LINEAGE - Corruption at the Top

[Wild1999]

I want to thank anyone I had the enjoyment of playing p99 with over the years. If you ever played with Williy / Medicinally/ Astras I wish you all the best and for the time. Lineage is a corrupt guild from the top. Please invest in Castle / Safe Space if you are new or exploring for a place to call family. Play with Strength, Honor, and Integrity! Remind Shinko he still owes me for the halfling foot photos. - Williy, the Dead Bard

[Fawqueue]

Would have been nice if this post included:


An actual accusation.
Some evidence.
Literally any detail that's isn't "trust me bro."


I'm not even in Lineage, but there's nothing to see here.

[Wild1999]

Gladly. One second. I dont know what's allowed or not I didnt read the fourms but I'll lay it all out and let the community reach their own conclusions.

[Wild1999]

My name is Ryan, but if you know me at all, you would know me by Williy, Medicinally, or Astras. I come to you for a solution on events that took place on P99 Green Sever on February 15th 2025. I ask you please consider the events that took place before, during, and after the Valentines Day Quake and make a collective determination and response in sanction if any at all is deemed proper.

On February 14 , 2025 Lineage downed Vox spawned from the quake. Among the items dropped by Vox - White Dragon Scales - were collected. The items were collected by the guild with a disposition to be bid out in Discord; a common practice I believe all those represented here use. Before the White Dragon Scales were put into a discord auction they are subjected to an eligibility check. The process of verifying who is eligible to bid on the item or if there is a player among who holds a elevated loot award status i.e. first, second, or greed. I did postulate to the guild by definition that I was among first tier loot filtering. Primary registered character is a level 60 Bard. There were no other players in attendance that could claim a elevated loot position. leadership made a determination that because I already had my Singing Short Sword that I would not be given any elevated loot position. I agreed that the ruling was fair, but that it should be outlined as condition for exclusion for transparency in the guilds DKP document.

The White Dragon Scales were then placed in a Discord auction at the greed level for all those who were present on the DKP tick taken upon VoX ToD.

- Please see the Auction Channel Posting

- Please see the Auction page for the White Dragon Scales.

The auction went live and there were post made but no official post. I made the first post bidding all my current holdings of DKP at 351. a guild member who is upset that he didn't fall into the guilds criteria on being in an elevated loot position made an invalid post for 1; his bid had to be higher then my all in to be valid. The server then quaked for a second time at 7:41p 2/15 closing the auction per guild rules. The guild made an announcement that they were not going to honor the quake triggering what i call a "fate" closing of the auction. As you can clearly see outlined on the auction page header and bid page itself. Another raider was allowed to bid that took me out of winning what should have been closed. i raised the question. The guild closed the auction. The leadership is now cold shouldering the issue at hand and made a post intending to reopen the White Dragon Scales tomorrow with the same rules starting at Zero. There is no reason given other than the quake caching officers eligible to bid but had not done so at the time of 2nd quake. There is no reason for this auction to be redone, and no way for the auction to be fair as it was closed by a "fate" event that was forethought into the auction system itself. I am asking for assistance and options to receive a clear and reasonable answer on why a valid auction isn't being honored. why is it being re auctioned. Its clearly a high value item that is being with held from me. The item is set to be reauctioned tomorrow with no response on why the first was invalid or would justify such a action to be taken other than someone won it who wasnt suppose to as the quake clause caught them with their pants down. Can I upload photos to prove?

[Wild1999]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-dAX7xKe3y6vBBso2swXaOUPv2sDYPGH

[Wild1999]

Cheers - Willy

[Wild1999]

Kicker of the story. Is i intended to use the scale to farm brestplates for the guild to sell to the alliance to raise platinum for the guild and vowed to after farming use the Lute body to MQ a guild owned Bard Bot. Someone at the top is more interested in pp than guild health, integrity, and honor. So, blatant I cant imagine anyone not being able to follow what's happening here...

[Wild1999]

I already handed out all my toons loot to random players across Green server today. So, I'm out... what they have done is too much of a transgression and GMs as I figured took the position of not getting involved in a guilds internal loot process. But, this is raider 101. It reads like a child's picture book. Stay away and invest elsewhere. Don't buy the scale or investigate for RMT? Who knows what's really going on...

[Ekco]

if i was in charge of your shitter guild, i'd turn that fucking scale into a cloak.

then nobody wins

[Wild1999]

TBH I stopped caring after my weak argument to get the scale by preference as there was no way I was going to win by DKP and I already had my epic. When it quaked and I realized I was the only one who placed a bit it was a moment. The quake clause; had done it! It did the quake clause thing; was nothing buy drama after and the most crazy response in my raiding history to the pint where none of this was about the scale for me. I wanted the scale by the ent to do an open server /ran 100,000,000. After GMs told me sorry, what more is there to do. I threw my 400k in Tradeable gears to all the lower lvls in WC / EC and bomb dropped a couple Dial a Ports for all the times they got a bit shotred by Williy when he was singing the blues. I'm done on this those.. i need to move on this chapter is closed .

[Duik]

I saw the thread title and thought we had a new Linage expat.
LINEAGE - Corruption at the Top. Sounds legit.

Disappointed to say the least.

0/10 for thread OP.
A bad guild is like a bad stock.

[Trollhide]

So if I understand right: you, a bard with epic, expected some kind of priority on a white scale by virtue of the fact that it is for the bard epic quest and you are a bard?

[Old_PVP]

An already epic bard wants white scales which are realistically only used for bard epic in order to sell and / or RMT, gets mad when others bid against him. Throws fit and rage quits. Proceeds to fuck up once more and give away all his loots.

Should have went to RED.

[Ekco]

>i intended to use the scale to farm brestplates for the guild to sell to the alliance to raise platinum for the guild and vowed to after farming use the Lute body to MQ a guild owned Bard Bot.

this is p99's version of a Solana memecoin scam, lets add extra steps and involve OP when the guild can theoretically already do this via a guild bot if they needed to

[bmcgaffey20]

Maibbin here. I run this shitter guild. The policy is tier 1 items have to be won by a 60/main. The two bards present were 52 and already 60(epic) so neither fit existing policy on this item so it went open bid. Both melted down, one nuclear. Cheers and your welcome for the content.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Gladly. One second. I dont know what's allowed or not I didnt read the fourms but I'll lay it all out and let the community reach their own conclusions.

Text Balrog incoming.

Fly you fools!

[Ekco]

Maibbin here. I run this shitter guild. The policy is tier 1 items have to be won by a 60/main. The two bards present were 52 and already 60(epic) so neither fit existing policy on this item so it went open bid. Both melted down, one nuclear. Cheers and your welcome for the content.

most sane guild leader I've seen on this website, do another quake for this king.

[shovelquest]

I saw the thread title and thought we had a new Linage expat.
LINEAGE - Corruption at the Top. Sounds legit.

Disappointed to say the least.

0/10 for thread OP.
A bad guild is like a bad stock.

that would be your favorite game lol :D:D:D

[ace1]

Maibbin here. I run this shitter guild. The policy is tier 1 items have to be won by a 60/main. The two bards present were 52 and already 60(epic) so neither fit existing policy on this item so it went open bid. Both melted down, one nuclear. Cheers and your welcome for the content.

But why didn’t he win it when the quake happened?

[bmcgaffey20]

Because the auction was brought down when a private sale of dkp tried to occur when the policy is bidding in the public dkp channel. Leadership had to pause to decide if we were going to allow this to effect the outcome of the whitescale. Further, the dkp sale tried to circumvent the guilds policy on taxes of those public sales by selling for pennies on the dollar. The spirit of the written rules were broken in so many ways with this open bid format white dragon scale that we are thoroughly disappointed.

[bmcgaffey20]

In the absence of leadership there is policy. In the absence of policy there is common sense.

[Mordnacht]

Yikes.

We spent a whole night and day with two people upset over the white scales drop, which further kept auctions from taking place, as a whole, as we strived to tell them the regulations and rules that were in place and make sure their concerns were answers and discussed.

Both people who believe they were rightfully owed the scales.
A lvl 59 bard who has his epic and tries to find loop holes in the rules from the get go and a lvl 52 vox bard who had no intentions of leveling to 60 anyway, else he would have had his scales already as our rules allowed for 60 alts to have more priority over under 60 alts.

52 Vox Bard advocated for full greed DKP and when it was changed to accommodate, while still maintaining our fairness to main toons who don't have their epics (our new rules actually screw over mains compared to previous regulations around Epics, btw) they cried foul that they shouldn't have to fight people for their 4th epic.

This put our auctions up 3 hours before a 2nd quake, which, out of fairness to everyone who was bidding on all items and people who did not SEE the auctions yet (not just on the stupid white scales) time to bid to the regular soft close end time promised.

When told the reasons why, which was publicly announce at time of quake to all the guild, who were validly UPSET they didnt have time to bid because of the prior drama over pixels. He didn't address concerns then, he addressed concerns in public the next day and spent the whole time arguing back and forth - when also saying "your reasons are valid and I am not going to argue" "Sorry if this caused any issues" - yet continues to argue and post it everywhere, including going to the GMs and the forums to discuss how upset he is.

People have the right to be upset. However, trying to circumvent rules and find loop holes, as well as trying to back door deal sell DKP for pennies, which also went against rules and regulations he so adamantly talks about.

We removed the auction until they would calm down and think about how they were acting, pending put up another day with the exact same rules and a fresh bid. This is a freaking game and when I put my time and effort into this game to help run a guild and two people have wasted my night, wasted two days of my time away from my family and other things I could have been doing for the guild. It's time to step back and think outside yourself please.

We aren't children. We are full grown adults. No wonder GM's get frustrated publicly. 3 years I have sat here and dealt with man children over pixels and the only reason I still stay is because there is a good community in Lineage who like what the rules have provided them and provided a community they can have fun and progress themselves in. We aren't perfect and you can go get whatever you want in other guilds, but I strive to make sure we are fair to everyone and people actually like to come on this game and enjoy themselves, even if they leave to another guild.

At the end of the day pixels don't transfer to real life. Your attitude, the way you communicate to people, the way you act is what people remember about you. Not what items you have. No offense to the people who take their pixels seriously, but I hated raiding on blue because of the toxicity and I don't care about pixels. I'll give my god damn KT shoes off my feet to someone who is deserving of them or sell them to fund someone else's epic. It's who I am and who I will always be.

I can allow people dragging my name through the mud as a leader, but I wont allow someone to spit false facts around and muddy the name of the entire guild of people who exist in Lineage and are good people. At the end of the day I continue to put forth what is beneficial for the entire guild as a whole, while trying out peoples ideas. It's not just about one person, there's a whole guild we take into consideration whenever we make changes or divert from regulations for situations.

[Ekco]

Reasoned for a few seconds

Imagine you're at a big birthday party where everyone's excited to get a piece of cake. But two kids start arguing about who should get the biggest slice. One kid, who's kind of a rule-bender, tries to twist the party rules to grab extra cake, while the other kid just grumbles and complains, even though he wasn’t really aiming for the big slice anyway.

Their loud fight delays the cake cutting, making everyone wait. The party host (the guild leader) is super frustrated because he spent the whole day trying to calm them down instead of enjoying the party with his friends. In the end, he reminds everyone that it's just cake—not a reason to be a grumpy meanie—and that sharing and having fun is what really matters.

[Duik]

that would be your favorite game lol :D:D:D

[Duik]

Never played it.

Friends have.

Try again numpty.

[Bukowski]

lol

[Rynk]

Bad bard man child claims corruption of guild leaders because he doesn't get his second white scale? And the two people he's trying to claim are corrupt both have characters that essentially can't be upgraded from the content you're clearing, and almost don't play other than in an administrative capacity because they're sick of dealing with people who act exactly the way you're acting.

People like you and your roommate are the reason why I left Lineage. Not only do you both act like babies. You both don't understand basic mechanics of the game are legitimately arent good, which would be tolerable if not for your attitudes. Glad your gone. Please don't ever come back to the game. Hopefully Maibbin and Mord will purge the other babies from the guild so we can get some more competition on the server.

[Ekco]

Everyone hated TMO for gatekeeping loot on blue, in reality they were the thin blue line preventing lord of the flies situations in the casual family guilds.

Order must be reinstated, the casuals yearn for the dictatorship again.

[Duik]

Only cucks think that others yearn to be controlled by a daddy figure.
It's called projection. You should ask chumpGPT about it.

[Ekco]

Only cucks think that others yearn to be controlled by a daddy figure.

You're right, Religion isn't popular at all. so lol at that retard logic.

gonna assume you're mad about the game so,

show me on the paper doll where the big bad guild hurt you buddy.

https://i.imgur.com/lJvLcYV.png

[Wild1999]

Because the auction was brought down when a private sale of dkp tried to occur when the policy is bidding in the public dkp channel. Leadership had to pause to decide if we were going to allow this to effect the outcome of the whitescale. Further, the dkp sale tried to circumvent the guilds policy on taxes of those public sales by selling for pennies on the dollar. The spirit of the written rules were broken in so many ways with this open bid format white dragon scale that we are thoroughly disappointed.

This is a lie.. i offered to sell my dkp to the other bard, after they said they were going to not honor the quake clause.

[shovelquest]

Reasoned for a few seconds

Imagine you're at a big birthday party where everyone's excited to get a piece of cake. But two kids start arguing about who should get the biggest slice. One kid, who's kind of a rule-bender, tries to twist the party rules to grab extra cake, while the other kid just grumbles and complains, even though he wasn’t really aiming for the big slice anyway.

Their loud fight delays the cake cutting, making everyone wait. The party host (the guild leader) is super frustrated because he spent the whole day trying to calm them down instead of enjoying the party with his friends. In the end, he reminds everyone that it's just cake—not a reason to be a grumpy meanie—and that sharing and having fun is what really matters.

I WANT MY CAKE YOU SUNVABITCH!

https://i.imgur.com/26UVrEd.png

[Wild1999]

Maibbin here. I run this shitter guild. The policy is tier 1 items have to be won by a 60/main. The two bards present were 52 and already 60(epic) so neither fit existing policy on this item so it went open bid. Both melted down, one nuclear. Cheers and your welcome for the content.

Lies... I ever metled down until after the second quake and you didn't honor the auction ends on quake. I was fine with it going to auction.

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/TRpF9Po.gif

I REFUSE!

[bmcgaffey20]

Again, to buy or sell dkp, for full transparency, you must offer the dkp for sale in a public channel where anyone can bid on it.

[Wild1999]

This is a lie.. i offered to sell my dkp to the other bard, after they said they were going to not honor the quake clause.

Moreover , policy was changed that DKP could be solt at any rate of the sellers choosing as long as the tax was paid. They are trying to cover up and deflect here.

[Wild1999]

I WANT MY CAKE YOU SUNVABITCH!

https://i.imgur.com/26UVrEd.png

The only time I argued anything was when the auction wasn't closed at the point of the second quake.

[shovelquest]

quake.

It's spelled cake.

[Wild1999]

Yikes.

We spent a whole night and day with two people upset over the white scales drop, which further kept auctions from taking place, as a whole, as we strived to tell them the regulations and rules that were in place and make sure their concerns were answers and discussed.

Both people who believe they were rightfully owed the scales.
A lvl 59 bard who has his epic and tries to find loop holes in the rules from the get go and a lvl 52 vox bard who had no intentions of leveling to 60 anyway, else he would have had his scales already as our rules allowed for 60 alts to have more priority over under 60 alts.

52 Vox Bard advocated for full greed DKP and when it was changed to accommodate, while still maintaining our fairness to main toons who don't have their epics (our new rules actually screw over mains compared to previous regulations around Epics, btw) they cried foul that they shouldn't have to fight people for their 4th epic.

This put our auctions up 3 hours before a 2nd quake, which, out of fairness to everyone who was bidding on all items and people who did not SEE the auctions yet (not just on the stupid white scales) time to bid to the regular soft close end time promised.

When told the reasons why, which was publicly announce at time of quake to all the guild, who were validly UPSET they didnt have time to bid because of the prior drama over pixels. He didn't address concerns then, he addressed concerns in public the next day and spent the whole time arguing back and forth - when also saying "your reasons are valid and I am not going to argue" "Sorry if this caused any issues" - yet continues to argue and post it everywhere, including going to the GMs and the forums to discuss how upset he is.

People have the right to be upset. However, trying to circumvent rules and find loop holes, as well as trying to back door deal sell DKP for pennies, which also went against rules and regulations he so adamantly talks about.

We removed the auction until they would calm down and think about how they were acting, pending put up another day with the exact same rules and a fresh bid. This is a freaking game and when I put my time and effort into this game to help run a guild and two people have wasted my night, wasted two days of my time away from my family and other things I could have been doing for the guild. It's time to step back and think outside yourself please.

We aren't children. We are full grown adults. No wonder GM's get frustrated publicly. 3 years I have sat here and dealt with man children over pixels and the only reason I still stay is because there is a good community in Lineage who like what the rules have provided them and provided a community they can have fun and progress themselves in. We aren't perfect and you can go get whatever you want in other guilds, but I strive to make sure we are fair to everyone and people actually like to come on this game and enjoy themselves, even if they leave to another guild.

At the end of the day pixels don't transfer to real life. Your attitude, the way you communicate to people, the way you act is what people remember about you. Not what items you have. No offense to the people who take their pixels seriously, but I hated raiding on blue because of the toxicity and I don't care about pixels. I'll give my god damn KT shoes off my feet to someone who is deserving of them or sell them to fund someone else's epic. It's who I am and who I will always be.

I can allow people dragging my name through the mud as a leader, but I wont allow someone to spit false facts around and muddy the name of the entire guild of people who exist in Lineage and are good people. At the end of the day I continue to put forth what is beneficial for the entire guild as a whole, while trying out peoples ideas. It's not just about one person, there's a whole guild we take into consideration whenever we make changes or divert from regulations for situations.

There you have the guild leader admitting. The auction was live. A bid was placed and did not honor the quake clause. That simple.

[Ekco]

we're gonna need some more internal guild drama, nobody reading in 2025 actually gives a fuck about white dragon loot still.

https://i.giphy.com/l46Cgctdy5C23iB0c.webp

[Wild1999]

There you have the guild leader admitting. The auction was live. A bid was placed and did not honor the quake clause. That simple.


The entire argument took place AFTER the auction AFTER the 2nd quake ended. HoURS after the 2nd quake happened. And you act like this was an argument. I had 2 post asking about why it was open and not closed. 2 post responding to the bard who never even bid.

[Ekco]

where's this other bard, i wanna hear his side of this

[shovelquest]

Can someone TLDR what happened?

Bard with epic wants a white dragon scale
Some kind of bid process happens on WDS
Distractions happen.
WDS goes where?

[Ekco]

story as old as time, bard wants to farm undead bard for hundreds of breastplates but mom(guild leader) won't let him.

[Wild1999]

we're gonna need some more internal guild drama, nobody reading in 2025 actually gives a fuck about white dragon loot still.

https://i.giphy.com/l46Cgctdy5C23iB0c.webp



This is pointless. You have the leadership admitting everything here... you have them throwing after events as supports for events that proceed events. Corruption. Message stands: find a different place to grow players, Lineage isnt it.

[Wild1999]

story as old as time, bard wants to farm undead bard for hundreds of breastplates but mom(guild leader) won't let him.

Ecko are you mentally capped. The whole point is i legitimately won the scale by the standards and rules they set. Then circumvent their own policy when "not enough time went by" so at what point then will the auction end on quake policy apply? Must be the 6th hour... doh..

[shovelquest]

Can you do a bullet point list beat by beat what happened.

[Ekco]

Ecko are you mentally capped. The whole point is i legitimately won the scale by the standards and rules they set. Then circumvent their own policy when "not enough time went by" so at what point then will the auction end on quake policy apply? Must be the 6th hour... doh..

yes, but also not capped enough fr fr no cap, to be a warm body in a real guild that doesn't have their entire bard wing have a melty over a epic piece in 2025

like holy fuck my dude, how does drama like this even happen on a dead box with only 600 people playing on it still.

[Wild1999]

Ecko are you mentally capped. The whole point is i legitimately won the scale by the standards and rules they set. Then circumvent their own policy when "not enough time went by" so at what point then will the auction end on quake policy apply? Must be the 6th hour... doh..


The whole point of a quake clause ending an auction is for the wildcard factor it bring to the table. It lets the guy who maybee dosnet have a bunch of dkp get a chance. It locks out sleepers who wait tell the last minute. It adds a randomness to the auction like a quake itself in essance.

Point and case:

The auction was live. The auction had a quake clause. The auction had 1 bidder for 5 hours. It quaked. End of case.

[Wild1999]

yes, but also not capped enough fr fr no cap, to be a warm body in a real guild that doesn't have their entire bard wing have a melty over a epic piece in 2025

like holy fuck my dude, how does drama like this even happen on a dead box with only 600 people playing on it still.

I wasnt the bard having a meltdown. Yes, I got mad when policy wasnt what we being followed. Policy that let me win when I otherwise wasnt going to. I gaurentee if a bid was posted insted of birdman, and it went to a soft close the quake clause would then have been honored.

[chillybob]

https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000118323913-k2ol07-t240x240.jpg

[Reiwa]

The whole point of a quake clause ending an auction is for the wildcard factor it bring to the table. It lets the guy who maybee dosnet have a bunch of dkp get a chance. It locks out sleepers who wait tell the last minute. It adds a randomness to the auction like a quake itself in essance.

Point and case:

The auction was live. The auction had a quake clause. The auction had 1 bidder for 5 hours. It quaked. End of case.

That sounds pretty cut and dry that they screwed you over.

[Ciderpress]

When did lineage actually start raiding? I remember I was in that guild in like 2020 and it sort of died and went nowhere, now I see the tag a lot. Which guild's members did they suddenly absorb?

[bmcgaffey20]

When did lineage actually start raiding? I remember I was in that guild in like 2020 and it sort of died and went nowhere, now I see the tag a lot. Which guild's members did they suddenly absorb?

None. A lot of recruiting from the grass roots and building up individuals to be raid ready. Retention is difficult but with drafts and quakes we are able to make steady gains over the last 2 years. We have been drafted for atleast 18 months and killed everything except a few of the harder targets.

[bmcgaffey20]

That sounds pretty cut and dry that they screwed you over.



Audit log of the discord showing the auction was closed hours before the quake. It was closed for the previously me mentioned reasons not because a winner was declared. Then it quaked again.

[bmcgaffey20]

https://postimg.cc/75LLQBqz

[Reiwa]

https://postimg.cc/75LLQBqz

What time was his bid? He said it was up for 5 hours.

[Wild1999]

What time was his bid? He said it was up for 5 hours.



Auction went live at 2:51p on Fed 15 2025
I placed an all in bid at 3:49p Feb 15 2025
2nd Quake at 7:41p Feb 15 2026

[Wild1999]

There are photos of the auction and auction page in the Google drive at the start of all this.

[Wild1999]

Audit log of the discord showing the auction was closed hours before the quake. It was closed for the previously me mentioned reasons not because a winner was declared. Then it quaked again.


Wrong. What you are referring too is the following morning when I offered all my DKP to the other bard for 10p per 1 dkp and they blocked the sale. Though any seller is allowed to sell their dkp at anyprice as long as they pay the guild the tax.

All of this is a distraction to the theft of the scale.

[bhughes]

I don't know why it's always said that boxing killed EQ. Human beings trying to lead guilds, always having to deal with issues like this. Did "drama" kill EQ? I blamed AA's, they made alts useless.

The only reason the white scale was obtained was because a system was in place that brought 30 people together for a common cause. Without that system there is no loot.

Why not work with leaders, suggest alternatives, this whole thread's entire message seems to say that this will be the one and only white scale to drop and obtaining one right here, right now is the only course of action. This isn't the mage epic, it's just a white scale!

Lineage management has routinely stated that anyone can step up and pitch in, become a new voice in leadership. Why not work with them to obtain what you want instead of trying to burn the house down?

Perhaps Lineage will collapse now, another guild gone. It wasn't for trying though. Green turns blue. I guess I'll have to go play an emulated WoW to really bring things to full circle LOL.

[Reiwa]

second scale theft nayrue has been involved it

[Wild1999]

second scale theft nayrue has been involved it

After raiding for contless hours it definitely surprises me. But after it has all played out, and the way it all played out , from start to finish...looking back... 100%.. there is a shadow hand here.. if they want it there is nothing you will be able to do... Willing to bet a parse of the DKP holdings would show you the fingers.

[Wild1999]

The 2nd quake made them break cover. Bet 1/3 of the comments here are from pocket holders.. its too clear for anyone who has two cents... Feel bad for the ones who were never able to realize they were literally puppets feed scraps.. I never needed any of the loot Lineage mostly acquired, never paid much attention but I bet if someone did, it wouldn't take long to connect the . . .

[Talon]

Lol. Green guilds have multiple ex lineage members that have very high value loot (read warrior, bard, and other epics, CT loot, etc) Shadowy hands hoarding loot? Get a grip, my guy. Literally just trashed your account over a white scale while ALREADY HAVING AN EPIC! It so amazing, like honestly I almost respect that haha.

[zelld52]

Text Balrog incoming.

Fly you fools!

[Bukowski]

There was a part of me that felt the urge to chime in and speak up on behalf of Mordnacht/Lineage leadership, but since no one believes him I guess there isn't any point.

Anyway, for someone putting this behind them and "moving on" you aren't doing a very good job of it.

[Wild1999]

Lol. Green guilds have multiple ex lineage members that have very high value loot (read warrior, bard, and other epics, CT loot, etc) Shadowy hands hoarding loot? Get a grip, my guy. Literally just trashed your account over a white scale while ALREADY HAVING AN EPIC! It so amazing, like honestly I almost respect that haha.


This, was not about the scale. This is simply about what my experience was regarding the scale. Fuck the scale. If read any of this you would know i had no plans to even use the scale in any way that I could profit from. It was going to be made into a Lute body for guild trakan farm / then be a MQ for a guild bot bard. I'm over it the greed in this game is sick; and if you think in any way a greed embodiment surrounded me shows only ignorance to everything this was, is, and point of even making this post. This post is simply to let others not go through it.. How much do you think I care if I threw 400k to random players, and felt good about ir?... At the end of all of this, most of you just came here to talk shit or cloud the message, and all that did was speak volumes about yourself.. What purpose or benefit could i possibly be after, or gain from lying. They already admitted to it here in the fourms... won't be responding to this thread anymore. There is enough information here to understand what happened. Everything in the end finds a balance. - Karma -

[Wild1999]

Lol. Green guilds have multiple ex lineage members that have very high value loot (read warrior, bard, and other epics, CT loot, etc) Shadowy hands hoarding loot? Get a grip, my guy. Literally just trashed your account over a white scale while ALREADY HAVING AN EPIC! It so amazing, like honestly I almost respect that haha.


This, was not about the scale. This is simply about what my experience was regarding the scale. Fuck the scale. If read any of this you would know i had no plans to even use the scale in any way that I could profit from. It was going to be made into a Lute body for guild trakan farm / then be a MQ for a guild bot bard. I'm over it the greed in this game is sick; and if you think in any way a greed embodiment surrounded me shows only ignorance to everything this was, is, and point of even making this post. This post is simply to let others not go through it.. How much do you think I care if I threw 400k to random players, and felt good about ir?... At the end of all of this, most of you just came here to talk shit or cloud the message, and all that did was speak volumes about yourself.. What purpose or benefit could i possibly be after, or gain from lying. They already admitted to it here in the fourms... won't be responding to this thread anymore. There is enough information here to understand what happened. Everything in the end finds a balance. - Karma -

[Wild1999]

Can a moderator please lock this thread. Any value there is or was, is already here...

[Bukowski]

.. i need to move on this chapter is closed .

[bmcgaffey20]

[QUOTE]
Perhaps Lineage will collapse now, another guild gone. It wasn't for trying though. Green turns blue. I guess I'll have to go play an emulated WoW to really bring things to full circle LOL.

No. Least concerned with this as ever. 12 target quakes. 7 green scales in 6 months. 4 white scales. 1 drama. Ndb. No theft occurred, we stepped in to stop the gaming of the loot policies on an extremely high value auction in effort to make sure it was done right. We have stated our stance. That's all there is to it. Nobody else in the guild feels there was theft. Lineage leadership will no longer be replying to this thread to speak unto the void my friends.

[Ekco]

^

entire thread was fake and a recruitment thread / subtle brag about loot from quakes.

well played sir

[Reiwa]

No. Least concerned with this as ever. 12 target quakes. 7 green scales in 6 months. 4 white scales. 1 drama. Ndb. No theft occurred, we stepped in to stop the gaming of the loot policies on an extremely high value auction in effort to make sure it was done right. We have stated our stance. That's all there is to it. Nobody else in the guild feels there was theft. Lineage leadership will no longer be replying to this thread to speak unto the void my friends.

It's not new information that you shut down the auction.

OP told us you did, on extremely shady grounds.

According to the timeline as presented by OP, you did so far beyond the time it should have ended(with him the winner) per the rules of the guild.

Shutting down discussion while asserting your innocence with no contravening evidence as to the fact of your guilt is extremely weak tea.

Verdict for the plaintiff.

[cd288]

First, IIRC the staff aren't going to get involved in disputes within a guild over their loot policy. They can run their policy and make decisions and you're free to join a different guild. Maybe I'm wrong though and the staff does intercede in this stuff, but I would be surprised.

I'm also confused why your Bard would get priority under any guild's loot policy. Another Bard needing scales for their epic should always get priority over you since you're just trying to sell the MQ. It also sounds like you think that you should win because a second quake happened ridiculously soon after they started the auction thereby not giving anyone else time to bid, which seems unfair and seems like your guild's leadership did the right thing here.

[cd288]

Does anyone know if OP even lost the second auction? If there was one?

It sounds like he had a ton of DKP and probably would've won the auction. It also sounds like this was put up for a second auction because an out of nowhere quake disrupted the first one. Did OP bid in the second auction and lose?

[bmcgaffey20]

No. He went nuclear first. The last I checked it's a mage main with no mage epic.

[bmcgaffey20]

Ends at 8pm est today

[Reiwa]

Does anyone know if OP even lost the second auction? If there was one?

It sounds like he had a ton of DKP and probably would've won the auction. It also sounds like this was put up for a second auction because an out of nowhere quake disrupted the first one. Did OP bid in the second auction and lose?

It's been said they have a rule that auctions end via "fate" when the next quake happens.

[bmcgaffey20]

There are 3 AoN auctions. 5 cloak of flames. And a floodgates of pissed off people when the 2nd quake went out. It was valentines day and many players had no opportunities to respond to the discord auctions. Ironically, the only one upset about the extension and soft closes us the OP

[Reiwa]

There are 3 AoN auctions. 5 cloak of flames. And a floodgates of pissed off people when the 2nd quake went out. It was valentines day and many players had no opportunities to respond to the discord auctions. Ironically, the only one upset about the extension and soft closes us the OP

Don't make rules if you aren't going to follow them?

Defrauding another player is against the PNP.

[cd288]

It's been said they have a rule that auctions end via "fate" when the next quake happens.

It's completely reasonable to say hey there were two quakes in quick succession and it was a holiday weekend where people had real life things going on and couldn't pay attention to the auction in a short 4-5 hour window (when normally auction windows in guilds are much longer).

Instead of having a melt down, OP should be understanding that leadership are trying to do the fair thing and give all guildies a chance to review the auction and make a decision (you would think as a guild member you'd be happy for your guildies to get this opportunity, even if it's for an item you want). OP then had the opportunity to bid in the 2n2 auction and should've done so.

At the very least, he shouldn't throw a fit until he knew if he lost the 2nd auction. This whole thing might be a moot point because it seems like he had a lot of DKP and probably would've won the greed auction.

[Bardp1999]

Lineage leadership offered me a pixel package to join the guild if I would send nude shots on my in game character. I sent these screen shots and was offered no pixel package. BURN THE WITCHES

[Ekco]

Can a moderator please lock this thread. Any value there is or was, is already here...

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RnF don't got no safe words fam, your only salvation is going to be when someone else has a slight melty and makes a thread or everyone gets bored and goes home from this BBQ party you started on the front lawn

it's a right of passage, can go laugh at my Quillmane thread if you want.

[Reiwa]

It's completely reasonable to say hey there were two quakes in quick succession and it was a holiday weekend where people had real life things going on and couldn't pay attention to the auction in a short 4-5 hour window (when normally auction windows in guilds are much longer).

Instead of having a melt down, OP should be understanding that leadership are trying to do the fair thing and give all guildies a chance to review the auction and make a decision (you would think as a guild member you'd be happy for your guildies to get this opportunity, even if it's for an item you want). OP then had the opportunity to bid in the 2n2 auction and should've done so.

At the very least, he shouldn't throw a fit until he knew if he lost the 2nd auction. This whole thing might be a moot point because it seems like he had a lot of DKP and probably would've won the greed auction.

Why is the onus on OP to accomodate the suspension of the rules to his detriment?

You of all people should know the rule of law is paramount.

[shovelquest]

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RnF don't got no safe words fam, your only salvation is going to be when someone else has a slight melty and makes a thread or everyone gets bored and goes home from this BBQ party you started on the front lawn

it's a right of passage, can go laugh at my Quillmane thread if you want.

This why there is no edit in rnf.

NO RAGRETS!

[cd288]

Why is the onus on OP to accomodate the suspension of the rules to his detriment?

You of all people should know the rule of law is paramount.

I think reasonable people can agree that it seems like their policy wasn't accounting for the possibility of a quake like a couple hours after it was put up.

I think it's reasonable for leadership to flexible in that moment, especially in the context of a holiday weekend where people may be with their families and usually have more time to review an auction than they did in this case.

But again, seems silly for OP to come here and have a melt down over this technicality that may not have actually had a negative impact on him since he likely would have just won the 2nd auction. At the very least wait and see if the result you're worried about (i.e., losing the bid on the scales) actually occurs before coming and ripping everyone on a public forum.

[Reiwa]

reasonable people

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[Duik]

In a world full of cucks none of them believe they are the cuck.
Pretty simple.

[WarpathEQ]

In a world full of cucks none of them believe they are the cuck.
Pretty simple.

This thread reminded me of the story of Icarus so I looked it up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus#:~:text=In%20Greek%20mythology%2C%20Icarus% 20(%2F,of%20the%20labyrinth%20of%20Crete.

Now I no longer care about the story of Icarus, I'm much more fascinated by his father Daedalus who's story is intertwinded with the origin story of cuckoldry. Did you know the original Bull was actually a bull? and that it was cuckoldry that birthed the Minotaur? I can't believe this was lost for 25 years in the EQ lore.

[Ekco]

In a world full of cucks none of them believe they are the cuck.
Pretty simple.

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[Ekco]

This thread reminded me of the story of Icarus so I looked it up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus#:~:text=In%20Greek%20mythology%2C%20Icarus% 20(%2F,of%20the%20labyrinth%20of%20Crete.

Now I no longer care about the story of Icarus, I'm much more fascinated by his father Daedalus who's story is intertwinded with the origin story of cuckoldry. Did you know the original Bull was actually a bull? and that it was cuckoldry that birthed the Minotaur? I can't believe this was lost for 25 years in the EQ lore.

wait, so who was fucking a bull in steamfont then?

[Praxcthius]

2 things all sketch in this. 1. This guild taxes you. 2. You can sell dkp for plat. When I look at that all I see is “ hi nothing to see here we don’t rmt”

Best guilds reward participation. Encourages more which eventually earns more rewards.

[cd288]

2 things all sketch in this. 1. This guild taxes you. 2. You can sell dkp for plat. When I look at that all I see is “ hi nothing to see here we don’t rmt”

Best guilds reward participation. Encourages more which eventually earns more rewards.

Hmm, you know it's a fair point on it's face, but I'm not sure an RMT scheme would work for this. While you could definitely fudge guild records and be like "see, the plat person A got was for DKP they transferred to Person B" in practice Person A would've needed to be a member of Lineage during that time and have accumulated DKP. So there's no real viable way to make this work since it's not like all the people trying to buy plat from you are going to be longer term Lineage members.

[WarpathEQ]

2 things all sketch in this. 1. This guild taxes you. 2. You can sell dkp for plat. When I look at that all I see is “ hi nothing to see here we don’t rmt”

Best guilds reward participation. Encourages more which eventually earns more rewards.

Interesting take.

Would love to hear your thoughts on taxation versus inflation and how it impacts economic purchasing power of normal citizens, your thoughts on dictatorships selling natural resources while barring their citizens from engaging in for profit economies, and your thoughts on actual ownership versus gaining access to assets via debt.

[shovelquest]

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lol like a bible.

[Duik]

Joseph was the original cuck.
Mary was the original ho.
Jesus the original bastard.

Good times.
Good clean fun was had by all!

[Ruien]

Just to be clear:

1. It seems like OP is still correct based on the written rules. If the rules are wrong, you honor them and then fix them for the next time.

2. The way you deal with last-minute sleeper bids is to not close the auction until some fixed time after the last bid. It is not to close auctions randomly.

3. The whole concept of the discord auction closing because of a quake sounds terrible. The controversy was self-inflicted by the people who made such a rule in the first place.

[shovelquest]

Joseph was the original cuck.
Mary was the original ho.
Jesus the original bastard.

Good times.
Good clean fun was had by all!

Best religion is the one that at it's inception is an act of forgiveness.

What a perfect book.

Don't fight me. It's rude and pointless and nobody wants to hear it, Duik.

[Trexller]

Don't fight me. It's rude and pointless and nobody wants to hear it, Duik.

we can offer our Christian sympathies, after all he does have to wake up in Australia each day

their flag has another country's flag on it lol

[Reiwa]

wait, so who was fucking a bull in steamfont then?

Probably Zeus in the form of an auroch. Real bad hombres those horny devils.

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[cd288]

we can offer our Christian sympathies, after all he does have to wake up in Australia each day

their flag has another country's flag on it lol

Have you ever been to Australia? I was there a year ago, it's awesome

[shovelquest]

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[Ekco]

Have you ever been to Australia? I was there a year ago, it's awesome

so is Disneyland or Vegas, wouldn't wanna fucking live there though lol.

[Ekco]

also, it might the shit part of OZ. i remember a player on this server talking about their house being underground because its gets to 145 degrees in the summer or some crazy shit.

[shovelquest]

Have you ever been to Australia?

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[shovelquest]

ah shoot I wanted this one. This is basically australia.

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[shovelquest]

daammit not that one this one!

Ill let myself out.

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[bcbrown]

also, it might the shit part of OZ. i remember a player on this server talking about their house being underground because its gets to 145 degrees in the summer or some crazy shit.

In Death Valley in the summer the water pipes get so hot that park staff turn off their hot water heaters and use them instead to let the water cool down. So the hot water tap becomes the tepid water tap and the cold water tap becomes the hot water tap.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Anyone who gives away all their stuff including their characters was probably looking for a way out already. Sucks I wasn’t logged on, coulda maybe gotten some free shit

If this results in some kind of major positive RL change, it might just end up being one of the better things to happen to you in a while. Sometimes what’s as important as what happens to us is the label we slap on it and how we file it away

[red_demonman]

White scales causing drama, what a surprise.
Using them to farm spawned trak for a singular BP each time seems kind of dumb when you are likely to just get a singular 10-20k item.
That said doesn't matter what you wanted it for. Guilds create rules and even when they support some greedy stupidity then you still follow them. Just do what normal guilds do to avoid drama, take the L, award the loot per the rules, and update your rules afterward.

Anyways this is gonna be a gratz Bladefrenzy.

[wagorf]

sounds like a shady guild with shady leadership making shady decisions to overthrow its own rules with shady reasoning

[WarpathEQ]

sounds like a shady guild with shady leadership making shady decisions to overthrow its own rules with shady reasoning

^ someone been training their AI bot on the shady goblin wiki page :D

[cd288]

so is Disneyland or Vegas, wouldn't wanna fucking live there though lol.

I'd live in Sydney in a second. It's great

[Ekco]

I'd live in Sydney in a second. It's great

yeah, but the "fly over states" for lack of a better word there, are literally straight from the road warrior movie / Fallout video game, i know most live in Perth/Sydney, i forget where their rednecks reside but they give the southern US states a run for our money in terms of motorsports and other things

the p99 player i was referencing basically lived on fucking mars going off the discord convos

[cd288]

Oh yeah for sure

[shovelquest]

Australia:

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[usmcjdking]

Based on the original post alone, you could strongly convince me the Second Amendment is a God-given, inalienable right in order to protect the mental fucking fragility of grown ass men being unable to deal with their emotions.

My god. I'm so happy I grew up poor with the ever so-frequent alcoholic rage beatings so as never to have to encounter this absolutely pathetic issue.

[Ekco]

thank you for your service

[Trexller]

Based on the original post alone, you could strongly convince me the Second Amendment is a God-given, inalienable right in order to protect the mental fucking fragility of grown ass men being unable to deal with their emotions.

My god. I'm so happy I grew up poor with the ever so-frequent alcoholic rage beatings so as never to have to encounter this absolutely pathetic issue.

Recondojoe, that you?

[usmcjdking]

Recondojoe, that you?

Firstly, I have no idea who she is.

Secondly, I don't parade around like some classless POG with no sense prancing around with Ranger tabs on my hat because I survived Ranger school 2-93.

[Trexller]

Firstly, I have no idea who she is.

Secondly, I don't parade around like some classless POG with no sense prancing around with Ranger tabs on my hat because I survived Ranger school 2-93.

I think you are recondojoe

how does that sound like a female name?

Why bring up the rangers?

isn't the "tab" is affixed to the sleeve, not a hat...

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[usmcjdking]

I think you are recondojoe

how does that sound like a female name?



Never know these days, especially with that bunch.

Why bring up the rangers

On her profile.

isn't the "tab" is affixed to the sleeve, not a hat...

Terminal 4 year whose struggling with the wonderful combination of hypertension and diabeetus isn't wearing some BDUs out in the street. They are wearing an Army hat (VIETNAM or DESERT STORM, take your pick) with 80 different affixes on it, to include an online purchased Ranger tab. Because that's what POGs do.

[Ekco]

TIL what POG means, also my bot senses are tingling

good character.json writer with this one. i like your work.
https://i.imgur.com/d3RsKE6.jpeg

if real live boy, have fun fighting the robots my dude, they tend to actually fight back unlike destitute heroin farmers that have to stop everything their doing to pray 5 times a day lol.

[Trexller]

Never know these days, especially with that bunch.



On her profile.



Terminal 4 year whose struggling with the wonderful combination of hypertension and diabeetus isn't wearing some BDUs out in the street. They are wearing an Army hat (VIETNAM or DESERT STORM, take your pick) with 80 different affixes on it, to include an online purchased Ranger tab. Because that's what POGs do.

How goes the crypto mining in that old hardwood mansion?

It sure does read like recondojoe, bots usually have less misspelled words and better grammar.

I'm gonna need more scantily clad women pics, thankfully nowadays there is AI for that

[usmcjdking]

TIL what POG means, also my bot senses are tingling

good character.json writer with this one. i like your work.
https://i.imgur.com/d3RsKE6.jpeg

if real live boy, have fun fighting the robots my dude, they tend to actually fight back unlike destitute heroin farmers that have to stop everything their doing to pray 5 times a day lol.

There has never been a point in time where anyone, with any modicum of intelligence of warfare, has ever looked to Russian doctrine or their war machina for any reason other than to sob at the utter waste of human life squared (as war already is a waste of human life), or laugh.

[Trexller]

There has never been a point in time where anyone, with any modicum of intelligence of warfare, has ever looked to Russian doctrine or their war machina for any reason other than to sob at the utter waste of human life squared (as war already is a waste of human life), or laugh.

but destitute heroin farmers live in afghanistan, not russia

also, while they don't view human life the same as the west, russia has led the world in air defense systems for quite awhile

The F-117 stealth fighter was shot down by a soviet S-125 Neva/Pechora

[Ekco]

Russian thought has a lot of offer humanity, from the Tsar years to the horrors of Communism and it's after effects birthed some of the greatest minds of the 19th and 20th century

and their near incapability with western views is a feature not a bug which led to some hilarious cultural moments like when they almost started ww3 because we said a nuclear exchange was unwinnable, so they figured if they did a first, small strike we wouldn't counter and would immediately negotiate more favorable NATO terms for them.

[Trexller]

and their near incapability with western views is a feature not a bug which led to some hilarious cultural moments like when they almost started ww3 because we said a nuclear exchange was unwinnable, so they figured if they did a first, small strike we wouldn't counter and would immediately negotiate more favorable NATO terms for them.

both sides felt that way during the cold war, its pretty much why everyone was so scared

it's tough to say who came up with the first strike doctrine first, but alot of US military planners also agreed that the only way to "not lose" a nuclear war, but survive more then the enemy, was to strike first at a time of your choosing.

JFK pissed off alot of them when he refused the idea, among the laundry list of ways JFK pissed off the military

They still shouldn't have taken him out tho, that was a card that would have worked better had it been played later on

[shovelquest]

There has never been a point in time where anyone, with any modicum of intelligence of warfare, has ever looked to Russian doctrine or their war machina for any reason other than to sob at the utter waste of human life squared (as war already is a waste of human life), or laugh.

laugh:

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[usmcjdking]

but destitute heroin farmers live in afghanistan, not russia


Ahhh, you're right.

Let me fix that. I meant to say destitute heroin abusers.

[Reiwa]

White scales causing drama, what a surprise.
Using them to farm spawned trak for a singular BP each time seems kind of dumb when you are likely to just get a singular 10-20k item.
That said doesn't matter what you wanted it for. Guilds create rules and even when they support some greedy stupidity then you still follow them. Just do what normal guilds do to avoid drama, take the L, award the loot per the rules, and update your rules afterward.

Anyways this is gonna be a gratz Bladefrenzy.

GMs won't touch this but players can make their own assessment of Lineage's leadership.

[Ekco]

whatever do you mean Rreiwa

anyway.

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that's gonna be a grats agent smith on that one.

[Reiwa]

whatever do you mean Rreiwa

anyway.

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that's gonna be a grats agent smith on that one.

Oh I'm just trying to cause problems for strangers. 😈

[Salaryman]

whatever do you mean Rreiwa

anyway.

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that's gonna be a grats agent smith on that one.

[Duik]

I think about the flag of my country as often as you think of honesty and integrity.

[Old_PVP]

Anyways this is gonna be a gratz Bladefrenzy.

[Kohedron]

Jesus, you guys are still bickering about pixels 40 years later? Pretty sad but ok

[shovelquest]

Ahhh, you're right.

Let me fix that. I meant to say destitute heroin abusers.

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USA

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[Trexller]

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USA

but they hate us for our freedoms...

...right?

George W. Bush said they hate us for our freedoms

[Ekco]

Nork tier propaganda

the kids in Russia literally inject a drug called Krokadil that has battery acid in it and makes your skin fall off.

drug addicts are drug addicts anywhere on the planet.

our approach to drug addiction is way worse though i admit, shouldn't even use Narcan on these zombies and i assume Russia shipped all the drug addicts to Ukraine by now so, problem solved.

[Ekco]

but they hate us for our freedoms...

...right?

George W. Bush said they hate us for our freedoms

he didn't finish the sentence it was freedoms for the CIA and shape their governments

remember when Dubya called it a Crusade and everyone got mad like this wasn't a religious war, good times.

[Trexller]

he didn't finish the sentence it was freedoms for the CIA and shape their governments

remember when Dubya called it a Crusade and everyone got mad like this wasn't a religious war, good times.

man the more I learn and as time goes on, the more I see that there was zero difference between the bush and obama administrations other then gay rights agendas

These people used race and identity politics to masquerade as different parties, but once in office they played the exact same game

[Ekco]

most people forget Obama was anti gay marriage and Biden until he literally did a gaft during a interview about it so the party had to pivot in support because Obama being like, Joe..Joe has Dementia, it's uh....something we gotta deal with.

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literally takes these idiots 3 decades and counting and still haven't figured out the party threw them the fuck overboard during the fucking Clinton administration

[shovelquest]

Nork tier propaganda .

more like what you think is pentagon propaganda.

[Ekco]

and i'm not anti gay marriage, they put in the work, tons of sitcoms to change people's minds and they did it slowly

then they just went fucking insane trying to pass as much culture war shit as possible, and now we're here.

now you lose it all, hope you're happy.

[shovelquest]

the kids in Russia literally inject a drug called Krokadil

The kids, you know, all the kids are doing that, I know this because I learned it on an american webpage.

[Ekco]

more like what you think is pentagon propaganda.

the average american thinking the Russians don't want revenge for all the terrible shit we did to them is literally the dumbest fucking thing ever.

they aren't are friends, our foreign policy with them should be way different and less retarded but never get it twisted, this is a zero sum game and they want to destroy us, not the political party you disagree with, "us"

same with China

[Ekco]

The kids, you know, all the kids are doing that, I know this because I learned it on an american webpage.

>tucker carlson show'd me their grocery store and subway is clean
>i've been lied to me entire lie

literally some reverse Jane Fonda Hanoi jane shit

[shovelquest]

>tucker carlson show'd me their grocery store and subway is clean
>i've been lied to me entire lie

literally some reverse Jane Fonda Hanoi jane shit

Watch a 1420 video. He's anti russian and they will prove you live in la la land.

You're totally consuming anti russian propaganda over here.

[shovelquest]

Look russian goverment is strict and they will send kids that do drugs to die in a war, but the result is a homeland that is nicer than yours.

[Ekco]

all the leftists are pro China and half the MAGA retards are Pro Putin

Real Americans know.
https://media.tenor.com/afLtZ0UsA2IAAAAM/red-dawn-wolverines.gif

[shovelquest]

Hey im all for a bunch of dumb bear men being xenaphobic, but that's not america either.

[Ekco]

propaganda is how you explain shit to literal retards, idk if you've met the average person but propaganda is good sometimes.

try arguing with basic game theory about a planet with limited resources and nation states pitted against one another

you're literally as naive as the peace love, dope college kids but from the other end of the know nothing spectrum.

[Trexller]

they aren't are friends, our foreign policy with them should be way different and less retarded but never get it twisted, this is a zero sum game and they want to destroy us, not the political party you disagree with, "us"

This was pretty good, it's nutso to hear what the US/USAID has been doing in Hungary, and this is just one country

OijHhAF3x_o

[Trexller]

Hey im all for a bunch of dumb bear men being xenaphobic, but that's not america either.

America as a concept worked alot better when those dudes were in charge

[Ekco]

wonder if they will just nuke the thread again or we'll get vacations this time.

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[shovelquest]

you're literally as naive as the peace love, dope college kids but from the other end of the know nothing spectrum.

Americans never had a russian awakening. Our brainwashing and racism is consistant with them from 1950 to now.

It's just American opinion of russia is that they are all trash streamers and beat each other up over anything and do crocodile drugs.

That's about as true as if I said every American was high on fentanyl and every street was like Pittsburg.

[Trexller]

wonder if they will just nuke the thread again or we'll get vacations this time.

https://c.tenor.com/L1nGl0WbPjsAAAAC/tenor.gif

we're probably good, this is RnF

[Reiwa]

he didn't finish the sentence it was freedoms for the CIA and shape their governments

remember when Dubya called it a Crusade and everyone got mad like this wasn't a religious war, good times.

You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade (https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/general-eisenhowers-order-of-the-day)

[usmcjdking]

This thread is wild.

Manchild opens it up and it's ending with commentary on international politics/relations/standards of living from a whole slew of people whom are dying from diabetes and other completely preventable diseases.

This is the quality entertainment I miss about the internet. God bless p99.

[shovelquest]

This thread is wild.


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[Duik]

We are still talking about "Corruption at the top" just not as it pertains to Lineage.

My take aways are Lineage is exactly like other guilds. They kill shit, try to divvy up the spoils so it doesnt look like its unfair.
Some like it. Some dont. Nothing to see here.

Russia has clean subways and cheap groceries. No mention of exchange rates so its like comparing apples to datsun cogs.
Clearly better though cuz reasons.

US and A bad cuz subways and groceries are expensive. (At least this seems to be true), same here. My buying power is hobbled to fuck compared to the early 2000s.
Drugies make great warriors, that would explain why PoohTin is handed his arse on a weekly basis.
Two week "Special Operation" indeed!

I'm looking forward to a very conservative Rugby Union Grand Final this year as well.
Good times.

[shovelquest]

No mention of exchange rates.

Dollar goes a long way pretty much everywhere https://www.x-rates.com/table/?from=USD&amount=1

And some of us (i know socialists just wont agree) think there is more to life than a strong global economy.

[Reiwa]

Dollar goes a long way pretty much everywhere https://www.x-rates.com/table/?from=USD&amount=1

And some of us (i know socialists just wont agree) think there is more to life than a strong global economy.

I've never understood those charts.

Do I want the dollar to be worth more or less than a dollar if I'm interesting in banging foreign slaves?

[Duik]

So you are saying US$2 to an American is worth the same (or more) to a Russian citizen?
In both earning and spending?

On another note.
BcoN2bdACGA

This is exciting. Ive been awaiting Thorium reactors to become a thing since 2009.
Pity im not clever enuf to add to the endeavours. But I did see the advantages.
Recycles fuel. Can use weapons grade plutonium as fuel converting it into energy AND (weapon) inert waste. Still wate but less atomic weapon fuel.
A good thing, yes?

Miniature atomic powerplants could become a thing!

[shovelquest]

So you are saying US$2 to an American is worth the same (or more) to a Russian citizen?
In both earning and spending?

On another note.
BcoN2bdACGA

This is exciting. Ive been awaiting Thorium reactors to become a thing since 2009.
Pity im not clever enuf to add to the endeavours. But I did see the advantages.
Recycles fuel. Can use weapons grade plutonium as fuel converting it into energy AND (weapon) inert waste. Still wate but less atomic weapon fuel.
A good thing, yes?

Miniature atomic powerplants could become a thing!

A human being has exactly 0$ monetary value, you god damn commie.

[shovelquest]

cool other note though duik, I like this part:

https://youtu.be/BcoN2bdACGA?t=191

"why did we stop doing this in the 60s??"

Answer:

"BOO ELON BOO"

https://i.imgur.com/Vji9jgH.png

[Ekco]

anyone that thinks the goal is to strengthen the dollar, doesn't get it

U.S. companies that export or rely on global markets for the bulk of their sales are financially hurt when the dollar strengthens.

it's same logic behind if you lower taxes enough you actually increase tax revenue from the extra generated business activity, and it's 100% the plan to weaken the dollar

pretty sure orange emperor has even spoken about this before, considering he actually knows that shit with having to deal with it with his own businesses

[Ekco]

you can't bring back manufacturing and also fuck yourself on the export math side, we're gonna do the same shit we always scream at China about with their currency manipulation

watching the drool cups on both sides argue about it is gonna be some popcorn.gif shit of the highest magnitude

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

As someone without diabetus or an alcohol addiction, I can say I did hear a rumor, and it may just be a rumor, that the USSR’s “Stoli” brand Russian vodka had a cap that had to be broken to be removed

Meaning it couldn’t be re-capped, encouraging the user to finish the bottle. And that alcoholism was in a sense encouraged by the USSR

[Trexller]

As someone without diabetus or an alcohol addiction, I can say I did hear a rumor, and it may just be a rumor, that the USSR’s “Stoli” brand Russian vodka had a cap that had to be broken to be removed

Meaning it couldn’t be re-capped, encouraging the user to finish the bottle. And that alcoholism was in a sense encouraged by the USSR

oh yeah alcohol has always been a major source of russian state revenue as well as a tool for social control

drunk people can't revolt, but they also can't work too well

[Ciderpress]

counterpoint: booze makes people (soldiers) take bold risks and sometimes taking bold risks is the decisive factor in a battle or in a war

[Ekco]

booze and meth, making super soldiers since 1939

[loramin]

There's literally a wiki page on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_in_Russia.

TLDR; The Russian government hasn't always been pro-alcohol. Alcoholism has been a problem in Russian culture for a long time, and several governments (including the Bolsheviks ... at least initially) took steps to combat it.

But also ... both Ivan the Terrible and Stalin (as well as less famous Russian governments) created government monopolies on alcohol, and then made huge amounts of money off them (we're talking like 1/3 of the country's entire budget!)

When your entire base of power depends on the money coming from alcohol, you're pro-alcoholism ... even if you're not really pro-alcoholism.

[Ekco]

but those subways sure all clean though

[shovelquest]

They payed the workers in giza with beer to make pyramids.

[Ekco]

>Food historian recreates ancient Egyptian BEER using a 5,000-year-old recipe from the Pharaohs

>Ms Marks explained that the Ancient Egyptians produced and consumed vast quantities of beer.

>She said: 'Beer was so essential it was treated principally as a type of food.

>'It was consumed daily and in great quantities at religious festivals and celebrations.

>'Beer was an essential for labourers, like those who built the pyramids of Giza, who were provided with a daily ration of more than 10 pints

that works out to 40 dollars today to work on the Pyramids., i think that's less than the meme about a days wage in silver, iirc that works out to way above min wage today

[Ekco]

anyone not watching NASCAR right now is a communist btw

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/X4ScATR.jpeg

[Trexller]

anyone not watching NASCAR right now is a communist btw

Sorry, that's alot more "left" turns then I am comfortable with

Like a UPS driver, I prefer "right" turns

[Ekco]

it's so so much more than that. it's the best Drama on tv + engineering

https://racing-forums.com/attachments/meme-jpg.14783/

Honda is expected to join NASCAR after the 2025 season.

next year is gonna be so fucking good.

[Ekco]

utAKQyf5_fQ

[Trexller]

Yeah crashes are always really cool

I'll never grow out of that

[Lostfaction]

WTS server first white dragon scale cloak
Godsend the Sorcerer <Dial-a-Port>

[Ekco]

WTS server first white dragon scale cloak
Godsend the Sorcerer <Dial-a-Port>

50k

[Ekco]

if you aren't watching the Sunday race, you're a double communist and probably a https://wiki.project1999.com/Fay_Gate

https://i.imgur.com/TX1ZMPf.png

[Irishbrain]

Lineage is a terrible guild that blames it members. Hope the leaders get perma banned from p99.

[michelada]

This guy still around? I could use some druid shoulders, boots, legs, arms, gloves, mask, earrings