Quarm was resurrected, but now it is in Luclin.

[Wakanda]

https://i.ibb.co/27NQnQFv/atz.png

They will also be adding custom race and classes such as Iksar Rogue and Iksar Ranger, Barbarian Paladin etc.

I'll still be playing on P99, but I think that the Iksar Rangers and Rogues will be a VERY neat idea !!!!!!

[Wakanda]

In hindsight I would say Iksar Rogue and Ranger is so OP why would you ever play any other race, but I guess if Quarm is going to have a lot of AAs and PoP era regen gear, the iksar stuff might not be game breaking in the long run �� but on P99 I feel like an iksar rogue may be so good you can’t play anything else ��

Also if there will be Iksar Rangers, wouldn’t there also need to be Iksar Druids?? Serious question ☠️

[Wakanda]

NVM. Trolls and Ogres don’t have necromancer, but they can still be SK.

Half elves don’t have clerics, but they can still be Paladins etc. ��

I kind of didn’t think this one through all the way.

[Reiwa]

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I hope her wife is OK.

[Ekco]

grats Quarm players.

[greatdane]

They will also be adding custom race and classes such as Iksar Rogue and Iksar Ranger, Barbarian Paladin etc.

I'll still be playing on P99, but I think that the Iksar Rangers and Rogues will be a VERY neat idea !!!!!!

These aren't being added, they're being removed. Quarm had these already but DBG apparently want them gone.

[Wakanda]

These aren't being added, they're being removed. Quarm had these already but DBG apparently want them gone.

man, my reading comprehension sucks. I read that multiple times too and was like damn this sounds sick, but couldn't understand why an agreement with Darkpaw games required them to add these cool race/class combos ;) like that actually did confuse me.

I wonder if they will help the people who lose their character? Like will it be possible if someone was a level 60 Iksar Rogue with some sick gear that they can now be a gnome rogue or something instead? Or will they just lose their character entirely??

[shovelquest]

show of good faith

(NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOU).

[Keebz]

I'm surprised they didn't have to concede more, like guild instances. All the QoL stuff puts them pretty much in direct competition with the base game.

[Zuranthium]

Well good for them, even though Luclin and Planes of Power and instances and mounts are abominations.

Don't mention AA's as some special thing. That could already be added at any point, it's not required to kill the game world and have all those ugly, plastic Luclin/PoP zones in the game.

[CrazyPro]

https://i.ibb.co/27NQnQFv/atz.png

They will also be adding custom race and classes such as Iksar Rogue and Iksar Ranger, Barbarian Paladin etc.

I'll still be playing on P99, but I think that the Iksar Rangers and Rogues will be a VERY neat idea !!!!!!

No, they're REMOVING their custom race/class combos.

[Jimjam]

Grats Secrets

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Good. Enable char xfers on p99 servers now.

[Swish]

Is your body ready? :)

[Wakanda]

Is your body ready? :)

I have a black panther beast lord named Wakanda on Mischief. Hence my name on here. :D

[Tann]

Removing those horrid custom classes? My immersion restored, praise be!

[Reiwa]

Is your body ready? :)

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25750&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1752623309

As I recall the Shar Vahl royals area were all stuck in permanent T-pose and it never got fixed on the TAKP codebase, which is what I think Quarm uses.

[shovelquest]

funny how DBG is like, ok you can do the mod, but not with this, but you ahve to do this, and dont do this, and whatever you do dont do this.

and its all like unique for each case sceanrio.

Seems like itd be less expensive and make more money to just create a platform where they can host all the EMUs

[Reiwa]

funny how DBG is like, ok you can do the mod, but not with this, but you ahve to do this, and dont do this, and whatever you do dont do this.

and its all like unique for each case sceanrio.

Seems like itd be less expensive and make more money to just create a platform where they can host all the EMUs

A lot of dumb things are hardcoded to the client, like for example Donal's BP they claim is coded IN THE CLIENT to give an extra 1 point of mana regen from its debuff on TAKP.

That's the only example I can think of offhand but you get my meaning.

[Reiwa]

Also some particular settings aren't editable in the local user files, also existing in the land of wind and ghosts of the client.

[WarpathEQ]

funny how DBG is like, ok you can do the mod, but not with this, but you ahve to do this, and dont do this, and whatever you do dont do this.

and its all like unique for each case sceanrio.

Seems like itd be less expensive and make more money to just create a platform where they can host all the EMUs

I mean its worked so well for raid rules/disputes all these years...

[cd288]

Sucks for those who will lose their characters from this, but the risk you take when you play on non-P99 servers

[WarpathEQ]

Sucks for those who will lose their characters from this, but the risk you take when you play on non-P99 servers

I highly doubt the idea of losing anything exists in the everyone gets a medal project. I bet if you DM secrets after you roll a new toon they will give that toon the level and gear that you had before.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Sucks for those who will lose their characters from this, but the risk you take when you play on non-P99 servers

I remember my Daddy, may he RIP, first telling me this lesson.

"Don't go chasing waterfalls," he crooned to me, "Just stick to the minigames on p99 that you're used to."

[Cecily]

I highly doubt the idea of losing anything exists in the everyone gets a medal project. I bet if you DM secrets after you roll a new toon they will give that toon the level and gear that you had before.
Talk all the shit you want, but I had TWO of the original manastones on Quarm.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Talk all the shit you want, but I had TWO of the original manastones on Quarm.

Don't go chasing mana stones.....

[WarpathEQ]

Talk all the shit you want, but I had TWO of the original manastones on Quarm.

And for clarity he just means he got 2 manastones during the legacy timeline they drop in(which is a common if not 100% drop on that project), not 2 of the first to drop on the server which had many drop on day 1 of them being available.

The legacy items continue to drop past the legacy timeline they just change it slightly to pretend its not the same.

[Dundrige]

Project 1999 is where its at!

[Findlyn]

Sucks for those who will lose their characters from this, but the risk you take when you play on non-P99 servers

No body is losing a single thing tho. Those that are the class/race combos that are being removed, are getting a "free" NG+ to the race they want that will put them back to the level they were.

and guess what, PQ is now the same on safe long-term viability as P99. P99 no longer has the monopoly of having an agreement to run the emu server. They just had to remove the custom content which is like 5% or less honestly. Things that people played on PQ for, are still there. Guild/PVP instances, bottleneck reduction, NG+, S/SF/HC modes are all still in game. Still allowed to have zeal.

Cope more but PQ has all that p99 and more. Granted, some people dont want "more", and that is fine. For those that do PQ is another great safe home when its back up alongside p99 now. With more PvP on it, despite being a pve server, than all of red.

[Zuranthium]

No body is losing a single thing tho.

Aside from wasting your life playing on a Luclin/PoP server. Just that little thing.

[vales]

and guess what, PQ is now the same on safe long-term viability as P99. P99 no longer has the monopoly of having an agreement to run the emu server. They just had to remove the custom content which is like 5% or less honestly. Things that people played on PQ for, are still there. Guild/PVP instances, bottleneck reduction, NG+, S/SF/HC modes are all still in game. Still allowed to have zeal.
Quarm was never intended to be what it's now forced to be. It lost its future in the agreement. Not only that, but knowing that so many things can never happen will demoralize the server.

NG+/S/SF/HC aren't much of a draw since they aren't fleshed out and don't offer you anything that you can't impose on yourself (and now they can never). It's basically just loot pinata TAKP without multiboxing now.

It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out 6-9 months after it finally updates to planes of power, since I always felt a large contributor to its population was slow rolling classic->velious.

[Drueric]

All I took from this was... quarm gets to have luclin. P99 devs.. luclin, lets go.

[cd288]

No body is losing a single thing tho. Those that are the class/race combos that are being removed, are getting a "free" NG+ to the race they want that will put them back to the level they were.

and guess what, PQ is now the same on safe long-term viability as P99. P99 no longer has the monopoly of having an agreement to run the emu server. They just had to remove the custom content which is like 5% or less honestly. Things that people played on PQ for, are still there. Guild/PVP instances, bottleneck reduction, NG+, S/SF/HC modes are all still in game. Still allowed to have zeal.

Cope more but PQ has all that p99 and more. Granted, some people dont want "more", and that is fine. For those that do PQ is another great safe home when its back up alongside p99 now. With more PvP on it, despite being a pve server, than all of red.

Why are you so sensitive? Who writes "cope more" in response to someone wondering if characters will be lost and saying that sucks for the people playing them? How is that even an applicable response? What a weirdo lol

PQ signed a legal agreement with Daybreak to operate? Did that just happen?

[Findlyn]

Aside from wasting your life playing on a Luclin/PoP server. Just that little thing.

One could say same thing about playing on a server that once you hit max lvl there is nothing but toxic raid environment. Forever stuck in Velious. People can enjoy multiple or different things. Its not all or nothing.

To each their own.

[Findlyn]

Quarm was never intended to be what it's now forced to be. It lost its future in the agreement. Not only that, but knowing that so many things can never happen will demoralize the server.

NG+/S/SF/HC aren't much of a draw since they aren't fleshed out and don't offer you anything that you can't impose on yourself (and now they can never). It's basically just loot pinata TAKP without multiboxing now.

It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out 6-9 months after it finally updates to planes of power, since I always felt a large contributor to its population was slow rolling classic->velious.

You seem to have zero idea what Quarm was supposed to be. The added races and one or two instances that are going away, was never what Quarm was about. They were just extra on top added after the server had been going.

I agree the ng s/sf/hc stuff isn't a main draw, it's just added content to what's already there for those who want. It's not intrusive (for the most part) and great for those who want to engage with it, while if you dont it's easy to ignore.

You say its draw was classic-velious, while most of the time I've heard people say they haven't started is because they have done that already on P99. They were waiting for luclin/pop to play for something new.

[Findlyn]

Why are you so sensitive? Who writes "cope more" in response to someone wondering if characters will be lost and saying that sucks for the people playing them? How is that even an applicable response? What a weirdo lol

PQ signed a legal agreement with Daybreak to operate? Did that just happen?

Yeah, PQ has a formal agreement similar to P99 now. Reason why it's still down is Secrets is coding to remove the custom content and have the non-raid luclin content ready to go.

Also, cope moar

[vales]

You seem to have zero idea what Quarm was supposed to be. The added races and one or two instances that are going away, was never what Quarm was about.
Well, maybe I was mistaken to think Secrets' own idea of what it was supposed to be held more weight than yours.

[Zuranthium]

One could say same thing about playing on a server that once you hit max lvl there is nothing but toxic raid environment. Forever stuck in Velious. People can enjoy multiple or different things. Its not all or nothing.

To each their own.

Once you're bored of raiding, there's Solo/Duo/Trio challenges to do! Contribute any Velious related info you have here, so we can get all the MOBs into the most accurate tiers - https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442002. I'll also start a thread for Kunark/Classic content in a bit. Also, play on Red server to avoid the rat race of Green/Blue - much faster exp (with better rewards for grouping) and content is more open.

That said, there's no amazing server to play on. All are flawed, because none are trying to build on what classic Everquest is supposed to be - a dynamic MMORPG. But at least with classic era emulation, it shows some of the pieces of how the game should be. It's worth playing, for awhile, for nostalgia or reference purposes. Whereas Luclin/PoP destroy the game world and look ugly and artificial. Just ick. It's brainrot and represents the evil, inhuman corporatization of the MMORPG genre. Don't support that!

[Findlyn]

Whereas Luclin/PoP destroy the game world and look ugly and artificial. Just ick. It's brainrot and represents the evil, inhuman corporatization of the MMORPG genre. Don't support that!

Just your personal opinion, not an objective fact. I agree the Luclin PC models are atrocious, thankfully you don't have to use them on PQ to still benefit from having a mount (no speed but get the regen at least from what I understand).

How am I supporting "evil inhuman corporations" by playing an old, emulated server that is free? Also, it was made by the same company, so by extension you are supporting those things. You are just cherry picking because you happen to prefer a particular era.

[zelld52]

i agree with Zura that the luclin + era zones were awful. gone were the days of nice straight-edges and they added a bunch of dumb lookin curvy hills (Dawnshroud ew)

[Findlyn]

I get people that don't like the aesthetics of the later expansions. I am generally the type of person that doesn't care about the graphics, if I enjoy the overall gameplay.

Also, Luclin should be "alien" it's on the moon!

I get the feeling for hate of "curvy", I am so looking forward to Ardullan Online, nothing but edges :D

[Zuranthium]

How am I supporting "evil inhuman corporations" by playing an old, emulated server that is free? Also, it was made by the same company, so by extension you are supporting those things. You are just cherry picking because you happen to prefer a particular era.

Companies change over time. It wasn't the same people working on Luclin/PoP and the game kept becoming more artificial as time went on, because the company wasn't focused on trying to improve the initial flaws and evolve the game in such a way that it could truly be an online D&D game with graphics, as it was meant to be. Instead they were just trying to push out more static content for the constantly growing player base.

Luclin/PoP show the evil corporatization of a product, where there's little/no concern for the well being of an ecosystem or the purpose something was meant to have, only a concern about how to keep making more money in the moment. Similar to how companies pump out unhealthy food, which consumers buy because they don't know any better or because they don't have other options. People need to fill their stomach with something, so it allows the consumers to be exploited and the system to not improve. Modern MMORPG's are centered around providing basic dopamine hits, rather than a higher degree of intellectual or creative or emotional stimulation, and supporting those bad games feeds into the proliferation of them, detracting from the progress of superior options.

[Ciderpress]

p99 stops at velious for a good reason

[ashentco]

Quarm was never intended to be what it's now forced to be. It lost its future in the agreement. Not only that, but knowing that so many things can never happen will demoralize the server.

NG+/S/SF/HC aren't much of a draw since they aren't fleshed out and don't offer you anything that you can't impose on yourself (and now they can never). It's basically just loot pinata TAKP without multiboxing now.

It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out 6-9 months after it finally updates to planes of power, since I always felt a large contributor to its population was slow rolling classic->velious.

Some people may have liked the idea of the custom content, but to be honest, myself and most of the people I play with on PQ don't care at all about Secrets' bullshit wastes of time on non-classic features. I made a char on Quarm just to revisit Luclin and PoP again without going dumpster diving on TLPs. I'm HAPPY that DBG told Secrets to remove the custom shit she was building, I find it annoying and detrimental to the experience.

[MageBlue]

Companies change over time. It wasn't the same people working on Luclin/PoP and the game kept becoming more artificial as time went on, because the company wasn't focused on trying to improve the initial flaws and evolve the game in such a way that it could truly be an online D&D game with graphics, as it was meant to be. Instead they were just trying to push out more static content for the constantly growing player base.

Luclin/PoP show the evil corporatization of a product, where there's little/no concern for the well being of an ecosystem or the purpose something was meant to have, only a concern about how to keep making more money in the moment. Similar to how companies pump out unhealthy food, which consumers buy because they don't know any better or because they don't have other options. People need to fill their stomach with something, so it allows the consumers to be exploited and the system to not improve. Modern MMORPG's are centered around providing basic dopamine hits, rather than a higher degree of intellectual or creative or emotional stimulation, and supporting those bad games feeds into the proliferation of them, detracting from the progress of superior options.


How big of a job would it be for Rogean and the other p99 devs to add AAs to Velious?

>>

Also if Secrets was able to negotiate with DBG for PQ to legally operate, Rogean should probably verify adding AAs to Velious is allowed or the contract needs to be updated.

While they are talking to DBG maybe Rogean can ask if they can operate another p99 server ( so 4 instead of 3 ) - can just show p99 player populations on all 3 servers for a week to show that p99 is not wildly popular like THJ was.

[Findlyn]

Some people may have liked the idea of the custom content, but to be honest, myself and most of the people I play with on PQ don't care at all about Secrets' bullshit wastes of time on non-classic features. I made a char on Quarm just to revisit Luclin and PoP again without going dumpster diving on TLPs. I'm HAPPY that DBG told Secrets to remove the custom shit she was building, I find it annoying and detrimental to the experience.

Honestly, I look forward to not having people yelling for stupid inane changes 24/7 now. Also I started, and everyone that I've played with, started for basically the same reasons. A eq server that goes to pop, that doesn't allow bots or boxing. The guild instances and other stuff it has now just made it awesome for those of us that don't care if other people get loot. To me, if everyone has half bis after a couple months, that is more than fine. I don't base my own self-worth off of exclusive pixels. I just want to have fun with people while killing things and getting upgrades on occasion.

[Drueric]

p99 stops at velious for a good reason

And what is that reason?

[vales]

And what is that reason?
luclin is too different from how the game was in 1999

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Remove the travel systems implemented in Luclin and PoP and see how things evolve. If you need a ride make friends with a druid or wizzie.

The fact both Luclin and PoP become unplayable monstrosities if you remove luclin and Pop travel zones and mechanics, is proof of what many are saying here.

Luclin and PoP turned the gameworld into a lobby where you are waiting on action.

[Findlyn]

If getting around the world to get in groups in a reasonable time, or not having to commit half an hour+ just to travel, is the idea of the best gameplay...

When your concept of making a game "hard" or "engaging" has more to do with some arbitrary time gating, I think you truly don't understand why a lot of people play on Quarm. Most of us are "been there, done that" either in EQ or other various MMO's/games over the years. We want to just relax, kill some monsters, and collect some loot with friends/guildies. Really not that much different than P99, except on quarm it's actually encouraged to have a health IRL balance imo.

I can understand the people who don't want to do luclin/pop because it doesn't fit what they consider EQ aethestic. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. However, not sitting around and hoping there is a DAP(which is virtually non existant on PQ), or someone has access to an account with a druid to port(also another more common thing ive experienced that happens on p99 vs quarm is account sharing). Try getting around if you dont have any friends who main or has a druid on their actual account, and no access to something like DAP, its miserable.

[Findlyn]

If getting around the world to get in groups in a reasonable time, instead of* ...

really hate unable to edit when i miss something

[zelld52]

I think you truly don't understand why a lot of people play on Quarm. Most of us are...

FOUND THE FILTHY CASUAL!

But one of the problems with Luclin is that it introduced a bunch of new early-game zones, which thinned out the already thinning out server populations across a larger world. Old zones started feeling empty - and that trend just continued with each xPac to be introduced. Nobody was in Crushbone or Unrest, etc, anymore, because everyone went to Paludal.

Some xPacs like PoP or Gates of Discord, for instance, I really enjoyed. Those xPacs added mostly end-game content, and left the early game alone (for the most part). So it appealed to the people who had been playing on servers for years and wanted new challenges for their max-level toons.

Well, that and of course the ROUNDED HILLS EW

[cd288]

Yeah, PQ has a formal agreement similar to P99 now. Reason why it's still down is Secrets is coding to remove the custom content and have the non-raid luclin content ready to go.

Also, cope moar

If you don't like P99 then why are you here?

[cd288]

Oh wow I just read that PQ is capped at 1,200 players via it's agreement with Daybreak? That's wild

[Ekco]

If you don't like P99 then why are you here?

name a better vBulletin® Emulator server in 2025 than p99 forums that isn't somethingawful.com

[Reiwa]

Oh wow I just read that PQ is capped at 1,200 players via it's agreement with Daybreak? That's wild

I think that has the opposite effect. People will go harder knowing there's a limit.

[zelld52]

I think that has the opposite effect. People will go harder knowing there's a limit.

My friend used to own a restaurant in Los Angeles. He would pay people to stand in line to generate interest in the restaurant. It worked like gangbusters.

[Zuranthium]

Daybreak wasn't targeting Quarm, very strange they did that to themselves. Why poke a sleeping bear. Daybreak also has no capability to monitor what exactly is coded on a server, they can't enforce hardly any demand really, aside from super obvious ones like server caps, since that's easily viewable.

[Jimjam]

FOUND THE FILTHY CASUAL!

But one of the problems with Luclin is that it introduced a bunch of new early-game zones, which thinned out the already thinning out server populations across a larger world. Old zones started feeling empty - and that trend just continued with each xPac to be introduced. Nobody was in Crushbone or Unrest, etc, anymore, because everyone went to Paludal.

Some xPacs like PoP or Gates of Discord, for instance, I really enjoyed. Those xPacs added mostly end-game content, and left the early game alone (for the most part). So it appealed to the people who had been playing on servers for years and wanted new challenges for their max-level toons.

Well, that and of course the ROUNDED HILLS EW

I think you’ve put the cart before the horse. Before Luclin dropped the newbie zones and suboptimal zones were already rather empty. Luclin was the cure, not the poison, it consolidated the disparate players into a single spot where they could act as a functional population.

[Drueric]

Oh wow I just read that PQ is capped at 1,200 players via it's agreement with Daybreak? That's wild

Dont they allow multiboxing? Oops...

[Findlyn]

Dont they allow multiboxing? Oops...

No, youre are confusing Quarm with Takp servers. Quarm is a single box server like p99.

[Findlyn]

If you don't like P99 then why are you here?

Its like path of exile, you actually play path of building more than PoE. I chat more on p99 forums than in p99 servers.

I've played in the past and don't discount playing again in the future should a new server comes out. I just have no desire to play on a server at the moment that is so old and established/top heavy at this time.

I see the changes/fixes that imply somewhere down the road there will be a new tlp esque server, looking forward to seeing what it's like.

[cd288]

I think that has the opposite effect. People will go harder knowing there's a limit.

Think you're missing my point. Why would I want to play on a server if I'm going to be limited in logging in because of a player count cap. Think the cap will only serve over time to reduce PQ population to consistently below the cap...that's obviously the goal and intent of Daybreak in imposing it.

[WarpathEQ]

Think you're missing my point. Why would I want to play on a server if I'm going to be limited in logging in because of a player count cap. Think the cap will only serve over time to reduce PQ population to consistently below the cap...that's obviously the goal and intent of Daybreak in imposing it.

Presumably its just a cap on the number of people active on the server at any given time, which 1200 would be pretty healthy and probably in line with how they size live servers.

It is pretty ironic though to have the potential for forced scarcity in a project made almost specificly to eliminate scarcity of anything in the game entirely.

[Reiwa]

Think you're missing my point. Why would I want to play on a server if I'm going to be limited in logging in because of a player count cap. Think the cap will only serve over time to reduce PQ population to consistently below the cap...that's obviously the goal and intent of Daybreak in imposing it.

Doesn't PQ also have an inactivity timer that logs you out after some period?

I think I read they're turning bazaar accounts into standard accounts as well.

[Reiwa]

What I mean there is you're going to see an abundance of 18 minute autoclickers to save your spot in line until you're ready to play. Or however long is necessary.

[cd288]

What I mean there is you're going to see an abundance of 18 minute autoclickers to save your spot in line until you're ready to play. Or however long is necessary.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are close to 1,200 that a bunch of people just get autoclick macros/scripts going so they are never logged out

[Wakanda]

FOUND THE FILTHY CASUAL!

But one of the problems with Luclin is that it introduced a bunch of new early-game zones, which thinned out the already thinning out server populations across a larger world. Old zones started feeling empty - and that trend just continued with each xPac to be introduced. Nobody was in Crushbone or Unrest, etc, anymore, because everyone went to Paludal.

I loved Luclin, PoP an, Legacy of Ykesha and even LDoN when they happened 20+ years ago. Felt like great additions to the game. At the time we weren't caught up on nostalgia or "what is classic" and just wanted more content.

Discovered P99 a few years ago and loved it. So when Mischief launched I was also super excited about getting to experience Luclin and PoP again.

Luclin came out and for starters, Luclin models, even though I thought they were revolutionary at the time... aged terribly. I refused to use them on TLPs. Secondly, to mirror what you are saying, I came to the same conclusion. Once Luclin was out the entire game was Paludal Caverns > Marus Seru > (can't remember what came next) > Grieg's End. Everything about early EQ is completely irrelevant and gone.

I think this was the point the P99 Devs were making by stopping at Velious. Obviously. Just agreeing with the point you make about how Luclin completely kills the old world.

It's sad the early devs from WoW didn't learn about this, but I don't think they care. It's more profitable in their minds just to make a new expac, but meanwhile their playerbase has dwindled while 99% of their content is obsolete and untouched. Such a waste.

[WarpathEQ]

I loved Luclin, PoP an, Legacy of Ykesha and even LDoN when they happened 20+ years ago. Felt like great additions to the game. At the time we weren't caught up on nostalgia or "what is classic" and just wanted more content.

Discovered P99 a few years ago and loved it. So when Mischief launched I was also super excited about getting to experience Luclin and PoP again.

Luclin came out and for starters, Luclin models, even though I thought they were revolutionary at the time... aged terribly. I refused to use them on TLPs. Secondly, to mirror what you are saying, I came to the same conclusion. Once Luclin was out the entire game was Paludal Caverns > Marus Seru > (can't remember what came next) > Grieg's End. Everything about early EQ is completely irrelevant and gone.

I think this was the point the P99 Devs were making by stopping at Velious. Obviously. Just agreeing with the point you make about how Luclin completely kills the old world.

It's sad the early devs from WoW didn't learn about this, but I don't think they care. It's more profitable in their minds just to make a new expac, but meanwhile their playerbase has dwindled while 99% of their content is obsolete and untouched. Such a waste.

This would have also been on the backdrop of WoW and EQ2 being developed around the time these expansions were being pushed out so I would imagine that it was viewed as a benefit to obsolete a portion of the world and concentrate the mass of player base to the new areas to maintain that massive MMO feel in the face of competition.

[Wakanda]

Its like path of exile, you actually play path of building more than PoE. I chat more on p99 forums than in p99 servers..

This is the main reason I shit post on rants and flames 😹 there’s no general discussion for p99 (which is weird) and meeting someone who knew what EQ was and being able to have discussions with them about it is so rare that this place is basically therapeutic for me

[JayDee]

I heard the population isnt even reaching cap after luclin which is crazy considering i was expecting thousands of players. Daybreak neutering the server must have hurt the potential population

[chillybob]

they were rarely hitting cap before the lawsuit aside from expac launches as is, the cap was an odd stipulation from darkpaw lames

[Swish]

I heard the population isnt even reaching cap after luclin which is crazy considering i was expecting thousands of players. Daybreak neutering the server must have hurt the potential population

Finding a group in the 40s is getting quite difficult for a server of its online population. Everyone's 60 and hammering AAs or rolling alts and redoing Unrest again and again.

That said I asked for a port in the not-classic ports global channel the other day and got 5 replies in a few seconds. Said yes to the first one, apologized in the ports channel and said I got one with (1st one name)... then one of the others turned up anyway just hoping.

No wonder <Dial A Port> lost the market :o

[shovelquest]

It's crazy that there are 2.1k on THJ tonight.

[Cecily]

Which boss in Luclin is Quarm anyway?

[Raj]

I will see your cats on the moon real soon my friend

[Raj]

Companies change over time. It wasn't the same people working on Luclin/PoP and the game kept becoming more artificial as time went on, because the company wasn't focused on trying to improve the initial flaws and evolve the game in such a way that it could truly be an online D&D game with graphics, as it was meant to be. Instead they were just trying to push out more static content for the constantly growing player base.

Luclin/PoP show the evil corporatization of a product, where there's little/no concern for the well being of an ecosystem or the purpose something was meant to have, only a concern about how to keep making more money in the moment. Similar to how companies pump out unhealthy food, which consumers buy because they don't know any better or because they don't have other options. People need to fill their stomach with something, so it allows the consumers to be exploited and the system to not improve. Modern MMORPG's are centered around providing basic dopamine hits, rather than a higher degree of intellectual or creative or emotional stimulation, and supporting those bad games feeds into the proliferation of them, detracting from the progress of superior options.

What a great evil that was my friend. Im glad we all seemed to have survived the Luclin Holocaust somehow. Those of us over a certain age anyways :cool:

[Raj]

Which boss in Luclin is Quarm anyway?

Wrong expack I think you inquired about, Quarm is the final boss of the B Time Dimension of the PoP expack. Hope this helps you my friend :cool:

[Jimjam]

Wrong expack I think you inquired about, Quarm is the final boss of the B Time Dimension of the PoP expack. Hope this helps you my friend :cool:

Hi Raj!

I believe our pal C may be joking that the server is named after the PoP expac box, yet the server has had it’s final expansion revised to SoL.

[Raj]

Hi Raj!

I believe our pal C may be joking that the server is named after the PoP expac box, yet the server has had it’s final expansion revised to SoL.

Hi JimJam, is this really true? Or are you saying the the Luclin is the current final expack or that this Quorm server is never to be reaching the Time dimension or any other Planes now?? :eek:

Forgive me my friend for not knowing these things, I have not been looking into Everquest for some time

[Tann]

PoP has been removed from the release timeline on PQ's discord, the communications on reddit and such don't mention it getting nuked, just that they rushed Luclin out the door to appease Daybreak.

[Tann]

PoP has been removed from the release timeline on PQ's discord, the communications on reddit and such don't mention it getting nuked, just that they rushed Luclin out the door to appease Daybreak.

oh shit neve rmind, it says PoP slated for Oct 2026

[Jimjam]

oh shit neve rmind, it says PoP slated for Oct 2026

Oh, okay. That is interesting info. Sorry I regurgitated misinformation easier, guys.

[Xer0]

Is your body ready? :)

Hell yes!

Fun fact: Cats on the moon is totally ripped from the works of Lovecraft.