally-tank, why ain't you yaulping? Hey DPS, why you got aggro? Hey druid, are you even f-ng there?

Stay in your lane :DIf you're getting feedback it's because there's so many competent enchanters on this server willing to help teach new players.

[Ekco]

still waiting on that c, need a gob while your at it also thx

[kudos.dude]

I know how to play this class

Imagine, you're at work. If you don't do your job, people die.

99.999% of the time, you do a great job! Even get kudos for how well you're doing...

Then 1 time, you see a mob that needs to be charmed... you normally tash your charms but this mob is actively hitting people, so you charm it immediately

As soon as you do this, some obvi prick goes out of his way to let you know that you did it wrong... despite it being a conscious choice.... he has no clue of the context, your mana pool and is basically half paying attention...

That shit can stop... this is just 1 example...



Future response to all shit posts:

c plz

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

The only mob that needs to be charmed is the one you have charmed already. Use mez or root.

I hope you found this tip helpful and that it reduces the comments you're getting from your groupmates.

[kjs86z2]

confirmed bad

[shovelquest]

Just deal with them the same way you do in real life: ignore it. Just let it roll of your back and avoid escalation.

Replies in DSM 😈

[Samoht]

Replies in DSM 😈

Speaking of pure autists...

[Ekco]

voting no on app, never got c

[Duik]

It is most likely the guilty are not reading this.
Marked as waste of time 9/10 and it does not matter 5/10.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Few can pull off the "I'm not charming a fucking goddam thing" hustle anymore. I don't have the energy for it. Do people realize how hard it is to mindfuck people into letting you be these days? Mad dogging 5 people 5 hours at a clip? Younger player. It's 2025.

OP. You are not alone. But you have the balls to say it. This makes you a friend of the cartel.

[Eagish]

what are hot keys?

[Zuranthium]

what are hot keys?

Be sure not to leave your keyboard in direct sunlight

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Replies in DSM 😈

Yeah Samoht really needs to take his own advice lol. He spams threads nonstop with lies and always wants the last word.

[shovelquest]

lmao lets not get anything going I was just wizecrackn ��

[shovelquest]

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[Samoht]

Yeah Samoht really needs to take his own advice lol. He spams threads nonstop with lies and always wants the last word.

How cute to see DSM begging for mercy.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

How cute to see DSM begging for mercy.

This is a weird way of putting it. I post on topic using logic and evidence. You come in and ruin the thread when people disagree with you. Everybody can see this. They can see you don't post evidence either.

You just keep losing arguments and ruining your reputation with trolling and thread spam. It's really sad to be honest. It is even more sad if you actually think you are winning anything.

[Cecily]

Can you guys stop derailing the topic and get back to offering OP enchanter advice so he doesn't get unsolicited advice in game?

[Snaggles]

I say I don’t group because I don’t have the schedule for it
Mostly, I just dislike PuG’s.

[Duik]

6 point pre-grouping schpiel outlining your resonsibilities and your expectations based on group makeup.

No shammy? Ill slow, at my discretion.
Group full of melee? Ill haste everyone OR haste some and slow (depending on speed of mob deaths).

That could get really complex, really fast...

Maybe just say "OK" and continue to do what you want. Surely people will tire of complaining...

[Samoht]

lol, kittens was never the #2 guild.

[Cecily]

If you type /rt you target the last person who sent you a tell. Might help get those Cs out quicker.

[Drueric]

I played an Enchanter on live... I wrote the book on this f-ing class...

EVERY GOD DAMN TIME I enter a group, people can't stfu about "make sure to root your mez" or "you should tash before you charm" or "C PLZ OMFG RIGHT THE FUCK NOW IT LITERALLY JUST STARTED FADING"

bitch plz... I'm spinning 12 mofuking plates...

Hey Pally-tank, why ain't you yaulping? Hey DPS, why you got aggro? Hey druid, are you even f-ng there?

Stay in your lane :D

Hmm I main a mage, and have never had anyone tell me how to play. People usually just ignore my presence completely in groups.

[wuanahto]

hey man can i get a short duration high cost haste even tho im haste capped at this level with item+augmentation and i feel that augmentation is an insult?

thanks

[Bardp1999]

Sounds you just may not be very good at P99, which is fine, its different from Live. Stick with it and you'll learn, enchanter can be complicated for some people.

[Wakanda]

I’ve noticed this on my Enchanters as well. When you’re playing an Enchanter everyone is suddenly an expert and wants to mansplain Enchanter to you :) even people who aren’t in my group but are in the same zone as me start messaging about what I need to be doing. I have a lot of experience as an Enchanter, I’m thinking about re-rolling my 4th one just because I enjoy leveling them so much.

[Wakanda]

Also people will say it’s because I’m a bad enchanter, but I actually get a lot of praise and had the top raid guild on our server try to recruit me after grouping with me a few months ago. The problem is I don’t like to group as an enchanter because it’s a lot of work and I feel like I can’t really afk and even feel guilty about having to log off because I know they prob won’t find another end, so I tend to avoid groups unless I have hours to dedicate to sitting in my chair unmoving �� with soloing I can more frequently afk with hide on, charm something kill a bunch of stuff then afk again.

Also I’ve been soloing camps before and had groups show up and ended up joining them but then I realized I can do the same camp solo, so all it feels like is I’m kind of gimping myself exp-wise by joining the group a lot of times. I do log in frequently to hit strangers with clarity and haste and stuff tho, I do enjoy helping people.

[Ekco]

If you type /rt you target the last person who sent you a tell. Might help get those Cs out quicker.

[kjs86z2]

Also people will say it’s because I’m a bad enchanter, but I actually get a lot of praise and had the top raid guild on our server try to recruit me after grouping with me a few months ago. The problem is I don’t like to group as an enchanter because it’s a lot of work and I feel like I can’t really afk and even feel guilty about having to log off because I know they prob won’t find another end, so I tend to avoid groups unless I have hours to dedicate to sitting in my chair unmoving �� with soloing I can more frequently afk with hide on, charm something kill a bunch of stuff then afk again.

Also I’ve been soloing camps before and had groups show up and ended up joining them but then I realized I can do the same camp solo, so all it feels like is I’m kind of gimping myself exp-wise by joining the group a lot of times. I do log in frequently to hit strangers with clarity and haste and stuff tho, I do enjoy helping people.

ofc you can AFK as an enchanter in a group

step 1: announce you need to afk

step 2: invis-drop pet in the middle of your group

step 3: go afk

[Drueric]

What if the enchanter charms a power pet, loads it up with haste items and procing weapons, fully buffs it, then charm breaks and kills the enchanter in 2 seconds and wipes out most of party. (True story)

Is that a chanter that should you might make a suggestion to?

[zelld52]

What if the enchanter charms a power pet, loads it up with haste items and procing weapons, fully buffs it, then charm breaks and kills the enchanter in 2 seconds and wipes out most of party. (True story)

Is that a chanter that should you might make a suggestion to?

I bought a Dawnfire for my enchanter to use in Howling Stones. Put it on the enchanter, then loaded up my Necro in KC.

Gave necro pet swarmcaller, was cruising through the basement with no issues. Then, a few bad rolls on resist checks, charm break early, root break early - interrupted Screaming Terror, interrupted Root, and interrupted Feign Death cast. Dead.

Bound far away, run back, pet's gone, Swarmcallers gone. I logged back Enchanter and sold the Dawnfire and never gave it to a pet.

[Drueric]

The chanter in my story got his pets gear back, after we recovered, the mob was still up in the zone. He let other pet mobs knock its health down before we finished it off and got his items back.

[cd288]

Also people will say it’s because I’m a bad enchanter, but I actually get a lot of praise and had the top raid guild on our server try to recruit me after grouping with me a few months ago. The problem is I don’t like to group as an enchanter because it’s a lot of work and I feel like I can’t really afk and even feel guilty about having to log off because I know they prob won’t find another end, so I tend to avoid groups unless I have hours to dedicate to sitting in my chair unmoving �� with soloing I can more frequently afk with hide on, charm something kill a bunch of stuff then afk again.

Also I’ve been soloing camps before and had groups show up and ended up joining them but then I realized I can do the same camp solo, so all it feels like is I’m kind of gimping myself exp-wise by joining the group a lot of times. I do log in frequently to hit strangers with clarity and haste and stuff tho, I do enjoy helping people.

That's when you ask yourself what you're EXPing for. Are you trying to get to max level because you want to raid nonstop? Are you trying to get to max level asap to make this a farming char to generate a lot of plat?

If not, then it's okay to gimp yourself EXP wise if you enjoy being in a group sometimes.

WoW and other modern MMOs created this idea in our heads that we need to optimize exp to rush to 60. Unless there's a specific reason for you for doing so, on P99 you'll get to 60 and never really play that char again...so who cares if it took extra time to get there.

[cd288]

I'll let the comments slide initially but if it gets into several comment territory I just leave the group. If someone sends me a tell asking why, I'll let them know that one of their groupmates wouldn't leave me alone with tells telling me how the play my class.

[kjs86z2]

What if the enchanter charms a power pet, loads it up with haste items and procing weapons, fully buffs it, then charm breaks and kills the enchanter in 2 seconds and wipes out most of party. (True story)

Is that a chanter that should you might make a suggestion to?

This is my favorite thing to do when leaving a particularly shitty group.

Have fully hasted / torched pet. Wait for big pull. Gate.

[Endorra]

Cecily is delivering solid troll posts. I see you girl.

All Enchanters are Beautiful and Talented, but Especially Me. Feel free to message me for advice.

[Drueric]

This is my favorite thing to do when leaving a particularly shitty group.

Have fully hasted / torched pet. Wait for big pull. Gate.

Yea I dunno, I think you could get banned for that, if the party figures out what you did and petitions... not a great idea.

[kjs86z2]

Yea I dunno, I think you could get banned for that, if the party figures out what you did and petitions... not a great idea.

doubt it

[cd288]

Yea I dunno, I think you could get banned for that, if the party figures out what you did and petitions... not a great idea.

"Shit sorry guys, have an emergency and I have to log. Gating out. Sorry." is likely enough to avoid any ban

[loramin]

I don't know how the staff do things, but I have to imagine that A) they aren't stupid, B) they have some kind of list of potentially problematic players.

Drop a pet on a group one time? Highly unlikely to get a ban: heck, the odds are good no one would even report you. But keep doing it enough times and people will petition ... and again, while I don't know for sure, I have to assume that when the same player gets petitioned over and over, the staff will take a look at that player.

[loramin]

that when the same player gets petitioned over and over, the staff will take a look at that player.

Then again, counterpoint: Diddly.

[kjs86z2]

"Shit sorry guys, have an emergency and I have to log. Gating out. Sorry." is likely enough to avoid any ban

"grandma on fire, cya"

[Ekco]

I don't know how the staff do things

indiscriminately and with furious anger.

[Zuranthium]

Yea I dunno, I think you could get banned for that, if the party figures out what you did and petitions... not a great idea.

Nobody can get banned for that LOL. It's the risk anyone takes grouping with a charm pet or someone who can FD. Don't group with someone again if think they caused a slaughter on purpose. That's supposed to be the entirety of how EQ operates - people can do whatever they want if it's not harassment/hacking, and if you don't like it then try to blacklist them from your alliance.

[Drueric]

Nobody can get banned for that LOL. It's the risk anyone takes grouping with a charm pet or someone who can FD. Don't group with someone again if think they caused a slaughter on purpose. That's supposed to be the entirety of how EQ operates - people can do whatever they want if it's not harassment/hacking, and if you don't like it then try to blacklist them from your alliance.

It would be the equivalent of a monk dragging an overleveled mob to your group and FD with the intention of getting you killed.

[Drueric]

And of course depends on whether people are pissed off enough at to petition it.

[Swish]

It seems fine for necros to pull out a summoned pet (when there's undead charmables available), but try that on an enchanter in any group and see the looks of disgust... :D

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[Cecily]

Oh that's a good one! If you need to make your enchanter summon pet attack a mob, unlike most pets in Everquest, your pet will only help if you get hit first. An easy way to do that would be to root everything. If you get closer to a rooted mob than anyone else it'll attack you, and then you can back up with your pet helping kill the mob!

[Wakanda]

ofc you can AFK as an enchanter in a group

step 1: announce you need to afk

step 2: invis-drop pet in the middle of your group

step 3: go afk

no way in hell :p i always have the sickest pet from someone else's camp i will legit never get back if i do this :p the type of pet that wipes my group if i die

[WarpathEQ]

Guy talks about being an elite enchanter and references grouping in the same sentence, lulz

[kjs86z2]

Guy talks about being an elite enchanter and references grouping in the same sentence, lulz

sometimes its fun to group

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

It seems fine for necros to pull out a summoned pet (when there's undead charmables available), but try that on an enchanter in any group and see the looks of disgust... :D

Zumaik`s Animation is more fun than a tunnel full of goblins, wink wink.