Solving The "Blue" Issue.

[tycohunden]

The server is basically stuck in a loop at this point and bleeding active players to Quarm and Green. I think an injection of new content is in order.
At this point most players have chars, geared to the gills and no real reason to play other than utter degeneration.
At the same time red is as dead as ever and only sad echoes of the few ring out on the forum at times.

I say we merge Red with Blue. Make it the Purple server.
One of the biggest issues with red is the massive amount of cheating that was allowed in the start and probably the toxicity from some of the top players. Both would be eradicated by Merging the two, only allowing for 100K of PP surviving the merger.
All the same rule set of Red would apply.

Wouldn't Purple be the perfect injection of new content this crusty old Server needs and finally the death of Red would save us from its loathingly pathetic existence!

Lets merge two pieces of sadness into a Wonderful Cascade of Purple!

[Eisai]

So add a bunch of over geared carebears to a server full of bullies? I see how red wins, but what's the new content for the smurfs?

As long as we're talking crazy:
Sell the server to Quarm and use the cash to make a new 99 :D now they can progress through the moon(pun intended)

[imahos]

I think the philosophy staff holds unofficially/officially is that P99 is a living museum. The intent was always to emulate classic EQ. "New" content will almost certainly never be on the table because that is antithesis to the mission statement of P99. On top of that, funding/time/effort/etc.

Red is dead for a reason - merging would be silly. That would kill off what's left of blue most likely

Personally, I am leaning towards the thought that staff plans on letting things die off naturally and hang up the proverbial hat than planning for ways to bring people back. It doesn't really seem like getting a booming community playing classic EQ was the "point" and P99 has had quite the run.

Only other caveat is MAYBE one more merge/new green? Since it was stated before. Maybe. But I'm kind of thinking not.

[Ekco]

if they were gonna merge servers i'm pretty sure they would have done it by now lol

[shovelquest]

So add a bunch of over geared--

They're all in jail dude.

[tycohunden]

Yeah, probably just cope from my side, I just never would be able to go red with the commitment to level up to only be playing on a dead server.
EverQuest is actually a fine pvp game as long as all the classes with their gear is represented.

Just let it die I guess.

[Ekco]

eq is a terrible pvp game, i know this to be true because only like 5 people on the entire planet give a fuck about it

[branamil]

Not worth the effort. They have to work really hard to make that happen behind the scenes and their heart just isn't in it for a """free""" game

[shovelquest]

eq is a terrible pvp game, i know this to be true because only like 5 people on the entire planet give a fuck about it

I disagree its a pvp game like IRL. Like the person who is good at pvp in eq would be good at serial killing people, or hunting them in a most dangerous game competition.

The best pvpers are able to sit and wait like toxic snakes for imesurable ammounts of time ready for pvp at the drop of the hat and they strike and kill and god damn its a disgusting way of life that only a select few naturally psycopathic individuals are good at.

[shovelquest]

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[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/E3M9K75.png

https://i.imgur.com/yFTP5v1.gif

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/Pxvjv5j.gif

[Ekco]

I disagree its a pvp game like IRL. Like the person who is good at pvp in eq would be good at serial killing people, or hunting them in a most dangerous game competition.

The best pvpers are able to sit and wait like toxic snakes for imesurable ammounts of time ready for pvp at the drop of the hat and they strike and kill and god damn its a disgusting way of life that only a select few naturally psycopathic individuals are good at.

Eve Online is 10x more that and has 18,000 people online right now. there's like 10 other games built from the ground up for PvP that also has people playing them.

evequest has 6 people

only thing EQ has going for it is nostalgia cause people plugged someone in freeport 25 years ago and laughed their ass off about terrible game design that someone spent 5 minutes on to try to get some UO players to buy their MMO that they assumed would be dead within 1 year.

[scifo76]

Merge Blue and Green instead.

[Duik]

Are there still live pvp servers?

[Old_PVP]

Eve Online is 10x more that and has 18,000 people online right now. there's like 10 other games built from the ground up for PvP that also has people playing them.

evequest has 6 people

only thing EQ has going for it is nostalgia cause people plugged someone in freeport 25 years ago and laughed their ass off about terrible game design that someone spent 5 minutes on to try to get some UO players to buy their MMO that they assumed would be dead within 1 year.

If you weren't around for classic EQ pvp days, like Rallos, Sullon, Vallon / Tallon Zek then you really have no clue.

Also, trying to compare Eve to EQ? lol... two totally different games. I'm sure Eve does have good PVP, along with a ton of other games. This does not mean that EQ doesn't also have good PVP.

End game EQ pvp is about zone control and denying resources to your opponents. Locking down raid targets / zones through PVP. Blue, Green & Red are all the same timeline and same content, the only difference is Red has 1 additional feature with PVP. Red allows players to solve issues through force of arms. You know, like how a fantasy roleplaying game based on swords & sorcery SHOULD BE. Blue & Green requires mommy & daddy to get involved after much crying. Try to guess which has the most man-children.

Trying to say the current population of Red is indicative to amount of sentiment people have for EverQuest pvp is silly - since the P99 devs screwed up their PVP code / policies right from the birth of the server.

[Ciderpress]

Only other caveat is MAYBE one more merge/new green? Since it was stated before. Maybe. But I'm kind of thinking not.

My guess is there's some reason they can't launch a new green as expected, maybe having to do with their agreement with daybreak.

If p99 settles into the originally stated plan of a new green being launched every 3 years or so I guarantee they'll be populated every time. Nerds will not be able to resist.

[shovelquest]

Eve Online is 10x more that and has 18,000 people online right now. there's like 10 other games built from the ground up for PvP that also has people playing them.

evequest has 6 people

only thing EQ has going for it is nostalgia cause people plugged someone in freeport 25 years ago and laughed their ass off about terrible game design that someone spent 5 minutes on to try to get some UO players to buy their MMO that they assumed would be dead within 1 year.

Im sorry ive played every game thats ever existed, none give me the same feeling i get from hunting and killing an innocent person than pvp in everquest.

[tycohunden]

would you say P99 management are lacking a creative vision at this point? If blue turned into purple scores of players would return. Would anyone care if that happened?

[shovelquest]

I seem to remember there being a very passionate desire from the top for a discord server, but now i feel like that's mandala effect and maybe isnt true in this timeline.

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/yFTP5v1.gif

https://i.imgur.com/Glduysg.gif

[bcbrown]

Trying to say the current population of Red is indicative to amount of sentiment people have for EverQuest pvp is silly - since the P99 devs screwed up their PVP code / policies right from the birth of the server.

Red can never fail. Red can only be failed.

"It's not my fault no one wants to play with me!"

[Ekco]

If you weren't around for classic EQ pvp days, like Rallos, Sullon, Vallon / Tallon Zek then you really have no clue.

Also, trying to compare Eve to EQ? lol... two totally different games. I'm sure Eve does have good PVP, along with a ton of other games. This does not mean that EQ doesn't also have good PVP.

End game EQ pvp is about zone control and denying resources to your opponents. Locking down raid targets / zones through PVP. Blue, Green & Red are all the same timeline and same content, the only difference is Red has 1 additional feature with PVP. Red allows players to solve issues through force of arms. You know, like how a fantasy roleplaying game based on swords & sorcery SHOULD BE. Blue & Green requires mommy & daddy to get involved after much crying. Try to guess which has the most man-children.

Trying to say the current population of Red is indicative to amount of sentiment people have for EverQuest pvp is silly - since the P99 devs screwed up their PVP code / policies right from the birth of the server.

i'm talking about now, in 2024 not when people literally didn't have other options other than staying playing UO at the time. or Anarchy Online, the better pvp game at the time of eq

this thread is called solving the blue issue, not hey remember when this dumpsterfire of a game actually had players


hope this helps

[Swish]

If you want to solve a perceived population issue merge blue and green. Leave red to be red.

Surely there's some in the top raiding blue/green guilds who actually don't want any merges? Thought about that?

[Kohedron]

here's how you solve it

stop playing a 60 year old game and actually go do something

[Old_PVP]

i'm talking about now, in 2024 not when people literally didn't have other options other than staying playing UO at the time. or Anarchy Online, the better pvp game at the time of eq

this thread is called solving the blue issue, not hey remember when this dumpsterfire of a game actually had players


hope this helps

Your "blue issue" is the same as the red issue. Both are population issues. You generalized EverQuest PVP by saying it sucks based on low population numbers from Red. Your same logic could be applied to blue & green.

eq is a terrible pvp game, i know this to be true because only like 5 people on the entire planet give a fuck about it

Here I fixed this quote for ya:

World of Warcraft is 3,625x more that and has 940,000 people online right now. there's like 10 other games built from the ground up for PvE that also has people playing them.

Project 1999 everquest has 1,000 people ... spread across 3 servers. That's 0.01% of WoW's active subscriber base of 7.25 million players.


Clearly EQ PvE sucks. I know this to be true because only like 0.0000001% people on the entire planet give a fuck about it.

Maybe just recognize that nobody gives a shit about EQ and just merge all the servers so that the few nerds in the world that still care can have a population to play with.

[Ekco]

yeah, a thousand still playing green, 2 thousand peak playing THJ before PoE2 launched yesterday and whatever Quarm still has.

and anyone even remotely into elf sim pvp is playing ashes of creation.


people give a shit about everquest pve, and people give a shit about pvp.

only 6 people on the planet give a shit about pvp in everquest.

[Duik]

Aint no fixin anyfing.
Play p1999 for what it is. A museum piece that the devs try (despite players' attempts to add luclin/custom/etc) to true to history.
Sure, changes were made cuz players found ways to trivialize/exploit the 25 yr old code.

People bitching about the current condition of the server pop is prolly around second last on the list of dev priorities.

Play. Be happy. If <exploit guild> keeps poopsocking the same old content for their 50th (BIS) alt take it as a failing on their part and let the baby have its bottle.

I know this will not help.

[Duik]

Feel free to make your own server.
Exactly how you envision it.
Or shut the hell up and play this one, as is. Or not. But just please choose one.

[Naethyn]

Things are fine.

[shovelquest]

p99 Mischief server when

https://i.imgur.com/EE3PPur.png

[Wildino]

Eve Online is 10x more that and has 18,000 people online right now. there's like 10 other games built from the ground up for PvP that also has people playing them.

evequest has 6 people

only thing EQ has going for it is nostalgia cause people plugged someone in freeport 25 years ago and laughed their ass off about terrible game design that someone spent 5 minutes on to try to get some UO players to buy their MMO that they assumed would be dead within 1 year.

I wish you spent hundreds of hours in trakanon teeth with a druid to monitor the arrivals of other guilds in sebilis, which we had prohibited access to anyone outside the guild for over a year like I did, you would have a different opinion of pvp in EQ.

Certainly some mechanics are not suitable for pvp, but... omg :)

(A short Vallon Zek story, 12p for life)

[Pint]

You have to be on the spectrum to argue that classic eq is a good game and you basically have to have downs to argue that eq PVP even qualifies as a bad game

[tycohunden]

The reason I think it would work on blue is because of the large population of inactive but geared characters, it would start running. Sure the red psychos would probably be an issue but with large population their impact would diminish. Just a new well of content for people who already have other things to play. Raiding would have a new dimension too.
EQ is a great pvp game! It's just a huge barrier of entry on red. I think it would revitalize blue. The issue is the admin staff not being able to see it. What's the worst that could happen, blue would die? Who cares.

Make Blue Purple.

[Duik]

Whoops my bad. I forgot that because I didn't code it myself and because I don't run the project I'm not allowed to question or criticize all the decisions and changes that run completely against the stated point of the project. Won't happen again.

You are soooo close.

[Reiwa]

Adding red to blue would be functionally equivalent to wiping blue.

Nobody wants to play your way.

You've ruined your own lands, you'll not ruin mine.

[Jimjam]

Okay, lets ignore the issues of whether always on pvp is something blue would even be intersted in.

If the premise is that blue is hermoraging players, how on earth is a one time boost of +6 players going to actually help with that?

[Tethler]

I wish you spent hundreds of hours in trakanon teeth with a druid to monitor the arrivals of other guilds in sebilis, which we had prohibited access to anyone outside the guild for over a year like I did, you would have a different opinion of pvp in EQ.

Certainly some mechanics are not suitable for pvp, but... omg :)

(A short Vallon Zek story, 12p for life)

Wait wait wait, did you type this out as a reason that people would enjoy EQ pvp? Spending hundreds of hours just sitting at a zone entrance as a hall monitor? That's your pitch?

My guy, lol

[Duik]

I think *some* pvpers believe their skillz translate to IRL awesomeness. Only bluebies call they mummies and daddies to fix the sandbox.

[Wakanda]

I actually love playing on Blue because it's so easy to get most camps at most hours. Even if you can't get a camp the people are generally so chill that they will probably legit give you the camp since most of them are playing AFK anyways.

That being said, I would like to see either a new server and/or merge of P99 blue and green. Like the game doesn't even feel like WoW now, most of my groups are in full Skyshrine and Dragon Loot. They telling me not to bother CC'ing or slowing mobs because they can't hurt our tank anyways and would rather just toss out a complete heal every so often. And they aren't wrong.

For me the real EQ is when y'all are struggling to do MM CE with a full group.

[Wakanda]

p99 Mischief server when

https://i.imgur.com/EE3PPur.png
I think this style of server would be closer to original EQ than what we have now. Because in original EQ we didn't know where every single item in the game dropped, or how to get to most camps even if we did know where items we wanted dropped.

P99 doesn't emulate classic in the sense that we all have every thing down to a science, which is not how classic EQ played at all.

I think also someone just copy/pasting the original EQ but with modern graphics, mechanics, and new names of zones/items would be fairly successful. A lot of the early MMOs that came out trying to compete with WoW were actually good games, but because they got rushed out so fast, they tended to be severely lacking in content.

If they had just copy/pasted EQ they would have had plenty of content. Most modern players would never even know that they copied EQ since they never played it. It's why I'm still shaking my head at Pantheon. 10+ years... for what they've released so far. It shouldn't have been that complicated.

[shovelquest]

It's so fun.

Also the camps you do are so different than the ones you currently do it's like a whole new game.

I wish I wiiiiiiiiiiiiish.

[Wakanda]

I remember the day Mischief launched :p I was an erudite cleric, and people traveled all the way from Kelethin to level in Kerra Isle :p like it was a legit good spot because of how many low level named mobs drop. A Ranger in my group got a polished granite tomahawk and everyone on the server freaked out because that was considered a good item at the time.

But also it makes zones like UR, which generally have terrible loot, actually decent. I remember getting a pearl kedge totem at fireplace. ;)

[Wildino]

Wait wait wait, did you type this out as a reason that people would enjoy EQ pvp? Spending hundreds of hours just sitting at a zone entrance as a hall monitor? That's your pitch?

My guy, lol

It's sure, presented like that....

You can already imagine that I was more doing the forager cycle than sitting in front of the zone, waiting to get one-shotted by any group that zone in.
I was talking more about all the interactions that it generated, having to defend etc...

I could also expose the arguments for the ridiculous tons of rules you have in PvE, rooted mobs, draft, rotations, FTE...

Compared to "clear the area, get the mob" ...

You just have to realize that it's not the same game, nothing to compare.

[shovelquest]

I remember the day Mischief launched :p I was an erudite cleric, and people traveled all the way from Kelethin to level in Kerra Isle :p like it was a legit good spot because of how many low level named mobs drop. A Ranger in my group got a polished granite tomahawk and everyone on the server freaked out because that was considered a good item at the time.

But also it makes zones like UR, which generally have terrible loot, actually decent. I remember getting a pearl kedge totem at fireplace. ;)

Yeah!! It is a lot of fun. Would really enjoy that here.

[Balur]

You have to be on the spectrum to argue that classic eq is a good game and you basically have to have downs to argue that eq PVP even qualifies as a bad game

No, the Xennials who still play classic EQ didn't get enough vaccines to contract autism. They're afflicted with old-fashioned mental disorders like OCD, social anxiety, and clinical depression.

[WarpathEQ]

I think also someone just copy/pasting the original EQ but with modern graphics, mechanics, and new names of zones/items would be fairly successful.

We'll call it Eternal Expedition

[WarpathEQ]

P.S. disappointed this isn't a thread about erectile disfunction

[Ciderpress]

only 6 people on the planet give a shit about pvp in everquest.

This is very true, the only puzzling thing is that people definitely used to give a shit about it. The classic PVP servers had very healthy pops back then

[Eisai]

This is very true, the only puzzling thing is that people definitely used to give a shit about it. The classic PVP servers had very healthy pops back then


Maybe those people have healthy successful lives? Or that form of everquest might be far less addictive...

[Eisai]

...or call of duty fills their desire to kill people?

[Old_PVP]

This is very true, the only puzzling thing is that people definitely used to give a shit about it. The classic PVP servers had very healthy pops back then

Everyone always forgets about relativity. The classic PVP servers had a healthy pop at the time when EverQuest had a healthy subscription base of 500k players. You have to remember that EQ had like 40 live servers... and only 4 of those were PVP. Which means roughly 10% of the population enjoyed PVP enough to play on them.

Compare that to P99 statistics. Roughly 1000 people, maybe 100 active on Red? 10% of the total and decreasing due to neglect.

Compare new server launches - maybe 3000 people, PVP would have significantly less but would maybe settle around 300 range.

There has always only been 10% interest in EQ PVP.

[Ciderpress]

Well, by my memory there were many servers, and some of the PVE servers had lower pops than the Zek's, at least for a period of time. I don't think it's quite the same. There was clearly more of an appetite for a pvp ruleset. I think the nature of the average player is much more griefy on a free emu server than it was when the game was new and people had to pay monthly for access. The stakes were higher.

I've seen green approach 1k players as recently as this year during bonus xp, and there were still only like 20 tops logged into red, which is only 2% not 10.

[Eisai]

Fires of heaven on rallos paid players to move to their server during pop. They offered me $1500 + move cost and full regear(at the time a server transfer meant all items on the char were deleted) if i moved. I stubbornly stayed but they did entice our best tank and cleric to transfer (stomp & sirensa - cause names prove the truth of it) along with a few others. Not sure what they were offered though.

[Ekco]

it's like .2% if you add in the players on the other emu projects, p99 is literally third or fourth in popularity atm

pvp is like having optional linux client support and even eve online stopped doing that.

[Balur]

Well, by my memory there were many servers, and some of the PVE servers had lower pops than the Zek's, at least for a period of time. I don't think it's quite the same. There was clearly more of an appetite for a pvp ruleset. I think the nature of the average player is much more griefy on a free emu server than it was when the game was new and people had to pay monthly for access. The stakes were higher.

I've seen green approach 1k players as recently as this year during bonus xp, and there were still only like 20 tops logged into red, which is only 2% not 10.

Speaking as someone who rolled on the racial PvP server the day it was launched, the main appeal was that it was a brand new experience. Most of us never thought about how janky EverQuest PvP was because there was nothing to compare it to at the time. It was in a class of its own. Verant was writing the rule book in real time.

It's hard for a lot of us to go back to classic EQ PvP when we've experienced PvP in newer MMOs that have perfected the formula over the last 20 years.

[Ciderpress]

Speaking as someone who rolled on the racial PvP server the day it was launched, the main appeal was that it was a brand new experience. Most of us never thought about how janky EverQuest PvP was because there was nothing to compare it to at the time. It was in a class of its own. Verant was writing the rule book in real time.

It's hard for a lot of us to go back to classic EQ PvP when we've experienced PvP in newer MMOs that have perfected the formula over the last 20 years.

Makes sense. Also, when EQ launched ultima online was it's only existing competitor, which was both popular and infamous for it's pvp. I remember being tempted to roll on one of the original EQ red servers because I was coming from UO and loved it's pvp, but I rolled on Povar instead cause at least you could still opt-in with the whole priest of discord thing (fast forward 20 years and noooooobody actually goes red for real on a blue server). Just a different time and place.

[Old_PVP]

Well, by my memory there were many servers, and some of the PVE servers had lower pops than the Zek's, at least for a period of time. I don't think it's quite the same. There was clearly more of an appetite for a pvp ruleset. I think the nature of the average player is much more griefy on a free emu server than it was when the game was new and people had to pay monthly for access. The stakes were higher.

I've seen green approach 1k players as recently as this year during bonus xp, and there were still only like 20 tops logged into red, which is only 2% not 10.

This is probably true and it could be examined from multiple angles I'm sure. 10% of the total playerbase would be an ideal number to shoot for. Red has been decreasing over the years due to a number of factors. First impressions can make or break some things and EQ servers are no different. Red screwed up majorly when it first launched with PVP deaths causing exp loss. Resist code has never been coded correctly, or classic... which turns out is a big part of PVP, lol. Bowquest was never a thing in classic days, Line of sight for spells was never classic. The nerf of many clickies which were strategic in PVP. The list could go on, etc. etc.

Also, the ruleset itself needs to be reviewed. It's sort of a Rallos Zek ruleset, but not entirely. Item loot was left out, which actually is detrimental in many ways. It allows the creation of the super twink with no way to stop them. No item looting also contributes to the death of the anti-pk / pk dynamic which was seen on RZ.

Bottom line, Red needs some attention and changes in order to at least get back to that 10%.

[Ekco]

Didn't red players make their own server like 5 years ago, if it's a ruleset problem why did that fail.

[Old_PVP]

Didn't red players make their own server like 5 years ago, if it's a ruleset problem why did that fail.

Which server? Probably one of the many drugboxes over the years. Most those servers have problems with corruption and favoritism because the GMs inevitably end up playing their own box.

None of them had the clout or quality of P99.

[Ekco]

the one you can't even discuss here without catching a ban for ex-staff bashing.

[Eisai]

the one you can't even discuss here without catching a ban for ex-staff bashing.

Oooo! Juicy! I'll take a DM, sir.

Lol

[Duik]

So some of the people saying please change p99 pvp box so it aligns with my memory/needs/wishes actually made a box with the exact ruleset they wanted and still failed cuz its more nuanced than a simple make these rules and it would, well rule?
It's almost like there is more to a long lived EQ emu box than just rulesets.

Like no wonder the RogBog leave us alone and clueless cuz when some gms/guides were promoted they broke rules when given powers that could gift things to people with boobs (frigzample) or their friends/guildies.

Damn that world building fing is complexamicated.

Redz Iz Dedz. Deal wiff it. PvPed itself to death.
/auction: Looking for a clr or high lvl pal for rez. PST.

[Ekco]

Oooo! Juicy! I'll take a DM, sir.

Lol

2nG7aix-VO4


I was only really paying attention to like 10% of the story that was affecting Blue server raiding at the time and don't know the whole/real story that involved the Red server and the other Emu server

[Jimjam]

No one ever item looted a super twink. They have no drop gear and a fungi they can bag. It hasn’t ever happened anecdotally, and is only the fuzziest possibility hypothetically - barely a risk to consider.

[Eisai]

Supertwink can only be killed by Battwink

Also, you're right! Make ALL the gear tradeable like the old FV server. Yummy!

[druidbob]

Merge blue and red, then all red players with banned blue accounts are now banned from purple.

[Old_PVP]

No one ever item looted a super twink. They have no drop gear and a fungi they can bag. It hasn’t ever happened anecdotally, and is only the fuzziest possibility hypothetically - barely a risk to consider.

Super twink going LD is one way I can think of. Or they are just really dumb. Either way, it encourages the mass of noobs to pile onto the super twink in the hopes of scoring the killshot. Without item loot, the mass of noobs just scatter and flee because of the 0.1% chance of actually killing them, and the absolute 0% chance of doing any permanent damage if they did.

So item loot doesn't completely stop the super twink, but it definitely discourages them.

[Old_PVP]

Also I've seen a fungi get looted from PVP. It was forever ago on RALLOS ZEK

https://i.imgur.com/wI2PvIO.gif

[Heavydrop]

Played on RZ years ago.
Good and bad.

Posting here to bump my post count.

[Eisai]

Played on RZ years ago.
Good and bad.

Posting here to bump my post count.

ROFL :) . Your honesty makes me the wettest.

Your rallos makes us all wish we hadn't been so innocent in those days.

[Duik]

R n F dont add to post count.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

R n F dont add to post count.

https://i.imgur.com/wmIsIXL.jpeg

[Smoofers]

1) Disband riot and shittens
2) Enable AA exp gain but only in PVP-enabled leveling zones

[Eisai]

1) Disband riot and shittens
2) Enable AA exp gain but only in PVP-enabled leveling zones

Wanna marry a halfling?

[Andyman1022]

You smell bad, consider taking a shower and/or touching grass.

1) Disband riot and shittens
2) Enable AA exp gain but only in PVP-enabled leveling zones

[Arvan]

1) Disband riot and shittens
2) Enable AA exp gain but only in PVP-enabled leveling zones

Sorry you lost on blue - consider green!

[tycohunden]

In my dreams, it happened, at last SK was a viable class choice... I dream on.

[tycohunden]

How about faction pvp? Hearing epic stories out of old Vallon Zek players, Imagine evil vs good. Kael vs Skyshrine. Chads vs Cucks. 4chan vs Reddit.
Cut out the red menace if you want but we need to save BLUE. Museum argument bois, go touch grass, you're lame and unwanted.

[Snaggles]

Blue is “dead” but PL is long gone. Maybe I’m a diehard optimist but given those factors death has never been more appealing.

Let Red continue to chase their tails and eat paste, they seem content babysitting themselves.

[Dundrige]

Blue is not dead. We are considering running a donation drive to run an advertisement on TV starting out with very sad music, and Macaulay Culkin depressed in his bedroom, covered in cheeto dust and beer stains. Living at home, his mom and dad open the door, and as a last ditch effort, they hand him an EverQuest Titanium box. He looks at it, and the advertisement cuts to the near future of him well groomed, wearing nice clothes, and in a much tidier room logging on Blue every morning and playing with his friends. Eye of the tiger is playing. As he is discording his friends, one of them is a girl that complements him. The ad then cuts again into the near future of Macaulay and his female friend in game walking down the wedding aisle. It then again cuts to the future of them having kids, where the whole family is playing p99, grouping, raiding, and dungeon crawling together.

Then it ends with a well respected, fashionable, cool Macaulay Culkin saying," Find me on blue." and then winking.