You didnt hear this from me

[wuanahto]

Servers will merge, there will be 3 months of no new server.

However the 'new' server (teal) will shut down the moment the sleeper finishes its rampage across velious. no transferring alts to blue, no nothing, all gone. symbolizing that everquest died with velious and we are all in a post-death dream this entire time

And the server after that will have the sleeper toned down and "killable" as long as theres enough people, here you will have a chance to keep your characters. And once a month the sleeper will respawn, if the raid fails and he finishes its rampage, boom servers gone again. said sleeper will allow up to 255 debuffs, but dots still unstackable with other casters.

[Skyking]

sounds like a good idea, so i don't believe you.

[Lifebar]

However the 'new' server (teal) will shut down the moment the sleeper finishes its rampage across velious. no transferring alts to blue, no nothing, all gone.

I can hear the heavy breathing of those who enjoy blocking others out of content from here. And not the normal heavy breathing from their permanent disabilities.

[kjs86z2]

Always remember: its not about pixels, its about denying your opponents pixels.

[Grimmway]

I thought the 'new' server was (aubergine)? Or 'peach'/'flesh' like Crayolas? Maybe 'vermillion'?

Mark my words, I will get a manastone on the next new server. I have my neckbeard and toilet ready.

Anywho, time to get my power-levelling strats ready again.

Does this mean that Rubi-breastplates will drop below 7.5k?

[Lookingforrez]

Hopefully if they make a new server, MQs are disabled and account sharing is an instant ban.

[atomicpaul]

make a cruelty server

* the only weapons & armor in the game are the sort you make in tradeskills and they're no-drop.
* no spell vendors, all spells must be researched and the components are no-drop.
* it's always night time and all races have the vision of human/barb/erudite
* bankers don't exist, you carry everything that you own.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

We need something low stress. OP speaks wisdom with boldness in saying a server has to end for god's sake.

Ending, is good. Character death is a blessing. When will the lesson be learned, as Winston Churchill said about unending gameworlds.

But let the players decide, when their time has run out. Logan's Run server. Launch at Velious. When you hit 60, a timer appears in your UI counting down the game days you have left on that character before sandmen start spawning to try to kill you wherever you go.

You can outrun the sandmen.

But for how long?

[magnetaress]

Merge green now.

Red 2.0 teams pvp when?

[Ciderpress]

You kinda could stop account sharing if there were some system where you had like 3 ips that could be "registered" to an account, and if there's ever a 4th all of them are randomly shut out for a random amount of time, up to some limit. This would prevent the cheesefest cleric/coth bots but still protect people who legitimately share accounts for whatever reason.

[Reiwa]

You kinda could stop account sharing if there were some system where you had like 3 ips that could be "registered" to an account, and if there's ever a 4th all of them are randomly shut out for a random amount of time, up to some limit. This would prevent the cheesefest cleric/coth bots but still protect people who legitimately share accounts for whatever reason.

I don't see why zero account sharing shouldn't be on the table.

[Skyking]

zero account sharing and only two character slots would be ideal but by the time people are making rogue and wizard alts to park places peak fun raiding and server health is already over and you need a new box

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

zero account sharing and only two character slots would be ideal but by the time people are making rogue and wizard alts to park places peak fun raiding and server health is already over and you need a new box

You would think a free-to-play emulator project would entertain the notion where servers and/or characters end, but apparently, that just really breaks the brain for too many people.

What is it that is feared? And what is it that is lost?

Alas, do any of us know?

Could we?

Would we?

[Ciderpress]

I don't see why zero account sharing shouldn't be on the table.

Well two reasons: 1) account sharing was never against the rules on live, and 2) it's nearly impossible to actually enforce without tons of headaches for both players and staff.

[kjs86z2]

need more loststalkers to train tov with

[Skyking]

There’s literally zero resemblance to live raiding here, due to the headaches it’s caused for years for players and staff, so we’ve already crossed that Rubicon. Fix account sharing and suddenly your raid drama workload is magnitudes lighter.

[Skyking]

need more loststalkers to train tov with

it was a hard time of the year, someone having a fucking melty in rl is more important than ruining 100 other people logged in and playing.

[kjs86z2]

it was a hard time of the year, someone having a fucking melty in rl is more important than ruining 100 other people logged in and playing.

https://i.imgflip.com/9uikoz.jpg

[cd288]

There’s literally zero resemblance to live raiding here, due to the headaches it’s caused for years for players and staff, so we’ve already crossed that Rubicon. Fix account sharing and suddenly your raid drama workload is magnitudes lighter.

I don't see how you would prove account sharing though. I don't like it either, but seems like the only way to prevent it is to say you have to log in from the same IP every single time. Which either means people can't play P99 unless they're on the first IP that ever logged into the account, or they just get a VPN that provides a static IP and give it out to everyone.

[Skyking]

I don't see how you would prove account sharing though.

the dll file you download can i'm pretty sure

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

The dll knows what you did last summer.

[cd288]

the dll file you download can i'm pretty sure

How? Because of machine ID? You can spoof machine ID too, just like you can change your IP with a VPN

[Skyking]

How? Because of machine ID? You can spoof machine ID too, just like you can change your IP with a VPN

psychology, how are you going to convince warm bodies to use VPNs and break the server rules

people already don't wanna do that shit but have to because it's the culture, so having cover is all they need for the problem to be sorted, and you get the bonus of not being caught up in a ban dragnet everytime they bother to fight RMT and you logged into the same mule,tracker,rogue as the dude rmting

[Swish]

I don't see how you would prove account sharing though.

If someone on the other side of the country or internationally logs your account in before you could reasonably travel there I'd assume that's evidence enough.

"oh but my brother..." sure sure

[cd288]

psychology, how are you going to convince warm bodies to use VPNs and break the server rules

people already don't wanna do that shit but have to because it's the culture, so having cover is all they need for the problem to be sorted, and you get the bonus of not being caught up in a ban dragnet everytime they bother to fight RMT and you logged into the same mule,tracker,rogue as the dude rmting

I think you my be a little new here (I don't say that disparagingly, welcome!)...the people who raid for pixels nonstop for years in the top raid guild would absolutely use VPNs and other methods and break server rules. They would have zero issue doing this if it meant they could utilize bots and get the vast majority of the targets/drops.

[Skyking]

I think you my be a little new here (I don't say that disparagingly, welcome!)...the people who raid for pixels nonstop for years in the top raid guild would absolutely use VPNs and other methods and break server rules. They would have zero issue doing this if it meant they could utilize bots and get the vast majority of the targets/drops.

apparently you're new, i was in TMO and Forsaken and Aftermath and raided on blue for like 15 years, 10 people do 90% of the work in a raid, making VPNs ban-able means the people that login and afk at Seb when trak spawns because if they don't they fell behind the dkp pyramid scheme wouldn't roll out of bed at the batphone because their actual competition the 90% of warm bodies won't either.

the term warm body exists for a reason

if you have any other questions about p99 and how it works lemme know

[kjs86z2]

apparently you're new, i was in TMO and Forsaken and Aftermath and raided on blue for like 15 years, 10 people do 90% of the work in a raid, making VPNs ban-able means the people that login and afk at Seb when trak spawns because if they don't they fell behind the dkp pyramid scheme wouldn't roll out of bed at the batphone because their actual competition the 90% of warm bodies won't either.

the term warm body exists for a reason

if you have any other questions about p99 and how it works lemme know

i was always a fan of wall-licker

but warmbody works too

[Skyking]

what will happen in practice is instead of two big boy guilds ruining everything for everyone, the play makers of both will be a singular guild for about a month before they're at each others throats do to the personalities and it will implode internally in about a month and they'll fuck off instead of the boom bust merge meta that blue had for a decade that everyone hated in retrospect

[Ennewi]

10 people do 90% of the work in a raid

A bit hyperbolic. Even so, this is the game, as designed. More people getting involved ends up being counterproductive because everyone has their own ideas about how things ought to be done. There are still plenty who actively participate and volunteer to do extra on raids. It isn't binary, either you're a playmaker or a warm body.

[Skyking]

i was literally rounding up if we wanna be honest about it

i'm not counting the grunt work like tracking without falling asleep or the odd duck who can kite a vulak guard without fucking up because running in circles is hard apparently, or the buffer who you're happy with because they actually respond in a timely matter unlike every other one in the fucking guild

none of that work matters without the pull team and we saw how toxic that arms race got, i didn't play on green but afaik none of the things that made blue turn to shit were addressed there

[Skyking]

and i say that as the warmest of warm bodies, i mained a wizard and my alt was a druid

[kjs86z2]

remember that time some autist in riot made a half hour+ long video trying to prove stunningly cheated kael races?

that was awesome.

[Ennewi]

i'm not counting the grunt work like tracking without falling asleep or the odd duck who can kite a vulak guard without fucking up because running in circles is hard apparently

Sure but let's also not ignore other moving parts required for other raid encounters, where specific class roles are understood and routinely performed as expected without instruction. Easily more than 10 non-warm bodies involve themselves with PoF, for example, and many don't fall into the category of play maker or raid leadership. They simply learn the zone and their class role in it, earning/spending DKP after rolling out of bed.

none of that work matters without the pull team

Similarly, none of the pull team's work matters without a force to kill the target. The pull team does typically involve the same familiar names, but it still adds/subtracts classes as needed from zone to zone. Bards in VP, druids/rangers in PoH, etc.

[cd288]

apparently you're new, i was in TMO and Forsaken and Aftermath and raided on blue for like 15 years, 10 people do 90% of the work in a raid, making VPNs ban-able means the people that login and afk at Seb when trak spawns because if they don't they fell behind the dkp pyramid scheme wouldn't roll out of bed at the batphone because their actual competition the 90% of warm bodies won't either.

the term warm body exists for a reason

if you have any other questions about p99 and how it works lemme know

Ah I assumed since you have a 2025 join date. I was trying to be nice and you replied with snark. Leads me to believe you're just ban evading then.

Your post also proves my point. Those people would all totally cheat and account share using VPNs etc. to switch to guild bots.

[wuanahto]

so are you folks mad that you maining a non war/rog/ench/rog/monk or bored?
maybe your a paladin and realize that extra 125hp wont save a raid when everyone else is running tunares?
maybe your 1 in 20 druids that showed up and realize you only need one for glades?
maybe your a mage that thought hey i can use my pet to dps and summon stuff for others? is that why all if not most wiki screenshots dont have pets in them?
maybe your a necro that didnt know about the debuff limit until after hitting 60?
the list can go on but you know who you are

[Skyking]

Ah I assumed since you have a 2025 join date. I was trying to be nice and you replied with snark. Leads me to believe you're just ban evading then.

Your post also proves my point. Those people would all totally cheat and account share using VPNs etc. to switch to guild bots.

>Ah I assumed since you have a 2025 join date.
you being retarded isn't my problem chief

can't ban evade when you don't value your character anymore, due to finding out your guild was literally cheating the entire time

at least i'm not gaslighting in rnf fud about something that would actually improve shit because i assume your into the blooming onion business

you can literally vibe code anti cheat at this point so idk what the actual fuck you're talking about with your point being proven

[cd288]

>Ah I assumed since you have a 2025 join date.
you being retarded isn't my problem chief

can't ban evade when you don't value your character anymore, due to finding out your guild was literally cheating the entire time

at least i'm not gaslighting in rnf fud about something that would actually improve shit because i assume your into the blooming onion business

you can literally vibe code anti cheat at this point so idk what the actual fuck you're talking about with your point being proven

Lol what is wrong with you

[Skyking]

Lol what is wrong with you

a lot.

reading a post and assuming someone with strong opinions on endgame raiding but also somehow only started playing in May of 2025 luckily isn't one of them though.

might wanna unironically check if you got a carbon monoxide leak

[Reiwa]

How? Because of machine ID? You can spoof machine ID too, just like you can change your IP with a VPN

What if like, machine ID spoofing was against the rules too?

Are we trying to protect our Iranian players?

[Reiwa]

Similarly, none of the pull team's work matters without a force to kill the target. The pull team does typically involve the same familiar names, but it still adds/subtracts classes as needed from zone to zone. Bards in VP, druids/rangers in PoH, etc.

That doesn't make them equals.

[Duik]

Seems SkyKween is a bit of an expert. Also is very salty.
Has a book been started on who it really is?

[Ennewi]

That doesn't make them equals.

Agreed, and yet while there can be no warm bodies in the pull team since it s a more active role, that doesn't mean the kill force is one great big mass of bodily warmth, which is what was being implied. I am not keen on bot armies either, and I like the Firiona Vie server rules etc, but while multiple characters and accounts doe diminish the value of certain classes, the shelf life of these servers has been extended by alts.

[Viscere]

Not gonna happen, staff is busy fixing PoH Auto-tracking

(:

[Skyking]

Seems SkyKween is a bit of an expert. Also is very salty.
Has a book been started on who it really is?

don't need to be an expert for the hot hot take of "raid scene bad"

[Duik]

Shovelquest.

Zero doubt.

[Skyking]

Shovelquest.


https://i.imgur.com/wQjJxha.gif
“You never know how you look through other people’s eyes.”

[arvidez]

Shovelquest.

Zero doubt.

nice confidence. you shoulda been a doctor

[kjs86z2]

young doctor with $1700 coffee maker

[Reiwa]

Shovelquest.

Zero doubt.

That's why you aren't allowed on the Meneltarma bud.

[Skyking]

https://i.imgur.com/pbrmC45.gif

[vales]

the progression server should either cycle faster or have recurring "revivals"

e.g. warders respawn every x weeks if all are killed, guise of the deceiver has a .05% chance to drop after classic, timorous is bindable on holidays

[cd288]

a lot.

reading a post and assuming someone with strong opinions on endgame raiding but also somehow only started playing in May of 2025 luckily isn't one of them though.

might wanna unironically check if you got a carbon monoxide leak

Your initial posts weren't really "strong" opinions. You don't need to raid for a long time to be like "wow account sharing with all these bots is kinda lame"

Could form that opinion from 1 raid lol

[Duik]

Am I the cat or the fly?

If I'm the cat I've had a feed. If I'm the fly I am now part of Pedros great circle of life.

Happy days.

[Skyking]

Am I the cat or the fly?

If I'm the cat I've had a feed. If I'm the fly I am now part of Pedros great circle of life.

Happy days.

neither i just couldn't be bothered to find Swish's gif thread, was checking if the AI did the fps and compression right for the mp4 to gif

[Duik]

the progression server should either cycle faster or have recurring "revivals"

e.g. warders respawn every x weeks if all are killed, guise of the deceiver has a .05% chance to drop after classic, timorous is bindable on holidays

This completely wrecks the "Sorry you don't got" lamentation. For some, this is the whole point of playing.

It's not the pixels themselves, it's the denying of the pixels to others.

How could you destroy this time honored tradition? Shame on you.