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wuanahto
06-23-2025, 07:42 PM
bring shit to sell. blue needs items badly, green needs items moderately
currently 2+ week wait time for mediocre shit
we do not need items that you can solo like SCHW or spiked seahorse belt

we need crafted armor, wus armor, netted kelp, crusty armor, etc. lambent armor.

dont come back just to jack off in your favorite zone, contribute

Wrot
06-23-2025, 09:18 PM
We still aren't coming back, sorry. Take care.

Solist
06-23-2025, 09:50 PM
bring shit to sell. blue needs items badly, green needs items moderately
currently 2+ week wait time for mediocre shit
we do not need items that you can solo like SCHW or spiked seahorse belt

we need crafted armor, wus armor, netted kelp, crusty armor, etc. lambent armor.

dont come back just to jack off in your favorite zone, contribute

Noone is coming 'back' to broken CSR lead dystopian hole. Sorry.

shovelquest
06-23-2025, 10:06 PM
New server when? (JK now we know: NEVER)

Vormotus
06-23-2025, 10:59 PM
Noone is coming 'back' to broken CSR lead dystopian hole. Sorry.

This, I mean P99 is ok, but unless a new p99 server opens up, its the same cesspool it has been with the same toxic mentality , coming back here would be like an immigrant saying hi to an ICE squad and asking to be deported for the "fun" of it, while the ICE goons wearing Tolans knock you out with their epics and laugh at you while putting you in a flight back to Oggok.

Sunk Cost Phallacy papi, be free of it

Ekco
06-23-2025, 11:06 PM
Sunk Cost Phallacy papi, be free of it

things like your avatar image make the transition easier also.

characters are suppose to be temporary and exist at the whims of a dice roll.

Wakanda
06-23-2025, 11:06 PM
This, I mean P99 is ok, but unless a new p99 server opens up, its the same cesspool it has been with the same toxic mentality , coming back here would be like an immigrant saying hi to an ICE squad and asking to be deported for the "fun" of it, while the ICE goons wearing Tolans knock you out with their epics and laugh at you while putting you in a flight back to Oggok.

Sunk Cost Phallacy papi, be free of it

I'd love a new server as well, but IDK if a new server would change the culture of P99 honestly. I remember the early days on Green being over-the-top with cheating and crap. I wish I had thought to stream back then just so I had a VOD because I saw so many people boxing but had no proof of it other than "trust me bro."

Castle2.0
06-23-2025, 11:07 PM
This, I mean P99 is ok, but unless a new p99 server opens up, its the same cesspool it has been with the same toxic mentality , coming back here would be like an immigrant saying hi to an ICE squad and asking to be deported for the "fun" of it, while the ICE goons wearing Tolans knock you out with their epics and laugh at you while putting you in a flight back to Oggok.

Sunk Cost Phallacy papi, be free of it

The Oggok Wormhole was the best thing to happen on P99, ever.

magnetaress
06-23-2025, 11:28 PM
New r3d 2.0 wh3n?

zelld52
06-24-2025, 09:18 AM
this whole THJ scandal proves that new server = never.

Daybreak will not allow a new p99 because it takes away from their TLP subs. hope this helps

Ciderpress
06-24-2025, 10:05 AM
Yeah, nobody is coming back! Except the people who do!

Ciderpress
06-24-2025, 10:09 AM
Bah I should have said "Except the people who are."

I wish you could edit in here, I messed up my rant \ flame :(

Ciderpress
06-24-2025, 10:17 AM
This, I mean P99 is ok, but unless a new p99 server opens up, its the same cesspool it has been with the same toxic mentality , coming back here would be like an immigrant saying hi to an ICE squad and asking to be deported for the "fun" of it, while the ICE goons wearing Tolans knock you out with their epics and laugh at you while putting you in a flight back to Oggok.

Sunk Cost Phallacy papi, be free of it

Immigrants don't get deported, illegal immigrants do. And most people support it, not least of all the legal immigrants.

Sorry, politics, I'll shut up (but he started it).

Also p99 isn't "toxic" at all. What does that term even mean? "Doesn't have instancing"? There are numerous quakes not to mention the draft, so there are still welfare pixels you just might have to work a little harder for them. I've never understood this term. Is it toxic when you lose and non-toxic when you win?

cd288
06-24-2025, 10:30 AM
he made a joke analogy. He wasn't bringing up politics. Relax

Reiwa
06-24-2025, 10:43 AM
And most people support it

Give us Barabbas.

Ciderpress
06-24-2025, 07:44 PM
he made a joke analogy. He wasn't bringing up politics. Relax

Ok well don't invite me to talk about politics entirely in joke analogies cause I will!

Ekco
06-24-2025, 07:58 PM
>Also p99 isn't "toxic" at all.
https://i.imgur.com/CjpNbRg.png

Findlyn
06-24-2025, 08:49 PM
Also p99 isn't "toxic" at all. What does that term even mean? "Doesn't have instancing"? There are numerous quakes not to mention the draft, so there are still welfare pixels you just might have to work a little harder for them. I've never understood this term. Is it toxic when you lose and non-toxic when you win?

If you think bat phoning is anyway acceptable for most people in modern day...I don't know what to tell you. Most of us have actually grown up, and realize that spending 26 hours for a raster camp is not healthy gaming. Getting items because you were able to do the content, and not locked behind an arbitrary time gate. It doesn't make it welfare. It just means its accessible. If you think things being accessible is a problem, you dont get why people like PQ and most of the people who were on PQ will never come back here.

Reiwa
06-24-2025, 09:12 PM
If you think bat phoning is anyway acceptable for most people in modern day...I don't know what to tell you. Most of us have actually grown up, and realize that spending 26 hours for a raster camp is not healthy gaming. Getting items because you were able to do the content, and not locked behind an arbitrary time gate. It doesn't make it welfare. It just means its accessible. If you think things being accessible is a problem, you dont get why people like PQ and most of the people who were on PQ will never come back here.

What is accessible healthcare?

Ekco
06-24-2025, 09:13 PM
>If you think bat phoning is anyway acceptable for most people in modern day.

we did the same in eve online, another unhealthy game but the work was spread out between 10,000 people across every timezone on the planet.

poopsockers here and actually more hardcore than hardcore eve players.

Ciderpress
06-25-2025, 12:46 AM
If you think bat phoning is anyway acceptable for most people in modern day...I don't know what to tell you. Most of us have actually grown up, and realize that spending 26 hours for a raster camp is not healthy gaming. Getting items because you were able to do the content, and not locked behind an arbitrary time gate. It doesn't make it welfare. It just means its accessible. If you think things being accessible is a problem, you dont get why people like PQ and most of the people who were on PQ will never come back here.

I wonder if anyone age 30+ played the original game in 1999 or if it was only other 14 year olds? Hmmm..

Again, the draft specifically addresses the accessibility issue, you have a week to schedule your targets. It's quite a good balance. You just sound like you're pissed you don't got.

Ekco
06-25-2025, 01:03 AM
I wonder if anyone age 30+ played the original game in 1999 or if it was only other 14 year olds? Hmmm..

lol, i was 13 and my entire DnD group at the magic shop played basically and they were all in their late 30s and 40s iirc

and i remember being blacklisted on fennin due to my age so it was mostly adults

Wakanda
06-25-2025, 01:50 AM
I wonder if anyone age 30+ played the original game in 1999 or if it was only other 14 year olds? Hmmm..

Again, the draft specifically addresses the accessibility issue, you have a week to schedule your targets. It's quite a good balance. You just sound like you're pissed you don't got.

A lot of older folks played on my server. See them passing away fairly frequently on the facebook group :(

wuanahto
06-25-2025, 11:07 AM
If you think bat phoning is anyway acceptable for most people in modern day...I don't know what to tell you. Most of us have actually grown up, and realize that spending 26 hours for a raster camp is not healthy gaming. Getting items because you were able to do the content, and not locked behind an arbitrary time gate. It doesn't make it welfare. It just means its accessible. If you think things being accessible is a problem, you dont get why people like PQ and most of the people who were on PQ will never come back here.

so you lost the willpower to actually game and you need something guaranteed with little, if any investment?

bro, warcraft. in like a month from now another classic+ server is opening up called Epoch

zelld52
06-25-2025, 11:13 AM
so you lost the willpower to actually game and you need something guaranteed with little, if any investment?

bro, warcraft. in like a month from now another classic+ server is opening up called Epoch

Im in the same boat as the other guy, i have limited play time - and dont have the ability to get up at 1am / 6am -or leave work at 2pm for batphones. but id still rather spend that limited play time on P99 EQ than any other garbage EZ-Mode MMO.

kjs86z2
06-25-2025, 12:06 PM
Im in the same boat as the other guy, i have limited play time - and dont have the ability to get up at 1am / 6am -or leave work at 2pm for batphones. but id still rather spend that limited play time on P99 EQ than any other garbage EZ-Mode MMO.

hate to break it to ya bub, but p99 is about as easy as it gets

Sadre Spinegnawer
06-25-2025, 01:46 PM
I wonder if anyone age 30+ played the original game in 1999 or if it was only other 14 year olds? Hmmm..

Again, the draft specifically addresses the accessibility issue, you have a week to schedule your targets. It's quite a good balance. You just sound like you're pissed you don't got.

I was finishing my doctorate when eq came out. I'm an insomniac (note: was. SOLVED.). I like to do two things at once in order to concentrate. I used to work on one computer, play eq on another, and then run MOO2 on an old Zenith laptop.

During Kunark era my exp grp usually included this cleric named Goza Gix. He was like 60.

cd288
06-25-2025, 02:02 PM
If you think bat phoning is anyway acceptable for most people in modern day...I don't know what to tell you. Most of us have actually grown up, and realize that spending 26 hours for a raster camp is not healthy gaming. Getting items because you were able to do the content, and not locked behind an arbitrary time gate. It doesn't make it welfare. It just means its accessible. If you think things being accessible is a problem, you dont get why people like PQ and most of the people who were on PQ will never come back here.

Posts like these always confuse me. Like, you're on the P99 forum talking about how classic EQ is bad and the other servers are better for various reasons. Okay...so why are you here on these forums then? Go over there.

In any case, "will never come back here"...this seems like a quote that's going to age like milk if either of 1. A new P99 server is launched sometime in the future or 2. PQ gets shut down by Daybreak.

torriadore
06-25-2025, 02:13 PM
A lot of older folks played on my server. See them passing away fairly frequently on the facebook group :(
It is sad, but an immobile hobby + the massive time committment + 25 years passage of time is a hell of a combo.
If any of you were active on forums in the first few years of the game, there's a good chance a lot of those people are gone now or in terrible health. Take care of yourselves.

Danth
06-25-2025, 02:28 PM
If any of you were active on forums in the first few years of the game, there's a good chance a lot of those people are gone now or in terrible health. Take care of yourselves.

I started online gaming during the mid 90's in MMO-flightsims. The average age of players--then--was in their 40's and 50's because paying by the hour on top of long distance telephone fees was beyond the means of most teenagers for obvious reasons. I still hang around that community to some degree. Over the past thirty years, but especially over the past decade, we've said good-bye to a LOT of well-known players as age takes its inevitable toll. The MMO-RPG community veers younger than the flightsim community did on average, but it'll get there too, soon enough. I knew one older couple on P99, they were round 70, which eventually was reduced to just one of them ever logging on at a given time. Turned out the wife had passed away.

Reiwa
06-25-2025, 02:40 PM
Posts like these always confuse me. Like, you're on the P99 forum talking about how classic EQ is bad and the other servers are better for various reasons. Okay...so why are you here on these forums then? Go over there.

In any case, "will never come back here"...this seems like a quote that's going to age like milk if either of 1. A new P99 server is launched sometime in the future or 2. PQ gets shut down by Daybreak.

Sometimes people form social relationships from shared experiences.

shovelquest
06-25-2025, 02:43 PM
You don't share my exact same opinions about our shared interest? ILL KILL U!

wuanahto
06-25-2025, 02:57 PM
Sometimes people form social relationships from shared experiences.

if you did it once you can do it again
just somewhere else

shovelquest
06-25-2025, 03:04 PM
If you think bat phoning is anyway acceptable for most people in modern day...I don't know what to tell you. Most of us have actually grown up

Yeah, and like 10 years ago, now the core player base has grown old and have all the time in the world.

Plz bat phone me, ill be there anytime of the day.

I get up at night 90 times to take a piss.

Reiwa
06-25-2025, 03:26 PM
You don't share my exact same opinions about our shared interest? ILL KILL U!

Anyway do we really want to put 20-ish American citizens into prison over the internet complaints of a foreign investment firm?

cd288
06-25-2025, 03:53 PM
You don't share my exact same opinions about our shared interest? ILL KILL U!

Not what I was saying at all. Just seems weird to spend time posting on a forum about how bad the server is versus another server, when you could just be on that server's forums instead.

Allishia
06-25-2025, 03:58 PM
Blue server is awesome, come join Gravity and lets have fun and win eq! =P

Reiwa
06-25-2025, 04:27 PM
Not what I was saying at all. Just seems weird to spend time posting on a forum about how bad the server is versus another server, when you could just be on that server's forums instead.

What is url of Quarm forum?

shovelquest
06-25-2025, 04:45 PM
What is url of Quarm forum?

www.quarm.forums.rants&flames.edu (https://www.project1999.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=30)

cd288
06-25-2025, 05:03 PM
What is url of Quarm forum?

They have a subreddit and discord I believe

Solist
06-25-2025, 05:44 PM
Posts like these always confuse me. Like, you're on the P99 forum talking about how classic EQ is bad and the other servers are better for various reasons. Okay...so why are you here on these forums then? Go over there.

In any case, "will never come back here"...this seems like a quote that's going to age like milk if either of 1. A new P99 server is launched sometime in the future or 2. PQ gets shut down by Daybreak.

Bro, folks are allowed to have lots of interests.

And you're allowed to want P99 to be fixed and attractive, while also in the meantime go kill frogloks elsewhere until such a time.

Question whether it's effective to even post here though; almost all CSR from p99 PLAY ON QUARM....lol dude, literally these guys don't even log in to p99 anymore; ever. They just play quarm and THJ.

Reiwa
06-25-2025, 06:23 PM
They have a subreddit and discord I believe

What if I don't like updoots or spyware?

Ciderpress
06-25-2025, 06:54 PM
Bro, folks are allowed to have lots of interests.

And you're allowed to want P99 to be fixed and attractive, while also in the meantime go kill frogloks elsewhere until such a time.

Question whether it's effective to even post here though; almost all CSR from p99 PLAY ON QUARM....lol dude, literally these guys don't even log in to p99 anymore; ever. They just play quarm and THJ.

Lol "fixed and attractive".

Do elaborate!

Goregasmic
06-25-2025, 07:10 PM
EQ always has been time consuming, everything about this game is a grind. I was ~15 when I started and quit around POP. Had a ton of time to play during summer breaks and grind and raid and just shoot the shit with people. Came back at 40 and I'm having a blast but I can't raid meaningfully, won't batphone, probably will never get my epic and much less do the unemployed shit like angry goblin but that's cool, I've accepted it and you can get strong enough with MQs and EC mart stuff given enough time.

There's just no point in wishing the game will become something it never was... especially on a classic server.

Ekco
06-25-2025, 07:11 PM
>Posts like these always confuse me. Like, you're on the P99 forum talking about how classic EQ is bad and the other servers are better for various reasons. Okay...so why are you here on these forums then?

people complain loudly about things they care about, esp when said thing is no longer growing and losing customers, you're in actual trouble when people don't even care enough to complain about you fucking up anymore

imagine having to have basic Psych 101 explained to you, jesus fuck dude.

Ciderpress
06-25-2025, 08:58 PM
I find this whole argument mysterious. I play p99 almost every day. Sometimes I raid, sometimes I solo, sometimes I group, sometimes I level an alt, sometimes I tradeskill. It's fun. It's a game I loved as a kid, and it's unique. What exactly is the problem?

Ciderpress
06-25-2025, 09:04 PM
Consider this: The original live servers, I think sometime around luclin, began merging due to declining individual server pops. I specifically remember when Povar merged into Ayonae Ro. Did that happen because the original game, that we are talking about, during the era we are talking about, became "toxic"? None of this makes any sense. Server pops naturally fluctuate, it doesn't signal some kind of grand catastrophe.

Danth
06-25-2025, 09:09 PM
Always amazes me that EQ made such an impression on so many of you who were children or teenagers when the game launched. EQ's slow paced and rather 'boring' to the attention spans typical of that age bracket, then or now. I had Atari as a child and those types of games are much more typical of what I think of as "kid's games." They're short, no depth, quick to get into and out of, and no great appeal to adults.

Ciderpress
06-25-2025, 09:23 PM
Always amazes me that EQ made such an impression on so many of you who were children or teenagers when the game launched. EQ's slow paced and rather 'boring' to the attention spans typical of that age bracket, then or now. I had Atari as a child and those types of games are much more typical of what I think of as "kid's games." They're short, no depth, quick to get into and out of, and no great appeal to adults.

For me it was a combination of being infatuated with 3d games generally, cause I made tons of quake and doom levels and shit before EQ, plus the novelty of an MMO cause I played ultima online at launch before EQ came out, and it was still the wild west where the genre hadn't been optimized into generic hell yet. There was UO, EQ and I think Asheron's call which I never played. Now there's like 1500 free to play mmos where you can pay to start with a level 60 who cares whatever horse thing. Same reason I hated diablo 4 really.

Zuranthium
06-25-2025, 09:33 PM
Always amazes me that EQ made such an impression on so many of you who were children or teenagers when the game launched. EQ's slow paced and rather 'boring' to the attention spans typical of that age bracket, then or now.

The game was a completely unique, enthralling experience and also doubled as a chatroom. Wasn't that slow in a good group either, and in general there was frequently the risk of a wandering monster, so downtime still had tension.

Ofc, even in 1999 people would have preferred faster HP/MP regen rates and MOB spawn rates.

Goregasmic
06-26-2025, 12:10 PM
Always amazes me that EQ made such an impression on so many of you who were children or teenagers when the game launched. EQ's slow paced and rather 'boring' to the attention spans typical of that age bracket, then or now. I had Atari as a child and those types of games are much more typical of what I think of as "kid's games." They're short, no depth, quick to get into and out of, and no great appeal to adults.

I like progression and it was nearly endless. It is slow paced but can be very intense at times. The social aspect was great too. Huge world to explore, lots of challenges.

TL;DR same as today but it was new back then.

Goregasmic
06-26-2025, 12:14 PM
Oh and I don't know why you're saying this, N64 released in 96 and even as a kid/teen I sank hundreds of hours in many games, not sure why you're making kids/teens unable to play anything but braindead shit.

zelld52
06-26-2025, 01:16 PM
Super Smash Bros by Day
EverQuest by night
Best years of my life

Kutark Validus
06-26-2025, 01:31 PM
I'd love a new server as well, but IDK if a new server would change the culture of P99 honestly. I remember the early days on Green being over-the-top with cheating and crap. I wish I had thought to stream back then just so I had a VOD because I saw so many people boxing but had no proof of it other than "trust me bro."

Unfortunately the only way for this to stop is that the devs/admins need to go literal draconian scorched earth on anyone who even looks like they might maybe be cheating, scripting, botting, or boxing.

But they won't.

cd288
06-26-2025, 03:30 PM
Bro, folks are allowed to have lots of interests.

And you're allowed to want P99 to be fixed and attractive, while also in the meantime go kill frogloks elsewhere until such a time.

Question whether it's effective to even post here though; almost all CSR from p99 PLAY ON QUARM....lol dude, literally these guys don't even log in to p99 anymore; ever. They just play quarm and THJ.

Of course they are. Again, not criticizing anyone's interest in Quarm at all. If you like playing that, that's awesome and I'm happy for you. Again, just saying it seems weird to come to the forums of another server that the commenter apparently doesn't like at all and just bash that server.

PQ isn't my cup of tea, but I can't imagine spending time going on their communication channels just to bash the server lol. Waste of time.

Solist
06-26-2025, 06:14 PM
Of course they are. Again, not criticizing anyone's interest in Quarm at all. If you like playing that, that's awesome and I'm happy for you. Again, just saying it seems weird to come to the forums of another server that the commenter apparently doesn't like at all and just bash that server.

PQ isn't my cup of tea, but I can't imagine spending time going on their communication channels just to bash the server lol. Waste of time.

You know people can play both at once right?

And it's fair and reasonable to be critical of a server I've played on since pretty much launch. P99 now is the worst it has ever been, and that's saying something considering some of the past events here.

Ciderpress
06-26-2025, 06:25 PM
P99 was at it's worst when it launched and some retard kept ddosing it. So no, it's not "the worst it has ever been". What even is this dumb shit?

Sadre Spinegnawer
06-26-2025, 06:50 PM
Unwise to open a new server in combo with whatever legal kerfuffle is happening right now, but enabling server transfers would be a nice and welcoming move to old friends.

Remember Christmas and that time right around? It wouldn't be like that but it would allow people some goddam liberty.

cd288
06-27-2025, 10:41 AM
You know people can play both at once right?

And it's fair and reasonable to be critical of a server I've played on since pretty much launch. P99 now is the worst it has ever been, and that's saying something considering some of the past events here.

Well the good news for you is that if you like PQ it's still up and running so you can play there if you hate P99! :D

cd288
06-27-2025, 10:42 AM
P99 was at it's worst when it launched and some retard kept ddosing it. So no, it's not "the worst it has ever been". What even is this dumb shit?

This child is so upset about rooted dragons on a private emulated server of a 26 year old video game lol

Reiwa
06-27-2025, 02:46 PM
But was it appropriate to compare Secrets to Neville Chamberlain?

magnetaress
06-27-2025, 03:49 PM
But was it appropriate to compare Secrets to Neville Chamberlain?

Naw. Invalid comparison. Does not compute. Rollover error.

In C++, when an integer value exceeds the maximum limit of the standard int data type, it results in an overflow. To handle integers larger than what int can accommodate, several options are available:
Use Larger Built-in Integer Types:
long: This type generally provides the same range as int on most modern 64-bit systems, but on some older systems or specific architectures, it might offer a larger range (e.g., 32-bit int and 64-bit long).
long long: This is a standard C++ type guaranteed to be at least 64 bits wide, offering a significantly larger range than int or long. It can store values up to approximately 9 x 10^18.
unsigned versions: For positive-only integers, using unsigned int, unsigned long, or unsigned long long doubles the positive range compared to their signed counterparts.
Use Arbitrary-Precision Arithmetic Libraries (BigInt Libraries):
For integers exceeding the limits of even long long (e.g., numbers with hundreds or thousands of digits), custom implementations or external libraries are necessary. These libraries represent large numbers using data structures like arrays or strings to store individual digits, performing arithmetic operations digit by digit.
Examples of such libraries include ttmath or custom-implemented BigInt classes found on platforms like GitHub.
Consider Floating-Point Types for Large Magnitudes (with caution):
float, double, and long double can represent numbers with very large magnitudes due to their exponent component. However, they lack the precise integer representation of integer types, meaning they can introduce rounding errors when dealing with large integers, especially if the number of significant digits exceeds their precision limits. They are generally not suitable for exact integer arithmetic when precision is paramount.

Chamberlain is more like an int whereas Secrets is more like ttmath.

Drueric
06-29-2025, 03:19 PM
this whole THJ scandal proves that new server = never.

Daybreak will not allow a new p99 because it takes away from their TLP subs. hope this helps

Dont need another server, just wipe green.