View Full Version : sometimes blue dips below 100 players
wuanahto
02-27-2025, 04:56 AM
im scared
is this how red felt like 15 years ago for 15 years?
im sorry for making fun of red i learned my lesson for the love of god just merge the servers already
shovelquest
02-27-2025, 05:02 AM
im scared
the ghosts of red
https://i.imgur.com/LF2rW6V.gif
onmove_broke
02-27-2025, 05:21 PM
I have a feeling that P1999 might not have permission to create a new server after their deal with Daybreak. Gonna drive a lot of people like myself to THJ pretty soon. I keep hearing good things about it
loramin
02-27-2025, 05:47 PM
I have a feeling that P1999 might not have permission to create a new server after their deal with Daybreak. Gonna drive a lot of people like myself to THJ pretty soon. I keep hearing good things about it
There's a flaw in your reasoning: the Daybreak agreement preceded Green's release. That means P99 had two servers, they signed the (secret) deal with Daybreak ... and then they went and released a brand new server.
Plus, even if that secret agreement did cap P99 at three servers, it wouldn't be a relevant limit. The staff only needs two servers to realize their vision: a "Classic" "recycle" server (ie. Green) that lasts 3-4 years and then resets, and a "Classic+" server (ie. Blue) where all the recycle server players get sent every time it recycles. Both servers already exist.
Now, none of us knows what's in the agreement ... but we do know R&N signed it to safeguard the future of P99 ... not to kill it. So, it seems far, far more likely that the lack of a new Gold/Green 2.0 server falls entirely on Rogean and Nilbog's shoulders, not Daybreak's.
(And in their defense, new servers are a lot of work; they discovered just how much when they launched Green.)
Gozuk
02-27-2025, 07:14 PM
Gonna drive a lot of people like myself to THJ pretty soon. I keep hearing good things about it
Do it..
Bardp1999
02-27-2025, 07:46 PM
There's a flaw in your reasoning: the Daybreak agreement preceded Green's release. That means P99 had two servers, they signed the (secret) deal with Daybreak ... and then they went and released a brand new server.
Plus, even if that secret agreement did cap P99 at three servers, it wouldn't be a relevant limit. The staff only needs two servers to realize their vision: a "Classic" "recycle" server (ie. Green) that lasts 3-4 years and then resets, and a "Classic+" server (ie. Blue) where all the recycle server players get sent every time it recycles. Both servers already exist.
Now, none of us knows what's in the agreement ... but we do know R&N signed it to safeguard the future of P99 ... not to kill it. So, it seems far, far more likely that the lack of a new Gold/Green 2.0 server falls entirely on Rogean and Nilbog's shoulders, not Daybreak's.
(And in their defense, new servers are a lot of work; they discovered just how much when they launched Green.)
There is a flaw in your reasoning also - the agreement was made BECAUSE of Green launching and they said "OK you can have this one but cut the shit and stop releasing servers".
Thus no Discord server, thus no new PVP server, thus complete radio silence on anything relating to the future of P99
Swish
02-27-2025, 10:14 PM
There is a flaw in your reasoning also - the agreement was made BECAUSE of Green launching and they said "OK you can have this one but cut the shit and stop releasing servers".
Thus no Discord server, thus no new PVP server, thus complete radio silence on anything relating to the future of P99
Trust me bro
Progress blue to luclin and then PoP. ded server anyway
It is time
Jimjam
02-28-2025, 07:45 AM
How many days to Discord? I’m totally stoked!
kjs86z2
02-28-2025, 09:19 AM
merge when
Sadre Spinegnawer
02-28-2025, 10:23 AM
There's a flaw in your reasoning: the Daybreak agreement preceded Green's release. That means P99 had two servers, they signed the (secret) deal with Daybreak ... and then they went and released a brand new server.
Plus, even if that secret agreement did cap P99 at three servers, it wouldn't be a relevant limit. The staff only needs two servers to realize their vision: a "Classic" "recycle" server (ie. Green) that lasts 3-4 years and then resets, and a "Classic+" server (ie. Blue) where all the recycle server players get sent every time it recycles. Both servers already exist.
Now, none of us knows what's in the agreement ... but we do know R&N signed it to safeguard the future of P99 ... not to kill it. So, it seems far, far more likely that the lack of a new Gold/Green 2.0 server falls entirely on Rogean and Nilbog's shoulders, not Daybreak's.
(And in their defense, new servers are a lot of work; they discovered just how much when they launched Green.)
Any review of my post history proves finding a good point or argument is like finding a neutrino in a frozen cave at the South Pole: you *might* find one. That "we might have found one" is your best case.
Loramin and a few others meanwhile keep making the sane points. Just thought I would note for the record books. Some people have the patiene of a saint.
Confit
03-01-2025, 11:48 AM
Progress blue to luclin and then PoP. ded server anyway
It is time
This is the only way. A meta shakeup will only bring back a limited number of players. New content release would bring back a hell of a lot more existing players and even new players.
Salaryman
03-01-2025, 12:31 PM
RED99
Ciderpress
03-01-2025, 04:29 PM
Devs here keep releasing patches with content timeline updates that are prior to the current timeline on blue or green or red, so they obviously intend to release a new server at some point or there would be zero reason to do that.
aaezil
03-02-2025, 01:12 AM
Wait more than 100 still log in?
Trelaboon
03-08-2025, 09:18 AM
It’s time to at the minimum, merge blue and green. The fact that there are like 200-300 people online at most hours of the day is proof enough we need this to happen. Why have two dead servers that serve as just raid emulators? Merge the two and at least gain some of the population back.
Between Quarm, Pantheon and THJ, we’re bleeding
putrid_plum
03-08-2025, 02:36 PM
Dev don't care what players want, it's their project and if it had 0 players they would keep chugging on making it semi-classic.
Ciderpress
03-24-2025, 08:07 PM
If daybreak wanted to nuke this thing they have a funny way of showing it.
When nintendo wants to nuke something they do it like same day.
Trexller
03-24-2025, 09:00 PM
If daybreak wanted to nuke this thing they have a funny way of showing it.
that's what ive been saying for a decade
they really don't care, their game is free to play too, if people really wanted to play it they would. Fan servers keep the brand recognition from dying out, and all most us have at least bought a krono in the last few years.
It’s time to at the minimum, merge blue and green. The fact that there are like 200-300 people online at most hours of the day is proof enough we need this to happen. Why have two dead servers that serve as just raid emulators? Merge the two and at least gain some of the population back.
Between Quarm, Pantheon and THJ, we’re bleeding
The question is, how many would come back from the ezmode servers if there was a merge of blue/green and fresh recycle server launched? Once they've tasted those basically free zero-effort pixels, would they want to put in the time anymore?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/How_%27ya_gonna_keep_%27em_down_on_the_farm_%28Aft er_they%27ve_seen_Paree%29_%28SM-2-073%29.jpg
WarpathEQ
03-25-2025, 10:18 AM
Imagine actually reading the posts from the Devs and the bug/exploit section of the forums and actually understanding what the Devs are focused on and therefore the likely checkpoints they need to achieve to release a new server. Surely that would take all the fun out of another weekly speculation thread.
Salaryman
03-25-2025, 11:54 AM
RED99
Teddie1056
03-25-2025, 10:28 PM
The real issue is that one guild is 90% of the server and just crushes all competition.
There is no healthy competition on this server. Riot and now Fuse are a cancer that have absolutely drained this server of its lifeblood.
We need a merge, both to keep the playerbase strong, but also to foster that top end instability.
Jimjam
03-26-2025, 06:54 AM
Merge green in to Fuse?
kjs86z2
03-26-2025, 08:26 AM
The real issue is that one guild is 90% of the server and just crushes all competition.
There is no healthy competition on this server. Riot and now Fuse are a cancer that have absolutely drained this server of its lifeblood.
We need a merge, both to keep the playerbase strong, but also to foster that top end instability.
unroot the dragons and 1 hour FTE lockouts
problem solved
Viscere
03-26-2025, 09:37 AM
Merge plz
The question is, how many would come back from the ezmode servers if there was a merge of blue/green and fresh recycle server launched? Once they've tasted those basically free zero-effort pixels, would they want to put in the time anymore?
Then those peeps who arent interested in classic difficulty are not the target of this server.
What we are forgetting is this is rog/bogs sandpit. They dont not care what we think, it's that they just want bug reports/ proof of anomalies in the current servers. To make their vision of the museum piece that is P1999.
That's it.
The target isnt to recreate classic everquest AND maintain a certain level of population.
Sadre Spinegnawer
03-26-2025, 01:18 PM
We need a merge, both to keep the playerbase strong, but also to foster that top end instability.
You've gotta have that top end instability, baby.
Either that or server xfers. Make the choice.
wuanahto
03-27-2025, 12:33 AM
either that or server xfers. Make the choice.
1 month cooldown per character
1-2 hours wait time on the transfer
automatic discord/forum alert/list on who is transferring
wuanahto
03-27-2025, 03:02 AM
And level restrictions, cant see a reason on transferring anyone under level 20
Sadre Spinegnawer
03-27-2025, 02:15 PM
If this is an archive quality game, this project, allowing players to move around the exhibits in the museum seems righteous.
One should even be able to visit the Laboratory of Grotesqueries and move to Red.
We are no longer playing for anything real here. This isn't a business, it isn't "still being finished." It is finished.
So let us move around in it, if a new server is not happening.
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