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NopeNopeNopeNope
01-31-2025, 02:43 PM
If ya’ll watch the vid I posted from Hoover, who’s very qualified and experienced when it comes to debriefing pilot tragedies, about the crash, he summarizes it at the end as an error made by the Blackhawk helicopter pilot
Who also isn’t trans, despite a lie being spread around Twatter that they were
NopeNopeNopeNope
01-31-2025, 02:50 PM
^
The Blackhawk helicopter pilot was a woman trainee with 500 hours flying the helicopter
Her trainer was a male flight instructor with 1000 hours flying helicopters, from what I’ve heard
The fault should, and likely will, land mostly on the Blackhawk helicopter flight instructor. Trainees are supposed to make mistakes. Instructors are supposed to keep those mistakes from killing people
Ciderpress
01-31-2025, 02:54 PM
Yeah my feeling is it's definitely on the helicopter crew mostly. Though planes make last minute ditches all the time if the wind is a little too strong, 10 feet above the ground right before touchdown, so they aren't completely off the hook either.
The plane was just doing what every other plane ever has done landing there, except avoiding the giant helicopter.
I think I get why these investigations take so long now.
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 03:03 PM
^
The Blackhawk helicopter pilot was a woman trainee with 500 hours flying the helicopter
Her trainer was a male flight instructor with 1000 hours flying helicopters, from what I’ve heard
The fault should, and likely will, land mostly on the Blackhawk helicopter flight instructor. Trainees are supposed to make mistakes. Instructors are supposed to keep those mistakes from killing people
I think it was an accident... but if it turns out the tower was understaffed, then that's the reason this happened.
TBH I would prefer these flight controllers can assure me that they can prevent two planes from colliding at an airport or I wont ever fuckn fly again.
I think it could be something on the military's side, because we've had 4 blackhawk crashes in the last 4 years, and 2 in the last 20 before that.
Ciderpress
01-31-2025, 03:12 PM
There are generally way more helicopter crashes than plane crashes because they are fundamentally different aircraft- you trade off safety for maneuverability in a helicopter, which is why they generally have dedicated ATC for each, and in this case it sounds like one guy was splitting duty in that regard.
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 03:41 PM
Sure but there have been 4 blackhawk crashes since 2020, and 2 in the 20 years before that.
Either they all hit the warranty or we're doing something different IMO.
Reiwa
01-31-2025, 04:18 PM
Sure but there have been 4 blackhawk crashes since 2020, and 2 in the 20 years before that.
Either they all hit the warranty or we're doing something different IMO.
The Japanese sounding one happened in Japan.
it's usually the Chinooks, feel like ive seen 20 different news stories about them going down in training accidents and other shit since Iraq/Afghanistan days
i live near a Bell plant so every once n awhile you'll see a couple V-280 flying around, and all the predecessors before it, those things are dope as fuck
https://www.twz.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/V280-Valor.jpg
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 04:38 PM
The Japanese sounding one happened in Japan.
Well that just shows that our military had standards others didnt, and the current one doesn't either.
What changed?
What's changed in the last idk, 12 years, 8, 4?
What major military changes have we made in that timeframe that we can say had no effect whatsoever, because it turns out it's DEI?
Reiwa
01-31-2025, 04:46 PM
Well that just shows that our military had standards others didnt, and the current one doesn't either.
What changed?
What's changed in the last idk, 12 years, 8, 4?
What major military changes have we made in that timeframe that we can say had no effect whatsoever, because it turns out it's DEI?
The ROC one happened in the ROC.
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 04:57 PM
Near collision at DCA the day before?
The airliner brickyard 4514 receives notification from their instruments about an impending collision. The pilot says they had an "RA" and are going to "go around" (abort landing, go around and try again).
"If the system diagnoses a risk of impending collision, it issues a resolution advisory (RA) to the flight crew, which directs the pilots how best to regulate or adjust their vertical rate so as to avoid a collision."
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Botten
01-31-2025, 06:45 PM
The Orange man voters without investigation lap up DEI explanation like the cult they are in.....
but on to the irony...
The Orange man started the "D.E.I." Program he is attacking.
The Orange man called out the FAA at prioritizing hiring intellectually disabled individuals during his initial blame conference.
Well, in 2019, it was the Orange Man's administration actually started the program; the one that he attacked at the press conference.
The FAA provides aviation careers to people with disabilities. -From Thursday April 11, 2019 (https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-provides-aviation-careers-people-disabilities), the FAA announced a pilot program to help prepare people with disabilities for careers in TRAFFIC OPERATIONS.
"A key focus for the FAA's Office of Civil Rights is to identify specific operations for people with targeted disabilities, empower them and facilitate their entry into a MORE DIVERSE and INCLUSIVE WORKSPACE WORKFORCE."
This... THIS is from the Orange man's administration in 2019.
In fact, this is the same policy he tried to attack on stage. There is even a clause left over in the documentation including hiring on more individuals of minority!
Federal workers placed on leave by Trump's DEI order are angry and fearful of what lies ahead. (https://www.yahoo.com/news/federal-workers-placed-leave-trumps-005456825.html)
BUT THE... DEI employees were THERE due to HIS actions in his last term!!!!
Worse, there was only one individual doing the job of two.
Monitoring both planes and helicopters.
AND Now... the orange man is going after the military soldiers too from his last Truth social post.
Shame... Shame on him and shame on his voters.
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 07:02 PM
The Orange man voters
The Orange man
The Orange man
Orange Man's administration
the Orange man
the orange man
Shame... Shame on him and shame on his voters.
https://i.imgur.com/ElUT7sh.png
Trexller
01-31-2025, 07:03 PM
the FAA and ATC didn't fuck it up
the army helo pilot did
in all your reading, you don't realize this?
https://64.media.tumblr.com/0c9b4a22edd8ffaf017e2d0b8b7265ba/tumblr_oik2d4zu9T1qa4l1ko1_540.gif
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 07:03 PM
The Orange man voters without investigation lap up DEI explanation like the cult they are in.....
That's because we have common sense. :o
Botten
01-31-2025, 07:11 PM
That's because we have common sense. :o
Get better @
https://cdn-0001.qstv.on.epicgames.com/AHIHTagmwOthTmoXdF/image/landscape_comp.jpeg
Trexller
01-31-2025, 07:15 PM
Get better @
https://i.imgur.com/pjwu50b.jpeg
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 07:23 PM
yOuRe InA cuLT!
https://i.imgur.com/lyceDGq.png
You ever feel like it might be a coincidence that the clear, immediate answer broadcasted to your withered brains just happens to be DEI?
Do you ever think for yourselves?
Trexller
01-31-2025, 07:35 PM
You ever feel like it might be a coincidence that the clear, immediate answer broadcasted to your withered brains just happens to be DEI?
DEI is funny
it's also illegal, check with the supreme court or the 1964 civil rights act
but for anyone paying attention, its 1000% the helicopter pilots fault
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 07:43 PM
You ever feel like it might be a coincidence that the clear, immediate answer broadcasted to your withered brains just happens to be DEI?
Do you ever think for yourselves?
DEI to me means, the priorities have changed and to not something that actually is conducive to a good work environment, nor is there any study that can really quantify that it is, if its so rare that we need federal goverment programs to make it happen.
Saying no to DEI to you means "DEATH TO ANYONE WHO IS NOT GLOWING WHITE DEATH TO THE WORLD BUILD A PORTAL TO HELL!"
you guys really fucked up my china thread, you know that?
Trexller
01-31-2025, 07:50 PM
DEI
The Los Angeles Lakers refused to hire me as a starting point guard.
Obviously the LA Lakers are racist and bigoted
There is no other possible explanation as to why I can't be a starting point guard.
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 07:50 PM
you guys really fucked up my china thread, you know that?
China did.
He who controls the tiktok controls the universe.
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 07:51 PM
The Los Angeles Lakers refused to hire me as a starting point guard.
There should really be DEI in sports and anyone who thinks there should be at work that dont agree, they is a lying piece of shit hypocrite.
Trexller
01-31-2025, 07:51 PM
you guys really fucked up my china thread, you know that?
black hawk pilots may have been wearing chinese made night vision goggles
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 07:53 PM
Actually the special olympics and the olympics should be combined into one and we should offer handicaps to scores like golf.
That is the only fair thing to do. Anything else is nazi fascism eugenics.
black hawk pilots may have been wearing chinese made night vision goggles
https://media.tenor.com/tHyY447ee7QAAAAM/dazed-and-confused-matthew-mc-conaughey.gif
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 08:03 PM
It's china related if you consider DEI is literally communism.
Trexller
01-31-2025, 08:12 PM
It's china related if you consider DEI is literally communism.
it's amazing to me how so few people understand the difference between equity and equality
equity sounds similar to equality, so it must be the same thing!
like if you ask people if we should fight back against women's suffrage most people will be like, absolutely yes! because they think suffrage means suffering
Botten
01-31-2025, 08:18 PM
List of a few benefits from DEI (Diversity Equity and Inclusion)
1. Therapy for Veterans
2. Mother's room (to pump breast milk for your child)
3. Paid caregiver leave
4. Paternity leave
5. Disabled Accessible places and spaces (elevators, wheel chair ramps, handicaps stalls, ergonomic setups
Reiwa
01-31-2025, 08:18 PM
DEI is funny
it's also illegal, check with the supreme court or the 1964 civil rights act
but for anyone paying attention, its 1000% the helicopter pilots fault
Disability is a civil rights protection. DEI isn't always about race.
Botten
01-31-2025, 08:27 PM
It isn’t humane. And the Orange Supporting voters know this.
https://i.imgur.com/GnaEMFr.jpeg
Reiwa
01-31-2025, 08:28 PM
It isn’t humane. And the Orange Supporting voters know this.
https://i.imgur.com/GnaEMFr.jpeg
Flores
of all the things that didn't happen, i'm pretty sure that letter didn't happen the most.
https://i.imgur.com/pbo6YgW.png
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Trexller
01-31-2025, 08:49 PM
In other news: Trump Cures Cancer!
Liberals hold tearful vigil over lost pharmaceutical profits, vow to discover more aggressive, uncurable cancer
The Los Angeles Lakers refused to hire me as a starting point guard.
Obviously the LA Lakers are racist and bigoted
There is no other possible explanation as to why I can't be a starting point guard.
I don't support DEI lol. I'm glad it is being dismantled. It was an abject failure that saw the equivalent of political komissars conducting ideological purity tests in American institutions.
That doesn't make it a reasonable scapegoat for a disaster that likely stemmed from some other systemic dysfunction, or combinations of dysfunctions. You know it's a bad sign when the country's leadership, instead of earnestly looking at what may be wrong, is screaming "DEI', which is tantamount to this:
https://i.imgur.com/nlmX768.jpeg
If it's DEI, they couldn't possibly be culpable, and they know there is a little vision in the mind of every Trump supporter of some hoodlum who was scooped off the street and stuck in a helicopter seat. By appealing to that, they are appealing to nothing other than ideological unity and purity in the face of complicated problems. In short, very similar mechanisms to DEI. Loyalty over competence. Messaging over merit.
Disability is a civil rights protection. DEI isn't always about race.
It should always be about merit. Except, you know, when you're competing against an H1B visa, a veteran, or the Chinese worker for your job in the global economy.
Although I forget where you folk land on veterans these days.
Trexller
01-31-2025, 08:56 PM
If it's DEI, they couldn't possibly be culpable, and they know there is a little vision in the mind of every Trump supporter of some hoodlum who was scooped off the street and stuck in a helicopter seat. By appealing to that, they are appealing to nothing other than ideological unity and purity in the face of complicated problems. In short, very similar mechanisms to DEI. Loyalty over competence. Messaging over merit.
ATC had staffing problems for sure, whatever the cause seems irrelevent tho unless we're poking fun at liberal agendas, in which case it's a comedy gold mine
it's definitely the fault of the black hawk pilot, zero fault on the airplane, and probably little to no fault on behalf of ATC
ATC comms clearly have the helo pilot saying I got this, im in control, i understand the situation etc
it's all ATC jargon much better explained by a real pilot, like this guy:
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I forget where you folk land on veterans these days.
the fact neither party will let Vets take MDMA therapy due to being completely captured by big pharma is one of the saddest things ever.
the shit works, you're just not suppose to do it every weekend
Trexller
01-31-2025, 09:04 PM
the fact neither party will let Vets take MDMA therapy due to being completely captured by big pharma is one of the saddest things ever.
the shit works, you're just not suppose to do it every weekend
man you gotta look into ibogaine treatment for ptsd, addiction, depression
it's a big deal in the SF veteran community, and still illegal in the USA
alot of men who got their mind and soul destroyed in combat and been a mess for years get 1 treatment and then they got their head on straight
Trexller
01-31-2025, 09:07 PM
Although I forget where you folk land on veterans these days.
Why don't veterans get an entire month of observation and remembrance?
Reiwa
01-31-2025, 09:22 PM
It should always be about merit. Except, you know, when you're competing against an H1B visa, a veteran, or the Chinese worker for your job in the global economy.
Although I forget where you folk land on veterans these days.
Aw, he thinks we're people. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3711428&postcount=215)
man you gotta look into ibogaine treatment for ptsd, addiction, depression
it's a big deal in the SF veteran community, and still illegal in the USA
alot of men who got their mind and soul destroyed in combat and been a mess for years get 1 treatment and then they got their head on straight
The thing about Ibogaine is there's a good chance for a transformational cure, and a modest chance for death, like old school alchemy. The medical establishment doesn't look very kindly on those odds, even if it wasn't cutting into the income from antidepressants and other shoddy-but-profitable interventions.
The sad reality is this: people see things like microsurgery, heart transplants, ECMO, mRNA vaccines, AIDS cures, and all other sorts of medical miracles and expect that when they go into the doctor complaining of things like depression, addiction, or PTSD, they are getting interventions of equivalent complexity and efficacy. In reality, they are getting leeches and reiki for their blood ghosts. Very few, if any, doctors will have an earnest conversation with their patient about the fact that we actually just don't have very many effective interventions for these problems. What we do have is barely distinguishable from placebo or natural healing over time. It's just, here's some pills, and on to the next one, knowing full well the patient probably already has preconceived expectations about what the doctor will be able to do for them, and will likely riot if those expectations aren't met.
Part of the blame lies with big pharma basically committing fraudulent science in getting these medications approved, part lies with the health insurance and medical ecosystem that treats doctors like assembly line workers and awards mediocrity, and part with the patients themselves being, generally, extremely poor evaluators of the efficacy of their own care. At times, the most effective intervention for these things is actually to not take pills, and instead to get your fat ass outside and do some interval sprints, high intensity exercise being the end-all-be-all gold standard for neuroplasticity and brain derived neurotrophic factor, but too many people would crucify their MD for telling them that and providing nothing else.
Why don't veterans get an entire month of observation and remembrance?
I don't know about you but I'd take something substantive like health care or hiring advantages over a month of lip service and 'thoughts and prayers'.
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 09:55 PM
It isn’t humane. And the Orange Supporting voters know this.
This kid is crying because freaks like you fill their heads with dellusional racist propaganda that yt people are nazis and are going to throw kids into prisons in guantanoma bay.
I swear I wish i wish i wish that was true but its not!!! I want to throw you in there so bad.
Trexller
01-31-2025, 10:22 PM
I don't know about you but I'd take something substantive like health care or hiring advantages over a month of lip service and 'thoughts and prayers'.
how do we fix everyone and their mother having their money tied up in the medical industrial complex
that's the biggest hurdle to change i can imagine, it's a big problem but it makes alot of money for alot of people
shovelquest
01-31-2025, 10:29 PM
I don't know about you but I'd take something substantive like health care or hiring advantages over a month of lip service and 'thoughts and prayers'.
We could have that, and all kinds of social programs in this country.
If we didn't invite literally everyone in the world to move over here and start getting them.
You get one or the other. Immigration, or social programs.
You don't get both.
Nowhere have you ever gotten both.
In fact usually where you get it there is a major reduction in total population.
Botten
02-01-2025, 12:22 AM
We could have that, and all kinds of social programs in this country.
If we didn't invite literally everyone in the world to move over here and start getting them.
You get one or the other. Immigration, or social programs.
You don't get both.
Nowhere have you ever gotten both.
In fact usually where you get it there is a major reduction in total population.
Such absolute nonsense.
:rolleyes:
This is America the country was built from immigration. This country is a melting pot of different cultures.
We did thrive because of our acceptance. Every country knows of the freedoms and opportunity in America.
America has had immigration and social programs since its conception. We are the richest nation in the world and its people insist on just making the insanely rich that much richer.
The right has it engraved in their heads that if they haven't worked for it then they don't deserve it. That it is socialism if we ever go back to the early 1940s, where the top marginal tax rate for the wealthiest Americans reached as high as 94%.
This nation's nationalism and military/local institutional family structure is sickening at times. Europe and may other countries quickly learned this is just a formula for those that love extremism.
The distain in America seems to be regulated to Latina American countries.
I just see this as no different from the distain for the Irish or Chinese early in America's history.
To much of a culture shock to those who didn't grow up with acceptance.
It is too bad.
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 12:30 AM
The right has it engraved in their heads that if they haven't worked for it then they don't deserve it. That it is socialism if we ever go back to the early 1940s, where the top marginal tax rate for the wealthiest Americans reached as high as 94%.
The Good Ol’ Days: When Tax Rates Were 90 Percent (https://mises.org/mises-wire/good-ol-days-when-tax-rates-were-90-percent)
Regardless, one should ask how much the rich were actually paying. It should be noteworthy that back in the 1950s, the government wasn’t actually collecting any more in tax revenue as a percentage of GDP. There’s something called Hauser’s Law, which basically states there is a maximum threshold on how much the government can tax out of its population. I think this “law” is no such thing. If the government really wanted to expropriate more, it could do so. But Hauser’s Law based on the fact that in pretty much every year since 1950, the government has collected between 17 to 20 percent of GDP in taxes. Here are the government tax receipts compared to the top marginal tax rate:
https://cdn.mises.org/styles/max_1600/s3/syrios2_0.png
Botten
02-01-2025, 12:39 AM
The Good Ol’ Days: When Tax Rates Were 90 Percent (https://mises.org/mises-wire/good-ol-days-when-tax-rates-were-90-percent)
The article presents a one-sided view without addressing potential counterarguments from those who support high marginal tax rates. Including these counterarguments and then refuting them would make the piece more balanced and persuasive.
Change tax deductions on passive investments losses on real estate then ;).
But what was probably the biggest lost deduction for wealthy individuals was the elimination of deductions on passive investment losses on real estate. Before 1986, wealthy individuals would often buy real estate with no hopes at all of it cash flowing. That wasn’t the point. The point was that real estate is depreciated every year in the eyes of the IRS. Even though in the long run, properties usually go up in value, the IRS assumes that every twenty-seven-and-a-half years a property’s value will depreciate to zero.
This “loss” can be written off. So, for example, say a man earning $100,000 a year buys a property worth $275,000. He rents out the property and breaks even on it. The tax code allows that person to write off $10,000 as a loss which he can count against his income for that year. So now he only has to pay taxes on $90,000. If he owned ten such properties, his income would be zero, at least according to the IRS.
That deduction is now gone for everyone but “active” real estate investors, or those who invest in real estate as a career.
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 12:53 AM
The article presents a one-sided view without addressing potential counterarguments from those who support high marginal tax rates. Including these counterarguments and then refuting them would make the piece more balanced and persuasive.
Did you try asking it to refute the historical facts?
It's ok for a piece of writing to have an opinion.
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 01:32 AM
https://i.imgur.com/ozpMz7q.png
https://i.imgflip.com/899m0o.jpg
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 02:36 AM
This is America the country was built from immigration.
No it wasn't. It was built by pioneers.
Then Immigrants were like, oh that looks like a nice place to move to.
And it sure as hell wasn't built by socialists.
Got it, so built by indian pioneers who swam over from Russia, got the crops and chihuahas all nice and domesticated, laid out the I-5 corridor, and then the Virginia Company was like "Oh that looks like a nice place to move to".
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 02:44 AM
America has had immigration and social programs since its conception.
Wrong again.
The first social program was after civil war (when the illuminati communist vampires took over america).
The second social program was for single mothers (classic communists attack the western christian family unit).
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 02:48 AM
the I-5 corridor
This is where we just can't ever agree. I see the people that work at the pencil factory as people that work at a pencil factory.,
You see them as writers of classical music, brilliant golden children of light, that all created the pencil out of thin air and they are all equal to the same glowing energy consumed as one sexual orgasmic combination of human will and joy and love.
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 03:05 AM
Donkey toothed lead head barbarians built America by bashing English peoples heads in... not taking a steamship here and building a freeway.
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when the illuminati communist vampires took over america).
Lost me right there.
Have fun wiff dis stuff.
See yas (from the same position) in 7-8 years.
And omg
(classic communists attack the western christian family unit)
Jesus was born to a different father and joseph was fine wiff it.
Classic christian family indeed!
News flash dumbarse. Fathers (and mothers for that matter) leave their kids. So we should leave them to their own devices? Not all men and women are prepared to take on other peoples children. Sometimes these single parents HAVE NO FUCKING CHOICE. You clearly have zero clue or empathy for situations ypu have personally never experienced.
For clarity, Im from a mummy and a daddy family. Classic christian family! But unlike you I could see my school mates or community and see
A: people die. Single parent family.
B: people are cuntz and leave.
C: the family unit breaks for other reasons.
Single parent families are still families ya dumbfuck. They happen. It may make you uncomfortable but deal with it.
Sure, some take advantage of it. Dont punish the ones who dont by removing (and judging them) it. Instead make better plans (and funding!!) to discover the bad ones.
Im under no illusion this will get through.
If you all had 13million mudering/drug dealing/criminal immigrants school shootings would not even register on your radar of shit that happens. No wait. That doesnt...
Family values indeed!
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 03:18 AM
Lost me right there.
Have fun wiff dis stuff.
See yas (from the same position) in 7-8 years.
Actual real vampires live among us and the spiderman movies are documentaries.
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 03:35 AM
For clarity, Im from a mummy and a daddy family. Classic christian family! But unlike you I could see my school mates or community and see
Thats the origin for every young western communist.
"I had privilage and assume that's the way the universe works yes we should give all these starving people what I had and I dont care if it takes from you I assume I will get what I need when i get older too oh no i became conservative when I got older because nobody is giving me shit"
thats the communist arch of every western lib ever
I didnt say i had privilage. I just said i was from a mummy and a daddy family. Classic christian (your bigoted term) family.
Edit bit here-
And by bigoted I mean you assume that non god fearing people (normal) cant exist without killing/raping/stealing and making bastards that turn into communist immigrants. God means zero to me and i dont need a threat of eternal damnation to do the right thing. That is the difference between me and people like you. --Edit ends
There is a clear difference here. I do not hate everyone who is not me. You seem to.
That is OK. Im not your dad. Thank fuck.
Keep being mean. It suits you.
Thats the origin for every young western communist.
"I had privilage and assume that's the way the universe works yes we should give all these starving people what I had and I dont care if it takes from you I assume I will get what I need when i get older too oh no i became conservative when I got older because nobody is giving me shit"
thats the communist arch of every western lib ever
"Oh Western civilization is so great, just the greatest ever, unassailable, even though we spent 1500 of the last 2000 years getting waffle-stomped by the Ottomans and other muslims, and will spend 1500 of the next 2000 years getting waffle-stomped by Chinamen. Also I hold Western civilization up on a pedestal but actively denigrate and vote against the very core Enlightenment philosophies that made it great"
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 03:56 AM
*he says on a computer.
*invented by a gay man killed by chuds
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 04:53 AM
and where do they allow gays again?
https://i.imgur.com/NML5SAU.png
and where do they allow gays again?
->
Also I hold Western civilization up on a pedestal but actively denigrate and vote against the very core Enlightenment philosophies that made it great"
Not for long if the chuds get their way
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 05:01 AM
Im not going to buy into your silly narrative about dictator on day one.
Yall had a but her emails ww3 meme in 2016 and damn near started ww3 in 2020!
(although maybe I agree and you're right and he's the antichrist crossing fingers!)
The greatest presidents, historically, have toed that line-- pushing boundaries, and bold political maneuvering. Lincoln acted far more like a dictator than Trump ever will. It's not the dictator tendencies I take issue with, it's the fact that he represents a movement in the United States that is tantamount to the business plot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot) in its ideology, goals, and practices. As we speak the federal government is being choked and dismantled, much of it probably for the the best, but the part that nobody is talking about is that we are probably 30 years overdue for some antritrust activity and now that will probably never happen again in our lifetime.
I had much more common cause with the right back when you guys were fiscal conservatives that believed in the free market, but now it's just a retarded attempt to give cartels and monopolies free reign.
$8 eggs are only the beginning (https://marcellus-us.com/story/the-true-extent-of-americas-food-monopolies-and-who-pays-the-price/)
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 06:09 AM
You know how like, the right says your side has pizza menu sex devil worship sacrifice parties?
That's like what I think of when the left says that the right are going to give the country to oligarch monopoly cartels.
I agree that we have to be vigilant about those, but look at your own link we've had democrat president for the majority of the last 20 years and let that happen.
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 12:42 PM
The greatest presidents, historically, have toed that line-- pushing boundaries, and bold political maneuvering. Lincoln acted far more like a dictator than Trump ever will. It's not the dictator tendencies I take issue with, it's the fact that he represents a movement in the United States that is tantamount to the business plot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot) in its ideology, goals, and practices. As we speak the federal government is being choked and dismantled, much of it probably for the the best, but the part that nobody is talking about is that we are probably 30 years overdue for some antritrust activity and now that will probably never happen again in our lifetime.
I had much more common cause with the right back when you guys were fiscal conservatives that believed in the free market, but now it's just a retarded attempt to give cartels and monopolies free reign.
$8 eggs are only the beginning (https://marcellus-us.com/story/the-true-extent-of-americas-food-monopolies-and-who-pays-the-price/)
The credibility of recruiting Butler, an FDR supporter and outspoken foe of using the military in Latin America to support American business to lead the coup speaks for itself.
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 12:43 PM
Lost me right there.
Have fun wiff dis stuff.
See yas (from the same position) in 7-8 years.
And omg
Jesus was born to a different father and joseph was fine wiff it.
Classic christian family indeed!
News flash dumbarse. Fathers (and mothers for that matter) leave their kids. So we should leave them to their own devices? Not all men and women are prepared to take on other peoples children. Sometimes these single parents HAVE NO FUCKING CHOICE. You clearly have zero clue or empathy for situations ypu have personally never experienced.
For clarity, Im from a mummy and a daddy family. Classic christian family! But unlike you I could see my school mates or community and see
A: people die. Single parent family.
B: people are cuntz and leave.
C: the family unit breaks for other reasons.
Single parent families are still families ya dumbfuck. They happen. It may make you uncomfortable but deal with it.
Sure, some take advantage of it. Dont punish the ones who dont by removing (and judging them) it. Instead make better plans (and funding!!) to discover the bad ones.
Im under no illusion this will get through.
If you all had 13million mudering/drug dealing/criminal immigrants school shootings would not even register on your radar of shit that happens. No wait. That doesnt...
Family values indeed!
https://i.imgur.com/IjtHO2q.png
NopeNopeNopeNope
02-01-2025, 04:29 PM
You know how like, the right says your side has pizza menu sex devil worship sacrifice parties?
That's like what I think of when the left says that the right are going to give the country to oligarch monopoly cartels.
I agree that we have to be vigilant about those, but look at your own link we've had democrat president for the majority of the last 20 years and let that happen.
B b but legalizing and regulating everything works in much smaller entirely different culture countries like Norway or whatevs
People will suddenly stop using and go to rehab if it isn’t forced. They just need the magic phrase from a counselor. Like I saw in the movies
NopeNopeNopeNope
02-01-2025, 04:33 PM
^
Or I guess to keep up with the times, people will tots elect to have an implant that blocks opioid receptors for the next few years put in surgically. And totally not dig it out themselves next time they want to get high
Don’t force it, keep it voluntary, and people will show up in droves to commit to sobriety for years. It will be magical, like in the movies
Again wiff dat A.I Reiwa. Also "praying" to invoke anything is like believing that I can cast Wolf Form and actually turn into a wolf. Delusional at a minimum. Dangerous if used at the wolf enclosure at the zoo.
God cucked joseph then everyone laughed. Great story.
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 07:26 PM
Again wiff dat A.I Reiwa. Also "praying" to invoke anything is like believing that I can cast Wolf Form and actually turn into a wolf. Delusional at a minimum. Dangerous if used at the wolf enclosure at the zoo.
God cucked joseph then everyone laughed. Great story.
Just as a joke, you should ask him to drive out the spirit of wickedness that is possessing you. Haha just as a joke.
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 07:47 PM
1. The catholic religion is centered around forgiveness of sin.
2. Joseph forgives his wife for giving virgin birth.
3. 2000 years later porn addicts seethe.
magic isn't real, Joseph got cucked.
many such cases.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/23/16/8a/23168aba3aa2cf4713d46d7bd1fed404.jpg
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 07:52 PM
What else have you learned from your thousands of hours of listening to Andrew Tate?
zero, youtube doesn't even know what to do when i click the podcast tab, not subscribed to any of them
https://i.imgur.com/k7eera9.png
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 08:13 PM
The entire religion can be summed up in the first scene the movie and you guys are like.
This joeseph guy is a CUCK beta BITCH Im so fuckn WOKE! *joins islam!
https://i.imgur.com/wTlaVhc.png
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 08:16 PM
What are all the people that sell their tesla's buying? Back to crude for them?
They finally found a reason that even they don't think recycling is worth it?
Welcome to being based I guess.
https://i.imgur.com/VUW1YhQ.png
plane tickets hopefully.
only thing dumber than buying a product for political reasons is selling the same product at a loss because the owners politics changed
The entire religion can be summed up in the first scene the movie and you guys are like.
This joeseph guy is a CUCK beta BITCH Im so fuckn WOKE! *joins islam!
https://i.imgur.com/wTlaVhc.png
all i know is learned how a baby was made in 5th grade sex ed. and basing a relgion around the concept of a bitch not lying is a flaw worse than the death star design from soy wars
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 08:21 PM
*I bought it to save the environment!
*I sold it because Im boycotting the goverment!
YEE HAAW MY MAGA BROTHER!
https://i.imgur.com/jg891JF.png
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 08:22 PM
all i know is learned how a baby was made in 5th grade sex ed. and basing a relgion around the concept of a bitch not lying is a flaw worse than the death star design from soy wars
Translation: Imagine forgiving your wife for having a baby that you did not make! In my religion we would beat her!
Once again god demonstrates how he speaks in pairable so the learned can hear his message and the mindless can hear there's.
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 08:26 PM
Ya think jesus died for our sins because he loved how much his father forgave his mother for hers?
Now you know why he gonna come back with that flaming sword.
0s_vmrlA400
Aaron Sorkin tried explaining how bio diesel is a good thing like 30 years ago to liberals in a west wing episode. didn't stick.
In my religion we would beat her!
my religion is capitalism, so i can make enough money to escape other people's problems
all the Abraham tards need to hurry up and join forces under 1 book so we can quit fucking around and conquer the galaxy though, i do support that
https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Orange_Catholic_Bible
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 08:29 PM
Aaron Sorkin tried explaining how bio diesel is a good thing like 30 years ago to liberals in a west wing episode. didn't stick.
I had a friend that had modded a volvo into one of those.
When you drove behind him it smelled like McDonalds :D
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 08:34 PM
my religion is capitalism, so i can make enough money to escape other people's problems
all the Abraham tards need to hurry up and join forces under 1 book so we can quit fucking around and conquer the galaxy though, i do support that
https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Orange_Catholic_Bible
I would absolutly love if the abrahamic religions would do that.
But for totally different reasons than why you would :D
🤞
9ciUnpSqiOQ
you'd think Americans would be super into that, or hell you'd think McDonalds would buy some politicians to make it happen
no way it wouldn't drive up sales.
i haven't had McDonalds in years, i heard if i try a big mac right now i'd throw up because it tastes like the poison it is when you aren't used to it
I would absolutly love if the abrahamic religions would do that.
But for totally different reasons than why you would :D
luckily, given human history i don't think its gonna happen anytime soon. they all would rather fight eachother than a straight up infidel
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 08:56 PM
my religion is capitalism, so i can make enough money to escape other people's problems
literally u :D
w8iIDy-vOTE
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 09:09 PM
I would absolutly love if the abrahamic religions would do that.
But for totally different reasons than why you would :D
🤞
9ciUnpSqiOQ
Indifferentism is a material heresy for most.
literally u :D
w8iIDy-vOTE
ive never seen the lawnmower man movies, that's another to add to the list, that cgi does not hold up well though holy shit lol
Botten
02-01-2025, 10:27 PM
Well now that the Trump taxes are here lets watch America struggle as he collects money from us in prep to pull his reverse RobinHood.
Orange man: "Durrr look I have all this Tariff money that you think is from other countries. I am pretending the US made money. With this proof, congress give us the tax reliefs on me and my rich friends!"
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 10:34 PM
Well now that the Trump taxes are here lets watch America struggle as he collects money from us in prep to pull his reverse RobinHood.
Orange man: "Durrr look I have all this Tariff money that you think is from other countries. I am pretending the US made money. With this proof, congress give us the tax reliefs on me and my rich friends!"
You don't pay the tariff if you buy American.
Why all the Orange Man Bad Botten? I mean we all know he is, it just makes you look one dimensional.
Just sit back and watch.
Maybe, just maybe he will come good with a promise and Make 'merica Grate (on your nerves) Again.
All ya politicians are corrupt. They all voted to allow top lvl pollies to be allowed to trade stocks cuz "free trade" none of them wanna give up the free ride.
Trump hasnt emptied the swamp as yet but he does say it. For votes.
Nothing will change really except who can make advantage now.
No one who works a job will make bank.
Same as before.
Relax and quietly laugh. Like me.
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 10:41 PM
Pursuing the fiction
Major General Smedley D. Butler, a decorated Marine Corps officer and antiwar activist, was diagnosed with a nervous breakdown in 1908.
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 10:52 PM
CNN: Trump hasn't delivered on any promises!
He hasn't become dictator
No deportation raids
Only ended 1 war so far
Has only fired a reasonable amount of people
He is totally not delivering on any of (our!) promises what a failure!
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 10:55 PM
Only ended 1 war so far
He bombed Somalia. Just because we like it doesn't mean it's not a war.
shovelquest
02-01-2025, 10:57 PM
Thank god all this pusy shit was getting to me. Hopefully they forgot three 000's on that Guantanamo joint.
Botten
02-01-2025, 11:18 PM
You don't pay the tariff if you buy American.
oil, car parts (even American are made in Mexico), IT equipment etc
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 11:20 PM
oil
It used to be illegal to export that shit. Not that long ago.
Thanks Obama.
Botten
02-01-2025, 11:31 PM
It used to be illegal to export that shit. Not that long ago.
Thanks Obama.
Without it we would not have made $657 billion annually from oil exports to the EU due to Russia's war.
Reiwa
02-01-2025, 11:38 PM
Without it we would not have made $657 billion annually from oil exports to the EU due to Russia's war.
Is it really worth making $657b analy if we can't afford eggs?
Is it really worth making $657b analy if we can't afford eggs?
It is for the right people. You are clearly a wrong (EDIT-- person).
And if you dont like to make money analy, that is prolly a good thing.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 12:14 AM
Glad we could clear up that the democrat party is only good at enriching themselves and the 1%
Reiwa
02-02-2025, 12:20 AM
Bird flu is gonna solve world hunger but in a good way.
send post
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 12:27 AM
The bald guy who said trump was gonna get shot in the ear and the stock market would be red after he's elected said a pandemic bigger than covid is coming.
Maybe he is good at just predicting patterns before they become apparent to other people.
Only for people who eat burbs!
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 12:27 AM
If birds are not real.
And bird flue is going to get us sick.
NOW WE KNOW WHAT THE DRONES IN NJ WERE DOING!
NopeNopeNopeNope
02-02-2025, 12:34 AM
Why all the Orange Man Bad Botten? I mean we all know he is, it just makes you look one dimensional.
Just sit back and watch.
Maybe, just maybe he will come good with a promise and Make 'merica Grate (on your nerves) Again.
All ya politicians are corrupt. They all voted to allow top lvl pollies to be allowed to trade stocks cuz "free trade" none of them wanna give up the free ride.
Trump hasnt emptied the swamp as yet but he does say it. For votes.
Nothing will change really except who can make advantage now.
No one who works a job will make bank.
Same as before.
Relax and quietly laugh. Like me.
I dunno, I’m a repub but this tariff on Mexico confuddles me
His explanation is that it’s due to Mexico’s hands off attitude towards cartels and drugs. I can’t agree that all or even the majority of Mexico officials are secretly shaking hands with cartel bosses. There have been enough high profile cartel killings of local politicians and police. I used to follow a few different cartel news YouTube channels…
Let’s agree with the hypothesis that Mexico hadn’t done enough, what is it to do now? The only thing that would truly curtail cartels is to try the El Salvadoran way, a massive scale crackdown with a temporary halt on due process. And a lot of risks with that:
- Cartels have infinitely more funding, guns, and tech than shithole gangs, will they go so quietly into the night?
- Does Mexico have a prison system large enough to handle that kind of influx assuming they all casually surrendered?
- No due process is pretty corruptible, and technically wrong on its own, but I had little issue with this when El Salvador did it due to the dire straits they were in to justify it
But if not the Lock Em All Up El Salvador approach, what exactly does he want Mexico to do? Unfortunately the Mexican pres is right, collaboration will work better than antagonization. Does Trump want Mexico bussing more Central American migrants to the US border out of spite? Because they will
Its not about the doing NopeNope its all about the saying. The optics.
He may get rid of the swamp creatures, the career politcians but they will be replaced by "businessmen consultants" who have zero actual power (so are not the same... plausible deniability so to speak,) but will have the ear of the For sale President.
So he can say "See, I got rid of those career criminal politicians" you just dont wanna hear that they are to be replaced by objectively a worse alternative that direct even more to specific entities.
This wont help those without ears to hear or eyes to see.
Goooo Sportsball team!
EDIT---
In short, those with funds/the wherewithall to buy before tarrifs affect them will make bank. Especially if they are backtracked later...
Smaller entities cannot frontload. (Enough to make a difference)
The rich will still be richer. Wallmart etc can afford to do that.
Womp gets to say "See i did what I said id do." Emptied dat swamp-a-rooney.
Meanwhile the small guy gets screwed (same as before) the large concerns make bank (same as before).
It takes money to make money. (Same as before). So you got what you all voted for.
But do you still want what you got?
Also. People saying Buy 'merican!
What do you guys even make? And at what relative cost? Genuine question actually.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 01:11 AM
I just hope that we give mercenaries the legal right to do the plot to triple frontier. And to let them wear the flag on their shoulders while they do it.
Fo3yRLLrXQA
Popet
02-02-2025, 01:24 AM
Putin is rebuilding the Russian empire, it's working, confronting him head on would be too risky (nukes 'n stuff) even if the US could do it conventionally (they can't really), so the US is going to ramp up US empire building, US style, to keep pace.
1) Demand huge concessions from overseas vassals. Germany must commit 5% of GDP which is 50% of total budget to military lololol.
2) Make impossible demands on neighbors, starting with straight up demands for cash money. When they fail to pay up, use it as a reason for demanding more concessions and more access, with the eventual goal of essentially taking over. What are they going to do? Complain about it? Ask China for help? Lololol. BRICS? LMAO.
3) Russia wants half of Ukraine? China wants Taiwan? US will puppet Mexico and probably other SA countries all the way down to Panama, do Canada AND Greenland too, while Europe grovels and gets ready to fight the orcs for democracy. Who's got the biggest dick now, Putin? EL OH EL OH EL.
4) Putin used military force because he lost control of the Ukrainian gov and Ukraine/NATO was becoming a serious military threat on his border, but US is under no direct military threat and will go with tariffs and other economic methods first, which will work much better against allies and neighbors than they did against Russia, and will only use military force if it's really necessary. Probably won't be. Maybe some "police" in Mexico.
5) More stars for the flag, Trump gets credit for getting the ball rolling.
East vs West. Oceania has always been at war with Asia/Russia. Unironically.
Always wiff dat pretend movie/game stuff.
It's OK if you feel helpless.
Admitting it is the first step.
Superman is just a non denominational "god".
Movie hero? Same.
As long as the shooter has a stars and stripes it seems fine.
Gooo Sportsball Team!
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 01:46 AM
Always wiff dat pretend movie/game stuff.
I'm just not so scared I don't have a sense of humor you cuckunist.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 01:48 AM
Mexico, you're next (and your little dog canada too).
https://i.imgur.com/0xEP0Sb.png
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 02:09 AM
Haha.
Nicw work.
I appreciate you appreciate my words like wokies and cuckunists.
I dunno, I’m a repub but this tariff on Mexico confuddles me
His explanation is that it’s due to Mexico’s hands off attitude towards cartels and drugs. I can’t agree that all or even the majority of Mexico officials are secretly shaking hands with cartel bosses. There have been enough high profile cartel killings of local politicians and police. I used to follow a few different cartel news YouTube channels…
Let’s agree with the hypothesis that Mexico hadn’t done enough, what is it to do now? The only thing that would truly curtail cartels is to try the El Salvadoran way, a massive scale crackdown with a temporary halt on due process. And a lot of risks with that:
- Cartels have infinitely more funding, guns, and tech than shithole gangs, will they go so quietly into the night?
- Does Mexico have a prison system large enough to handle that kind of influx assuming they all casually surrendered?
- No due process is pretty corruptible, and technically wrong on its own, but I had little issue with this when El Salvador did it due to the dire straits they were in to justify it
But if not the Lock Em All Up El Salvador approach, what exactly does he want Mexico to do? Unfortunately the Mexican pres is right, collaboration will work better than antagonization. Does Trump want Mexico bussing more Central American migrants to the US border out of spite? Because they will
I would imagine what he wants but can't exactly clearly verbalize is for Mexico to stop allowing massive migrant caravans from central america free passage to dip into the US. Probably also fentanyl.
However, corporations run America and massive immigration is in their best interest, so behind all this shock and awe, symbolism and rhetoric, I can't imagine anything substantive will get done. (like cracking down on hiring)
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 04:05 AM
Put Trump in charge of all corporations. Problem solved.
He made 2 Casinos Go Broke.
Genius.
Anywho. This wont help.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 04:21 AM
Yeah he learned things its called being a business man.
Shows he's qualified.
You get that bit where the house always wins right?
NVM.
Goooo Mango Busillini!
Can do no wrong.
Is a gentleman.
Never cheats on pregnant wives.
Someone to look up to.
At least you show who you are Shovel.
Good for you buddy.
He will never acknowledge you.
No matter how much you simp.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 04:46 AM
free'd the j6ers
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 05:14 AM
Hero's.
https://i.imgur.com/IFgIbdu.jpeg
Close except it is truly more like this
https://i.imgur.com/dnFLkmo.jpeg
Given that they didnt murder any cops in boston
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 05:38 AM
Trumps an idiot for doing tariffs against Canada.
HAHA Canada is BASED for tariffs against USA!
See, nothing trump does is wrong unless he does it.
Patriam1066
02-02-2025, 05:49 AM
you guys really fucked up my china thread, you know that?
China have small pecker and hive mind. Yes, they are good at stealing tech and spying like the Soviets, but like the Soviets, they will create a decaying society that will collapse under its own weight
I wouldn’t worry too much buddy. God loves America too much to let a nation founded by a person as ugly as Mao take us down
PS: tariffs on Canada? What are we wanting from them? Hockey players? Maple syrup? What could we possibly want or need from Canada?
It’s very weird to want both Keystone XL & tariffs on Canada. Trump and Biden might need Alzheimer’s meds and to play chess with one another at a park.
'God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.'
edit:
Deepseek thought for 39 seconds
Okay, so I came across this quote: "God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America." I need to figure out what it means. Let me start by breaking it down.
First, the quote mentions three groups: fools, drunkards, and the USA. The phrase "special providence" is key here. I know that "providence" often refers to divine guidance or care, like God looking after things. So, the quote seems to suggest that God takes extra care of these three groups.
Why would fools and drunkards be grouped with the USA? Maybe it's a way of saying that despite making mistakes or bad decisions (like fools or drunkards might), the United States still manages to thrive or succeed, as if by divine intervention. It could be a commentary on how the US has survived challenges or crises despite flaws or reckless behavior.
I recall that this quote is often attributed to Otto von Bismarck, the German chancellor. He was around in the 19th century, so maybe he was observing the US's growth and resilience. The US had gone through things like the Civil War and was expanding rapidly. Bismarck might have been remarking on how the US seemed to overcome obstacles that would have crippled other nations, almost as if luck or divine favor was involved.
The phrase "special providence" might also be a play on the idea of "Manifest Destiny," the 19th-century belief that the US was destined to expand across the continent, which was often seen as divinely ordained. So combining that idea with the notion that even those who are foolish or impaired (fools and drunkards) receive God's care, the quote could be both a compliment and a backhanded one. It praises the US's resilience but maybe implies that its success isn't entirely due to wise policies or actions, but more to luck or divine help.
Another angle: in religious contexts, there's a concept that God looks out for the vulnerable or those who can't help themselves. Fools and drunkards might be seen as needing extra care. By putting the US in that category, it might be suggesting that the country, despite its power, still requires (or receives) divine protection, perhaps because of its recklessness or the challenges it faces.
But I need to be careful not to overinterpret. The quote is a wry observation, possibly with a mix of admiration and criticism. It's saying that even though the US (like fools and drunkards) might not always act wisely, it somehow manages to come out okay, implying that there's some higher power watching over it.
I should check if there are any historical contexts where Bismarck would have said this. Bismarck was known for his realpolitik and sharp commentary. If he did say this, it might have been during a time when the US was emerging as a significant but still young nation, facing internal conflicts but managing to survive and grow. So his statement could reflect a European perspective on American exceptionalism, with a bit of skepticism about how the US managed its affairs.
In summary, the quote suggests that the United States, despite its flaws or reckless behavior, is under divine protection, allowing it to succeed where others might fail. It's a mix of acknowledging the country's resilience while perhaps subtly critiquing its actions or policies as being foolish or irresponsible, yet still blessed with good fortune.
and the response
The quote, "God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America," often attributed to Otto von Bismarck, carries layered meaning through its juxtaposition of divine care with human folly. Here's a structured breakdown:
Divine Providence: The term "special providence" refers to the belief that God actively intervenes to guide or protect certain entities. By linking this concept to fools and drunkards—archetypes of poor judgment—the quote humorously suggests that even those who act recklessly receive divine oversight.
American Exceptionalism: Including the U.S. in this trio implies a wry observation of the nation’s historical resilience and success despite perceived missteps. The U.S., through crises like the Civil War or rapid expansion, seemed to thrive as if by a higher power’s favor, akin to the "Manifest Destiny" ideology that framed territorial expansion as divinely ordained.
Bismarck’s Perspective: As a European statesman, Bismarck might have viewed the young, turbulent U.S. with a mix of admiration and skepticism. The quote subtly critiques American policies as impulsive or naive, yet acknowledges the nation’s uncanny ability to overcome challenges, possibly through luck or providence rather than wisdom.
Dual Interpretation: The statement is both a compliment and a critique. It praises the U.S.’s enduring success but hints that this success isn’t solely due to shrewd governance—it may stem from an almost childlike reliance on fortune or divine grace, much like the undeserved protection granted to fools and drunkards.
In essence, the quote encapsulates a tension between admiration for American resilience and a cynical view of its decision-making, framed within the idea of supernatural favoritism.
didn't read any of it. gn.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 05:57 AM
Kstone XL means Canada pays USA to move oil through it. Tarrifs means Canada pays Usa to send goods into it.
So both just generate revenue for USA to do nothing.
We make money while we sleep.
I believe it's mostly natural resources, things like oil, uranium, lumber
It's a bonehead fucking move. Canada isn't exactly a place where enterprises go to undercut US goods and we're going to need the largest duty-free market we can get to put the pain on China, where it matters. Just dumb as all hell, though I expected as much.
Kstone XL means Canada pays USA to move oil through it. Tarrifs means Canada pays Usa to send goods into it.
So both just generate revenue for USA to do nothing.
We make money while we sleep.
https://i.imgur.com/xc1x7uT.gif
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 06:03 AM
The funny thing to me is will democrats get rid of the tarrifs when they get in office? or will by then will they be like, "well this does give us money for social programs"...
'God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.'
edit:
Deepseek thought for 39 seconds
and the response
didn't read any of it. gn.
https://i.imgur.com/IHo4KOE.jpeg
China just trolling us now
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 06:16 AM
I still can't get over that if you ask a robot to turn down the volume during commercials it will say no.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 06:20 AM
Robots wont be like butlers or assistants, they will be like nanny's.
It's gonna be so fucked up.
God loves America too mu h to... blah blah blah.
Sorry moron, you lost the thinking man right there.
Asking Deepseek what's up is like asking Pooh Bear if the "incident" at Tiananmen Square happened.
Ohh, Pooh Bear is Xi Jinping for those wondering.
I blame Canada.
For those in doubt that Musk knows the difference.
https://imgur.com/gallery/4oKxSoR
In before fake!
Sorry.
Reiwa
02-02-2025, 12:50 PM
God loves America too mu h to... blah blah blah.
Sorry moron, you lost the thinking man right there.
https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-the-americans-are-a-very-lucky-people-they-re-bordered-to-the-north-and-south-by-weak-otto-von-bismarck-134-40-38.jpg
The tip of the pyramid on money with the eye on it is called the Eye of Providence. It means God is watching over us.
Reiwa
02-02-2025, 12:52 PM
'God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.'
edit:
Deepseek thought for 39 seconds
and the response
didn't read any of it. gn.
https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-the-death-of-lincoln-was-a-disaster-for-christendom-there-was-no-man-in-the-united-states-otto-von-bismarck-52-74-70.jpg
https://www.azquotes.com/public/picture_quotes/55/18/5518e4d2aaa61b33222018fa03dc42d1/otto-von-bismarck-615228.jpg
Otto was a gamergate guy.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 02:58 PM
For those in doubt that Musk knows the difference.
https://imgur.com/gallery/4oKxSoR
In before fake!
Sorry.
If you remove his left arm in the gif on the left where he uses both hands, he does the exact. same. hand. motion.
Nice work Duik, we can move this one to:
Debunked.
He was not doing a secret seig heil.
The reptoids don't openly speek in code right in front of your faces.
He is not wearing a skin suit.
Moved to resolved.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 03:00 PM
https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-the-americans-are-a-very-lucky-people-they-re-bordered-to-the-north-and-south-by-weak-otto-von-bismarck-134-40-38.jpg.
Correction:
Mexico and Canada are very lucky people that they are next to America, or they would be the parts of the Greater Soviet Empire.
And Europe is lucky America exists or: same thing.
as an empire we get off sexually being demeaned by our lessers while being the most altruistic empire in human history.
it's fucking weird.
noone ever flew two planes into roman buildings is all i'm sayin, ya know?
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 03:38 PM
as an empire we get off sexually being demeaned by our lessers while being the most altruistic empire in human history.
Where have I seen that before? :o
https://i.imgur.com/PbxXiXV.png
https://i.imgur.com/JREMdGl.png
https://c.tenor.com/8aryJmhiIi0AAAAd/tenor.gif
my new personal record for deepseek
https://i.imgur.com/JREMdGl.png
my new personal record for deepseek
INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER
Reiwa
02-02-2025, 07:43 PM
naked lady at the grammy's
Kanye loves attention.
INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER
it pondered for nearly 2 minutes and generated 4,185 words 25,445 characters in "thoughts" to unfuck some python code
it used the word "Alternatively" 32 times "perhaps" 30 "maybe" 27 times because i was super vague in what i wanted, lied to it about what the code did, and my problem with it, and the bug fix i wanted to to help me with.
it usually spits out code in like 6 - 15 seconds
i'm basically DDOS Deepseek's GPUs by being retarded.
edit: oh and the shit it eventually spit out didn't even work.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 08:05 PM
Can someone explain to me how using sanctions to stop your enemy from doing something is any different than using tariffs to stop your ally from doing something?
Like, what's the dif between sanctions and tariffs?
babe, identity of the heli pilot just dropped. RIP
https://i.imgur.com/PkOZCvb.jpeg
it was her annual flight evaluation :( I'm assuming it did not go well
Reiwa
02-02-2025, 08:25 PM
Can someone explain to me how using sanctions to stop your enemy from doing something is any different than using tariffs to stop your ally from doing something?
Like, what's the dif between sanctions and tariffs?
Sanctions are our subjects can't do business with you.
Tariffs are OK our subjects can do business with you, but they have to pay us a tax.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 08:39 PM
I'm sorry in advance.
c6gdBEUmAcI
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 08:43 PM
Sanctions are our subjects can't do business with you.
Tariffs are OK our subjects can do business with you, but they have to pay us a tax.
Pretty damn close tho eh?
we sanction countries we aren't afraid of generally, and use tariffs for ones we are or consider equal anyway. we tariff china's EVs but ignore the uighurs situation, but we use sanctions on Russia and straight up seize property of it's citizens ( the yachts and bank funds)
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 09:16 PM
I love how trumps plan for tariffs is
"so im gonna just throw this big cannister into the fire"
"wait what?!"
"Its going in!"
"but--"
"it's in!"
https://i.imgur.com/N7vEeLL.png
Reiwa
02-02-2025, 09:18 PM
but ignore the uighurs situation
Joey Scranton sold them out for an empty promise (https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/2023/11/biden-lifts-sanctions-tied-to-chinas-persecution-of-uyghurs-for-a-fentanyl-promise-00127865) on fentanyl precursors.
shovelquest
02-02-2025, 09:53 PM
This picture of Pete Hegseth at the border.
https://i.imgur.com/n13Igan.png
Reiwa
02-02-2025, 10:05 PM
*holds "We are not criminals" sign*
*blocks freeway*
"Si se puede!"
Reiwa
02-02-2025, 10:09 PM
Why doesn't Trump, the largest Friend, simply require every state to enforce public employees return to office in order to receive federal funding?
Trexller
02-02-2025, 11:31 PM
Why doesn't Trump, the largest Friend, simply require every state to enforce public employees return to office in order to receive federal funding?
when they talk about withholding federal funding for whatever reason i always wonder, aren't those funds already in place holding down other various spheres of influence?
so if you withhold funds then they have less reason to do what you want
Reiwa
02-02-2025, 11:39 PM
when they talk about withholding federal funding for whatever reason i always wonder, aren't those funds already in place holding down other various spheres of influence?
so if you withhold funds then they have less reason to do what you want
I know Medicaid and school funding(including meal programs) are federal block grants that require compliance.
The wrestling man's ladywife is gonna be secretary of education though. Should be fun.
Trexller
02-02-2025, 11:44 PM
I know Medicaid and school funding(including meal programs) are federal block grants that require compliance.
The wrestling man's ladywife is gonna be secretary of education though. Should be fun.
yeah let's hear what she has to say, us education is in a bad spot
we got 25 year olds that barely read
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 01:36 AM
The wrestling man's ladywife.
I swear the way you talk 😂
you'd make a great wizard IRL
https://i.imgur.com/wHn7qM2.png
China sitting over there like Sun Tzu "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 01:40 AM
China sitting over there like Sun Tzu "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"
I wonder how much of their brilliance is attributed diredctly to Xi. Like, if when he kicks the bucket the whole fucking thing is gonna come collapsing like a house of cards?
Or will they be able to maintain it for more than 1 generation, like NK has, which.. let's all give them a round of applause.
I can't think of any other cult's that have survived the deaths of THREE leaders.
Reiwa
02-03-2025, 01:45 AM
I wonder how much of their brilliance is attributed diredctly to Xi. Like, if when he kicks the bucket the whole fucking thing is gonna come collapsing like a house of cards?
Or will they be able to maintain it for more than 1 generation, like NK has, which.. let's all give them a round of applause.
I can't think of any other cult's that have survived the deaths of THREE leaders.
Dengism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deng_Xiaoping_Theory) preceded Xi Jingping Thought (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_Jinping_Thought) as the major pathos.
There were a few dudes in between that have already been forgotten by history.
Whatever they're doing within the CCP to pick leaders, they seem to do a decent job. It's inscrutable like when they pick a pope. I'm sure as the generations go by with one party rule however they're going to end up with a bunch of dipshits
https://i.imgur.com/1mEkGdm.jpeg
Reiwa
02-03-2025, 02:04 AM
No reactionary, no reactionary. You're the reactionary! No, you're the reactionary. (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/846190-we-re-an-empire-now-and-when-we-act-we-create)
Botten
02-03-2025, 12:22 PM
New Ai2 Tulu3 just released said to out perform Deepseek and Open AI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q-qQGnhu2E)
and
Due to even more instability - Japan Made Tough Decison Against US: Japan ditching more US Treasury (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K30J6JhnqmE)
and
Orange man overreact hurting all Americans by threatening to increase Tariffs (tax on Americans) everyday when countries refuse to back down.
'Orange Man' used fentanyl to justify tariffs, but the crisis was already easing (https://www.npr.org/2025/02/02/nx-s1-5283957/fentanyl-trump-tariffs-china-canada-mexico)
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 12:41 PM
I strong attribute Xi 100% not the CCP.
Elizondo
02-03-2025, 01:46 PM
2 weeks in and Bug Brained Botten already coping hard
Pure Comedy
New Ai2 Tulu3 just released said to out perform Deepseek and Open AI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q-qQGnhu2E)
told ya'll deepseek wasn't that big of a deal, it's just what Google and OpenAI and everyone already has behind closed doors and china just stole it and dumped it on the internet like a Warez team from 1999
opensource LLM + opensource Copilot is the future.
Jack from Twitter tweeted out a opensource project for the Microsoft copilot killer the other night
https://github.com/block/goose
About
an open-source, extensible AI agent that goes beyond code suggestions - install, execute, edit, and test with any LLM
https://i.imgur.com/yTBXfHE.jpeg
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 03:02 PM
'Orange Man'
and
tariffs
and
crisis
https://i.imgur.com/f7OBO91.png
Botten
02-03-2025, 03:25 PM
2 weeks in and Bug Brained Botten already coping hard
Pure Comedy
It is just Muzzle velocity all over again.
The claim that the Democrat party is the media. And the media only focuses on one thing at a time.
Flood the zone
Every day hit the media with three things. TheyÂ’ll bite on one and in the chaos some stuff will get done.
The tactic is never let the US government recover.
It is old but the truth... the Orange man wants others to think he is a king when he isn't.
He has slim majority and he knows that. Passing anything of substance could just be opposed by high level executive of a business making him look weaker.
Orange man would be better off arguing that he is just trying to bring the high performance management to the federal government (LoL, not keta up Elon).. it is rule one of a power grab, --you never want it to look like a power grab.
Instead the Orange man is looking to burn it all down all but inviting resistance. Age can't take him fast enough.
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 03:25 PM
We won lol based you lost!
Age can't take him fast enough
LMAO "I wish he was dead I wish murder, murder kill murder!!!"
lol
Botten
02-03-2025, 03:27 PM
<silly misguide meme on tariffs.gif>
'discussed' troops aren't even in place and the Orange man backing down:
reality sets in: Trump Pauses Tariffs On Mexico After Financial Stocks Nosedive (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tariffs-mexico_n_67a0e4a3e4b021be14ed99ed)
Oof
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 03:28 PM
reality sets in: Mexico moving 10,000 troops to border.
tariffs worked LOL
Botten
02-03-2025, 03:28 PM
We won lol based you lost!
LMAO "I wish he was dead I wish murder, murder kill murder!!!"
lol
The intelligence of the MAGA voter :rolleyes:
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 03:30 PM
LOL TWO failed assassination attempts!!
Age can't take him fast enough.Age can't take him fast enough.Age can't take him fast enough.Age can't take him fast enough.Age can't take him fast enough.Age can't take him fast enough.
Pray all you want god wont help you
Botten
02-03-2025, 03:34 PM
tariffs worked LOL
He backed down on Mexico the minute Canada bit him. The Troops aren't even there.
Canada already pointed out breaking the agreement just means the oil can flow to the open market to be sold there. TMPL and oil refineries are already making the move.
US Gas prices increase everything ... Thanks Trump
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 03:38 PM
Trump tells mexico what o do, mexico says no.
Trump puts tariffs on mexico, tells them what to do.
Mexico says, ok well do it.
Trump removes tariffs and your crying about egg prices was for nothing.
Wins every time.
You cry every time.
It's like desert.
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 03:39 PM
Canada already pointed out breaking the agreement just means the oil can flow to the open market to be sold there. TMPL and oil refineries are already making the move.
We got more oil than the saudi's we'll be fine.
Botten
02-03-2025, 03:41 PM
LOL TWO failed assassination attempts!!
Pray all you want god wont help you
-J6 attempt on your X-VP was GOP voters.
-Crooks was a GOP voter and his father was a Libertarian that took down Orange man's lawn promotions after the horrors of J6
-White van man had a fascist flag idolizing the same Proud Boys and Oath Keepers values who L.O.L. also support GOP causes.
Botten
02-03-2025, 03:42 PM
Trump tells mexico what o do, mexico says no.
Trump puts tariffs on mexico, tells them what to do.
Mexico says, ok well do it.
Trump removes tariffs and your crying about egg prices was for nothing.
Wins every time.
You cry every time.
It's like desert.
Egg prices have nothing to do with Mexico -.- *sigh
Botten
02-03-2025, 03:44 PM
We got more oil than the saudi's we'll be fine.
-.-
The U.S. imports 4 million barrels per day of Canadian oil, 70% of which is processed by refiners in the Midwest.
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 03:47 PM
-.-
The U.S. imports 4 million barrels per day of Canadian oil, 70% of which is processed by refiners in the Midwest.
Oh no we have to convert the refineries to processing our OWN oil, oh booo hoooo.
Hope nobody in Canada loses their homes because their goverment wants to stand up to trump.
Botten
02-03-2025, 03:55 PM
Oh no we have to convert the refineries to processing our OWN oil, oh booo hoooo.
Hope nobody in Canada loses their homes because their goverment wants to stand up to trump.
How would they? They have all the construction material :D
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 03:55 PM
-J6 attempt on your X-VP was GOP voters.
-Crooks was a GOP voter and his father was a Libertarian that took down Orange man's lawn promotions after the horrors of J6
-White van man had a fascist flag idolizing the same Proud Boys and Oath Keepers values who L.O.L. also support GOP causes.
GOP = DNC
MAGA = TRUMP
Hope this helps.
Age can't take him fast enough.
Hatred corrodes the container it's carried in
also, it's like blaming the raccoon when you leave the trash lid open, it's fucking retarded. just be less shit at your job and as a person, and people won't resort to extreme measures to hyperdunk on you out of spite.
if Bill Clinton didn't sell out the working man with NAFTA none of this would have happened.
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 04:05 PM
if Bill Clinton didn't sell out the working man with NAFTA none of this would have happened.
Reiwa
02-03-2025, 04:06 PM
Hatred corrodes the container it's carried in
also, it's like blaming the raccoon when you leave the trash lid open, it's fucking retarded. just be less shit at your job and as a person, and people won't resort to extreme measures to hyperdunk on you out of spite.
if Bill Clinton didn't sell out the working man with NAFTA none of this would have happened.
Hey it was Reagan's idea.
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 04:06 PM
Hey it was Reagan's idea.
GOP = DNC
Hope this helps.
MAGA #1
https://i.imgur.com/TiNcoef.png
Reiwa
02-03-2025, 04:10 PM
MAGA #1
https://i.imgur.com/TiNcoef.png
Did you eat a bunch of sugar today?
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 04:12 PM
Did you eat a bunch of sugar today?
Mostly salt :D
Hey it was Reagan's idea.
yeah that's the point, Americans are so fucking dumb they didn't know ACA was Newt Grinch's plan from the 90s to fuck over people and steal money for insurance companies either.
every idea the republicans can't get passed, they just get it passed via a Democrat lying about how it's actualy good, and it's happened a fuck load of times in the last 40 years.
NopeNopeNopeNope
02-03-2025, 04:24 PM
There’s a rumor going around that the real reason the family asked for “privacy”, which technically isn’t a thing when you (and your flight instructor and the tower) cause the death of dozens and dozens of people…..is so that they could scrub her social media
Before, apparently according to some archives, it had pics of her at the occasional pride rally and expressing support for Dems/Biden. Now supposedly it is like she never existed in terms of what was scrubbed
Now, if this is true, I personally don’t understand the reason. She’s dead, the victims are dead, none of the dead care about how she happened to vote. Republicans make mistakes too. This fury to discover (by the angry mob) and conceal (by her family) her political affiliations speaks badly for our country
NopeNopeNopeNope
02-03-2025, 04:31 PM
Oh no we have to convert the refineries to processing our OWN oil, oh booo hoooo.
Hope nobody in Canada loses their homes because their goverment wants to stand up to trump.
Isn’t it in Canada you lose your home if you resist Trudeau?
Or you just can’t access your bank accounts or something. Which might eventually cause you to lose your home. Very effective way to enforce compliance though, freezing bank accounts. Woe the day this admin decides to pass that idea as legislation
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 04:32 PM
We're going to uncover more about her than the guy that shot trump and the firefighter at his rally.
Elizondo
02-03-2025, 04:34 PM
It is just Muzzle velocity all over again.
The claim that the Democrat party is the media. And the media only focuses on one thing at a time.
Flood the zone
Every day hit the media with three things. TheyÂ’ll bite on one and in the chaos some stuff will get done.
The tactic is never let the US government recover.
It is old but the truth... the Orange man wants others to think he is a king when he isn't.
He has slim majority and he knows that. Passing anything of substance could just be opposed by high level executive of a business making him look weaker.
Orange man would be better off arguing that he is just trying to bring the high performance management to the federal government (LoL, not keta up Elon).. it is rule one of a power grab, --you never want it to look like a power grab.
Instead the Orange man is looking to burn it all down all but inviting resistance. Age can't take him fast enough.
Your rambling doesn't interest me
I hope the next 4 years are a total nightmare for bug brained degens like you
Botten
02-03-2025, 05:52 PM
Your rambling doesn't interest me
I hope the next 4 years are a total nightmare for bug brained degens like you
Maybe I can jingle my keys to keep your attention next time -.-
But even after 4 years I still got your attention.
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 06:05 PM
WTB panama.
Maybe I can jingle my keys to keep your attention next time -.-
But even after 4 years I still got your attention.
only like 5 people post in off topic, not like we have a fucking choice in engaging with you or not.
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 06:27 PM
Canada LARPing they are Russia right now lmao
https://i.imgur.com/Q9S6l6F.png
this is all performance art of the worst kind.
cringe fr fr, like how he's carefully putting it in the box so he can put it back on the shelf a week from now when everyone moves on the new shiny outrage
Trexller
02-03-2025, 08:41 PM
mexico already caved
will canada will come around or will they will let the chinese push more fetty thru the nothern border
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 09:10 PM
mexico already caved
will canada will come around or will they will let the chinese push more fetty thru the nothern border
https://i.imgur.com/Yxd2Q9B.png
Imagine if he gets fyntanol deaths to be reduced year after year for even just 2 consecutive years would be incredible.
https://i.imgur.com/Tw29hAr.gif
Hatred corrodes the container it's carried in
also, it's like blaming the raccoon when you leave the trash lid open, it's fucking retarded. just be less shit at your job and as a person, and people won't resort to extreme measures to hyperdunk on you out of spite.
if Bill Clinton didn't sell out the working man with NAFTA none of this would have happened.
This is that hilarious drooling, helmet, grunting type of retardation.
WHY'D YOU MAKE US BURN DOWN THE CAPITOL BRO, BE LESS SHIT
Trexller
02-03-2025, 10:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Yxd2Q9B.png
Imagine if he gets fyntanol deaths to be reduced year after year for even just 2 consecutive years would be incredible.
well that was easy
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 10:09 PM
WHY'D YOU MAKE US BURN DOWN THE CAPITOL BRO
This country was founded on burning down capitols go back to Britten if you worship the king.
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 10:35 PM
well that was easy
https://i.imgur.com/w2jrFvL.png
Reiwa
02-03-2025, 10:47 PM
https://i.imgur.com/w2jrFvL.png
*Trump wants a foreign leader to do something they said they would or already have been doing*
Reiwa
02-03-2025, 10:54 PM
Withholding PEPFAR funding is unconscionable
Trump bad (https://x.com/SenBillCassidy/status/1886546867548512456)
This is that hilarious drooling, helmet, grunting type of retardation.
WHY'D YOU MAKE US BURN DOWN THE CAPITOL BRO, BE LESS SHIT
i haven't voted since the first Obama administration, i was never voting democrat again way before GamerGate and Trump and all this actual, drool cup circular firing squad, let's lose on purpose because clout on social media is what actually matters, shit.
sorry, not sorry.
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 11:31 PM
*Trump wants a foreign leader to do something they said they would or already have been doing*
Trump threatened to shut down the economy, to help POOR PEOPLE STOP OD'ing on drugs.
And the left is FUMING!
https://i.imgur.com/NBtWvAB.png
https://i.imgur.com/OJX4Ofj.png
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 11:34 PM
Don't worry, after the communists coop and kill trump all these czars and strike forces are going to be used to arrest conservatives.
Reiwa
02-03-2025, 11:43 PM
Trump threatened to shut down the economy, to help POOR PEOPLE STOP OD'ing on drugs.
And the left is FUMING!
https://i.imgur.com/NBtWvAB.png
https://i.imgur.com/OJX4Ofj.png
Canada has promised to implement a set of sweeping new security measures along the country's US border, including strengthened surveillance and a joint "strike force" to target transnational organised crime.
17 December 2024 (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czx5p41696po)
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 11:44 PM
Now they're doing them. This is literally what trump said.
Canada makes all these promises, and never follows through.
You can't beat us. You can't convince us that trump is bad.
Everybody is dug in.
Trump could walk out into the street, and literally shoot someone, and I'd say it was based.
Trump could spend 500 billion to cure cancer and the left will seethe.
https://i.imgur.com/GvaTgWO.gif
Trexller
02-03-2025, 11:49 PM
Trump could walk out into the street, and literally shoot someone, and I'd say it was based.
Trump would actually hit what he was shooting at, another thing the left cannot accomplish
shovelquest
02-03-2025, 11:50 PM
The funny thing about that meme is they actually tried to shoot him and they think we're gonna vote for them? lol
Reiwa
02-04-2025, 12:04 AM
Now they're doing them. This is literally what trump said.
Canada makes all these promises, and never follows through.
You can't beat us. You can't convince us that trump is bad.
Everybody is dug in.
Trump could walk out into the street, and literally shoot someone, and I'd say it was based.
Trump could spend 500 billion to cure cancer and the left will seethe.
https://i.imgur.com/GvaTgWO.gif
Your flowchart is inaccurate. It should be 'threatens' instead of 'announces'.
Reiwa
02-04-2025, 12:05 AM
Don't worry, after the communists coop and kill trump all these czars and strike forces are going to be used to arrest conservatives.
Czars a democrat thing. FDR style tyranny. Like Elon.
Reiwa
02-04-2025, 12:08 AM
This is what they renamed to be DOGE (https://www.usds.gov/)
Grok told me so.
Trump threatened to shut down the economy, to help POOR PEOPLE STOP OD'ing on drugs.
And the left is FUMING!
Canada knows Trump is all about optics and if they just commit to a bunch of meaningless shit they had already committed to, to make it look like a Trump W, they get to avoid tariffs, and we get to avoid the market implosion that was underway. Basically none of the fentanyl even comes from Canada lol.
Meanwhile, relations between a critical ally are permanently marred, giving China and/or Europe an in to drive an economic wedge between us, should the US-China trade war heat up.
Again, tariffs on anyone but China and maybe Mexico were never anything but fucking stupid. The US will need the largest duty-free market it can get if it wants to confront China economically. If anything, if Trump was going to demand something from Mexico and Canada, it should have just been that they put their own tariffs on China in exchange for tariff-free access to American markets.
NopeNopeNopeNope
02-04-2025, 12:08 AM
Trump could spend 500 billion to cure cancer and the left will seethe.
Not that it is even remotely close to the majority of the Left, more like a freak subsection, but there were some “activists” who were pissed about Mr Beast curing blindness because they felt like someone’s blindness is what made them special or something. Like “blind is beautiful” kind of bs
Bill Mahr made fun of it on one of his specials
shovelquest
02-04-2025, 12:09 AM
Don't care that people who hate trump think he's dumb and sucks.
Would be actually interesting to hear you try to hypothesize how something he's doing is smart and good.
Just to see you try to use your brain for anything other than a tape recorder.
Reiwa
02-04-2025, 12:16 AM
Canada knows Trump is all about optics and if they just commit to a bunch of meaningless shit they had already committed to, to make it look like a Trump W, they get to avoid tariffs, and we get to avoid the market implosion that was underway. Basically none of the fentanyl even comes from Canada lol.
Meanwhile, relations between a critical ally are permanently marred, giving China and/or Europe an in to drive an economic wedge between us, should the US-China trade war heat up.
Again, tariffs on anyone but China and maybe Mexico were never anything but fucking stupid. The US will need the largest duty-free market it can get if it wants to confront China economically. If anything, if Trump was going to demand something from Mexico and Canada, it should have just been that they put their own tariffs on China in exchange for tariff-free access to American markets.
For the sake of fairness, they did close the de minimis "loophole" with China. (https://bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2025/02/03/now-de-minimis-loophole-closed-products-coming-china-and-canada)
So yeah, no more cheap garbage directly to your door unless you pay the Trump tax.
shovelquest
02-04-2025, 12:35 AM
For the sake of fairness, they did close the de minimis "loophole" with China. (https://bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2025/02/03/now-de-minimis-loophole-closed-products-coming-china-and-canada)
So yeah, no more cheap garbage directly to your door unless you pay the Trump tax.
So did we keep the china tariff? Wasn't that one 10% and added along with the Canadian and Mexican ones?
Reiwa
02-04-2025, 12:46 AM
So did we keep the china tariff? Wasn't that one 10% and added along with the Canadian and Mexican ones?
China tarriff doesn't go into effect until tomorrow at whatever o'clock. Xi is gonna call him I guess.
Hmm maybe in a few minutes.
shovelquest
02-04-2025, 12:49 AM
Xi gonna send 10,000 troops to (a) border and make a fytnal czar and trump wins again :D
Reiwa
02-04-2025, 01:09 AM
Trump is gonna send US citizens to prison in El Salvador
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shovelquest
02-04-2025, 01:13 AM
If we buy Greenland we can turn the coldest parts into prisons.
Reiwa
02-04-2025, 01:15 AM
If we buy Greenland we can turn the coldest parts into prisons.
Revel's End (https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Revel%27s_End)
shovelquest
02-04-2025, 01:23 AM
It is our destiny.
Watching some of you guys is pretty hilarious.
It's like the neck is cheering on the guillotine.
Revel's End (https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Revel%27s_End)
FR is the worst campaign setting of all the campaign settings.
send post.
Ciderpress
02-04-2025, 09:16 AM
Trump could spend 500 billion to cure cancer and the left will seethe.
I guarantee this is true. He could *personally* cure cancer with his very own lab and they'd find a reason why it's bad. Something like "I meeeeean, cmon, there are too many humans on earth, cancer culls the heard. Climate change ya know? Trump just wants to selfishly live forever with his RICH FRIENDS."
TDS warps the mind, it makes people stake out ludicrous positions simply because they are the opposite of a thing trump did or said.
This is why we can't have nice things, etc..
Botten
02-04-2025, 11:35 AM
I guarantee this is true. He could *personally* cure cancer with his very own lab and they'd find a reason why it's bad. Something like "I meeeeean, cmon, there are too many humans on earth, cancer culls the heard. Climate change ya know? Trump just wants to selfishly live forever with his RICH FRIENDS."
TDS warps the mind, it makes people stake out ludicrous positions simply because they are the opposite of a thing trump did or said.
This is why we can't have nice things, etc..
Lack of education and Total Devotion Syndrome is why we have the Orange man.
consider a tailored treatment for most any cancer (no matter how rare)...
One of which is mRNA-based cancer treatment vaccines that have been tested in small trials for nearly a decade now -.-
Heck, during the recent AI investment Larry Ellison touched on future ambitions 'imagine having a database of consulting information and a tailored made vaccine for a type of cancer.'
...
It is weird to think the FDA is muzzled at this time.
But what does it matter.. the Orange man voters have been pre-programmed to think vaccines give them ADHD or heart issues or a second butt hole (see pureblood) :rolleyes:
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Trexller
02-04-2025, 02:06 PM
Lack of education and Total Devotion Syndrome is why we have the Orange man.
Yeah it's got nothing to do with propping up a zombie as president for 4 years, blatantly espousing that he's never been sharper then he is now (which is ironically true, the guy's entire political career revolved around doing as he was told by his betters)
Also nothing to do with dropping the zombie after the worst debate in history and then running the least popular candidate in dem party history.
Thank God, we are now unburdened by what has been, because nobody voted for harris, they voted against Trump.
I really hope the dems believe as you do, then they will never win an election again.
Try that campaign at the mid-terms, "We lost 2024 because americans are not smart enough to vote for us"
That's gonna be as popular as tampons in men's bathrooms.
Reiwa
02-04-2025, 02:28 PM
Yeah it's got nothing to do with propping up a zombie as president for 4 years, blatantly espousing that he's never been sharper then he is now (which is ironically true, the guy's entire political career revolved around doing as he was told by his betters)
Also nothing to do with dropping the zombie after the worst debate in history and then running the least popular candidate in dem party history.
Thank God, we are now unburdened by what has been, because nobody voted for harris, they voted against Trump.
I really hope the dems believe as you do, then they will never win an election again.
Try that campaign at the mid-terms, "We lost 2024 because americans are not smart enough to vote for us"
That's gonna be as popular as tampons in men's bathrooms.
I voted for Harris! (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/31/kamala-harris-has-student-debt-forgiveness-plan-but-its-complicated.html)
Now Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., has released a plan to forgive student debt. Well, sort of.
Borrowers will have a lot of boxes to check before they can get the $20,000 in student debt forgiveness on the table in her proposal.
They will have to be 1) a Pell Grant Recipient who 2) starts a business in a disadvantaged community and 3) manages to keep that business afloat for at least three years
Reiwa
02-04-2025, 02:30 PM
FR is the worst campaign setting of all the campaign settings.
send post.
You're only saying that because it's normie coded.
That's how we talk now right? Segregating everything into stereotypes?
shovelquest
02-04-2025, 02:40 PM
Im glad all we had to do to get democrats to admit that bidenomics crashed the economy was elect trump.
Soon when we're shoving them into vans to go to basic training we can say welcome to giving a shit about war.
You're only saying that because it's normie coded.
That's how we talk now right? Segregating everything into stereotypes?
it's bad because Elminster hasn't had creative control over it in like 30 fucking years and what Wizards did with it, stealing shit from other settings to put in it while at the same time pretending those other settings don't exist and never existed
is why i don't like it, and every video game / WOTC product takes place in sword coast
shovelquest
02-04-2025, 03:08 PM
You're only saying that because it's normie coded.
That's how we talk now right? Segregating everything into stereotypes?
Normies is not a stereotype, its a state of mind.
Like anyone can be one, no matter what social status, rank, party, interests, whatever.
Its just basically "dumb people who fit into society well."
Botten
02-04-2025, 03:24 PM
Im glad all we had to do to get democrats to admit that bidenomics crashed the economy was elect trump.
Soon when we're shoving them into vans to go to basic training we can say welcome to giving a shit about war.
*yawn
Already shown that the recession and the initial 9.2% inflation is thanks to the Orange man's mismanagement.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3718293&postcount=545
Note Biden got us to 2.9 to 3.0 inflation at the end of his administration.
shovelquest
02-04-2025, 03:27 PM
If any of that were true Biden would be president right now.
https://i.imgur.com/x8SyOip.png
NopeNopeNopeNope
02-04-2025, 03:37 PM
it's bad because Elminster hasn't had creative control over it in like 30 fucking years and what Wizards did with it, stealing shit from other settings to put in it while at the same time pretending those other settings don't exist and never existed
is why i don't like it, and every video game / WOTC product takes place in sword coast
As someone who’s read between 100-200 Forgotten Realms books back when I was a nerdy teen who actually liked reading fantasy, it’s nice to have an off-hand knowledge of most places and characters though
Watched the Dungeons And Dragons movie recently (the better more recent one), and recognized all the places
Watched the storyline cutscenes from the BG3 game, recognized all the places
It’s sad but I remember Faerun better than the neighborhood I grew up in lol
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