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Wakanda
07-04-2025, 11:32 AM
This is not staff bashing, as I'm sure the events are well intended, and honestly I enjoyed them myself years ago.

Some of my fondest P99 memories were getting drunk on July 4th when P99 Green was still a new server. I was doing the Kobold Royals camp, and went through an entire 24-pack of Budweiser trying to get through level 45, which is considered an extreme hell level during this era of the game. There was no XP or loot bonus, but I had the time off, as did a lot of other players, and it was an epic marathon for all of us.

I find this to be the opposite experience in 2025.

It does not feel like the holiday bonus events bring in new or returning players, but rather, incentivizes the most active players to swap to their alts and monopolize areas of the game they would otherwise be uninterested in.

It's not the end of the world or anything, but from my perspective, I would rather enjoy my July 4th just hanging out in my room drinking beer and playing my favorite game rather than finding myself logging off after swapping to five different characters only to find every single camp in the game over-run with a long line of twinks or PL groups that have zero interest or need to add a random player to their group.

That's just my opinion though. Hopefully everyone else is having fun. I'm still going to get drunk, and hopefully convince a few of my friends to start some new characters on the Classic WoW anniversary server :) no XP or loot bonuses there, but 4 days off should be enough time to get our characters into WC and possibly even SFK if we really gun it !

F0rmsh1fter
07-04-2025, 11:39 AM
It’s not the holiday event, it’s the dead, stagnating server

F R E S H W H E N

Ciderpress
07-04-2025, 11:56 AM
I'm not sure I get the logic with regard to leveling, but I see your point about farming. Just logged into chardok quick and every single named is taken.

I find there are a lot more pickup groups during bonus though.

Wakanda
07-04-2025, 12:18 PM
It’s not the holiday event, it’s the dead, stagnating server

F R E S H W H E N

Well I generally play a few hours every night and it's pretty chill so IDK???

Wakanda
07-04-2025, 12:20 PM
I'm not sure I get the logic with regard to leveling, but I see your point about farming. Just logged into chardok quick and every single named is taken.

I find there are a lot more pickup groups during bonus though.

Could be a side effect of all of my characters being 52'ish. All the stuff I mostly solo for hours without running into another player suddenly has a long line of twinks standing around trying to get their shot at the camp. I decided to check out City of Mist and KC since I do occasionally get groups there and it's over-run with a bunch of level 60s PL'ing guild groups. It's not serious either way, but I do think the holiday events have the opposite effect of making the holidays enjoyable for regular players.

tunne
07-04-2025, 12:37 PM
This is not staff bashing, as I'm sure the events are well intended, and honestly I enjoyed them myself years ago.

Some of my fondest P99 memories were getting drunk on July 4th when P99 Green was still a new server. I was doing the Kobold Royals camp, and went through an entire 24-pack of Budweiser trying to get through level 45, which is considered an extreme hell level during this era of the game. There was no XP or loot bonus, but I had the time off, as did a lot of other players, and it was an epic marathon for all of us.

I find this to be the opposite experience in 2025.

It does not feel like the holiday bonus events bring in new or returning players, but rather, incentivizes the most active players to swap to their alts and monopolize areas of the game they would otherwise be uninterested in.

It's not the end of the world or anything, but from my perspective, I would rather enjoy my July 4th just hanging out in my room drinking beer and playing my favorite game rather than finding myself logging off after swapping to five different characters only to find every single camp in the game over-run with a long line of twinks or PL groups that have zero interest or need to add a random player to their group.

That's just my opinion though. Hopefully everyone else is having fun. I'm still going to get drunk, and hopefully convince a few of my friends to start some new characters on the Classic WoW anniversary server :) no XP or loot bonuses there, but 4 days off should be enough time to get our characters into WC and possibly even SFK if we really gun it !

throw down a challenge

wuanahto
07-05-2025, 01:50 AM
im calling bs because no one does royals anymore

Wakanda
07-05-2025, 04:00 AM
im calling bs because no one does royals anymore

Are we talking about HK royals? They are camped around the clock even outside of holidays. Same with Felwithe and Paineel guards. Even Grobb is fairly well camped during normal hours.

Fingurs
07-05-2025, 01:07 PM
Your whole post could be summarized by saying:

Fear of Missing Out.

Fun is subjective. Some people look at you drinking beer like a mad man, like -- sweet enjoy the heart disease and obesity! Some people look at it, like one guy posted -- lets go, challenge time, drink yay.

Lots of folks don't get a lot of time off except around the holidays and love playing games, so the staff doing bonuses etc, is like magic for them.

In conclusion, 4th of July is celebration alot of things, including freedom. Let people do wtf they want, and you do you.

F0rmsh1fter
07-05-2025, 02:35 PM
Your whole post could be summarized by saying:

Fear of Missing Out.

Fun is subjective. Some people look at you drinking beer like a mad man, like -- sweet enjoy the heart disease and obesity! Some people look at it, like one guy posted -- lets go, challenge time, drink yay.

Lots of folks don't get a lot of time off except around the holidays and love playing games, so the staff doing bonuses etc, is like magic for them.

In conclusion, 4th of July is celebration alot of things, including freedom. Let people do wtf they want, and you do you.

Which freedoms exactly? That we did away with a 2% tax on a single item to be free to get taxed into the dirt with no representation?

Reiwa
07-06-2025, 01:13 AM
Which freedoms exactly? That we did away with a 2% tax on a single item to be free to get taxed into the dirt with no representation?

The intolerable acts were mostly intolerable because they were extractive to a foreign land. British home islands residents paid plenty of tax to their own government, as did the citizens of the individual colonial governments.

5. Window Tax

Description: A tax based on the number of windows in a house.

Details: Introduced in 1696 and in effect during the 18th century, the window tax was a proxy for wealth, as larger homes with more windows paid higher rates. Rates varied, but by the 1760s, households with more windows faced steeper taxes (e.g., 6d to 1s per window for larger homes).

Significance: This tax was unpopular, as it led some homeowners to brick up windows to reduce their tax burden. It disproportionately affected the middle and upper classes but was seen as intrusive.

6. Hearth Tax (until 1689, but not during the Revolution)Description: A tax on the number of hearths (fireplaces) in a household.

Details: While this tax was abolished in England in 1689, it’s worth noting as part of the historical tax landscape. It was replaced by taxes like the window tax, which served a similar purpose.

Significance: By the 1760s, the hearth tax was no longer in effect, but it had shaped earlier tax policy debates.

tunne
07-06-2025, 02:42 AM
This is not staff bashing

then u not living correctly

Wakanda
07-06-2025, 04:53 AM
throw down a challenge

I had the chance to snipe one of the camps I wanted just now but once I realized the person had just gone to a city to bank I gave them clarity and a rune and wished them well and logged off. I play on Blue because I like to avoid conflict over camps, so I would rather not get into a heated exchange over the PNP regarding a boring camp that people don't normally come to outside of the holidays :) I guess yall could argue I have no right to complain tho.

Wakanda
07-06-2025, 04:58 AM
Your whole post could be summarized by saying:

Fear of Missing Out.

Fun is subjective. Some people look at you drinking beer like a mad man, like -- sweet enjoy the heart disease and obesity! Some people look at it, like one guy posted -- lets go, challenge time, drink yay.

Lots of folks don't get a lot of time off except around the holidays and love playing games, so the staff doing bonuses etc, is like magic for them.

In conclusion, 4th of July is celebration alot of things, including freedom. Let people do wtf they want, and you do you.

IDK if fomo is the right word. I also don't necessarily think I'm trying to control other people. I just wish people played EQ because they enjoyed playing it. If what you were saying was true, and this was people who hardly ever play the game, and were logging in during their 4-day weekend I would agree with this sentiment. But these are players in the top guilds wearing BIS everything at level 50, often times accompanied by a large number of level 60s in their guilds.

I do kind of regret making this thread in hindsight, but I get hyperbolic over P99. I also had a meltdown over logging into find my character was over weight from medicine bags before realizing I could just cast Berserker Spirit thing on myself and bank in Cabilis with Iksar illusion.

That being said, it does bring me a small amount of joy to do drive-by buffs of leveling groups in Oasis during this event because I know how exciting it is to be on the receiving end of these. Playing without clarity in general can feel kind of daunting in this game, but particularly at low level.

Wakanda
07-06-2025, 05:02 AM
The intolerable acts were mostly intolerable because they were extractive to a foreign land. British home islands residents paid plenty of tax to their own government, as did the citizens of the individual colonial governments.

I'm not an expert on any of this, but wasn't the lack of representation what angered them the most? We kind of relate to this in the state where I live. We live very rurally, and pay the same amount of taxes as people living in cities, but we don't feel like we get the same out of our tax dollars as the people who live closer to the capital. We actually have to pave our own roads with our own money etc.

Jimjam
07-06-2025, 01:50 PM
I'm not an expert on any of this, but wasn't the lack of representation what angered them the most? We kind of relate to this in the state where I live. We live very rurally, and pay the same amount of taxes as people living in cities, but we don't feel like we get the same out of our tax dollars as the people who live closer to the capital. We actually have to pave our own roads with our own money etc.

It’s 1984, mate, revolution is just one elite using sound bites to get the poor on board to usurp and overthrow the ruling elite. Not for the benefit of the poor, but for the power-grab of one elite from another.

F0rmsh1fter
07-06-2025, 01:53 PM
The intolerable acts were mostly intolerable because they were extractive to a foreign land. British home islands residents paid plenty of tax to their own government, as did the citizens of the individual colonial governments.

You mean like all our money going to Israel?

Reiwa
07-06-2025, 01:55 PM
You mean like all our money going to Israel?

Unsinkable aircraft carriers are nice.

Ekco
07-06-2025, 02:01 PM
Unsinkable aircraft carriers are nice.

maintenance of this aircraft carrier creates a lot of good jobs too
https://i.imgur.com/wNhzohf.gif

helping fent addicts? not so much.

cd288
07-07-2025, 11:15 AM
Big RecondoJoe vibes from OP

cd288
07-07-2025, 11:16 AM
You mean like all our money going to Israel?

Go read the no politics rules and stfu

Reiwa
07-07-2025, 03:00 PM
Go read the no politics rules and stfu

Forumshitter is an actual nazi and I wish you'd discriminate.

shovelquest
07-07-2025, 03:09 PM
If you have weed. Or pu$$y. We partying.

I don't dick-scriminate.

WarpathEQ
07-08-2025, 11:37 AM
I do find it ironic that I tend to get less exp during exp bonuses due to increased competition for mobs. Definitely love and take full advantage of the loot and faction bonus.

One thing I'm curious about is for the exp bonus does every mob give 50% more exp or did they code it like the loot where there is a 50% chance of getting double?

Ekco
07-08-2025, 12:35 PM
If you have weed. Or pu$$y. We partying.

I don't dick-scriminate.

fucking the racism out of someone is a whole new level of "i can fix her"