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wuanahto
06-30-2025, 02:45 PM
Does Dyzil have a limited duration?
if dyzil is a regular pet why cant it use equipment as per wiki
does rage of zomm "stack" with a regular pet?

PatChapp
06-30-2025, 03:26 PM
Dyzils Is a regular pet. I only ever gave it nuzzles,so no clue if city actually takes gear.
You cannot rage of zomm with a pet up

wuanahto
06-30-2025, 03:56 PM
You cannot rage of zomm with a pet up

ugh, thanks for the info

Snaggles
06-30-2025, 09:24 PM
Rage of Zomm is hot garbage.
Dyzill’s is actually not bad for a tanking fire pet until the 57 Earth. It just does crummy DPS. If root isn’t an issue a focused 49 Earth is the one to use to 57.

Zuranthium
07-01-2025, 03:34 PM
If root isn’t an issue a focused 49 Earth is the one to use to 57.

49 Earth is usually one of the worst pets to use in group, the others do more DPS, and for solo exp grinding the 49 Fire pet is usually best.

loramin
07-01-2025, 04:47 PM
49 Earth is usually one of the worst pets to use in group, the others do more DPS, and for solo exp grinding the 49 Fire pet is usually best.

I have to disagree. Because P99 doesn't implement pet chaining properly, I wouldn't level with anything but the Earth pet here (at 49 or any other level).

With any other pet, you are guaranteed to get beat on the moment you drop the old pet.

DeathsSilkyMist
07-01-2025, 06:10 PM
I have to disagree. Because P99 doesn't implement pet chaining properly, I wouldn't level with anything but the Earth pet here (at 49 or any other level).

With any other pet, you are guaranteed to get beat on the moment you drop the old pet.

I imagine you can get around this by using a bio orb. Blind the mob before chain summoning the next pet, so the mob won't immediately run towards you when the previous pet dies. The mob will attack the new pet when it gets into melee range while it's blinded. Recast bio orb a few times to make sure the new pet agro sticks.

That being said, many people can't afford to put a bio orb on their Mage. Just pointing out you probably could do a pet chain without an earth pet if you had a bio orb in the server's current state.

Zuranthium
07-01-2025, 06:13 PM
You don't need to fight things that require chain pet cast. Fire pet and a couple damage spells is sufficient for killing low blue cons.

Balimon
07-01-2025, 09:05 PM
Does Dyzil have a limited duration?
if dyzil is a regular pet why cant it use equipment as per wiki
does rage of zomm "stack" with a regular pet?

Dyzil's is a regular pet with no duration and the true upgrade to the 1-49 fire pets. It's viability is limited however, you can't focus it with the fire staff and it's melee damage is low for it's level. I don't remember if you can equip it with items. Also it has a fire PBAOE so it's not a great grouping pet (not that fire is generally), it has it's uses on a raid where PBAOE is being used however.

Rage of Zomm summons a giant earth pet that melees for 81, can't be buffed at all and only has a few hit points. It also despawns when the mob it's fighting dies. It's mechanic's are similar to the Wizard sword and Cleric hammer. It does not stack sadly, that would have made it quite useful!

If you're soloing for exp the best pet is generally 49 earth to 57 earth, shoutout to the 49 fire pet which is also quite good for that range. If you're grouping water or air are obviously better.

Snaggles
07-02-2025, 10:55 AM
49 Earth is usually one of the worst pets to use in group, the others do more DPS, and for solo exp grinding the 49 Fire pet is usually best.

The OP asked about DDD which is a different flavor of the same concept, a mid-range tanking pet. I be presumed for solo use as DDD in a group would be mediocre.

Crede
07-02-2025, 07:34 PM
49 fire pet can take you to around lvl 55. Then mobs just have too much hp so switch to earth pets so you don’t pull aggro when raining mobs.

wuanahto
07-02-2025, 09:48 PM
sometimes i wonder if im the only one who gives their pets banded armor for long exp sessions

enjchanter
07-03-2025, 01:42 AM
sometimes i wonder if im the only one who gives their pets banded armor for long exp sessions

I would never do this so you probably are

wuanahto
07-03-2025, 01:58 AM
I would never do this so you probably are

Greatly boosts pet tankablility. rings of flight for ring slots, coldstones for the weapon slots, mild jewelcrafting(electrum topaz) for some cheap ac earrings

its a part of what makes fire pets great, which is why i was wondering if dyzil can use gear

Snaggles
07-03-2025, 10:59 AM
Around Luclin I recall mages could summon pet armor. While some things boost a pet, I expect a pile of banded is doing very little to add to mitigation. Pets are basically attacking mobs near or at their level.

The better gear to give them is a muzzle for haste and a weapon(s) to increase DPS. Argent Defender, Adamantite Bo Staff, Deadwood Staves.

Really though, in the mid/high 50’s it’s far more mana efficient to pull with a big nuke and wait for low health to reclaim your pet and finish with a Sigil. Another reason the earth pet is handy….they are rooted so you can blast with less concern. Then you can summon a fresh pet and wait 7 more minute for the respawn. Soloing my mage in this way 56-60 I didn’t even care if I got a good pet or not so that’s another benefit of the disposable approach.

Balimon
07-03-2025, 10:01 PM
sometimes i wonder if im the only one who gives their pets banded armor for long exp sessions

Yes I absolutely do this, Dyzil's can't equip items sadly, I tested to confirm for ya.

Zuranthium
07-03-2025, 10:15 PM
Dyzil's can't equip items sadly, I tested to confirm for ya.

How about the base attack speed of pets on p99? I've been wanting to add that to the wiki. Gets complicated if it changes between certain pets.

Balimon
07-03-2025, 10:21 PM
How about the base attack speed of pets on p99? I've been wanting to add that to the wiki. Gets complicated if it changes between certain pets.

I'd certainly be willing to test that out, any tips on how I should approach that? Parse data?

Zuranthium
07-03-2025, 10:37 PM
Any timestamped parser should do, yeah.

enjchanter
07-08-2025, 01:21 AM
Greatly boosts pet tankablility. rings of flight for ring slots, coldstones for the weapon slots, mild jewelcrafting(electrum topaz) for some cheap ac earrings

its a part of what makes fire pets great, which is why i was wondering if dyzil can use gear

You couldn't pay me to bother doing this im.sorry

Drueric
09-08-2025, 03:29 AM
I havent tried rage of zomm yet on p99, but on other eq server it only lasts 30 seconds, regardless of its description. Does it actually stay til mob is dead here?

boomslang
10-26-2025, 07:12 PM
Because P99 doesn't implement pet chaining properly

FTFY:

Because P99 fucked up the pet chaining with no notice, no acknowledgement, and despite mountains of evidence still won't fix it.