Blue/Green Merge 2025 - The time has come

[Viscere]

Do it Sean

[Allishia]

voted yes /nod

[Ripqozko]

Pass, don't need the influx of legacy items on our blue, stay on ya green.

[Duik]

Umm lawyersareattackinganemuserversoitsunlikelyanyemus erverswillmakeamoveanytimesoon.

[kjs86z2]

as long as we can get nexii's erotic adventures back

[Swish]

That's a hard no from the 10-15 traders in the blue tunnel btw

[wuanahto]

i voted yes but in a few weeks im not ganna care and get burnt out on eq and go back to city of heroes or daoc or something for another 3 or 4 years

[cd288]

A merge is drastically needed

[Videri]

I still like the developers' original plan of letting a server progress through the timeline, merging it into the original server, and starting a fresh one. Seems ideal. People who feel attached to their characters can still play them (plus some new friends); people who want to start fresh can do so; server count remains the same.

[Viscere]

A merge is drastically needed

Pras

[Solist]

Merge isn't needed.

Fixing the abysmal ruleset enforced by CSR who don't even play anymore, let alone partake as CSR needs fixing first.

Merging now would decimate the population.

[Bardp1999]

Green server is Castle killing every raid mob as they spawn and uncontested 50% of the time and losing to Kingdom/GG the other 50% of the time.

Unplug the servers or merge them, the current situation is sad for everyone involved

[azxten]

Hear me out...

Delete blue and green. Make teams PvP server with coin loot and no cross team buffs or guilds.

[Solist]

Green server is Castle killing every raid mob as they spawn and uncontested 50% of the time and losing to Kingdom/GG the other 50% of the time.

Unplug the servers or merge them, the current situation is sad for everyone involved

Why would halving the amount of mobs by merging them address this.

Only a moron would think anything would happen except a castle/fuse merger.

That’s the way the rules are currently. That’s the mechanics of the current meta. It’s no accident both servers ended up here.

[Viscere]

Merging would create a super alive server with 1k peak time CCU again, would be awesome

Blue is a ghost town atm

Do It Seannnnnnnnn

[Jimjam]

Once a server has defeated the wardens event it should just get dumped into p99 Woke server and a new server should be available imminently.

[magnetaress]

Voted yes and launch red 2.0

Also jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams.

[Tann]

in order to get the cheddar for new hardware for a server merge, the dev's should consider an in game currency used to purchase exclusive items like illusion wands and 100% wr bags. Perhaps call it something like Edging On Mammaries???

They could offer them as a "reward" for server donations, definitely not RMT cause they'll also put them on mobs loot tables with a 0.00000001% of dropping. I'm sure Daybreak would be fine with it.

[Zuranthium]

Once a server has defeated the wardens event it should just get dumped into p99 Woke server and a new server should be available imminently.

I think a set schedule of 1 year pre-Kunark, 1 year Kunark, 9 months Velious and then merging into Blue would be ideal. That matches the duration of the classic EQ timeline while allowing the pre-Velious era to shine most. When you already have a server perma in Velious (Blue), that's the least desirable era of Green server. p99 thrived when it was in Kunark for 4.5 years (aside from the unfortunate AE farming, but that's fixed now).

Ofc, it's not actually worth playing on Green/Blue. Nice to have that museum around to have the classic game code in existence, but what's the point in replaying the same unbalanced and unfinished mechanics over and over. We need a classic-esque server that seeks to improve the game world by being the most sophisticated version possible of the original vision for the game. That should be Red server.

[loramin]

I think a set schedule of 1 year pre-Kunark, 1 year Kunark, 9 months Velious and then merging into Blue would be ideal. That matches the duration of the classic EQ timeline while allowing the pre-Velious era to shine most. When you already have a server perma in Velious (Blue), that's the least desirable era of Green server. p99 thrived when it was in Kunark for 4.5 years (aside from the unfortunate AE farming, but that's fixed now).

People on live were doing Velious content well into Luclin (and beyond). In fact, there were almost no kills of some of the top Velious raid mobs during Velious: on most servers guilds only ever managed to defeat them after Luclin came out.

Also, I'm sure rotating is a lot of work for the staff, so no need to do that work more frequently than is necessary. To address both issues, I think a fresh server should get at least year and nine months in Velious, and maybe even round that to two years for simplicity.

Ofc, it's not actually worth playing on Green/Blue. Nice to have that museum around to have the classic game code in existence, but what's the point in replaying the same unbalanced and unfinished mechanics over and over. We need a classic-esque server that seeks to improve the game world by being the most sophisticated version possible of the original vision for the game. That should be Red server.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/82/7c/8d/827c8d169518fb3497ceb56760fbb121.gif

[Zuranthium]

People on live were doing Velious content well into Luclin (and beyond). In fact, there were almost no kills of some of the top Velious raid mobs during Velious

I'm well aware, what is your point? That's not how the game ever plays these days. The info is all known now and people level faster and have better computers/internet. There isn't any challenge of needing to figure out zones/quests/mechanics, and there are far more high level alts to use.

There's no point in Green server being in Velious era for long, it's just Blue server at that point. Green server should be primarily about the pre-Velious era of the game. Anyone can play on Blue if they want late Velious era.

And to get actual Everquest, the game mechanics themselves need to be changed. Seeing as that's not possible for Green/Blue, since those servers are there to mirror the exact classic coding for museum purposes, it needs to be Red server that is used as the custom content server. That's where people would be able to play the game as it was intended to be played, and as it would have been developed had the designers continued to work on it, instead of just focusing on pushing out expansion content (or moving on to other games).

[cd288]

Why would halving the amount of mobs by merging them address this.

Only a moron would think anything would happen except a castle/fuse merger.

That’s the way the rules are currently. That’s the mechanics of the current meta. It’s no accident both servers ended up here.

This dude is so completely obsessed with raiding that he panics over the idea of two servers with a few hundred people each being combined in case it reduces his chances of pixels.

You need to take a break from P99 man.

[Zuranthium]

TBH, raid mobs dropped more items during actual classic, and it was often only 1 guild per server (containing about 40-50 people) getting those items. So in that regard, 200 raiders being present on p99 actually equates to 1/8 as much chance of getting an item now (4x as many raiders, 1/2 as much loot) as compared to being in the top guild during the classic timeline.

Of course, Blue server has an infinite timeline to raid on. The classic drop rates should still be restored though.

[tunne]

A merge is drastically needed

there is only one thing that can save the server(s) from a slow death

[Prismaticshop]

This dude is so completely obsessed with raiding that he panics over the idea of two servers with a few hundred people each being combined in case it reduces his chances of pixels.

You need to take a break from P99 man.

He's always angry

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Umm lawyersareattackinganemuserversoitsunlikelyanyemus erverswillmakeamoveanytimesoon.

The fact you have played Project 1999 gives DPG all they need to know.

Project 1999 collects an incredible amount of data on people who play this emulator and up till now, giving DPG that data has been enough compensation for DPG.

It's clear things are changing. And, Project 1999 scrapes a fuckton of data off your computer.

[Ekco]

Project 1999 scrapes a fuckton of data off your computer.

https://i.imgur.com/y2YYGMw.png

[Ekco]

yeah, this shit looks too complicated.
https://c.tenor.com/zlHHCXJvPs0AAAAd/tenor.gif
sadly there isn't a comment like ##here's where we put the dodgy shit##

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/PGyAHjA.png

this block flow graph is fun though

https://i.imgur.com/R7RcuVR.png

ive concluded the people working on p99 are Wizards and/or Aliens and whatever the dll is doing is probably, fine.

[F0rmsh1fter]

it needs to be Red server that is used as the custom content server. That's where people would be able to play the game as it was intended to be played


I don’t think it was intended for 12 people to run around with AoN logging out the second they see another player

[Zuranthium]

I don’t think it was intended for people to run around with AoN logging out the second they see another player

Where did I ever say that would be the intent of a redesign to the Red server?

[tunne]

servers will never merge grow up

[Wakanda]

I don't think it's just the merge that people want. A new P99 server in general would bring a lot of people back to EQ the same way the PQ launch brought a lot of people back to EQ.

Even though I don't think a merge would be terrible for the game, I don't think any of my friends who quit playing P99 years ago would come back just because of a merge. Like look at the populations of both servers ATM. Even if you combined them the total player-base would be less than Green at it's peak (I didn't know of Blue in it's prime, so IDK what the population was like).

New server would likely have the most impact.

[tunne]

do you have money to pay for it

[Agrimir]

I don't think it's just the merge that people want. A new P99 server in general would bring a lot of people back to EQ the same way the PQ launch brought a lot of people back to EQ.

Even though I don't think a merge would be terrible for the game, I don't think any of my friends who quit playing P99 years ago would come back just because of a merge. Like look at the populations of both servers ATM. Even if you combined them the total player-base would be less than Green at it's peak (I didn't know of Blue in it's prime, so IDK what the population was like).

New server would likely have the most impact.

People would come back for a new server, yes. But a merger would be a big help to the people already playing.

[Agrimir]

do you have money to pay for it

Why do people post shit like this? As if the necessary funds wouldn't be met within half an hour if that's all that was standing in the way of merger/new server.

[F0rmsh1fter]

I don't think it's just the merge that people want. A new P99 server in general would bring a lot of people back to EQ the same way the PQ launch brought a lot of people back to EQ.

Even though I don't think a merge would be terrible for the game, I don't think any of my friends who quit playing P99 years ago would come back just because of a merge. Like look at the populations of both servers ATM. Even if you combined them the total player-base would be less than Green at it's peak (I didn't know of Blue in it's prime, so IDK what the population was like).

New server would likely have the most impact.

A merge would be about half the pop of blue during its prime

[Viscere]

A good reason to merge asap then

[Swish]

If they merge the servers people will have to find something new to complain about, ever thought of that? You have no idea of the consequences.

[Tann]

If they merge the servers people will have to find something new to complain about, ever thought of that? You have no idea of the consequences.

Petitionquest2025: camp disputes, raid disputes w/fraps evidence, and PNP enforcement, oh my!

[Jimjam]

If they merge the servers people will have to find something new to complain about, ever thought of that? You have no idea of the consequences.

That could have a profound impact on the forum meta.

[zelld52]

I suppose nobody realizes how involved a merge process would be.

Some simple problems off the top of my head:
- How do you reconcile accounts that have more than 10 characters across both servers?
- How do you reconcile names that are the same on both servers?

Let alone, all of the other database merge issues that a 100% volunteer staff would have to deal with.

[Agrimir]

I suppose nobody realizes how involved a merge process would be.

Some simple problems off the top of my head:
- How do you reconcile accounts that have more than 10 characters across both servers?
- How do you reconcile names that are the same on both servers?

Let alone, all of the other database merge issues that a 100% volunteer staff would have to deal with.

This is literally the first time anyone has brought this up. Thank you!

[cd288]

It's not the first time anyone has brought it up because the staff literally addressed both of those things.

1. First, you can't duplicate a name on Green unless you create that character on the SAME account that has that character on Blue. To the extent you did duplicate your Blue char's name on Green, the staff already said an X would be added to the end of the Green char's name. This is exactly how they did it on live and is extremely simple and easy to do.

2. The staff already issued a warning at the beginning of Green that the Titanium client UI has limitations where it can only show 8 chars at character select. If you merged and your account has more than 8 chars, the ones lower down alphabetically still exist, but you just cant see them on the char select screen. So you'd have to delete some higher up the list to get those to show up. The staff were VERY clear that this was completely at your own risk...i.e., accounts are free so if you are going to be creating more than 8 characters across Blue and Green you should make sure that no account has more than 8 characters on it in the aggregate. They were very clear that there's nothing they are aware of that they can do about this issue and if you ignored the warning then that was your problem when the servers merge.

All of this has been addressed. A merge process isn't crazily involved (look at how quick any easy the Green/Teal split and then merge was). That's not what's making them not make a new server right now.

[zelld52]

All of this has been addressed. A merge process isn't crazily involved (look at how quick any easy the Green/Teal split and then merge was). That's not what's making them not make a new server right now.

Pretty sure P99 had more volunteer staff back then, to handle a merge that had 3 months worth of players in it. But Green's been around almost 6 years now, and the staff has dwindled. Can you imagine how many name change petitions the 100% volunteer staff would have to go through?

[Findlyn]

Pretty sure P99 had more volunteer staff back then, to handle a merge that had 3 months worth of players in it. But Green's been around almost 6 years now, and the staff has dwindled. Can you imagine how many name change petitions the 100% volunteer staff would have to go through?

Sounds like a lot of issues on the server, like this, comes down to that it sounds like they need to bring on more CSR's. If they plan to keep this perpetually running, then they should also be recruiting/training new csr's every so often. CSR's will eventually quit p99 altogether, or at least their roles as csr. I hope this has been brought up before, but seems like poor planning for long term not trying to keep a healthy staff of volunteer CSRs

[cd288]

Pretty sure P99 had more volunteer staff back then, to handle a merge that had 3 months worth of players in it. But Green's been around almost 6 years now, and the staff has dwindled. Can you imagine how many name change petitions the 100% volunteer staff would have to go through?

Huh? There won't be petitions. They'll literally just add an X to the name for you.

A server merge is extremely simple and not highly technical at all. Literally one person could do it.

[cd288]

Sounds like a lot of issues on the server, like this, comes down to that it sounds like they need to bring on more CSR's. If they plan to keep this perpetually running, then they should also be recruiting/training new csr's every so often. CSR's will eventually quit p99 altogether, or at least their roles as csr. I hope this has been brought up before, but seems like poor planning for long term not trying to keep a healthy staff of volunteer CSRs

They do this. I don't think any of us here are tracking the number now vs back then.

[zelld52]

Huh? There won't be petitions. They'll literally just add an X to the name for you.

A server merge is extremely simple and not highly technical at all. Literally one person could do it.

Yeah, youre right allseeing soothsayer. Nobody playing is going to submit a forum petition because they don't want the X at the end of their name

"I don't want the name Cd288sucksX i want it to be Cd288blows"

[cd288]

Yeah, youre right allseeing soothsayer. Nobody playing is going to submit a forum petition because they don't want the X at the end of their name

"I don't want the name Cd288sucksX i want it to be Cd288blows"

You can't change your name on P99 unless the staff requires you to due to a violation of the naming policy. So your point is moot.

And again, this is how duplicative names were handled on live. It's classic.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

This is literally the first time anyone has brought this up. Thank you!

Not the first, sadly. That is maya, illusion.
https://i.imgur.com/ghL0EUb.jpg

The same goal is accomplished with far less work if you enable servers xfers. How is this morally wrong, such a modest request, that perhaps one char or two, could simply be moved?

I ask of you, if such characters even vowed to surrender their own shields, would this not be to the emperor's amusement, at least sires?

[cd288]

Not the first, sadly. That is maya, illusion.
https://i.imgur.com/ghL0EUb.jpg

The same goal is accomplished with far less work if you enable servers xfers. How is this morally wrong, such a modest request, that perhaps one char or two, could simply be moved?

I ask of you, if such characters even vowed to surrender their own shields, would this not be to the emperor's amusement, at least sires?

Maybe makes RMT easier?

[Jimjam]

They already had a practice merge with teal/green

[Viscere]

Not the first, sadly. That is maya, illusion.
https://i.imgur.com/ghL0EUb.jpg

The same goal is accomplished with far less work if you enable servers xfers. How is this morally wrong, such a modest request, that perhaps one char or two, could simply be moved?

I ask of you, if such characters even vowed to surrender their own shields, would this not be to the emperor's amusement, at least sires?

With transfers blue would drop even more in population

Just merge it imo